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With the on-again, off-again tariffs and total economic sh*tstorm, one wonders why anyone ever thought Donald Trump had any economic sense. That’s because Mark Burnett transformed the six-time bankruptcy declaring tabloid star into a successful businessman character on the “reality” show The Apprentice. On today’s episode of Strange Country, cohosts Beth and Kelly talk about the ultimate deception that led over 70 million Americans to give the keys to a chaos agent for a second time.
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Works Cited
Buettner, Russ, and Susanne Craig. Lucky Loser: How Donald Trump Squandered His Father's Fortune and Created the Illusion of Success. Vintage Publishing, 2024. Accessed 22 March 2025.
Bushard, Brian. “Kwame Jackson Claims Trump Not ‘Comfortable Around Black People’: Apprentice Runner-Up Allegedly Called N-Word.” Forbes, 1 June 2024, https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2024/06/01/kwame-jackson-claims-trump-not-comfortable-around-black-people-apprentice-runner-up-allegedly-called-n-word/.
Keefe, Patrick Radden. “How Mark Burnett Resurrected Donald Trump as an Icon of American Success.” The New Yorker, 27 December 2018, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/01/07/how-mark-burnett-resurrected-donald-trump-as-an-icon-of-american-success.
Keveney, Bill. “Arnold Schwarzenegger leaves 'Apprentice,' Trump says he was fired.” USA Today, 3 March 2017, https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2017/03/03/arnold-quits-apprentice-before-he-can-fired/98700892/.
Nussbaum, Emily. Cue the Sun! The Invention of Reality TV. Random House Publishing Group, 2024.
Reiss, Adam, et al. “N.Y. attorney general refuses to drop $486 million judgment against Trump.” NBC News, 10 December 2024, https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/ny-attorney-general-refuses-drop-486-million-judgment-trump-rcna183603.
Setoodeh, Ramin. Apprentice in Wonderland: How Donald Trump and Mark Burnett Took America Through the Looking Glass. HarperCollins Publishers, 2024.
Smith, Greg B. “Trump Org Presses Eric Adams for Wollman Rink Rights After City Hall Spurned $120M Nonprofit Gift.” The City, 15 March 2025, https://www.thecity.nyc/2025/03/15/trump-wollman-rink-eric-adams-central-park/.
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Hey Readers! Alice Duer Miller was a women of her time and ours! Who was she? Why don’t you know? Because she is a woman, and that’s a dangerous word these days.
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Cite Your Sources Dude
“Alice Duer Miller.” Poetry Foundation, https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/alice-duer-miller#tab-related.
Dresner, Zita. “Heterodite Humor: Alice Duer Miller and Florence Guy Seabury.” Journal of American Culture, 07 June 2004, https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1542-734X.1987.1003_33.x. Accessed 27 03 2025.
Miller, Alice D. Are Women People. ebook access on Project Gutenburg. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/11689/11689-h/11689-h.htm, Project Gutenburg, https://www.gutenberg.org/files/11689/11689-h/11689-h.htm.
The Editors of Encyclopedia Britannica. "Alice Duer Miller". Encyclopedia Britannica, 18 Aug. 2024, https://www.britannica.com/biography/Alice-Duer-Miller. Accessed 26 March 2025
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This is a true story. Of two strange podcasters picked to podcast in an attic about a strange country. Find out what happens when Beth and Kelly stop being polite and start getting real about The Real World, the reality show that created the blueprint for all other reality shows.
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Cite your sources:
Arthur, Kate. “Looking Back At "The Real World: San Francisco," The Show That Changed The World.” Buzzfeed, 7 January 2014, https://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/real-world-san-francisco-pedro-zamora-rachel-campos. Chaney, Jen. “Every White Person Should Watch This Week’s The Real World Homecoming.” Vulture, 19 March 2021, https://www.vulture.com/2021/03/the-real-world-homecoming-rebecca-kevin-racism-fight-episode.html.Cohen, Randy. "Real World. Not." The New York Times Book Review, 12 July 1998. Gale OneFile: News, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A150174908/STND?u=nysl_sc_ahs&sid=bookmark-STND&xid=0add2ee3. Accessed 22 Feb. 2025.
Gatollari, Mustafa. “The Real World Cast Members Who Have Died.” Distractify, 24 June 2024, https://www.distractify.com/p/real-world-members-who-have-died. Accessed 21 February 2025. Heldman, Breanne L. “Eric Nies Reflects on Life After The Real World: 'My Life Is Filled with Angels and Demons.'” People.com, 24 February 2021, https://people.com/tv/eric-nies-life-after-the-real-world/. Accessed 22 February 2025. Nussbaum, Emily. Cue the Sun! The Invention of Reality TV. Random House Publishing Group, 2024.O'Connor, John J. "Review/Television; 'The Real World,' According to MTV." New York Times, 9 July 1992. Gale OneFile: News, link.gale.com/apps/doc/A174928194/STND?u=nysl_sc_ahs&sid=bookmark-STND&xid=0a1bbe5a. Accessed 20 Feb. 2025.
