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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle are discussing a topic that has had the whole country talking once again. No, it's not the Oasis reunion (although Lyle does his level best to mention this at every possible moment!) It is, in fact, the situation surrounding now former BBC presenter and Match Of The Day pundit, Jermaine Jenas, who was sacked last week after it was revealed by The Sun that he had sent inappropriate text messages to two female members of staff. Jenas later admitted to sending this messages in an interview with the same newspaper, something Jacki agrees was planned by Jenas' comms team who have reacted decisively to his sacking and the resulting fallout. Jenas may well be offered a lifeline if newspaper reports are to be believed, with TNT Sports, where he works as a freelance pundit and commentator, refusing to rule out his continued appearances after the upcoming international break. Tim Davie, meanwhile, is said to be 'deeply unhappy' with Jenas, and Jacki and Lyle praise the BBC's response to this scandal in this episode. Jacki outlines that the BBC have in essence behaved like any standard employer should when faced with this allegations about one of their employees, and Lyle agrees that, despite certain perspectives that Jenas has ultimately paid the price for the BBC getting their act together in times of crisis such as these, this is how everyone associated with the broadcaster should now expect to be dealt with should they behave improperly. Jacki analyses the continued fallout from the Strictly Come Dancing Scandal involving Giovanni Pernice and actress Amanda Abbington, with the latter coming under fire from Jacki for the interview she recently conducted with Krishnan Guru-Murthy. Lyle ultimately assesses the three different approaches taken by the people at the centre of the three most recent BBC scandals - Jenas and his immediate apology, Pernice and his coming-out-fighting approach, and Huw Edwards' ultimately futile silent strategy. All three approaches led to different levels of reporting on the repsective stories, although Lyle does admit the Oasis reunion may have helped Jenas' cause in this regard as well (he just couldn't help mentioning it again!)


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle discuss the importance of having a good spokesperson within your organisation, and what it takes to become a great spokesperson in general. Lyle analyses how important it is to be authentic in the delivery and tone of your message as a spokesperson, and Jacki lists the many excellent spokespeople that have appeared on the podcast so far. These include the phenomenal Chloe Davies, who Jacki continues to catch up with regularly, as well as the likes of Impact Guru Esther Stanhope, AgencyWise's Laura West, and the incredible Beatka Wójciak who has had to learn how to be the best possible spokesperson she can be after being thrust into the limelight by the creation of Chaos Cookie and her involvement with Apple through her game, Squarelets. Lyle and Jacki also discuss bad examples of spokespeople, and the importance of ensuring you are as confident and informative as possible even if you don't wholeheartedly believe in the message you are delivering. Lyle draws on his experience as an actor to offer advice to prospective spokespeople, and there is even time for a truly remarkable story from Jacki about how she ended up taking a job after losing a game of backgammon!


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle discuss the current media landscape, with a particular focus on the slant taken on certain stories by a cross section of broadcasters and news outlets in the UK over the last few weeks. In an episode that touches on some very tragic subjects and where viewer and listener discretion is advised, Jacki and Lyle discuss the reporting of the recent tragic murders of 3 young girls at a Taylor Swift themed dance class in Southport, and how the immediacy with which the killer's ethnicity and heritage were reported has since contributed to flashpoints and riots up and down the UK. Lyle compares this situation to that of Sarah Everard, and the fact that the information reported about her killer, Wayne Couzens, didn't have anywhere near the same focus on his heritage and ethinicity, instead concentrating on his job as a police officer. Jacki ultimately discusses how the apparent bias being perpetuated by the mainstream media has informed the rise of independent social media news outlets, such as Dylan Page (otherwise known as News Daddy) who her son follows on TikTok. Lyle asks the question as to whether the vacuum that has been created by this increased mainstream bias has in essence been filled by these independent news reporter influencers, before inserting his trademark sporting analogy in his mention of Manchester United fan channel, The United Stand!


