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Weâve all hit periods when the honeymoon is over or youâve hit a plateau and youâre too fatigued to keep the momentum going. Itâs a familiar feeling of being tired or lacking motivationâwhether itâs a professional or personal pursuit.
To get out of these ruts, we discuss:
- recognizing the different types of exhaustion (from overwhelm to boredom)
- why overindulgence and deprioritizing self-care arenât a long-term fix
- tips for redirecting restlessness into something energizing that you can use
- knowing when to take a break or push through
- and whether we prefer to eat the frog or use the snowball method to actually get things done
Mentioned in the episode:
Nine Strategies To Push Past Fatigue And Accomplish Your Goals Each Day: https://www.forbes.com/councils/theyec/2021/06/01/nine-strategies-to-push-past-fatigue-and-accomplish-your-goals-each-day/
Adolescence: https://www.netflix.com/watch/81763204
How to Make Millions Before Grandma Dies: https://www.netflix.com/watch/81786970
âTell Me Everythingâ by Minka Kelly: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250852069/tellmeeverything/
Agent Nateur Calm (Beauty) Spermidine & Taurine Daily Supplement: https://www.agentnateur.com/products/calm-beauty-spermidine-taurine-daily-supplement
BIOptimizers Magnesium Breakthrough Supplement: https://bioptimizers.com/shop/products/magnesium-breakthrough
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Here we go again! The word on everyoneâs lips right now around jobs and money is recession. Whether this is your first recession or youâve been through this rodeo many times, now is a good time to start thinking about readying your money and reading all the ârecession-proof your careerâ articles.
We chat about:
- not making all decisions from a place of fear
- why this could be a great time to make bold career/life decisions
- passive vs. proactive approaches to financial preparation
- leaning into community and avoiding isolation
- and more!
Reminder: We are not financial advisors so take our commentary with a grain of salt and consult an advisor before making any money moves!
Mentioned in the episode:
Is the U.S. Heading Into a Recession Amid Trumpâs Tariffs?: https://time.com/7274531/trump-tariffs-is-the-us-heading-into-a-recession-stock-market-fears/
âHow to Recession Proof Your Financesâ by One Big Happy Life YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2-gkXtsFs
Monica Razak YouTube: https://youtube.com/@monicarazak
Kat Stickler on Low Maintenance Friends (TikTok): https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTj1Rjo2X/
MOFT: https://www.moft.us/
Prevention: https://www.prevention.com/
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Zijn er afleveringen die ontbreken?
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Whether you call it a micro-retirement or a sabbatical or funemployment, the idea of taking a period of not working (or scaling back work) in the middle of your career isnât something new. Weâre all likely to be working longer, and living longer, so waiting until 65 to formally retire and enjoy your life doesnât feel like a guarantee the way it did for our parentsâ or grandparentsâ generation. RenĂ©e has taken one and highly recommends a break for anyone who can fit it into their budget and lifestyle.
This week, we discuss:
- planning your micro-retirement or career break
- if forced unemployment (like a layoff or firing) counts?
- using the break to relieve burnout, pursue passion projects, or pivot careers
- building a balanced life/career where you donât need breaks
- and so much more!
Mentioned in the episode:
Burned-out Workers are Considering 'Micro-retirement.' Here's What It Is and How to Do It Successfully: https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-micro-retirement-burn-out-work-sabbatical-2024-12
Youâre Going to Work a Long Time. Hereâs How to Build in Breaks: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/11/your-money/work-time-out-career-longevity.html
@brianluebben TikTok on Micro-Retirement: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2TVQfD3/
âMicro-Retirementâ: The New Career Trend Rising Among Gen Z: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrobinson/2025/01/29/micro-retirement-the-new-career-trend-rising-among-gen-z/
Data Shows Retirementâs Negative Effect on Mortality Rates: https://business.purdue.edu/news/features/2022/retirement.php
The WonderMart: https://www.thewondermart.shop/
OPI Put It In Neutral: https://www.opi.com/products/nail-lacquer-put-it-in-neutral
Pamela Anderson Substack: https://pamelaanderson.substack.com/
âHow to Move With Fear in Life & Businessâ by Glo Atanmo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyMU3JHDzOc
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Like many people, we are huge fans of the hit Apple TV+ show Severance. Itâs very bingeable and made us think about our own POVs on compartmentalizing our work and career from the rest of our lives. Is focusing entirely on productivity at the office and then never bringing work home a sign of good work-life balance, or are there downsides to mentally writing off huge chunks of your day?