Roberts, Michael. “The Unreal World | Music | Denver.” Denver Westword, 14 March 1996, https://www.westword.com/music/the-unreal-world-5056129. Accessed 17 February 2025.Shales, Tom. “MTV’s ‘The Real World’ needs to, like, get real.” San Antonio Express, One Star ed., 5 June 1992, p. 26. NewsBank: America's Historical Newspapers, https://infoweb.newsbank.com/apps/news/openurl?ctx_ver=z39.88-2004&rft_id=info%3Asid/infoweb.newsbank.com&svc_dat=EANX-K12&req_dat=0FA0729FAB9D3500&rft_val_format=info%3Aofi/fmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Actx&rft_dat=document_id%3Aimage%252Fv2%253A10EEA20F1A545758%2540EANX-K12-16DE61B4872929B2%25402448779-16DE257513777099%254025-16DE257513777099%2540. Accessed 20 Feb. 2025.
Wallace-Wells, Benjamin (November 18, 2003). "Reality Killed the Video Star". The Washington Monthly. Archived from the original on March 24, 2006.
Wickman, Kase. “Sean Duffy From The Real World Is Trump's Latest Cabinet Pick. Yep.” Vanity Fair, 19 November 2024, https://www.vanityfair.com/style/story/sean-duffy-from-the-real-world-is-trumps-latest-cabinet-pick?srsltid=AfmBOopQpcPd7CaQppFbaXcvMwJ-FZX_J2BL142NZWfOdNXIErmPpest. -
Smile, you’re listening to a podcast about Candid Camera. Created by Allen Funt, Candid Camera was America’s first prank reality show. A case could be made that this show is responsible for the reality television trend that led to a con man being packaged as a “successful businessman” and is now pranking America as prez. Strange Country cohosts Beth and Kelly talk about this pioneering show whilst smiling through their tears.
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Cite your sources: “Candid Camera | Television Academy Interviews.” Television Academy Interviews |, 1997, https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/shows/candid-camera. Accessed 26 January 2025. Engle, Harrison. “Hidden Cameras and Human Behavior—An Interview with Allen Funt.” ida, 1 October 2000, Hidden Cameras and Human Behavior—An Interview with Allen Funt. Flagler, J.M. “Student of the Spontaneous.” The New Yorker, 2 December 1960, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1960/12/10/student-of-the-spontaneous. Funt, Allen, and Philip Reed. Candidly, Allen Funt: A Million Smiles Later. Barricade Books, 1994. Miller, Robert Nagler. “Q&A: The keeper of ‘Candid Camera’s’ zany TV legacy.” The Jewish News of Northern California, 12 July 2018, https://jweekly.com/2018/07/12/qa-the-keeper-of-candid-cameras-zany-tv-legacy/. Accessed 6 February 2025. Nussbaum, Emily. Cue the Sun! The Invention of Reality TV. Random House Publishing Group, 2024. Perry, Gina. “Stanley Milgram and Candid Camera.” Gina Perry, 10 April 2012, https://www.gina-perry.com/2012/04/10/candid-camera/. Accessed 6 February 2025. Saxon, Wolfgang. “Allen Funt, Creator of 'Candid Camera,' Is Dead at 84.” The New York Times, 7 September 1999, https://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/07/arts/allen-funt-creator-of-candid-camera-is-dead-at-84.html. Accessed 25 January 2025. Stewart, Travis. “How “Candid Camera” May Have Destroyed America.” Travelanche, 16 September 2020, https://travsd.wordpress.com/2020/09/16/how-candid-camera-may-have-destroyed-america/. -
Well Dash Hounds, if you are still out there listening and tuning in, we are thankful. Listening is an act of love. Love brings joy, and joy is a form of resistance. So sit back this week and learn how Kelly and Beth are getting through the hard times naturally. Of course with everything that seems good, be cautious. Nature is such a healer until it isn’t. And it’s just you and your houseplant whose picking up on your negative vibes and blaming you for everything. Confused? So are we.
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Cite your sources, dude
Eells, Josh. “He Talked to Plants and They Talked Back.” New York Times, 21 December 2017, https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/news/the-lives-they-lived/2013/12/21/cleve-backster/.
First, Elsa. “The Secret Life of Plants.” New York Times, 30 December 1973, https://www.nytimes.com/1973/12/30/archives/the-secret-life-of-plants-by-peter-tompkins-and-christopher-bird.html.
Fitzgerald, Sunny. “The Secret to Mindful TRavel: A Walk in the Woods.” National Geographic, vol. October, 2019, https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/forest-bathing-nature-walk-health.