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle discuss the importance of reputation in the corporate and business world, and how companies and individuals can take steps to manage their reputation in order to elevate their business. This follows hot on the heels of the Huw Edwards Scandal episode, where Jacki and Lyle started to discuss the idea of reputation when it comes to public figures and crisis communications. Lyle discusses his own opinion on the term reputation, including how he sees it as more of a vibe around a business or individual than something that businesses should be prioritising. Jacki responds to Lyle's point regarding how the C suite can have the best reputation in the world by agreeing that upholding your reputation throughout an organisation is important. She analyses how it used to be the customer service department of an organisation that fell foul of poor reputation management, but that now maintaining an excellent customer service reputation is seen as a priority by businesses! There is time for Jacki and Lyle to discuss some brilliant examples of customer service, such as the service delivered to Jacki by Apple recently over a subscription she wished to cancel, and the pair also discuss how maintaining an excellent reputation within the industry you operate in can elevate your business and help give you the competitive edge over your fellow organisations!


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle discuss a story that has dominated the UK news agenda in the latter half of this week, alongside the terrible events that took place in Southport. Huw Edwards, former BBC news presenter and, at one time, the third-highest paid BBC television employee, pleaded guilty on Wednesday to three counts of making indecent images of children. The BBC director general, Tim Davie, has since defended the decision not to sack Huw Edwards, despite knowing that the presenter had been arrested in November over what is considered to be the most serious category of indecent images of children. In an episode that contains references to this crime throughout and where listener and viewer discretion is advised, Jacki analyses the BBC's response to Edwards' charges being made public, again praising their swift response whilst also questioning why, once again, it has taken them this long to acknowledge this situation having known about it for several months. Lyle is conscious of treating the story itself with the sensitivity it requires in order to protect the victims in this case, but he does draw some parallels between this situation and the one the BBC found themselves in with the Strictly Come Dancing scandal, in that it has seemingly taken far too long for any wrongdoing to be acknowledged and ultimately dealt with. Jacki and Lyle then discuss the impact this will have had on the reputation of the BBC, with reference to a new Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy's concerns over the BBC's handling of the internal investigation into Edwards' behaviour, and the continued evidence that the corporation is not learning lessons from previous cases such as those involving the likes of Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris.


    TW - this episode contains references to the crimes committed by Edwards, and mentions the likes of Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris as other examples of this behaviour. Viewer and listener discretion is advised. If you or anyone you know has been affected by this story, the following charities continue to do amazing work helping people affected by child abuse and exploitation:


    Barnardo's - https://www.barnardos.org.uk/get-support/support-for-parents-and-carers/child-abuse-and-harm/child-sexual-abuse-and-exploitation

    Mind - https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/abuse/

    Victim Support - https://www.victimsupport.org.uk/


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle discuss a scandal that has had the UK talking this week, and one that has dominated the build-up to one of the nation's most-watched TV shows - the Strictly Come Dancing scandal. Jacki and Lyle analyse what has allegedly taken place in the rehearsal rooms of one of the UK's most beloved entertainment shows, with allegations levelled at Graziano Di Prima and Giovanni Pernice by reality TV star Zara McDermott and actress Amanda Abbington respectively. Di Prima is alleged to have kicked, hit, and spat at McDermott during training sessions for the show, which have been revealed to last up to 10 hours on certain days as pro dancers and their celebrity partners vie for the coveted Strictly trophy. Abbington, meanwhile, has publicly accused Pernice of 'sexual bullying', most recently in an interview with Krishnan Guru-Murthy on Channel 4 News. The allegations are now being investigated by the BBC, and Director General Tim Davie revealed recently that the broadcaster had taken steps to ensure situations like this would not happen again, including having Strictly producers present at every training session to observe and ensure the safety of the contestants. Jacki and Lyle discuss how exactly it came to this, as well as the importance of risk assessing projects like this ahead of time. Jacki praises the response of the BBC, and Lyle agrees whilst also insisting that the better situation would have been for the BBC to have acknowledged these concerns sooner and adopted a more proactive risk assessment strategy as opposed to a reactive one. Jacki offers her own opinion on the merit, or lack of, in Abbington's interview with Channel 4, before she puts Lyle on the spot in asking whether he would take up the Strictly invite if offered! Previous Strictly scandals, of an ironically very different kind, are discussed, before Lyle's relative dancing talents are brought to the fore!


