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Jody Quonâs desk is immaculate. Thereâs a lot there, but she knows exactly where everything is. Itâs like an image out of Things Organized Neatly.
She rarely swears. Or loses her temper. In fact sheâs one of the most temperate people in the office. Maybe the most. Sheâs often been referred to as a ârock.â
She remembers every shoot and how much it cost to produce. She knows who needs work and who she can ask for favors.
Sheâs got the magazine schedule memorized and expects you to as well. Sheâs probably got your schedule memorized, too.
Sheâs usually one of the first in the office and last to leave. In fact, on the day she was scheduled to give birth to her first child, she came to work and put in a full day. When her water broke at around 6pm, she called her husband to say, âItâs time.â
I donât know if any of this is true. Except the baby thing. That is true. Kathy Ryan told me so.
I had a teacher in high school, Ms. Trice. She was tough. I didnât much like her. She would often call me out for this or that. Forty years later, sheâs the only one I remember, and I remember her very fondly. In my career, Iâve often thought that the best managing editors, production directors, and photography directors were just like Ms. Trice. These positions, more than any others, are what make magazines work. Theyâre hard on you because they expect you to be as professional as you can be. They make you better. (I see you, Claire, Jenn, Nate, Carol, and Sally.)
I suspect that a slew of Jody Quonâs coworkers and collaborators feel that same way about her. Actually, I donât suspect. I know. Iâve heard it from all corners of the magazine business. I heard it again yesterday from her mentor and good friend, Kathy Ryan.
âShe just has that work ethic,â Ryan says. âItâs just incredible when you think about it. The ambition of some of the things that theyâve done. And that has been happening right from the beginning. Ambition in the best sense. Thinking big. And sheâs cool, always cool under pressure. We had a grand time working together. I still miss her.â
Jody Quon is one of those people who makes everybody around her better. Thatâs what I believe. And after this conversation, you probably will, too.
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CHIC, BUT MAKE IT NICE
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Itâs a clichĂ© because itâs true: in the fashion world, youâve got your show ponies and youâve got your workhorses. We mean it as a compliment when we say that Samira Nasr truly earned her place at the helm of the 156-year-old institution, Harperâs Bazaar. Donât get us wrong; Samira is seriously glamorousâsheâs the kind of woman who phrases like âeffortless chicâ were invented to describe. But she did not cruise to her current perch on connections and camera-readiness alone. Rather, she worked her way up, attending J-school at NYU, then making her way through the fashion closets of Vogue, Mirabella, Vanity Fair, InStyle, and Elleâwhere we met in the trenches, and got to see firsthand how she mixes old-school, roll-up-your-sleeves work ethic and her own fresh vision.
When Samira got the big job at Bazaar in 2020, she became the titleâs first-ever Black editor-in-chief. The Bazaar she has rebuilt is as close as a mainstream fashion magazine gets to a glossy art mag, but it is far from chilly. As she has long put it, âI just want to bring more people with me to the party.â Which, when you think about it, is a brilliant mantra for a rapidly shifting era in media and culture. How to keep a legacy fashion magazine going circa 2025? Drop the velvet rope.
The timing for this mantra could not have been better. After her first year in the role, Bazaar took home its first-ever National Magazine Award for General Excellence.
In our interview, Samira talked about remaking one of fashionâs most legendary magazines â plus, jeans, budgets, and even the odd parenting tip. We had fun, and we hope you
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THE SHOP AROUND THE CORNER
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âI was a publication designer for 20 years, making book covers at Knopf with Sonny Mehta, Carol Carson, and Chip Kidd. Later, in the early aughts, I made stories and booksâand other thingsâat Martha Stewart Living. Then I took a brief adventure to graduate schoolâto learn a new trade. And finally I moved to The New York Times, where I helped create several of its legendary digital products, like NYT Cooking.
In December 2020, I bought a building on the Delaware Riverâand opened the Frenchtown Bookshop.
My name is Barbara deWilde ⊠and this is The Next Page.â
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A PRETTY COMPLICATED ORGANISM
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Like many of you, I was stunned by what happened on November 5th. Itâs gonna take me some time to reckon with what this all says about the values of a large portion of this country. As part of that reckoningâand for some much-needed reliefâIâve opted to spend less time with media in general for a bit.
But on âthe morning after,â I couldnât ignore an email I got from todayâs guest, New York magazine editor-in-chief David Haskell. [You can find it on our website].