This week, weâre doing something different with a TV episode to chat about some of the showâs themesâwe promise no spoilers!â and discuss:
- if weâd choose severance
- whether âbringing your whole selfâ to work is ever a good idea
- embracing the many roles we play in life vs. limiting ourselves to one identity
- how similar our innies and outies would be
- and much more! (#PraiseKier)
Mentioned in the episode:
Severance: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx
âSeveranceâ Is Officially Apple TV+âs Most Popular Show Ever: https://www.forbes.com/sites/dimitarmixmihov/2025/02/19/severance-is-officially-apple-tvs-most-popular-show-ever/
Call Her Daddyâs âEllen Pompeo: Pick Me, Choose Me, Pay Me Moreâ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jex1tGfWpno
âThe Work You Do, the Person You Areâ by Toni Morrison: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/06/05/toni-morrison-the-work-you-do-the-person-you-are
Buffy Neck Pain Relief Pillow: https://buffy.co/products/neck-pain-relief-pillow
Danny & Coopâs Cheesesteaks: https://www.instagram.com/dannyandcoops/
Perfect Days: https://www.hulu.com/movie/a68e2d56-eeb8-44f3-baaa-3ddb850bb67b
We the Urban x Doechii: https://www.instagram.com/wetheurban/p/DHjJJvGvk7P/
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Whether you live in the public eye or a more private life, sometimes the things we do or even just the way we exist in the world ruffles some feathers. It can feel like the more weâre doing big things or growing in popularity or visibility, the more we attract unwanted (and unwarranted) hate â especially for women. But the tradeoff is silencing yourself and not leaning into your greatnessâŠso we say, push through the criticism and do it anyway!
This week, we get into:
- the âcrabs in a bucketâ mentality
- pushing through the fear of standing out
- filtering the noise to find constructive criticism
- & much more
Mentioned in the episode:
Trashie: https://www.trashie.io/
Trashie, How We Recycle Textiles: https://www.trashie.io/how-we-recycle-textiles-tbb
TJ Maxx: https://tjmaxx.tjx.com
Myleik Teele Threads: https://www.threads.net/@myleik
Brianna Wiest Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/briannawiest/
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Weâre back with a Part 2 to last weekâs episode! This week, weâre talking about building good night routines, because what we do the night before sets us up for a better day.
We get into:
- our ideal nighttime routines
- our favorite tools and purchases for a better wind down or sleep routine
- how poor evening habits impact our performance
- and so much more!
Mentioned in the episode:
Kasa: https://www.kasasmart.com/
Hatch Alarm: https://www.hatch.co/
SILKE Londn: https://www.silkelondon.com/
CNP Laboratory Propolis Lipcerin (Honey Lip Butter): https://www.amazon.com/CNP-Honey-Butter-fl-oz-15ml/dp/B0CZXG68J4/
Fluff and Tuff: https://fluffandtuff.com/
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Rise and shine! This week, weâre discussing morning routines and how to build a morning program that sets us up to have a good day so we can live our best lives. We both believe itâs important to carve out time for self-care to pour into yourself so youâre not rolling out of bed and immediately into a meeting or emails.
We chat about:
- comparing our mornings to the aesthetic routines on social media
- routines vs. rituals to kickstart the day
- some of our favorite ideal AM habits
- finding and using your chronotype to build a morning schedule
- & much more!
Mentioned in the episode:
The Morning Routines of Successful People: https://www.wework.com/ideas/professional-development/management-leadership/the-morning-routines-of-successful-people
âThe 5AM Club: Own Your Morning. Elevate Your Life.â by Robin Sharma: https://www.robinsharma.com/books/the-5am-club
Chronoquiz: Whatâs Your Chronotype?: https://sleepdoctor.com/sleep-quizzes/chronotype-quiz
âThe Power of When: Discover Your Chronotype--and the Best Time to Eat Lunch, Ask for a Raise, Have Sex, Write a Novel, Take Your Meds, and Moreâ by Dr. Michael Breus: https://sleepdoctor.com/books
Millie Bobby Brown Instagram Reel on Media Scrutiny & Bullying: https://www.instagram.com/p/DGwZgLXSJuH/
With Love, Meghan: https://www.netflix.com/title/81770808
Reclaiming with Monica Lewinsky: https://wondery.com/shows/reclaiming-with-monica-lewinsky/
Baboon to the Moon TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT29ctGcg/
Baboon to the Moon: https://baboontothemoon.com/
Rose Han: https://rosehan.com/
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Ina Garten â aka the Barefoot Contessa â is the author of âBe Ready When The Luck Happens: A Memoirâ (along with 13 New York Times bestselling cookbooks), a beloved Food Network personality, Instagram sensation, and cultural icon. This was a slightly different book club pick for us, and we loved it! Inaâs memoir not only has an incredible, eye-catching title, but itâs full of life lessons and business advice about productivity, hard work, and love hidden in many charming anecdotes and stories.
