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  • Conflict is no one’s favorite, but it is an inevitable part of life. And today Donna Jones teaches us why it’s nothing to be afraid of by busting some of the most common misunderstandings that lead to conflict avoidance, and providing a biblical roadmap to handle conflict in a healthy way.

    Tune in to learn more about approaching conflict in a healthy, biblical way.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    The biggest mistakes most couples make in conflict

    The trick to de-escalate in the heat of the moment.

    The inner characteristics that build better conflict habits

    Help to break conflict patterns in your marriage

    The healthy way to apologize well

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    QUOTES

    “When we handle conflict in a healthy way, the outcome is peace. Peace between us and who we have conflict with; peace in our own souls.” - Donna Jones

    “When we are in conflict, it literally affects everything about us. We function, but on the inside, we’re torn to pieces.” - Donna Jones

    “The reason so many of us think conflict is bad, is that we never learned to see how conflict can turn out good.” - Donna Jones

    “When we have conflict, we tend to think it means 1 of 3 things: There’s something wrong with you; there’s something wrong with me, or there’s something wrong with us. But conflict doesn’t mean that.” - Donna Jones

    “No relationship can survive an atmosphere of disrespect over the long haul.” - Donna Jones

    “The most important thing is not an act, it’s an attitude: Humility.” - Donna Jones

    “If you want to know how strong a person really is, look for humility.” - Donna Jones



    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Order Donna’s book Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life today!

    Find Donna on her website, on Instagram @DonnaAJones or Facebook @donnajonesspeak/

    For more help to break the conflict cycle, sign up for Dr. Kim’s “8 Guidelines for Fighting Fair Webinar”

    If your marriage is feeling a bit blah, the Marriage Refresher is the jumpstart you need to bring fresh life into your marriage!

  • We have gotten a lot of questions about gaslighting and narcissism, and today Dr. Kim is answering. This topic is layered and one podcast episode cannot take the place of more in-depth interventions, but we can offer helpful and hopeful next steps. In today’s episode we’re covering how to know what constitutes abuse versus the sin nature we all struggle with. Listen for

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    Marriage counseling doesn’t work with abusers – So what does?

    Can a marriage recover after long-term gaslighting?

    How to diagnose abuse using the power and control wheel

    Does the “gray rock” strategy work in marriage?

    Reasons why emotional abuse is often dismissed

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    QUOTES

    “Narcissism is all about power and control. Neither of those have a place in marriage at all.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “I don't think God expects anyone to live in an abusive situation. In many ways, it’s as much a violation of vows as adultery is to not take seriously your vow to love and cherish your spouse.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “You deserve to be safe.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “If you look at the message of the BIble, you can’t defend any type of abuse, for any person, ever.” - Lindsay Few

    “The goal would be repentance and reconciliation.” - Lindsay Few

    “The reason a lot of people minimize emotional abuse because they haven’t seen it.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “I’ve seen people who gaslight and don't really understand what they’ve been doing.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “Nobody’s uplifted or brought closer to Christ through manipulative behaviors.” - Lindsay Few

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    The Power and Control Wheel is helpful to understand what constitutes abuse

    If your marriage is doing okay but could use a jumpstart, then this 5 Week Marriage Refresher Challenge is for you!

    Past episodes on the topic:

    Gaslighting in Marriage

    Accidental Gaslighting

    When is Enough Enough? With Dr. David E. Clarke

    Recent series with Kathy’s Story

    Escaping an Emotionally Abusive Marriage: Kathy’s Story | Ep. 608

    Escaping an Emotionally Abusive Marriage Part 2: Seeking Church Support | Kathy’s Story Ep. 609

    Escaping an Emotionally Abusive Marriage Part 3: Help to Get Out and Get Safe | Ep. 610

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  • Is there a war on fathers? Our guest on today’s podcast thinks so. The impact of fathers on their kids is so valuable, yet it’s incredibly difficult to know how to engage purposefully in the process of parenting.