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle discuss the event that has shocked the world over the last week - the attempted assassination of former US President Donald Trump. Jacki and Lyle discuss the immediate aftermath of the assassination attempt, as well as how the respective teams of Biden and Trump have responded. Jacki analyses the impact the image of Trump standing up after being shot might well have on the upcoming Presidential election, whilst Lyle discusses the contrasts between Joe Biden and Donald Trump when it comes to reacting to significant moments in the campaign. This is all discussed through the lens of the power of the media and, crucially, the power of words, with Biden having spoken of 'putting Trump in the bullseye' merely days before the attempt on his life. Jacki uses the excellent example of the Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard trial as an example of how words and emotions can drive a narrative, before Lyle asks her about her own experience of jury duty here in the UK. There's time for Lyle to demonstrate his accent skills before he embarks on an upcoming touring production, and the episode threatens to derail over a few impromptu gags!


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle have two very important stories on their minds - the Labour Party's landslide victory in the UK General Election, and Gareth Southgate's England side and their impending trip to the Euro 2024 final after success over The Netherlands in this week's semi-final. However, not content with reliving the excitement of these recent victories, Jacki and Lyle are taking a look at these stories through the lens of stakeholder communications. In an at times very celebratory episode, Jacki and Lyle discuss what incoming Prime Minister Sr Keir Starmer can learn from Gareth Southgate's communications, both over the last 4-5 weeks as England prepared for and ultimately took part in the recent Euros, but also over his last 8 years as England manager. Jacki outlines how Southgate has built trust over those 8 years, and how his messaging has always remained calm and consistent despite receiving near constant criticism about his tactics and England's style of play. Lyle opens up on his own previous concerns about Southgate's managerial abilities, but agrees that Starmer can learn a thing or two from him about reconnecting the key stakeholders - in his case, the electorate - with the nation as a whole. There is time to analyse the complete mess the outgoing Conservative Party still find themselves in, and Lyle also draws comparisons between Southgate, Starmer, and directors he has worked with during his acting career. Finally, Lyle once again extends a podcast invitation to Mr Southgate, before both Jacki and Lyle confidently assert what we all hope will come true - that, finally, Football's Coming Home!


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle are joined by not one but two brilliant guests! Sam Crowe-Lamont is currently interning at Dimoso, working with the team on UA, UX, and the digital side of the agency. Our mystery special guest has also been doing some work experience with Dimoso, and he has a particularly close link to our very own Jacki Vause! Both guests discuss their own experiences of work experience both past and present, with Sam discussing how he has always been someone who has been keen to pursue the more business-oriented side of life as opposed to focussing too heavily on the educational side. He discusses his own foray into crypto-currency when he was 16, and how his suspension from school a year or so later for starting an unauthorised sales business was actually praised by his mum for showing entrepreneurial spirit! Our other special guest opens up on his recent work experience at Dimoso, including constructing a website entirely dedicated to football transfers, and his work creating assets on Canva. Lyle and Jacki discuss their own work experience history, including stories about sculpturing and local print journalism! There is also time for each of our guests to offer some words of wisdom for anyone about to embark on their own work experience journey.


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  • This week, Jacki and I discuss what their advice would be for businesses looking to work with a PR agency. Jacki very much takes the lead on this one, having worked on both sides of this particular relationship throughout her career. She discusses the importance of businesses knowing what they want from a PR agency, and also having a very clearly established set of values, a clear mission, and strong messaging that they wish to communicate. Lyle discusses how crucial it is for businesses to be open to the advice PR agencies give them, given that PR agencies themselves and their employees possess an array of skills that reach past the areas of marketing and communications. Jacki opens up on some of the best working relationships she has had as the owner of an agency, including working with a client who know discusses every element of their business strategy with her, not just PR! It wouldn't be an episode of The Rest Is PR with a football analogy, with Jacki this time using Georgia's recent Euro 2024 victory over Portugal, and the 'Believe' banner their fans were holding, as an example of the importance of having belief in what you're doing, before Jacki emphasises the importance of respect and recognition on both sides of the client-agency partnership. There's time for a rant from Lyle about pilates in what is otherwise a very informative episode!