What struck me most about his noteâwhich was sent to the magazineâs million-and-a-half subscribersâwas what it didnât say.
There were no recriminations. Nothing about how Kamala Harris had failed to âread the room.â Not a word about Joe Bidenâs unwillingness to step aside when he should have. No calls to âresist.â In fact, the hometown president-electâs name went unspoken (as it is here).
What Haskell did say that left a mark on me was this:
âI consider our jobs as magazine journalists a privilege at times like this.â
I was an editor at Clay Felkerâs New York magazine, the editor-in-chief of Boston magazine, and I led the creative team at Inc. magazine. And it was there, at Inc. that I had a similar experience. It was 9/11.
I wrote my monthly column in the haze that immediately followed the attacks, though it wouldnât appear in print until the December issue. It was titled, âThink Small. No Smaller.â In it, I urged our community of company builders to focus their attention on the things we can control. This is how it ended:
What we can say for certain is that the arena over which any of us has control has, for now, grown smaller. In these smaller arenas, the challenge is to build, or rebuild, in ourselves and our organizations the quiet confidence that we still have the ability to get the right things done.
For all the attention that gets paid to EICs, most of the work you do is done through the members of your team: writers, and editors, and designers, and so many others.
My friend, Dan Okrent, the former Life magazine editor and Print Is Dead guest, once said, âMagazines bring us together into real communities.â
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WHAT MAKES STEVE BRODNER HAPPY
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When your boss tells you to track down an amusing Steve Brodner factoid to open the podcast with, and one of the first things you find is a, uh, a âdick army,â welp, thatâs what youâre going to go with.
Lest you judge me, I can explain. Brodnerâs drawing of this army was inspired by a guy who was actually named Dick Armey (A-R-M-E-Y)! He was Newt Gingrichâs wingman back in the nineties. I thought to myself, the people need to know this.
However, with the election now a few days behind us, maybe the time for talking about men and their junk is over?
What you really want to learn about is this Society of Illustrators hall of famerâs career. Brodnerâs work, which has been called âunflinching, driven by a strong moral compass, and imbued with a powerful sense of compassion,â has been featured in Rolling Stone, The Washington Post Magazine, Esquire, The New Yorker, and many others.
In this episode, Brodner talks about how the death of print has led to the current misinformation crisis. As it gets harder and harder to tell whatâs true, the future becomes increasingly uncertain. Even his most biting drawings are rooted in truth.
âSatire doesn't work if you are irresponsibly unreasonably inventive. If satire doesn't have truth in it, it's not funny.â
A production note: This episode was recorded exactly one week before the election. As our conversation began, we took turns telling stories about memorable election night parties, and our plans for November 5th. Hereâs Steve, talking about his plansâŠ
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SHEâS OUR TYPE
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Everybody knows that in May 2023, a jury found Donald Trump liable for defaming and abusing E. Jean Carroll, and awarded her $5 million. And everybody also knows that in January 2024, another jury found Trump liable for defamation against her to the tune of $83.3 million. P.S., with interest, his payout will now total over $100 million.
But not everybody remembersâbecause we are guppies, and because, ahem, Print is Dead, yâallâthat E. Jean is a goddamn swashbucking magazine-world legend: a writer of such style, wit, and sheer ballsy joie de vivre that she carved out a name for herself in the boys club of New Journalism, writing juicy and iconic stories in the â70s and â80s for Outside, Esquire, Playboy, and moreâand then finally leapt over to womenâs magazines, where she held down the role of advice columnist at Elle for, wait for it, 27 years. Elle is where we intersected with E.Jean and where we first saw up close her boundless enthusiasm and generosity for womankind.
Weâll also never forget sitting at one of the magazineâs annual fancypants dinners honoring Women in Hollywoodâthese are real star-studded affairs, folksâwhen Jennifer Aniston stood up to receive her award and started her speech with a shoutout to her beloved "Auntie E.,â whose advice she and millions of other American women had devoured, and lived by, for decades.
Hereâs the truth: The woman that most of the world came to know through the most harrowing circumstances imaginable really is and has always been that fearless, that unsinkable. Itâs not a personaâitâs the genuine article. And when you hear her stories about how hard she slogged away for decades to finally get her big break in publishing, listeners, you will have a whole new respect for her.