    If you’ve had a hand in raising kids, you already know that parenting is not for the faint of heart! That’s why we are so thankful to share today’s episode and Kent Evans’ practical advice and encouragement for dads. Kent Evans is a wise and helpful mentor for dads who are searching for their purpose in parenting. Listen and learn Kent’s simple, practical tips for dads and moms alike.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    What prevents dads from being confident to engage in fatherhood?

    The reasons why your kids need an imperfect dad

    Advice for the dad who feels like it’s too late to start to engage well

    Steps to growing in your purpose as a dad

    Advice for the wife who wants her husband to engage

    An incredible tip for finding friends & community

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    QUOTES

    “Satan wants us to take us out of the fatherhood game by getting us to self-select and walk off the field.” - Kent Evans

    “God wants to be known as a dad, therefore there’s a war on fathers.” - Kent Evans

    “My experience as a dad is that God can take care of the things I mess up.” - Dr. Kim

    “Even if we could be perfect, it would not be beneficial. It would deprive them of the example of how to fall off the horse then get back on.” - Kent Evans

    There are few things more motivating to a man than the praise of his wife, but it’s multiplied by an exponent when she does it in front of the children.” - Kent Evans

    “I didn’t get it right. I didn’t do it perfectly, but God took my loaves and fishes and they landed as nourishment.”

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Grab Kent’s great tools for dads at ManhoodJourney.org

    Listen to the Father on Purpose Podcast

    With the Creative Questions Bundle you will NOT lack for great conversation topics! Get all the details here!

    Sign up here to get the Couple’s Conversation Guide for each episode!

  • Marriage doesn’t have to get boring 
 but for too many couples, it has. If you’re ready to break out of the routine and restore the joy in your marriage, this one's for you!

    Listen for ways to have more interesting and connective conversations, new ideas of things to try, and how to avoid common mistakes that keep couples from enjoying their marriage.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    Better questions to ask for better conversations

    2 common mistakes that keep couples from having fun together

    Several ideas for fun things to try

    For Dr. Kim’s bullet point list of steps, sign up for the Conversation Guide

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    QUOTES

    “When we’re dating our future wife, we guys up our game.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “We loved our time with our kids, but we realized we also had to be intentional about our marriage.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “You have to give yourself time to do the fun stuff. The mundane will still be there when you’re done.” - Lindsay Few

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    With the Creative Questions Bundle you will NOT lack for great conversation topics! Get all the details here!

    Check in on your marriage each week with our Weekly Check In Guide to keep your connection strong

    Sign up here to get the Couple’s Conversation Guide for each episode!

    Questions to Help Your Spouse Open Up

    Is there a marriage resource you need us to make? Tell us your idea!

    Arlene Pellicane will be on the podcast later this summer. She has written some great books on tech in the family!

    Cool, Calm and Connected: 5 Digital Habits for a More Balanced Life

    Growing Up Social: Raising Relational Kids in a Screen-Driven World

    Screen Kids: 5 Skills Every Child Needs in a Tech-Driven World



  • Do you ever feel like you and your spouse are two ships passing in the night? Strangers living under the same roof? Business partners executing the plans you’ve made for your kids and household? Then you’re in a disconnected marriage. The marriage relationship should nurture both spouses.

    If you’ve lost the connection in your marriage, or just want to step up from where you are right now, tune in today to learn the practical steps for reconnecting.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    Why do couples disconnect?

    The steps to reconnection

    A helpful source for fun marriage ideas and resources

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!



    QUOTES

    “Little tweaks can make such a difference.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “Living separate lives is not going to get you a connected, fun marriage.” Christina Dodson

    “We weren’t always there but we chose to stay in the marriage and work through things. It’s worth it.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “You can continue to grow, but you have to work at it.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Check in on your marriage each week with our Weekly Check In Guide to keep your connection strong Creative Questions Bundle

    Sign up here to get the Couple’s Conversation Guide for each episode!