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle are doing something they have never done before on The Rest Is PR. That's right - they are responding to some comments that you, the audience, have left on many of the most recent episodes! Jacki and Lyle discuss a comment recently left on the recent episode regarding Mark Davies, Head of Communications for the Post Office, and the evidence he gave at the Post Office Horizon IT Scandal inquiry, with one listener asking what the role of PR actually is and whether it is simply a case of defending those you work for. Jacki agrees with this particular audience member that more needs to be done to move away from the 'spin' element of PR, and that Davies himself should certainly have asked more questions and not defended Paula Vennells as much as he did, with Jacki later bemoaning the fact that Vennells was described as less of a CEO and 'more of a PR person', much to Lyle's dismay as well! Lyle responds to a particularly forthright comment on the episode involving the brilliant Amelia and Lydia Miller from Ivee regarding the gender pay gap, with this listener asking why more isn't being made of an apparent spending gap as well! Finally, Jacki and Lyle analyse the number of comments from apparent Reform UK voters that have been left on the recent episode on the UK General Election and the importance of visual PR, with one viewer mentioning that people could learn a thing or two about PR from Nigel Farage! A first-of-its-kind episode for the podcast, and one that will no doubt be repeated - keep those comments coming!


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle discuss the subject everyone in the UK, and beyond, is talking about at the moment. No, not the European Championships in Germany (although that's certainly got Lyle excited!) It is, in fact, the general election taking place in the United Kingdom on July 4th. Current UK Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, announced the election in bizarre fashion in May, seemingly not anticipating the inclement weather and persevering with his announcement outside Number 10 Downing Street without any protection from an intense rainstorm. This is where Jacki and Lyle begin this episode which also touches on the importance of visuals when it comes to pursuing a successful election campaign. Jacki discusses how the image of Sunak walking back into 10 Downing Street soaked through has become the image of the Conservative Party's campaign so far, with Lyle emphasising that things haven't got much better when it comes to the visuals of the Tory campaign. The Labour Party, meanwhile, have elected for a very simple message which is coming across a lot clearer thus far in the form of their campaign slogan 'Change'. Jacki and Lyle analyse Ed Davey's approach to the Lib Dem campaign, which has centred on some very strong visual representations of certain policies within their manifesto, before the conversation inevitably turns to Nigel Farage and his snap announcement as leader of the breakaway Reform UK party, a right-wing offshoot of the Conservative Party. Farage recently had a milkshake thrown over him whilst leaving a pub in Clacton where he is running as an MP, with many theorising the party may well have set the whole thing up! Jacki discusses similarities between the way Farage delivers his message and the strategies employed by someone Farage himself admires a great deal - Donald Trump! With just a few weeks to go until the election itself, this episode covers all of this and more!


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle discuss how high profile individuals in the public eye interpret the news, with a particular focus on Donald Trump and how he has managed the fallout of being found guilty of all 34 counts of falsifying business records in his hush money trial. Stormy Daniels alleges that she and Trump had sex in 2006, and that she was paid money to stay quiet about the relationship in the build up to the 2016 election, which Mr Trump ultimately won. In an at time chaotic episode, Jacki and Lyle discuss Trump's ability to spin pretty much every piece of news into a positive for himself, at least from his perspective, and how he appears to be unflappable when it comes to consistently delivering his messages to his followers and the American people as a whole. Jacki outlines that there are certain facets of Trump's confidence and message delivery that other leaders could take something from, although she does emphasise that there is also a huge amount of evidence of what not to do as well! Lyle finishes the episode by saying that, in actuality, the American public have a very difficult decision to make later this year as neither candidate fills him with confidence! He also discusses the importance of having self-belief when it comes to assuming a leadership position, as that belief will then resonate strongly with your employees and other professionals you work with. Richard Branson, David Attenborough and even an idol of Lyle's, Sir Alex Ferguson, are all given honourable mentions, as is a particularly infamous policy involving a wall!


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle discuss the recent evidence presented by the Post Office's former Head of Public Relations, Mark Davies, to the Post Office Horizon IT Scandal inquiry. The most widely report comment made by Davies was that, in hindsight, a series of emails denying problems with Horizon 'look ridiculous'. Jacki and Lyle discuss Mark Davies' part in the scandal, considered to be one of the worst miscarriages of justice in British history, and whether he could have asked more pertinent questions of those higher up in the organisation in order to better understand the situation as it was unfolding. Lyle and Jacki address the more 'jokey' emails Davies sent to his colleagues throughout the affair and whether these are an accurate indicator about his thoughts on the situation as it stands now, and Jacki asks what more Davies could have done considering the likes of Paula Vennells, who has herself recently given very controversial evidence to the inquiry, had already made their feelings clear on what action to take. Lyle then asks the incredibly tricky question - would Jacki work with mark Davies in a PR environment knowing what she knows now? The disagreements of the previous episodes are a thing of the past as Lyle and Jacki agree that Davies' only real mistake is continuing to defend those within the Post Office who must be considered indefensible when it comes to the impact they have had on innocent people's lives.