For this book club chat, we dove into:
- her unique career path and willingness to start something new (at any age)
- having the right partner(s) to believe in and support you
- the importance of trying many things to figure out what feels right
- our favorite life and career lessons from Inaâs journey
- and so much more!
As Ina says, âYou never know your good breaks from your bad ones.â
Mentioned in the episode:
âBe Ready When the Luck Happensâ by Ina Garten: https://barefootcontessa.com/books/be-ready-when-the-luck-happens
Heather McMahan Does Ina Garten: https://www.instagram.com/heatherkmcmahan/tv/B976Ro1J1qP/
Ina Garten Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/inagarten
The Oprah Podcast with Ina Garten: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKs-2qufe80
SmashingGold: https://www.instagram.com/smashinggold/
MAED Beauty: https://www.maedbeauty.com
Raven Ross Instagram Reel on âWhat Youâre Not Changing, Youâre Choosingâ: https://www.instagram.com/p/DGYeEWZxKul/
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Upskilling is the hot word in the professional world lately. Whether you are looking to layoff-proof your job, or simply eager to attract more money, clients, and opportunities, itâs never a bad idea to continue growing your skills. As self-professed lifelong learners, we decided to hop on the mic to discuss what areas we want to level up in this year.
We get into:
- hard skills vs. soft skills
- whether everyone needs to learn AI
- growing your skills with online courses, on nonprofit boards, or at your company
- some of the classes and trainings weâre exploring this year
- and great advice from Your Rich BFF, Shonda Rhimes, and more!
Mentioned in the episode:
Vivian Tu (Your Rich BFF): https://www.yourrichbff.com/
Harvard Business School Online YouTube âHow to Upskill in 2024 to Advance Your Careerâ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WeAyYWkfwU&t=1627s
How Gen Z Is Becoming the Toolbelt Generation: https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/gen-z-trades-jobs-plumbing-welding-a76b5e43
Google Cloud â Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence: https://cloud.google.com/learn/training/machinelearning-ai
SkillPop: https://www.skillpop.com/
Shonda Rhimes on Her Most Important Rules of Negotiating: https://www.wsj.com/articles/shonda-rhimes-on-her-most-important-rules-of-negotiating-11647865638
Suri: https://www.trysuri.com
Perfectly Imperfect (PI): https://www.pi.fyi/
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Suzy Welch is a Professor of Management Practice at the NYU Stern School of Business, a business journalist, and best-selling author who coined the Velvet Coffin theory. This theory describes how waiting to change a job or life thatâs comfortable â but not your big dream â puts you in a metaphorical âvelvet coffinâ with a lid that slowly closes and traps you. Yikes!
Our conversation dives into:
- the difference between comfort, contentment, and complacency
- how this shows up for people who arenât career-driven
- understanding what drives you and clearly defining your dream(s)
- & so much more!
Mentioned in the episode:
Suzy Welch Instagram Reel on Velvet Coffin Theory: https://www.instagram.com/suzywelch/reel/C7t9gxducS8/
Suzy Welch LinkedIn Post âHappy at Work? Beware The Velvet Coffinâ: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/happy-work-beware-velvet-coffin-suzy-welch/
Suzy Welch YouTube Short âIs Your Comfortable Life Holding You Back?â: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIKJACJsuUk
âYou Turn: Get Unstuck, Discover Your Direction, and Design Your Dream Careerâ by Ashley Stahl: https://www.ashleystahl.com/you-turn/
Escaping the Velvet Coffin: 6 Steps to Help You Decide if Itâs Time To Leave: https://gavinadams.com/escaping-the-velvet-coffin-6-steps-to-help-you-decide-if-its-time-to-leave/
Broadway Week: https://www.nyctourism.com/broadway-week/
Sunnies Studios: https://sunniesstudios.com/
âWorking Hard, Hardly Workingâ Podcast Episode: âWatch This If Youâre Feeling Stuck (In Your Life, Career or Relationship) with Sahil Bloomâ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtRCKfNi_KU
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Weâre back! After a quick catch-up on what weâve been up to during our hiatus, we kick off our first new episode of the year with a conversation on values â our personal compass that guides us toward whatâs important to us.