    The Sex Talk course equips you to teach your kids about sex in a biblical, God-honoring way

  • If your marriage communication is a struggle, you are NOT alone. So many marriage issues come back to communication, and if your communication is awesome, your marriage will be too! But most of us will have some trouble with communicating well with our spouse, and it’s the biggest issue couples ask us for help with. That’s why today we’re equipping you with 6 tips to communicate well in the good times and in the bad.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    How to talk so your spouse can listen

    Use the “title page” trick to help your spouse listen to you

    Dr. Kim’s 6 tips to communicate well

    How to find a good counselor if you need one

    How to restart the openness & honesty in your marriage

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    QUOTES

    “I think what happens for guys is that when we’re dating our future wife, we up our game.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “It’s hard for me to put my thoughts and feelings into succinct words.I can easily ramble on
 but that doesn’t make for good communication.” - Lindsay Few

    “The bottom line is you want them to hear what you’re saying, so how do you best communicate in a way that they’re going to hear it?” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “If you’re going through a hard time, call it that. Work together to reclaim your time and energy.” - Lindsay Few

    “We can’t give away every piece of our heart, mind, time and energy to things that drain the life out of us.” - Lindsay Few



    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Get the Couple’s Conversation Guide for each episode by signing up here!

    The Sex Talk course equips you to teach your kids about sex in a biblical, God-honoring way

    Dr. Kim’s blogs on questions to ask your counselor:

    4 Qualities Your Christian Counselor Needs

    3 Things A Counselor Needs To Believe to Help Your Marriage

    3 Mistakes Couples Make When They Try Counseling

    Our FREE Weekly Check In Guide helps with regular communication

    Making Your Marriage a Refuge with Special Guest Gary Thomas Ep. 530

    Achieving Awesome Communication in Marriage YouVersion Plan

  • It often feels like the world around us is too broken. Where would you even start if you wanted to try and fix it? On the podcast today, Charlie and Andi Ashworth answer this question, and thankfully their answer is much simpler and more doable than it might seem.

    The Ashworths have spent decades sharing their creative gifts and encouraging others to do the same, and in today’s episode they artfully equip you to take small steps toward creativity, community, and reflecting the light of God’s love, right where you are.

    Don’t miss this bonus episode! We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    How should Christians engage with culture?

    A call for culture making - and how simple it is to actually do it

    Why the small things matter - and how to use them for good in your life

    Hope for becoming the remedy to the loneliness epidemic

    How to balance the desire for creativity and the need to get things done

    Battling the dis-integration of “mundane” versus doing things we like

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    QUOTES

    “We make less and less meaning of everything now, because it’s happening so fast and we’re receiving so much information.” - Charlie Ashworth

    “There’s no small people; there’s no small things. Everything matters.” - Charlie Ashworth

    “We don’t know the stories that will continue after we do.” - Andi Ashworth

    “If all of life matters to God, then all of life matters to us.” - Andi Ashworth

    “We want a formula 
 but it is a process.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “Based on your faith in Christ, what kind of culture are you making? Are you contributing good? Or are you contributing negativity?” - Charlie Ashworth

    “It’s antithetical to the word of God and to creation itself to think that we as people of God are somehow standing outside of it. It actually creates an ‘us’ versus ‘them’ mentality that is so unhealthy.” - Charlie Ashworth

    “Start with where you're at: You're actually getting up and making culture every day.” - Andi Ashworth

    “As an artist, maturity looks like a seamless integration of a diversity of creativity over time.” - Charlie Peacock

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Charlie and Andi’s book, Why Everything That Doesn't Matter, Matters So Much: The Way of Love in a World of Hurt

    Find more from the Ashworths on their website: https://thewriterthehusband.com/

    Andy Crouch’s book Culture Making

    Learn 7 reasons why your sex life may not be where you want it to be, and how to get it there! Sign up here for the 9 Ways to Improve Your Sex Life Webinar

  • Your marriage needs trust in order to be healthy. Without it, your connection with your spouse will fade, and you’ll experience more conflict and tension, and less of the closeness and intimacy marriage is meant to have. Don’t stay stuck like this! Turn things around by closing the trust gaps between you and your spouse and make your marriage a safe refuge for both of you.