    For more on Davies' evidence to the inquiry, head to: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/crgyyedx4lzt


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle embark on the follow-up to the recent episode discussing Baby Reindeer, and Fiona Harvey's recent appearance on Piers Morgan Uncensored on TalkTV. Dubbed 'The Real Martha', Harvey was interviewed by Piers Morgan, who asked her about her side of the Baby Reindeer story, including how she met Richard Gadd in the first place, what her views are on the Netflix series, and whether she did in fact send 41,000 emails, 350 hours of voice messages, 744 tweets, 48 Facebook messages, and 106 letters as Gadd claims in his Oliver Award-winning script. In a rare occurrence for the podcast, Jacki and Lyle disagree when it comes to Harvey's believability, with Jacki leaning towards supporting her and her side of the story, and Lyle arguing that it is likely Harvey was being dishonest in her interview with Morgan in an attempt to defend herself. They do, however, both agree that this interview was at best unethical and at worst exploitative of someone who demonstrated a lack of media training and a limited understanding of the consequences of agreeing to this interview. Lyle brings up the rumour that Fiona Harvey is seeking up to £1 million from Piers Morgan for her appearance on his show, with Morgan later replaying that it's not the money she wants but 'an agent'. Lyle tries desperately to not sit on the fence, possibly to no avail depending on your view!


    Watch Piers Morgan's extraordinary interview with 'The Real Martha', Fiona Harvey, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK-isQXd_Qw


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle are delighted to welcome the absolutely brilliant Beatka Wójciak. Beatka is the Founder & CEO of Chaos Cookie, an Art & Games studio which has recently produced the phenomenal game Squarelets! Chaos Cookie also focuses on empowering women in STEM jobs (science, technology, engineering and mathematics), with a particular focus on the gaming industry. Beatka is a software engineer with a passion for creating elegant, user-centered designs, and she has previously worked for Google as a Senior Software Engineer before founding Chaos Cookie! She was also a volunteer for UEFA during Euro 2012, which Lyle was particularly interested in! She has been mentored by the one and only Jacki Vause since heading out on her own with Chaos Cookie! In an incredibly insightful episode, Beatka discusses her career so far, including what it was like to take the leap of faith that was setting up her own company and leaving Google. She discusses how she is someone who always has a plan for any situation, stating that she has a Plan A - Chaos Cookie - right down to a plan Y and Z already established in her mind! Beatka opens up on how she came to create Squarelets, stating that it was an idea she had at University that started to take shape as a prototype during a stint in hospital. Squarelets has been an absolute revelation in the industry, being named a Game Changer by Games London last year, winner at Patch Of Approval also last year, being named an official selection at the London Games Festival earlier this year! Jacki and Beatka discuss the importance of having a PR frame of mind when embarking on founding a startup, and Lyle is inspired by Beatka's analogy of constantly testing yourself on higher springboards, in the knowledge that there isn't really such a thing as failure if your committed to following your passion.


    For more information on the incredible work Beatka has been doing at Chaos Cookie, head to: https://www.chaoscookie.games/


    And for Squarelets specifically, head to: https://www.chaoscookie.games/squarelets


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle discuss the recently recorded interview between Piers Morgan and the woman who has come to be known as the 'real Martha' from Richard Gadd's extraordinary Netflix series - Baby Reindeer. Fiona Harvey, who stalked Gadd for a prolonged period and Gadd later wrote his one man show, Baby Reindeer, based on his experiences during this time. After its release on Netflix, Gadd took to social media to urge viewers not to seek out the real people behind the characters from the show, but within days Harvey had been identified as the woman the character 'Martha' was based on. At the time of recording this episode, the interview on 'Piers Morgan Uncensored' on TalkTV had not been aired, and as a result Lyle and Jacki were unable to comment on any of the specifics. However, in a wide-ranging chat, Lyle expresses his sympathy for Gadd, stating that as a creative you should feel safe to write based on lived experiences without the threat of the real peoples' identities being revealed. Jacki discusses Fiona Harvey's lack of PR representation, with Lyle asking whether it is necessary to provide the PR equivalent of legal aid in situations where individuals with mental health issues find themselves in these highly exposing TV situations. Jacki and Lyle both agree that the TalkTV interview is exploitative of Harvey, who has seemingly offered to tell her story without understanding the consequences of sanctioning such a move. Jacki finally discusses what an indictment this situation is on where we find ourselves as a country, with Jacki worrying that the lack of mental health care provision in the UK leads people like Harvey to seek outlets like this instead of looking for the appropriate help for her condition.