As E. Jean tells us herself in this interview, she does very, very little press. So we couldnât be more honored that our friend and idol and The Spreadâs most enthusiastic hype woman sat down after hours with us for this interview. We just hope we did her justice!
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SOUL SURVIVOR
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Just about every magazine Richard Baker worked for has died. Even one called Life.
Also dead: The Washington Post Magazine, Vibe, Premiere, and Parade. Another, Saveur, also died, but has recently been resurrected. And Us Magazine? A mere shadow of its former self.
Sadly, Bakerâs career narrative is not that uncommon. (Thatâs why youâre listening to a podcast called Print Is Dead).
But Richard Baker is a survivor. Heâs survived immigrating from Jamaica as a kid. Heâs survived the sudden and premature loss of three influential and beloved mentors. And he survived a near-fatal medical emergency in the New York subway.
Yet, in the face of all that carnage, Richard Baker just keeps going. To this day, heâs living the magazine dreamââclassic editionââas a designer at a sturdy newsstand publication (Inc. magazine), in a brick-and-mortar office (7 World Trade Center), working with real people, and making something beautiful with ink and paper.
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SMILING THROUGH THE APOCALYPSE
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In the past few weeks, Will Welch has taken a bit of flack for letting BeyoncĂ© promote her new whiskey label on the cover of GQâs October issue, with an interview that one X user described as âan intimate email exchange between GQ and several layers of Beyonceâs comms team.â
Whether that kind of thing rankles you or notâand yes, we asked him about itâin the five years since Welch took over, GQ seems to be doing as well or better than everybody else in the industry. Why? Ask around. Heâs got a direct line to celebrities, who consider him a personal friend. Heâs got real credibility with The Fashion People. And because of both of these things, advertisers love him.
Perhaps most importantly, his boss Anna Wintour loves him.
The Atlanta-born Welch started his career at the alternative music and culture mag the Fader in the early aughts, and jumped to GQ in 2007. For a decade under EIC Jim Nelson, he operated as the magazineâs fashion-and-culture svengali, eventually becoming the creative director of the magazine and the editor of the brandâs fashion spinoff, GQ Style.
In 2019, Wintour tapped him for the big job: Editor-in-Chief of GQâa title that in 2020 was recast in the current CondĂ© Nast survival-mode as Global Editorial Director of GQ, overseeing 19 editions around the world.
After speaking with Welch only a few hours after the Beyonce cover dropped, we get what all the fuss is about. He is a great sport with good hair and just enough of a Southern accent who is confident-yet-never-cocky about his mission at GQ.
Let other people bemoan the âdeath of print.â Will Welch is having a blast at the Last Supper.
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WHEN âHOUSEâ IS NOT A HOME
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Dominique Browning jokes that after the interview for this episode, she might end up having PTSD. After more than 30 years writing and editing at some of the top magazines in the world, Browning has blocked a lot of it out.
And after listening today, youâll understand why.
At Esquire, where she worked early in her career, Browning says she cried nearly every day. There were men yelling and people quitting. Apartment keys being dropped off with mistresses. A flash, even, of a loaded gun in a desk drawer.
At House & Garden, where she ended her magazine career in 2007 after 13 years as the editor-in-chief, the chaos was less Mad Men and more Devil Wears Prada. It was glitzy Manhattan lunches mixed with fierce competition and co-workers who complained that her wardrobe wasnât âdesignerâ enough. The day she took the job, she says she felt like she had walked into Grimmâs Fairy Tales. (Her friends had warned her that it was going to be a snake pit.)
When the magazine unexpectedly folded on a Monday, she and her staff were told they had until Friday to clear out their offices. âWithout warning,â she says, âour world collapsed.â
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VIVE LA CREATIVITE!
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There are many reasons for you to hate Fabien Baron (especially if youâre the jealous type).
Here are 7 of them:
âą Heâs French, which means, among other things, his accent is way sexier than yours.
âą Heâs spent an inordinate amount of time in the company of supermodels like Naomi Campbell, Christy Turlington, and Kate Moss.
âą He gets all of his Calvin Klein undies for free.
âą Ditto any swag from his other clients: Dior, Louis Vuitton, Burberry, or Armani.
âą When he tired of just designing magazines, magazines went and made him their editor-in-chief.
âą He was intimately involved in the making of Madonnaâs notorious book, Sex. How intimately? We were afraid to ask.