    Episode highlights include:

    Areas where you might not realize you lack trust

    How to address it effectively with your spouse - without blaming

    How to have grace in the rebuilding process

    Tips to building financial trust

    Practical tips to become more trustworthy with completing tasks

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!



    QUOTES

    “Without trust in a marriage, the marriage just crumbles.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “We don’t realize how valuable trust is until it’s broken.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “Trust can be unique to the person and the situation.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “We have to own what’s driving our trust-breaking behavior.” - Lindsay Few

    “The budget isn’t a prison, it’s a plan. But sometimes it will be uncomfortable.” - Lindsay Few

    “The sooner you go to counseling, the sooner you’ll resolve your issues.” - Lindsay Few

    “If you get stuck, you don’t have to stay stuck.” - Lindsay Few

    “Your spouse may make some mistakes, so look for Jesus in your spouse.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “I felt like he should trust me 
 but my action was not giving him anything to trust.” - Lindsay Few

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Sign up HERE to get the Couple’s Conversation Guide for each week’s new episode

    We are bombarded with negative messages about marriage. FIGHT BACK with our Reframing Challenge

    If your marriage has been damaged by porn, the 5 Steps to Healing After Porn Betrayal webinar is a great first step to healing. Learn more or grab your spot here.

    Warm Up Your Marriage (Past Episode)

  • Today we answer some of the most frequently asked questions we hear about sex. Dr. Kim and Christina covered this on an episode in 2021, and we’ve distilled their conversation into the most timeless and practical answers to common sex questions.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    How often is “normal”?

    Dealing with dead sex drive

    Is oral sex ok in marriage? What about anal?

    Is there such thing as too much sex when trying to conceive?

    How to start talking to your kids about sex

    What do do if your spouse withholds sex

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    QUOTES

    “Guys, you have to continue to be romantic.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “I wanted my kids to talk to me about sex before they went to a friend or read it on a bathroom wall or a magazine. You want that door to be open.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “You need to honor each other and respect each other’s body to honor God in marriage.” - Christina Dodson

    “Guys, if you please your wife first, does it really matter when you orgasm? There's this unspoken pressure.” - Christina Dodson

    “There’s always an answer. I’ve never had a couple we couldn’t figure out an answer for.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “Stay at the comfort level of the one who is least comfortable. If you do that, you’re going to be ok.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Sign up HERE to get the Couple’s Conversation Guide for each week’s new episode

    Dr. Kim’s Marriage Multiplier is a quick weekly email with actionable insights to grow your marriage. Sign up HERE!

    Resources we recommend for starting the sex conversation with your spouse

    Celebration of Sex

    Lovemaking Survey

    Resources we recommend for talking to your kids about sex:

    Don’t Mom Alone Podcast Ep 328

    Full Set - God's Design for Sex Series: Revised and Updated Edition by Stan Jones, Brenna Jones

    We’re delighted to partner with The Sex Talk, an excellent online course to help you navigate this topic well

  • Trust in marriage is not one-size-fits all. There are many areas where your marriage needs trust in order to thrive, and some might matter to your spouse more than they do to you, and vice versa. So today we’re talking about how to navigate any trust gaps you may have with your spouse, how to start the conversation about it, and rebuild what’s been broken so you both feel more connected and secure in your marriage.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    Several types of trust marriages need, and why they matter

    The side effects of missing trust

    Simple steps to catch a trust slip-up so that trust is not broken

    Specific trust-killers you need to avoid

    How to build trust - and keep it

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    QUOTES

    “It helps to build trust if you accept me as I am, not as you wish I would be.” - Lindsay Few