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle are joined by the fantastic Amelia and Lydia Miller. The two sisters are the co-founders of Ivee, a tech platform that helps women return to the workforce after a career break and connects companies with this qualified, yet completely untapped, talent pool. Amelia is a published Gender Psychologist from the University of Cambridge as well as being a Behavioural Economics and Gender Pay Gap Specialist, and Lydia is a Future of Work Specialist and Diversity in VC Expert who has previously worked as a Deloitte Ventures CVC Investor. In an absolutely fantastic episode, Amelia and Lydia discuss the inspiration behind creating Ivee, telling the story of their mother who took a career break earlier in her career having worked at a very high level as an accountant for a number of years, but upon her return to work was forced to take a job below her pay grade and one which she was significantly overqualified for. Amelia and Lydia say that, sadly, this experience is not unique to their mother, and that there are still a number of women who experience what is known as the 'Motherhood Penalty' when looking to return to work after a career break. They point to Claudia Goldin's Nobel Prize-winning research when it comes to how the issue of the gender pay gap can be addressed, and how companies they work with need to ensure they have effective flexibility policies in order to achieve the Ivee seal of approval! Jacki discusses the PR appeal of Amelia and Lydia's story, and offers her own advice on how they can move forward in this respect with Ivee, before Lyle asks the question he was dying to ask - what it's like to work together as sisters!


    For more information on the brilliant work Amelia and Lydia are doing, head to: https://ivee.jobs/


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle discuss the ongoing issues with current PR professional resources, and the impact they are having on the art of pitching. Jacki in particular has become increasingly aware of certain PR resources, such as database and newswire platforms, lagging behind when it comes to their functionality and effectiveness in what is an ever-evolving industry. Moreover, Jacki points to how much these resources continue to cost without offering anything new in this fast-paced and competitive space. Lyle and Jacki delve into how the industry has evolved, and offer their thoughts on what new tools and resources would prove useful to professionals who are needing to be more and more inventive with their pitching strategies. On these strategies, Lyle and Jacki discuss the need for PR professionals to do more than simply source journalists email addresses and other contact details and send out an array of releases, with the industry increasingly rewarding professionals who go the extra mile and find a variety of ways to contact and build relationships with journalists and clients alike. Finally, Jacki issues a plea to anyone developing brand new tools and resources to get in touch with the podcast, with Lyle agreeing that there must be a desire by some within the industry to utilise these new technologies moving forward!


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  • This week, Jacki and Lyle are back with a follow-up to their preview of the Netflix film, Scoop, starring Gillian Anderson, Billie Piper and Rufus Sewell. Based on the book of the same name by Sam McAlister, played by Piper, this Netflix drama did not disappoint as it recreated the story of one of the most notorious television interviews in history - Emily Maitlis and her interview with Prince Andrew regarding his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and allegations of sexual abuse towards young women being trafficked by Epstein. Jacki and Lyle both praise the fantastic performances of the central cast, with Anderson as Maitlis, Piper as McAlister, Sewell as Prince Andrew and Keeley Hawes as Andrew's private secretary Amanda Thirsk all drawing particular acclaim. Jacki asks for Lyle's opinion on how Maitlis' character was depicted in the film, before assessing how Andrew represents what many in the PR industry would describe as a 'problematic client', with reference to his insistence on going about things his own way rather than listen to experts around him. Lyle draws comparisons between how it would appear McAlister obtained this interview and how Martin Bashir secured his interview with Diana, with the former seemingly working with Andrew's team to help them towards what they felt was the best course of action, and the latter having recently been found to have used manipulative tactics to coerce the then Princess of Wales into being interviewed. Jacki ultimately questions, with reference to the Netflix drama, why the Palace elected to press ahead with the Newsnight interview with little to none of their own conditions put in place, with Lyle asking whether this can be considered a turning point in securing the future of the programme itself.


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    Music by Lyle Fulton


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