âą Also? Vanity Fair called him âThe Most Sought-After Creative Director in the World.â
With our pity party concluded, we admit âhateâ was probably the wrong word, because after spending time talking to him, itâs easy to see why Baron has been able to live the kind of life many magazine creatives dream ofâand why heâs been so incredibly successful.
His enthusiasm is contagious. Itâs actually his super power. And itâs a lesson for all of us. When you get next-level excited, as Baron does when he can see the possibilities in a project, his passion infects everybody in the room.
And then, when you learn that Baron believes heâs doing what he was put on this earth to do, and claims that he would do it all for free. Youâve kind of got to believe him.
I never, ever worried about money. I never took a job because of the money. Because I think integrity is very important. I think, like believing that you have a path and that youâre going to follow that path and youâre going to stay on that path and that youâre going to stick to that. And thatâs what Iâm trying to do.
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THE FIFTH
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You cannot overstate how much Tom Bodkin has changed the Times. In fact, you can say that there was the Times before Tom and the Times after Tom.
The Times before Tom threw as many words as possible at the page, with little regard for the reader. The Times before Tom thought tossing a couple of headshots on the page was all the visual journalism we needed. The Times before Tom held to a hierarchy where designers were the other, somehow not quite journalists.
Then there is The New York Times after Tom.
Tom taught us that design was not only integral to journalism, it was in fact integral to storytelling at its height. The front page that listed the COVID dead was more powerful than any one story could ever be.
Roy Peter Clark, the writing guru at the Poynter Institute, captured it best:
âNothing much on that front page looked like news as we understand it, that is, the transmission of information,â he wrote. âInstead it felt like a graphic representation of the tolling of bells. A litany of the dead.â
Personally, Tom taught me something that made it easier to lead the newsroom in the digital age: Design demands a level of open-mindedness to the possibilities of different types of storytelling. It also rewards collaboration, since the most perfect stories are told by different disciplines working together to convey the best version of the truth every day.
Those, in fact, are the qualities that mark the modern, digital New York Times. Qualities that honestly have made it the most successful news report of the day.
Hard to imagine weâcertainly not Iâwould have been prepared for this new world without Tomâs leadership.
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DUTCH MASTER
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Dutch-born, California-raised designer Hans Teensma began his magazine career working alongside editor Terry McDonell at Outside magazine, which Rolling Stone founder Jann Wenner launched in San Francisco in 1977.
When Wenner sold Outside two years later, Teensma and McDonell headed to Denver to launch a new regional, Rocky Mountain Magazine, which would earn them the first of several ASME National Magazine Awards. On the move again, Teensmaâs next stop would be New England Monthly, another launch with another notable editor, Dan Okrent. The magazine was a huge hit, financially and critically, and won back-to-back ASME awards in 1986 and â87.
Ready for a new challenge â and ready to call New England home â Teensma launched his own studio, Impress, in the tiny village of Williamsburg, Massachusetts. The studio has produced a wide range of projects, including startups and redesigns, as well as pursuing Teensmaâs passion for designing books.
Since 1991, Teensma has been incredibly busy: He was part of a team that built a media empire for Disney, launching and producing Family Fun, Family PC, Wondertime, and Disney Magazine. Heâs designed dozens of books and redesigned almost as many magazines. And he continues to lead the creative vision of the critically-acclaimed nature journal, Orion.
You might not know Teensma by name, but his network of deep friendships runs the gamut of media business royalty. Why? Because everybody loves Hans.
When they designed the ideal temperament for survival in the magazine business, they might as well have used his DNA. Heâs survived a nearly 50-year career thanks to his wicked sense of humor, his deep well of decency, and above all, his unlimited reserves of grace.
Youâre gonna love this guy.
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THE ART DIRECTORâS ART DIRECTOR
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Janet Froelich is one of the most influential and groundbreaking creative directors of all time. For over two decades, she lead the creative teams at The New York Times Magazine and its sister publication, T: The New York Times Style Magazine. In this episode, Froelich recalls her own personal 9/11 story, and what is was like to be in the newsroom on that awful day, as well as how she helped create the magazine cover that inspired and informed the memorial to the Twin Towers and those who lost their lives there. She talks about other Times magazine covers that left a mark, about her early years as an artist living in SoHo and hanging out at Maxâs Kansas City, and why you should never be afraid to hire people better than you.Print Is Dead (Long Live Print!) is a production of Magazeum LLC ©2021â2025
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A HANDY MAN
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Photographers are gearheads. Theyâre always throwing around brand names, model numbers, product specs.