    “I may not even be aware if I did something that affected the trust, and I want to know.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “If it’s important to her and it keeps coming up, I want her to tell me about it.” Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “I’d be so offended when he didn’t trust me, but when I think about the reality, I wasn’t trustworthy.” - Lindsay Few

    “Trust is between two people. It’s not just your perception of yourself.” - Lindsay Few

    “It’s not like we quit making mistakes, it’s just that we handle them differently now.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling



    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    What would happen if you took the next 4 weeks to reframe your spouse and your marriage with a biblical approach? Cultivate a better perspective – and a better marriage, with our Reframing Challenge

    Sign up HERE to get the Couple’s Conversation Guide for each week’s new episode

    Does your sex life need a reboot? Improve your sex life with our Locking Lips Kissing Game!

    If your marriage has been damaged by porn, the Marriage Undefiled Online Course provides a path to rebuild trust and repair your marriage.

    Click HERE to get the Couple’s Conversation Guide for each week’s new episode!

    The free printable Weekly Check Up is a simple way to keep short accounts and keep building trust.

  • Does lust have a place in marriage? What sets it apart from sexual desire? Today we’re working through the reasons this question matters for your marriage, and how to have a marriage that glorifies God in every aspect, including how you steward your sexual desires.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    Defining the difference between lust and desire, biblically

    The godly purposes for sexual desire in marriage

    Specific reasons why misused sexual desire is destructive

    How to maintain purity in marriage

    Why porn affects your marriage even if your spouse doesn’t know you use it

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    QUOTES

    “Lust is more about what you see, what you’re attracted to and what it can do for you.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “In the Bible, it’s not like they lived in a Puritanical culture at that time. No, it was probably every bit as bad
we just access things in a different way now.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “If we look at Scripture, lust was never mentioned in a positive light.” - Lindsay Few

    “We won’t ever clear that bar, but he’s taken care of it through his life, death and resurrection, so there is grace and forgiveness.” - Lindsay Few

    “The best sex is within the context of a Christian marriage.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “If it’s reduced to that ‘just get it over with’ kind of situation, whoa. Red flag. The goal is not just to satisfy the urge, the goal is mutual enjoyment, pleasure, connection and building of the marriage.” - Lindsay Few

    “Vulnerability is uncomfortable, but it can lead you to prevent something a lot more painful.” - Lindsay Few

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    If your marriage has been damaged by porn, our free 5 Steps to Healing After Porn Betrayal webinar with Dr. Kim is a great first step toward healing

    Our Marriage Undefiled Online Course with Matt Cline takes a deeper look at ways to heal and restore your marriage

    Sign up HERE to get the Couple’s Conversation Guide for each week’s new episode

    Getting Your Sex Life Off To A Great Start by Cliff & Joyce Penner

    The Gift of Sex by Cliff & Joyce Penner

    The Best Way to Affair Proof Your Marriage (Past Episode)

    Does your sex life need a reboot? Improve your sex life with our Locking Lips Kissing Game!

  • Most couples are not going to be completely aligned with sex drive. There are a lot of factors that can cause this, but there are also a lot of solutions!

    Today we want to equip you to have a productive approach to making your sex life the best it can be in marriage.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    Why is it so hard to have a productive conversation about sex?

    Should the lower-drive spouse “just do it” for the spouse’s sake? Why or why not?

    Why respecting your wife’s drive level helps her feel sexy

    Ways to respect your spouse’s drive

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    What would happen if you took the next 4 weeks to reframe your spouse and your marriage with a biblical approach? Learn how to have a better perspective – and a better marriage, with our Reframing Challenge

    Does your sex life need a reboot? Improve your sex life with our Locking Lips Kissing Game!

    If your marriage has been damaged by porn, the Marriage Undefiled Online Course provides a path to rebuild trust and repair your marriage.

    Click HERE to get the Couple’s Conversation Guide for each week’s new episode!