We chat about:
- Some of Melissa and RenĂ©eâs core values
- Surrounding yourself with people who share or complement your values
- What happens to us when weâre living out of alignment with our values
- Questions and tools to help discover your values
- Navigating tough conversations in defense of your values
- & so much more!
Mentioned in the episode:
BrenĂ© Brown âLiving Into Your Valuesâ Exercise: https://brenebrown.com/resources/living-into-our-values/
@monicadcost on TikTok, âRomantic Relationships & Core Values: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2MUPM7s/
Piloting Ep 55: âHow Did a Career in HR Prepare Me to Become a Dating Coach? with Erica Laws, Founder of Laws of Attractionâ: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7dUmdvVXb35honJ91RobVS
VIA Institute Character Assessment: https://www.viacharacter.org/
The Meaning of Personal Values and How They Impact Your Life: https://www.betterup.com/blog/meaning-of-personal-values
Substack: https://substack.com/
Aki & Koichi Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/akiandkoichi/
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Donât call it a comeback â or do! Weâve got some exciting news about when weâll start dropping new episodes again. Hope youâre as excited as we are!
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Hi everyone! This week, instead of an episode, weâre bringing you a brief announcement about some upcoming PTO for the podcast for the holiday season. Weâll be back in January 2025!
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Many people (including us) proudly wear the label of overachiever and enjoy being the kind of people to go above and beyond â in work and in other parts of life. But thatâs not always a good thing. Sometimes, it can actually create more problems than it solves.
This week, we unravel the downsides of being an overachiever, including:
- the challenge of setting unrealistic (and unsustainable) expectations about your capacity
- knowing where to put your extra energy and effort
- the pros and cons of overperforming during your first 30/60/90 days on the job
- the difference between being a high achiever and an overachiever
- why it doesnât have to be lonely at the top, if you build the right support network
- many, many automobile metaphors
Remember, âYou canât spell career without car.â
PS - 1.80 seconds is the fastest F1 pit stop record.
Mentioned in the episode:
âSet Boundaries, Find Peaceâ by Nedra Glover Tawwab: https://www.nedratawwab.com/set-boundaries-find-peace
Clare V.: https://www.clarev.com/
Alice in Borderland: https://www.netflix.com/title/80200575
Candice Brathwaite Instagram Reel: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_qUhEBsRB3/
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We often hear that we should choose collaboration over competition, but we think thereâs a lot of positives that come from competition. A healthy relationship with competition can actually create community when done right â plus, we think everyone deserves to know what it feels like to be a winner.
We discuss:
- whether we identify as âcompetitiveâ people
- learning from negative emotions like jealousy
- why itâs sometimes harder for women to be seen chasing wins
- raising kids with a healthy relationship with competition
- group project trauma
- & much more!
Mentioned in the episode:
âThe Rural Diariesâ by Hilarie Burton Morgan: https://themischieffarm.com/the-rural-diaries/
âDinner for Vampiresâ by Bethany Joy Lenz: https://www.amazon.com/Dinner-Vampires-Life-While-Actual/dp/1668067307
âWorking Hard, Hardly Workingâ Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@Grace-Beverley
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It might be a taboo topic for some, but this week weâre talking about money. Specifically, how money can hold us back or set us free when weâre trying to chase our dreams and the lives we want. We chat about how money can bring up feelings of shame or anxiety, how we can use it to motivate us, why itâs normal to go through seasons of ups and downs with your financial wellness, and why sometimes you canât put a price on happiness or peace of mind.
Also, we are not financial professionals and we donât give any money advice. So please fact check any recommendations we may share. Except to treat yourself! We stand ten toes down on that piece of advice.