So when legendary photographer Eddie Adams asked todayâs guest, Dan Winters, if he knew how to handle a JD-450, it was a no-brainer. He had grown up with a JD-350. So yeah, the 450 would be no problem.
But hereâs the funny thing: the JD-450 is not made by Nikon. Or Canon. Or Fuji. Or Leica. Not even his beloved Hasselblad. Nope. The JD-450 isnât made in Tokyo, Wetzlar, or Gothenburg.
The John Deere 450 bulldozer is made in Dubuque, Iowa, USA.
And what Eddie Adams urgently needed right at that moment, was someone to backfill, level, and compact a trench at his farm, which, coincidentally, was prepping to host the first-ever Eddie Adams Workshop, the world-renowned photojournalism seminar, at his farm in Sullivan County, New York, near the site of the 1969 Woodstock music festival.
Get to know Dan Winters a little bit, and none of this will come as a surprise to you. It also wonât surprise you that the bulldozer incident isnât even the funniest part of the story of how Winters got to New York City in 1988 to launch what has become one of the most distinguished careers in the history of editorial photography. A career which began with his first job at the News-Record, a 35,000-circulation newspaper in Thousand Oaks, California.
The secretâspoiler alertâto his remarkable career, Winters will say, âis based in a belief that Iâm being very thorough with my pursuits and being very realistic. Iâm not lying to myself about the effort Iâm putting into it. Because this is not a casual pursuit at all. This is 100 percent commitment.â
Well, that, and out-of-this-world talent and vision.
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THE JAZZ OF THE NEWSROOM
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In this episode, we talk to George Gendron, the long-time editor [Inc. Magazine] and educator who created one of the first liberal arts-based entrepreneurship programs in America. We talk about his first job working under legendary editor Clay Felker in the early days of New York magazine, how a third-grade book report set him up for a life in publishing, the near-fatal car accident that changed everything, why we should look to TV for the future of magazines, and how to build an economically-sustainable life around doing the work that you love.
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THE ARTIST AS ENTREPRENEUR
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Michele Outland has spent her career at some really beautiful magazines. Beautiful ... because she made them that way. Her resume includes stops at Martha Stewartâs Everyday Food, Domino, Nylon, and Bon AppĂ©tit, as well as the magazine she created and launched with her good friend, Fiorella Valdesolo: Gather Journal.
Gather, which only published 13 issues, made a powerful impact on the magazine business. In its five-year run, it won a James Beard Award for Visual Storytelling, an Art Directorâs Club Award, and 20 medals from the Society of Publication Designers, including being named âBrand of the Yearâ in 2015.
Under her leadership, Bon Appétit won the ASME National Magazine Award for Design along with a slew of SPD awards.
We talked to Michele about: the power of internships, her Korean motherâs influence on the way she thinks about food, about how to start a magazine in a post-print world â and when we can expect the return of Gather Journal, the strong female role models who shaped her career, and, of course, PIZZA.
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THE GREATEST STARTUP IN THE HISTORY OF MAGAZINE STARTUPS
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Weâve always had a thing for magazine launches. Theyâre filled with drama and melodrama, people behaving with passion and conviction, and people ... misbehaving. Anything to get that first issue onto the stands and into the hands of readers.
Some new ventures seem to sneak in the back door. Who saw Wired or Fast Company coming?
Others are to the manner born, and from the most elite print parents. But, even with that pedigree they never gain traction, never display the scrappiness and experimentation that weâve come to expect from anything new. (You know who you are).
But then, one day, along comes The Greatest Startup in the History of Magazine Startups. A magazine that dares to mercilessly, and humorously, vilify high society. The one that big time journalists pretend to ignore but were first to the newsstand each month to grab their copy. The one that created packaging conceits: Separated at Birth, Private Lives of Public Enemies, Blurb-o-mat, and Naked City. Plus, the adorable nicknames â âShort-fingered vulgarianâ â that persist to this day.
Thatâs right, weâre talking about Spy.
And in this episode weâll meet Kurt Andersen who, along with Graydon Carter and Tom Philips, founded what became an instantaneous cultural phenomenon: SPY magazine. The axis of the publishing world tilted when it hit the stands.