  • Do you hope to break generational patterns of pain? Are childhood hurts haunting your marriage? Today’s guest Kristen Hallinan is a writer and speaker, and today she helps you see how to identify and break generational patterns to find hope, healing and redemption.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    How your past trauma can affects your current reactions

    What makes it so hard to break cycles

    Red flags of unhealthy family dynamics

    How to work with God to find his redemption

    Steps to making a redemption plan for your marriage

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!



    QUOTES

    “It can be easy to say, ‘Why didn’t I know better?’ You didn’t know better because that’s all you knew.” - Kristen Hallinan

    “The more I’ve gotten to know who God is, the more I understand who I am.”- Kristen Hallinan

    “I used to believe if I just tried hard enough, I could grow up and create this perfect family.” - Kristen Hallinan



    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Sign up HERE to get the Couple’s Conversation Guide for each week’s new episode

    Learn more about how to make your marriage conflict healthy by joining Dr. Kim for the 8 Guidelines for Fighting Fair Webinar

    Dr. Kim recommends the book, The Body Keeps the Score

    Grab Kristen’s book, Legacy Changer for more great info on the topic

    Follow Kristen on Instagram and check out her website

  • Today we are sharing the final episode with Kathy McAtee Young and her story of finding safety after decades in an abusive marriage. In this episode Kathy shares some of the barriers that prevent spouses in abusive marriages from seeking safety and help, ways to begin moving out of the abusive relationship, and the ways healing begins afterward.

    Don’t miss the conclusion to Kathy’s story. We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    Reasons that abused spouse don’t trust their own judgment

    Steps to get out of an abusive marriage

    Is it ever appropriate to intervene if you believe someone is being abused?

    What the process of healing looks like after you get safe

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!



    QUOTES

    “One of the hallmarks of an unsafe relationship is confusion.” - Kathy McAtee Young

    “God sees you. He cares. And he is faithful.” - Kathy McAtee Young

    “We don’t want your pity. Compassion, yes. There is a difference.” - Kathy McAtee Young

    “Healing is a lifestyle, not a finish line.” - Kathy McAtee Young

    “When you can name it, then you can process it.” - Kathy McAtee Young

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline : 800-799-7233 https://www.thehotline.org/

    Visit Kathy’s website to learn about the helpful resources and services she offers

    Kathy can also be reached for coaching on Instagram

    This previous episode explains a Biblical perspective on abuse

    Lies That Keep You With Your Abuser with Dr. David E Clarke | Ep. 541



  • Today in Part 2 of Kathy’s story, Kathy shares the ways she sought support from the church when she realized her marriage was in trouble, the responses she received, and the effects that had on her marriage. In this episode Kathy shares why it’s not possible for the abused spouse to end the abuse, and the difference between biblical versus unbiblical advice about abuse.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    Interventions the church put in place, and why they were not successful

    The wake up moment that turned things around for Kathy

    What is an appropriate response to spousal abuse?

    The red flags that advice or counsel about abuse is unbiblical

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    Red flags that advice or counsel about abuse is unbiblical

    They won’t call out that abuse is abuse

    They will not call the abuse sin

    The safety of the abused spouse is not top priority

    There is no call for repentance

    They advise you to stay, regardless

    Blaming the abused for the abuse

    QUOTES

    “There is one person responsible for abuse: It is the abuser.” - Kathy McAtee Young

    “The Bible definitely commands forgiveness. It does not command reconciliation.” - Kathy McAtee Young

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline : 800-799-7233 https://www.thehotline.org/

    Visit Kathy’s website to learn about the helpful resources and services she offers

    Kathy can also be reached for coaching on Instagram

    This previous episode explains a Biblical perspective on abuse

    Lies That Keep You With Your Abuser with Dr. David E Clarke | Ep. 541

  • When does an unhealthy marriage become an abusive marriage? Where can you go when you need to get out? In today’s episode we hear part 1 of Kathy’s real marriage story. Kathy shares how she came to believe that divorce was the most God-honoring option in her situation, and how she found safety after 30+ years in an emotionally abusive marriage.