McEvoy, Patrick. “Courage, Memory and Voice: A Review of Monica Gagliano's Thus Spoke the Plant.” Ecological Citizen, https://www.ecologicalcitizen.net/pdfs/v04n1-13.pdf.
Schreiber, Dan. The Theory of Everything Else: A Voyage Into the World of the Weird. HarperCollinsPublishers, 2023.
Stempel, Jonathan, and Husch Blackwell. “Apple to pay $95 million to settle Siri privacy lawsuit.” Reuters, 2 January 2025, https://www.reuters.com/legal/apple-pay-95-million-settle-siri-privacy-lawsuit-2025-01-02/. Accessed 20 January 2025.
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Since we heard America was “being made great again” or something, we decided it was time for Strange Country to return. This time, cohosts Beth and Kelly tackle the story of David Starr Jordan, noted ichthyologist and first president of Stanford University, who definitely was a eugenicst but not certain a murderer. He did cover up Jane Stanford’s murder by poison so there’s that. That’s not good, right? We don’t know because it seems laws are meaningless now. Yay, America!?!
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Cite your sources, or not, who cares nothing has meaning
Flores, Gilbert. “Did Philanthropy Kill Jane Stanford?” Lilly Family School of Philanthropy, 31 October 2022, https://blog.philanthropy.indianapolis.iu.edu/2022/10/31/did-philanthropy-kill-jane-stanford/. Accessed 18 January 2025. “A History of Stanford – Stanford University.” Stanford University, https://www.stanford.edu/about/history/. Accessed 2 January 2025. Miller, Lulu. Why Fish Don't Exist: A Story of Loss, Love, and the Hidden Order of Life. Simon & Schuster, 2020. Peacock, Chris. “Stanford will rename campus spaces named for David Starr Jordan and relocate statue depicting Louis Agassiz.” Stanford Report, 7 October 2020, https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2020/10/jordan-agassiz. White, Richard. Who Killed Jane Stanford? A Gilded-Age Tale of Murder, Deceit, Spirits and the Birth of a University. WW Norton, 2022. Wolfe, Susan. “Who Killed Jane Stanford?” STANFORD magazine, September/October 2003, https://stanfordmag.org/contents/who-killed-jane-stanford. Accessed 2 January 2025. -
It’s the spooky season, and this episode is a doozy and an oozy, as in the oozing of decomposing bodies. Ed Gein, the inspiration behind characters Norman Bates, Leatherface and Buffalo Bill, is the topic of today’s Strange Country. Cohosts Beth and Kelly have an especially important PSA before you press play: Don’t eat while listening.
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Bloom, John. “They Came. They Sawed. – Texas Monthly.” Texas Monthly, November 2004, https://www.texasmonthly.com/arts-entertainment/they-came-they-sawed/. Accessed 11 October 2024. Dimitropoulos, Stav. “Serial Killer Ed Gein Was a 'Model Patient' After Being Incarcerated for His Gruesome Crimes.” A&E, 11 January 2018, https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/serial-killer-ed-gein-was-a-model-patient-after-being-incarcerated-for-his-gruesome-crimes. Accessed 12 October 2024. Hanneman, Joe. “A Look Back at the 'Plainfield Butcher,' Grave Robber Ed Gein.” The Hanneman Archive, 4 November 2014, https://hannemanarchive.com/2014/11/04/plainfield-butcher-ed-gein/. Accessed 6 October 2024. Keller, Robert. Unhinged: The Shocking True Story of Ed Gein, the Butcher of Plainfield. CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, 2017. Accessed 6 October 2024. Piccotti, Tyler. “Ed Gein: Biography, Murderer, Grave Robber, 'Monster' Season 3.” Biography (Bio.), 17 September 2024, https://www.biography.com/crime/ed-gein. Accessed 6 October 2024. Sutton, Candace. “The mother of the most depraved serial killer of all time.” NZ Herald, 24 October 2020, https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/who-was-the-mother-of-the-most-depraved-serial-killer-of-all-time/T75XZ2O7K7AGAP5LBGPKDKHVV4/. Accessed 12 October 2024. -
Hey Dashhounds, it's our favorite month for creepy tales at Strange Country! October brings warmish temperatures at night, hot sunny days, hurricanes with power that you have never seen before, and the uncomfortable feeling of politics gone wrong--rarely landing with a woman in charge. Today Beth and Kelly bring you the story of the Night of Terror. Enjoy!
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Cite your sources, dude:
Deuel, Nathan. “Book Prize winner Stephanie Jones-Rogers on women slave owners.” Los Angeles Times, 17 April 2020, https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2020-04-17/female-slave-owners-independent-brutal-stephanie-jones-rogers. Accessed 22 July 2024.
Jones Rogers, Stephanie. They Were Her Property. https://archive.org/details/they-were-her-property-white-women-as-slave-owners-in-the-american-south-pdfdrive/page/205/mode/2up.