âSpy was the most influential magazine of the 1980s,â the author Dave Eggers wrote. âIt definitely changed the whole tone of magazine journalism. It was cruel, brilliant, beautifully-written and perfectly-designed â and feared by all.â
There had never been anything like Spy before.
Nothing since has come close.
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WHATâS BLACK AND WHITE AND RED ALL OVER?
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Roger Black is a pioneer. His art direction of iconic print brands and high-profile redesigns, his early embrace of digital publishing technology, and his typographic innovations are hallmarks of a 50-year, trailblazing career.
Heâs refined his design mastery at publications ranging from Rolling Stone to Esquire to Newsweek to The New York Times Magazine. Heâs written books and started companies. Heâs worked for clients on every continent.
And now, at 73, Blackâs focus has shifted to type. More specifically Type Network, a font platform launched in 2016, where he serves as the companyâs chairman.
Blackâs design legacy not only includes memorable makeovers but also the fundamental need for an underlying reason and purpose behind them, often sophisticated, always functional. Throw in his signature color paletteâred, white, and of course, blackâand youâre in business.
All that said, Black preaches that the true DNA of a successful brand identity is its typography.
We talked to Black about why he left home in the third grade, how an early blunder almost cost him his publishing career, what it felt like to follow in his motherâs footsteps at The New York Times, what he thinks are the five best-executed magazines of all time, and about why heâs always on the moveâand where heâs headed next.
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THE SLOWER THE BETTER
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Given that this is the final show of the season, it is perhaps a bit poetic that our guest today is Rob Orchard from Delayed Gratification. Not that we would plan an episode around a bad pun. Not us.
Delayed Gratification is media created to comment on, and offer a counterpoint to, the media. Rob Orchard and his team met each other, for the most part, in Dubai in the early aughts, working on Time Out Dubai. In that magical place on the Gulf they foundâno surpriseâlots of money and conditions amenable to journalism of all sorts.
Then Orchard returned to London ⊠and he didnât like what he found. He and his friends and colleagues were dismayed by the realities of the digital world, the relentless emphasis on quantity over quality, the losing battle between what they wanted to do and the evangelists of SEO and purveyors of click bait, and so they created Delayed Gratification.
Inspired by the Slow Journalism movement taking root around the world, Delayed Gratification is a quarterly publication that values contemplation and time, a curation of the important events of the past three months, along with long-form essays and colorful infographics. The result is a reminder that important information, properly curated or edited, continues to be enlightening, informative, entertainingâand extremely important.
Delayed Gratification is an indie in the truest sense of the word. And probably the only media that suffers existential quandaries around their own social media. Because Rob Orchard and his team are passionate about getting things right. Not getting there first.
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RICHARD TURLEY CANâT STOP, WONâT STOP
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Richard Turley is changing the idea of the magazine. Richard Turley has no idea what a magazine is in the year 2024. And in this sense, he is not so different from you or I.
Richard Turleyâs magazinesâand there are manyâare confrontations, loaded with text, or not, sometimes, but if you ask him, heâs not sure what heâs doing. He claims to be boring. He once said, âIâm a boring, traditional, formalist thinkerâ and he probably is, but you have to really know your stuff to get where heâs coming from.
Where Richard Turley is coming from is England, yes. He got his start at The Guardian. He was then lured to New York to help revamp Bloomberg Businessweek and his work there made art directors everywhere ugly jealous.
The secret to Richard Turleyâs work is the freedom it seems to exhibit. From form. From rules. From common sense. Sometimes even from good taste. But only if youâre stuck up. Which Richard Turley is most definitely not.
Richard Turley once claimed his design philosophy was âto do something unlikable, repellent, horrible, and ugly.â Richard Turley is punk in a way, but mainstream. Heâs underground-adjacent. Which just makes him even more punk.
Richard Turley has worked at MTV and ad agencies. Richard Turley designed the logo for one of the worldâs largest sports. Richard Turley now runs his own creative agency. And is the art director of Interview magazine. And co-created Civilization. And Nuts International. And Offal. And has designed a literary magazine, Heavy Traffic. And has just redesigned one of the most iconic magazines in existence. Which one? Youâll have to listen to the podcast.
But just remember this: Richard Turley is a busy man.
I, however, am not Richard Turley. Far from it.
Nobody is.
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