    We are so grateful to Kathy for generously sharing her story. We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    Dispelling myths about who falls into abuse

    Why marriage counseling does not work in abusive marriages

    How Kathy learned her marriage was abusive

    Why she stayed as long as she did, and why she later divorced

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    This previous episode defines a clear Biblical perspective on abuse:

    Lies That Keep You With Your Abuser with Dr. David E Clarke | Ep. 541

    QUOTES

    “I want to debunk the myth that abused women are poorly educated, lower income, women who can easily be taken advantage of. That’s just not accurate.” - Kathy McAtee Young

    “Within the first year, I knew we had trouble
” - Kathy McAtee Young

    “Marriage counseling does not work if there’s abuse involved. I know that now.” - Kathy McAtee Young

    “Most people who are narcissists are really good at it.” - Dr. Kim Kimberling

    “You have this idea that, ‘If she could fix all these things, then I wouldn’t be this way.’ That’s the blame shifting.” - Kathy McAtee Young

    “The heart of abuse is power and control. Everything else is tactics.” - Kathy McAtee Young

  • Do you fight fair, or do you wish there was a referee to call a stop to the foul play when you argue with your spouse? Ground rules are an important step toward having healthy marriage conflict, so today Dr. Kim will spell out how to make sure you’re fighting fair in your marriage. We want to empower you to fight fair, and resolve issues in a kind and loving way.

    If you need help to fight fair and truly resolve issues without making things worse, you will love today’s conversation.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    The DOs and DON’Ts of fighting fair

    The side effects of unhealthy conflict

    A healthy way to “let it all out”

    Can honesty go too far? How do you know?

    Tips to the reconnection process - how to make up well

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    QUOTES

    “We both learned we needed to reconnect and apologize, but sometimes we werent’ ready to take that step at the same time. We had to learn that somebody needs to take the step. It doesn’t really matter who started the fight or who was wrong.”

    “Taking responsibility is huge. Owning your part in it, even if you think you only did 10%, you still did 10%.”

    “What are you sorry for? Be very specific in what you did and why you're taking responsibility.”

    “I say it a lot: One of the best gifts you can give your marriage is to learn how to resolve conflict.”

    Forgiveness and apologies need to have no strings attached. It’s just that I choose to do this.

    We’re not just trying to clear a slate so our spouse stops bugging us. Have you repented before the Lord? That’s where this starts.

    We are accountable to Him before being accountable to our spouse. Did I just treat my spouse in the way He would have me treat them? If not, I need to take that up with Him

    QUESTIONS FOR YOU

    When you really think about it, how did it affect your spouse when you had this conflict?

    Repentance. Learning from the mistakes made and committing to work on them together.

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Learn more about how to make your marriage conflict healthy by joining Dr. Kim for the 8 Guidelines for Fighting Fair Webinar

    Our Conflict Resolution Cheat Sheet is your quick guide to get marriage conflict on the right track.

    If you’re ready to learn how to do conflict well, the Conflict Resolution Guide helps you diagnose the problem areas in your marriage, then learn the steps to resolve them.

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  • Sick of the same old fights over and over with your spouse? Learn to de-escalate marriage fights and resolve issues in a healthy and helpful way. Conflict in marriage is inevitable, but the way you handle it is what matters most. Learning to deal with it well will benefit your marriage in so many ways! Tune in today to learn how.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    Common conflict pitfalls to avoid

    The problem with “winning” marriage fights

    Tips to help you break the fighting cycle

    What to do if one spouse is not ready to reconnect

    DISCUSSION QUESTIONS:

    Are you stuck in a conflict cycle? If so, work together to identify what’s triggering it.

    Choose 1 tip from Dr. Kim’s list below that you will both agree to use this week.