Kell, Gretchen. “Unmasked: Many white women were Southern slave owners, too.” Berkeley News, 25 October 2019, https://news.berkeley.edu/2019/10/25/white-women-slaveholders-q-a/. Accessed 22 July 2024.
“Madame LaLaurie | The story of Delphine LaLaurie, of New Orleans.” Ghost City Tours, https://ghostcitytours.com/new-orleans/haunted-places/lalaurie-mansion/madame-lalaurie/. Accessed 22 July 2024.
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The mid-20th century was heady times full of LSD, and a NASA flush with cash, which is how we get to today’s story about a scientist trying to get dolphins to speak English. Strange Country co-hosts Beth and Kelly talk about Dr. John C. Lilly, inventor of the sensory deprivation tank and dolphin whisperer, whose plans for dolphin communication veered off in a strange direction when one volunteer started giving Peter the dolphin a helping hand, if you catch our meaning.
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GRECO, JOANN, and Benjamin Franklin. “The Psychonaut You Never Heard Of – The Pennsylvania Gazette.” The Pennsylvania Gazette, 20 June 2017, https://thepenngazette.com/the-psychonaut-you-never-heard-of/. Accessed 12 August 2024. Greenwood, Arin. “What It Means To Say A Dolphin Committed Suicide.” HuffPost, 13 June 2014, https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dolphin-commits-suicide_n_5491513. Accessed 14 August 2024. Houghton, Gerard A. “John Lilly.” The Guardian, 5 October 2001, https://www.theguardian.com/news/2001/oct/05/guardianobituaries.highereducation. Accessed 14 August 2024. Jones, Tom, et al. “The Ketamine Secrets of 'Ecco the Dolphin.'” VICE, 16 March 2015, https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-ketamine-secrets-of-segas-ecco-the-dolphin-347/. Accessed 14 August 2024. Kabil, Ahmed. “Meet the psychedelics-obsessed scientist who wanted to learn dolphins' language.” Medium, 28 November 2016, https://medium.com/timeline/neuroscience-doctor-drugs-lsd-c17d5e84c653. Accessed 14 August 2024. Rapp, Joshua. “Just How Intelligent Are Dolphins?” Discover Magazine, 26 March 2021, https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/just-how-intelligent-are-dolphins. Accessed 13 August 2024. Riley, Christopher. “The dolphin who loved me: the Nasa-funded project that went wrong.” The Guardian, 8 June 2014, https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jun/08/the-dolphin-who-loved-me. Accessed 14 August 2024. Schreiber, Dan. “Will We Ever Speak Dolphinese?” The Theory of Everything Else: A Voyage Into the World of the Weird, HarperCollinsPublishers, 2023, pp. 161-173. -
New Hampshire seemed like the perfect state to start a libertarian utopia. No sales or income tax, aversion to governmental interference and the motto “Live free or die.” But for residents of Grafton, it soon became un-BEAR-able. Do you see what I did there because I don’t. Join Strange Country cohosts Beth and Kelly as they share this remarkable tale of libertarian hijinks from the book A Libertarian Walks into a Bear by Matthew Hongoltz-Hetling.
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Austin, Elizabeth. “Libertarians Took Control of This Small Town. It Didn't End Well.” Washington Monthly, 30 August 2020, https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/08/30/libertarians-took-control-of-this-small-town-it-didnt-end-well/. Accessed 27 July 2024. Barry, Dan. “What Is the Free State Project?” The New York Times, 15 July 2022, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/15/us/politics/nh-free-state-project.html. Accessed 30 July 2024. Bookman, Todd. “Libertarian activist sentenced to 8 years in prison for role in cryptocurrency money laundering scheme.” NHPR, 2 October 2023, https://www.nhpr.org/nh-news/2023-10-02/libertarian-activist-sentenced-to-8-years-in-prison-for-role-in-cryptocurrency-money-laundering-scheme. Accessed 30 July 2024. Hongoltz-Hetling, Matthew. A Libertarian Walks Into a Bear: The Utopian Plot to Liberate an American Town (and Some Bears). PublicAffairs, 2020. Malone, Clare. “What Does Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Actually Want.” The New Yorker, 5 August 2024, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/08/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-profile-presidential-campaign. “Pastor Killed in Fire at 200-Year-Old Grafton Church.” nhpr, 14 January 2016, https://www.nhpr.org/post/pastor-killed-fire-200-year-old-grafton-church. Sullivan, Adam. “Judge settles dispute over fire-ravaged church in New Hampshire.” WCAX 3, 2 May 2019, https://www.wcax.com/content/news/Judge-settles-dispute-over-fire-ravaged-church-in-New-Hampshire-509395891.html. Sullivan, Adam. “New life for New Hampshire church destroyed by fire.” WCAX 3, 21 August 2019, https://www.wcax.com/content/news/New-life-for-New-Hampshire-church-destroyed-by-fire-557778101.html. -
Things are changing in ‘Merica, we can feel it. Join Beth and Kelly today as we tell the tale of white women in the south who played a very major role in the trading of enslaved people during the 18th and 19th centuries. It is a story that has only recently been uncovered and exposed thanks to the research work of Stephanie Jones-Rogers and her book They Were Her Property. Now after years of historians painting pictures of the delicate flowers known as white Southern Belles married to men who owned enslaved people, do we learn that the women—these wives—were some of the worst, most evil and violent part of the entire slave economy. And maybe this explains why we have women today supporting the most racist and misogynist former president we have ever seen. Because old habits die hard. Thank you for listening; it’s an act of love.