Mentioned in the episode:
âNecessary Endingsâ by Dr. Henry Cloud: https://www.drcloud.com/books/necessary-endings
Brown Ambition: https://brownambitionpodcast.com/
HerMoney: https://hermoney.com/
BiggerPockets: https://www.biggerpockets.com/
Your Rich BFF: https://www.yourrichbff.com/
Tori Dunlap, Her First 100k: https://herfirst100k.com/
Mrs. Dow Jones: https://www.mrsdowjones.com/
The Budget Mom: https://www.thebudgetmom.com/
Delyanne the Money Coach: https://delyannethemoneycoach.com/
Wine to Water: https://www.wtw.org/
World Central Kitchen Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wckitchen/
Nobody Wants This: https://www.netflix.com/title/81591296
Myleik Teele Instagram Post: https://www.instagram.com/p/DAgZpWgOovv/
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Thereâs no shortage of seriousness in our lives, especially when youâre adulting and dealing with things like finances, work, and all of our many responsibilities â but being silly and making moments for play is important. We donât think we should lose or forget that, no matter what age.
So this week, weâre talking about reconnecting with our younger, playful selves, including:
- what play means to us, and how it changes over time
- the difference between venting and being a chronic complainer
- the importance of being a beginner, getting outside, and laughter
- surrounding yourself with the right people, including kids and animals
- & so much more!
Mentioned in the episode:
Moo Deng Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/khamoo.andthegang
Outdoor Chef Life: https://www.youtube.com/c/OutdoorChefLife
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Weâre often taught in school to aspire to work in Corporate America if we want to achieve professional and financial success. But should we still put a corporate career on a pedestal in 2024 as the only (or most guaranteed path) to getting what we want out of our work lives? Do we all need to experience a corporate job at least once in our working lives?
Our hosts argue opposite sides of the coin â for and against needing a corporate girl era. In this episode, we get into the pros and cons of corporate jobs, why we should be encouraged to celebrate alternate paths to success, how to get the best benefits, and more!
Mentioned in the episode:
âEverybodyâs Free (To Wear Sunscreen)â by Baz Luhrmann: https://genius.com/Baz-luhrmann-everybodys-free-to-wear-sunscreen-lyrics
Welcome to a New Era of Work: The Portfolio Career: https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-portfolio-career-pros-cons-income-streams-side-hustles-2024-9
Apotheke: https://apothekeco.com
John Oliverâs Emmy Speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC8Xf1lOEsc
Bloom and Build Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bloom_and_build_/
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The New York Times bestseller, âBurnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle,â is for women (or anyone) who has felt overwhelmed and exhausted by everything they have to do, yet still worried they werenât doing enough. The book explains why women experience burnout differently than menâand provides a roadmap to minimizing stress, managing emotions, and living more joyfully.
For this book club episode, we dive into our own experiences with burnout and research from the book, including:
- the definition of burnout
- dealing with stress vs. dealing with stressors
- prioritizing physical activity, a good cry, affection, and positive social interactions
- the importance of finding meaning and âsomething largerâ in life
- why we should spend 42% of our day resting
- knowing when to exploit your current situation or explore new options
- navigating compassion fatigue
- why healing sometimes hurts
- & so much more!
As the Nagoski sisters remind us, âWellness is not a state of being but a state of action.â We think this book has many good practices and actions to take to prevent and manage burnout.
Mentioned in the episode:
âBurnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycleâ by Emily Nagoski and Amelia Nagoski: https://www.burnoutbook.net/
The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: https://www.hulu.com/series/the-secret-lives-of-mormon-wives-58cd73be-408d-4eed-8e3d-82339f3f93e2
Seatopia: https://seatopia.fish/
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Few things in life feel better than clocking out, turning on your Out of Office email responder, and knowing youâre taking time off work. Whether itâs a luxurious vacation or laidback staycation, taking time off is good for your health and your company, but many of us (especially Americans) are reluctant to take those days off â even when theyâre paid!
This week, we get into:
- the reasons weâre afraid to take time off from work
- why itâs important for your well-being (and productivity)
- the pros and cons of unlimited time off policies
- how to reduce anxiety around taking days off
- building in time off as a solopreneur
- & so much more!
Mentioned in the episode:
Americans Take the Fewest Vacation Days In the World: https://qz.com/america-vacation-days-pto-europe-japan-pto-1851552822
Arpitha Kowtal: https://www.instagram.com/storiesbytwoplusone
Contagious Confidence Podcast: Confidence in Your 30s with Melissa Vega-Magbitang, Podcast Host & Brand and Social Media Strategist: https://open.spotify.com/episode/340NJ4sK40l31EI5F0GcoJ
Franchesca Ramsey âDonât Knit a Sweaterâ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@franchesca_leigh/video/7389333394062249262
Yogi Tea: https://www.yogi-life.com/
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