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    QUOTES

    “When we try our best to avoid conflict, we’re not really equipping ourselves with the skills to handle it well.” - Lindsay Few

    “Awareness gives you some insight that can really be useful.” Dr. Kim Kimberling

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Learn more about how to make your marriage conflict healthy by joining Dr. Kim for the 8 Guidelines for Fighting Fair Webinar

    Our Conflict Resolution Cheat Sheet is your quick guide to get marriage conflict on the right track.

    If you’re ready to learn how to do conflict well, the Conflict Resolution Guide helps you diagnose the problem areas in your marriage, then learn the steps to resolve them.

    It’s here! Our 7 Most Popular Resource Bundle is LIVE! That means you can get 7 of our most-loved marriage building resources by making 1 donation of ANY amount to support the ministry of Awesome Marriage! The bundle is available for a limited time only. Get all the details here!

  • Learn how conflict can create a deeper connection between you and your spouse. Today’s special guest, marriage coach Dana Che is very open about the struggles her marriage faced. In today’s episode she shares her marriage story, what got them through, and how you can use the conflict you face in marriage to draw you toward deeper connection.

    We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    What we can learn from our conflict triggers

    How to deal with different conflict styles in marriage

    Steps to break generational cycles in your marriage

    The power of speaking life to our spouse and our marriage

    How being emotionally unavailable tends to show up in husbands and in wives & what to do about it

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!



    QUOTES

    “As a wife, I knew I couldn’t change my husband 
 but that didn’’ keep me from trying.” Dana Che

    “When you actually engage in conflict, you can start to learn more about your spouse, what’s important to them.” -Dana Che

    “You’ve got to feed the right things if you want to change the wrong things.” - Dana Che

    “Just like you learned that bad behavior, you can unlearn it and learn something new.” Dana Che

    “True repentance is visible.” Dana Che

    “What we believe, we will begin to speak. What we speak, we will begin to behave.” Dana Che



    QUESTIONS FOR YOU

    What does your most recent marriage conflict reveal about what’s most valuable to you?

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Find more from Dana at DanaChe.com, where you can take her “Connection Check” quiz

    Listen to the “Real Relationship Talk” podcast

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  • Why do Christians need counseling? Isn’t the Gospel enough to transform us? We hear these questions fairly often. Today Dr. Kim and special guest Jason VanRuler dive deeper into these questions and the conversation about the role of therapy and counseling in a life devoted to following Jesus.

    Don’t miss this helpful conversation! We pray this episode is helpful for you and your marriage.

    Episode highlights include:

    How often do clients have no idea that they haven’t gotten past their past?

    Unexpected ways your past might be showing up & affecting your marriage today

    Updating the negative messages we believe about ourselves

    The effect of vulnerability on our marriage connection

    *Music for this podcast is created by Noah Copeland. Check him out here!

    QUOTES

    “Where there's a disconnect in relationships, it’s often a disconnect from the system we witnessed growing up and what we’re trying to make happen today.” - Jason VanRuler

    “When we get comfortable, the old ways seep out to the surface.” - Jason VanRuler

    “Every time a client says a negative message about themselves, I ask, is that the message you think God gave you?” - Jason VanRuler

    “One of my great joys is working with people to eliminate distractions so they can focus on the truth and live the life God has called them to.”- Jason VanRuler

    “If we want to feel connected and we’re not feeling connected, a lot of times that emotional intimacy and depth is the missing link.” - Jason VanRuler

    “When we get vulnerable and honest, it attracts intimacy from our partner and we have a different relationship.” - Jason VanRuler

    “The marriage we want is often on the other side of vulnerability. We just don’t often know how to get there.”- Jason VanRuler

    QUESTIONS FOR YOU

    Do you recognize any ways you haven’t gotten past your past?

    MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

    Get Jason’s book, Get Past Your Past

    His site: https://www.jasonvr.com/

    If you’re ready to heal your marriage from p*rn, join us for the “5 Steps to Healing After P*rn Betrayal” LIVE webinar.

    Joining Marriage Changers now means you score a huge haul of marriage-building goods when our annual *7 Most-Popular Resource Bundle* goes live on April 2nd!