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Cite your sources, dude:
Deuel, Nathan. “Book Prize winner Stephanie Jones-Rogers on women slave owners.” Los Angeles Times, 17 April 2020, https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2020-04-17/female-slave-owners-independent-brutal-stephanie-jones-rogers. Accessed 22 July 2024.
Jones Rogers, Stephanie. They Were Her Property. https://archive.org/details/they-were-her-property-white-women-as-slave-owners-in-the-american-south-pdfdrive/page/205/mode/2up.
Kell, Gretchen. “Unmasked: Many white women were Southern slave owners, too.” Berkeley News, 25 October 2019, https://news.berkeley.edu/2019/10/25/white-women-slaveholders-q-a/. Accessed 22 July 2024.
“Madame LaLaurie | The story of Delphine LaLaurie, of New Orleans.” Ghost City Tours, https://ghostcitytours.com/new-orleans/haunted-places/lalaurie-mansion/madame-lalaurie/. Accessed 22 July 2024.
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In today’s episode Strange Country cohosts Beth and Kelly slog through the remaining 4,567,324 pages of Project 2025, a manifesto to turn America into Dante’s 8th circle of hell. If you don’t want to face this, the basic gist is anything good and just is gone and is replaced by bad.
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So many citations, so little time:
Borosage, Robert L. “Why Trump's Second Victory Would Be Worse.” The Nation, 4 June 2024, https://www.thenation.com/article/society/project-2025-trump-heritage-foundation-maga/. Accessed 13 June 2024.
Dans, Paul, and Steven Groves, editors. Project 2025: Mandate for Leadership. The Heritage Foundation, 2023, https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf.
Folkenflik, David. “Trump CEO over Voice of America repeatedly abused power, investigation finds.” NPR, 21 May 2023, https://www.npr.org/2023/05/21/1177208862/usagm-michael-pack-voa-voice-of-america-investigation-trump-abuse-of-power. Accessed 11 June 2024. Garcia, Lulu. “Inside the Heritage Foundation's Plans for 'Institutionalizing Trumpism.'” The New York Times, 21 January 2024, https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/21/magazine/heritage-foundation-kevin-roberts.html. Accessed 19 June 2024. Goldman, Adam. “The Director of National Intelligence Serves Trump Agenda Amid Promises to Stay Apolitical.” The New York Times, 23 November 2020, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/09/us/politics/john-ratcliffe-intelligence.html?searchResultPosition=6. Accessed 11 June 2024. Hakala, Kate. “Here's the Absurd Advice 70s Cosmo Gave Women to Land a Man With Sex.” MIC, 21 April 2015, https://www.mic.com/articles/116000/here-are-the-super-easy-steps-a-woman-should-take-before-sex-according-to-1971-cosmo. Leingang, Rachel. “What is Project 2025 and what does it have to do with a second Trump term?” The Guardian, 26 May 2024, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/26/what-is-project-2025-trump. Accessed 9 June 2024. Lewis, Chris. “Ken Cuccinelli and the Persuasive, Pervasive Politics of Cruelty.” The American Prospect, 29 February 2024, https://prospect.org/politics/2024-02-28-ken-cuccinelli-persuasive-pervasive-politics-cruelty/. Accessed 8 June 2024. Maass, Peter. “Christopher Miller, Trump's Defense Secretary, Fights for Reputation.” The Intercept, 11 March 2023, https://theintercept.com/2023/03/11/trump-defense-secretary-christopher-miller/. Accessed 11 June 2024. Marantz, Andrew. “Does Hungary Offer a Glimpse of Our Authoritarian Future?” The New Yorker, 27 June 2022, https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/07/04/does-hungary-offer-a-glimpse-of-our-authoritarian-future. Accessed 19 June 2024. Michel, Casey. “How Viktor Orbán Conquered the Heritage Foundation.” The New Republic, 15 March 2024, https://newrepublic.com/article/179776/heritage-foundation-viktor-orban-trump. Accessed 19 June 2024. Nichols, John. “Project 2025's Guide to Subverting Democracy.” The Nation, 4 June 2024, https://www.thenation.com/article/society/project-2025-democracy-fcc-fec/. Accessed 9 June 2024. Pengelly, Martin. “Revealed: 'extremist' Trump economist plots rightwing overhaul of US treasury.” The Guardian, 29 February 2024, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/29/trump-economist-stephen-moore-us-treasury-project-2025. Accessed 8 June 2024. Pilkington, Ed. “Mass deportations, detention camps, troops on the street: Trump spells out migrant plan.” The Guardian, 3 May 2024, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/03/trump-mass-deportations-detention-camps-military-migrants. Accessed 13 June 2024. Prokop, Andrew. “Trump second term agenda: Would guardrails of democracy hold him back?” Vox, 20 May 2024, https://www.vox.com/politics/24159069/trump-guardrails-authoritarian-democracy-second-term. Accessed 11 June 2024. Reinhard, Beth. “Trump loyalist pushes ‘post-constitutional’ vision for second term.” The Washington Post, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/08/russ-vought-trump-second-term-radical-constitutional/. Accessed 8 June 2024. Sanger, Margot. “How Insurers Exploited Medicare Advantage for Billions.” The New York Times, 8 October 2022, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/08/upshot/medicare-advantage-fraud-allegations.html. Accessed 12 June 2024. Savage, Charlie, et al. “The Resistance to a New Trump Administration Has Already Started.” The New York Times, 16 June 2024, https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/16/us/politics/trump-2025-democratic-resistance.html. Accessed 16 June 2024. Smith, David. “Trump’s Project 2025 plot would take ‘wrecking ball’ to US institutions, key Democrat warns.” The Guardian, 11 June 2024, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/11/trump-project-2025-wrecking-ball. Accessed 11 June 2024. Summers, Juana, et al. “Emails show Carson family fingerprints at HUD.” CNN, 2 February 2018, https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/02/politics/ben-carson-family-hud/index.html. Accessed 13 June 2024. Thrush, Glenn. “Ben Carson's HUD Spends $31000 on Dining Set for His Office (Published 2018).” The New York Times, 27 February 2018, https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/27/us/ben-carson-hud-furniture.html. Accessed 13 June 2024. Weiland, Noah. “Trump Administration Erases Transgender Civil Rights Protections in Health Care (Published 2020).” The New York Times, 28 September 2021, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/us/politics/trump-transgender-rights.html?searchResultPosition=9. Accessed 8 June 2024. -
Project 2025 is a 920-page bloated opus about taking our fragile democracy and turning into Christian Nationalist nightmare if Trump gets back into the oval office. And Beth read it!! Well, skimmed some portions because oh my god was this bureaucratic gibberish. But that’s the point; onslaught us with so much information, we’re too numb to fight back. Listen to part one on Strange Country where Beth and Kelly detail how the Project 2025 authors, an assortment of Garbage Pail kids, pin all of society’s ills on “wokeness,” abortion, and gay people having rights. The plan is to get rid of all those things.
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Lord in heaven, look at all these citations:
Ainsley, Julia. “DHS says Border Patrol agents used force on Haitians, but didn't whip them.” NBC News, 8 July 2022, https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/dhs-report-says-border-patrol-agents-used-unnecessary-force-haitians-t-rcna36992. Accessed 15 June 2024. Bedekovics, Greta. “The Far Right’s Invitation for Foreign Interference in U.S. Elections.” The Center of American Progress, 6 June 2024, https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-far-rights-invitation-for-foreign-interference-in-u-s-elections/. Accessed 9 June 2024. Berkowitz, Bill. “'Cultural Marxism' Catches On.” Southern Poverty Law Center, 15 August 2003, https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2003/cultural-marxism-catching. Accessed 2 June 2024. Blitzer, Jonathan. “A Trump Official Behind the End of DACA Explains Himself.” The New Yorker, 10 November 2017, https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-official-behind-the-end-of-daca-explains-himself?_sp=effc46a3-4cfc-4ce5-8e5b-2d14e76847e5.1718279776181. Borosage, Robert L. “Why Trump's Second Victory Would Be Worse.” The Nation, 4 June 2024, https://www.thenation.com/article/society/project-2025-trump-heritage-foundation-maga/. Accessed 13 June 2024. Bowman, Emma. “The upside-down American flag becomes a pro-Trump protest.” NPR, 3 June 2024, https://www.npr.org/2024/06/03/nx-s1-4987590/upside-down-american-flag-protest-symbol-history. Accessed 11 June 2024. Chait, Jonathan. “John Durham Admits He Knows Little About Russia Scandal.” New York Magazine, 21 June 2023, https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/06/john-durham-admits-he-knows-little-about-russia-scandal.html. Accessed 11 June 2024. Dans, Paul, and Steven Groves, editors. Project 2025: Mandate for Leadership. The Heritage Foundation, 2023, https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf. Davis, Julie Hirschfeld. “Shoot Migrants' Legs, Build Alligator Moat: Behind Trump's Ideas for Border (Published 2019).” The New York Times, 2 October 2019, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/us/politics/trump-border-wars.html. Accessed 11 June 2024. Folkenflik, David. “Trump CEO over Voice of America repeatedly abused power, investigation finds.” NPR, 21 May 2023, https://www.npr.org/2023/05/21/1177208862/usagm-michael-pack-voa-voice-of-america-investigation-trump-abuse-of-power. Accessed 11 June 2024. Goldman, Adam. “The Director of National Intelligence Serves Trump Agenda Amid Promises to Stay Apolitical.” The New York Times, 23 November 2020, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/09/us/politics/john-ratcliffe-intelligence.html?searchResultPosition=6. Accessed 11 June 2024. Grim, Ryan. “Trump Administration Allows Appointees to Apportion Federal Funds.” The Intercept, 20 August 2020, https://theintercept.com/2020/08/20/federal-funds-omb-apportionment-trump/. Accessed 9 June 2024. Jackson, Harold. “Joseph Coors.” The Guardian, 18 March 2003, https://www.theguardian.com/news/2003/mar/19/guardianobituaries.usa. Accessed 11 June 2024. Joselow, Maxine. “Ex-EPA official on rollbacks, snowballs and selling Trump.” E&E News by Politico, 22 February 2019, https://www.eenews.net/articles/ex-epa-official-on-rollbacks-snowballs-and-selling-trump/. Accessed 8 June 2024. Kelly, Caroline, et al. “Ken Cuccinelli blames drowned man in border photograph for own, daughter’s deaths.” CNN, https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/27/politics/ken-cuccinelli-drowned-father-daughter-fault/index.html. Accessed 8 June 2024. Leingang, Rachel. “What is Project 2025 and what does it have to do with a second Trump term?” The Guardian, 26 May 2024, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/26/what-is-project-2025-trump. Accessed 9 June 2024. Lewis, Chris. “Ken Cuccinelli and the Persuasive, Pervasive Politics of Cruelty.” The American Prospect, 29 February 2024, https://prospect.org/politics/2024-02-28-ken-cuccinelli-persuasive-pervasive-politics-cruelty/. Accessed 8 June 2024. Maass, Peter. “Christopher Miller, Trump's Defense Secretary, Fights for Reputation.” The Intercept, 11 March 2023, https://theintercept.com/2023/03/11/trump-defense-secretary-christopher-miller/. Accessed 11 June 2024. Nichols, John. “Project 2025's Guide to Subverting Democracy.” The Nation, 4 June 2024, https://www.thenation.com/article/society/project-2025-democracy-fcc-fec/. Accessed 9 June 2024. Nichols, John. “Project 2025's Guide to Subverting Democracy.” The Nation, 4 June 2024, https://www.thenation.com/article/society/project-2025-democracy-fcc-fec/. Accessed 13 June 2024. Pengelly, Martin. “Revealed: 'extremist' Trump economist plots rightwing overhaul of US treasury.” The Guardian, 29 February 2024, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/29/trump-economist-stephen-moore-us-treasury-project-2025. Accessed 8 June 2024. Pilkington, Ed. “Mass deportations, detention camps, troops on the street: Trump spells out migrant plan.” The Guardian, 3 May 2024, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/03/trump-mass-deportations-detention-camps-military-migrants. Accessed 13 June 2024. Prokop, Andrew. “Trump second term agenda: Would guardrails of democracy hold him back?” Vox, 20 May 2024, https://www.vox.com/politics/24159069/trump-guardrails-authoritarian-democracy-second-term. Accessed 11 June 2024. Reinhard, Beth. “Trump loyalist pushes ‘post-constitutional’ vision for second term.” The Washington Post, https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/08/russ-vought-trump-second-term-radical-constitutional/. Accessed 8 June 2024. Sanger, Margot. “How Insurers Exploited Medicare Advantage for Billions.” The New York Times, 8 October 2022, https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/08/upshot/medicare-advantage-fraud-allegations.html. Accessed 12 June 2024. Savage, Charlie, et al. “The Resistance to a New Trump Administration Has Already Started.” The New York Times, 16 June 2024, https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/16/us/politics/trump-2025-democratic-resistance.html. Accessed 16 June 2024. Smith, David. “Trump’s Project 2025 plot would take ‘wrecking ball’ to US institutions, key Democrat warns.” The Guardian, 11 June 2024, https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jun/11/trump-project-2025-wrecking-ball. Accessed 11 June 2024. Summers, Juana, et al. “Emails show Carson family fingerprints at HUD.” CNN, 2 February 2018, https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/02/politics/ben-carson-family-hud/index.html. Accessed 13 June 2024. SUPERVILLE, DARLENE. “Jill Biden will lead new initiative to boost federal government research into women's health.” AP News, 13 November 2023, https://apnews.com/article/jill-biden-research-womens-health-gender-policy-dbe0eec03767cacbbccd07cc83ee15df. Accessed 9 June 2024. Swaine, Jon. “Stephen Moore: Trump's Federal Reserve pick withdraws nomination.” The Guardian, 2 May 2019, https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/may/02/stephen-moore-trump-federal-reserve-nominee-withdraws-latest. Accessed 8 June 2024. Thrush, Glenn. “Ben Carson's HUD Spends $31000 on Dining Set for His Office (Published 2018).” The New York Times, 27 February 2018, https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/27/us/ben-carson-hud-furniture.html. Accessed 13 June 2024. Weiland, Noah. “Trump Administration Erases Transgender Civil Rights Protections in Health Care (Published 2020).” The New York Times, 28 September 2021, https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/us/politics/trump-transgender-rights.html?searchResultPosition=9. Accessed 8 June 2024. Yachnin, Jennifer. “Trump BLM chief: Let's do away with Antiquities Act.” E&E News, 6 February 2024, https://www.eenews.net/articles/trump-blm-chief-lets-do-away-with-antiquities-act/. Accessed 8 June 2024. -
Hey Dash Hounds, you clever playful listeners. Why do we play? Are we even allowed to play as adults without judgment. Not if Beth is around. In this episode, Kelly and Beth discuss the science of play—specifically animal play. Of course we have watched our cats indulge in “playful” ankle biting, but other animals also incorporate play in their daily lives. But why? Listen and find out. Thank you always for listening; it’s an act of love.
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Works cited, dude:
Wikipedia, https://www.watchmojo.com/articles/top-5-freaky-facts-about-dolphin-sex/dolphins-are-sexually-aggressive-and-violent. Accessed 9 June 2024.
Gigliotti, Carol. The Creative Lives of Animals. NYU Press, 2022.
“Information and stories about San Francisco coyotes: behavior & personality, coexistence & outreach, by Janet Kessler: Unveiling first-hand just how savvy, social, sentient and singular coyotes really are! | Page 3.” Coyote Yipps, 10 November 2023, https://coyoteyipps.com/page/3/. Accessed 9 June 2024.
Norris, Courtney. “Group of orcas attack and sink vessels off Iberian Peninsula.” PBS, 14 June 2023, https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/group-of-orcas-attack-and-sink-vessels-off-iberian-peninsula. Accessed 9 June 2024.
Smith, Ellie. “Why playing games is good for you.” BBC, 3 February 2022, https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220127-why-adults-should-embrace-their-playfulness. Accessed 9 June 2024.
Toomey, David. Kingdom of Play: What Ball-bouncing Octopuses, Belly-flopping Monkeys, and Mud-sliding Elephants Reveal about Life Itself. Scribner, 2024. Accessed 9 June 2024.
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What should you not do if you commit crimes? Write a book where the main character is someone just like you doing the very crimes you are doing. John Leonard Orr, fire captain and arson investigator, wrote a book about a serial arsonist in LA County while he was being that very serial arsonist. Strange Country cohosts Beth and Kelly talk about the strange crime of arson in today’s weekly/bimonthly podcast. Thanks for sticking with us!
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Cite your sources:
Antholis, Kary. “A Convicted Fireman-Arsonist and Me: The Facts As I Knew Them.” Crime Story, 24 January 2020, https://crimestory.com/2020/01/24/a-convicted-fireman-arsonist-and-me-the-facts-as-i-knew-them/. Accessed 18 May 2024. Hesse, Monica. American Fire: Love, Arson, And Life in a Vanshing Land. WW Norton, 2017. “INVESTIGATOR CHARGED IN 3 ARSON CASES.” The Washington Post, 6 December 1991, https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/national/1991/12/07/investigator-charged-in-3-arson-cases/cb86ce32-f4fc-40ba-9cd7-21104b1f4e0c/. Accessed 18 May 2024. Ricapito, Maria. “My Father John Orr Got Sexual Thrills from His Murderous Arson.” A&E, 5 June 2018, https://www.aetv.com/real-crime/john-orr-arsonist-father-firefighter-murderer-family-lori-orr-kovach. Accessed 18 May 2024. Wambaugh, Joseph. Fire lover. HarperCollins, 2002. -
Charles Lindbergh wasn’t only known for that flight, his weird reverence for Nazis and being the public face of America First, he was also interested in literal immortality. In the 1930s, he collaborated with Dr. Alexis Carrel to devise ways to regenerate organs so people could possibly live forever, but not just any people. It’s the 1930s and these two white guys are mainly interested in elongating the lives of other white western dudes. Join Strange Country cohosts Beth and Kelly as they share another Lindbergh story and discuss whether they would want to live forever.
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Cite your sources:
Dodes, Rachel. “The One-Body Problem.” Vanity Fair, no. 755, February 2024, 62-67, 97-99. Friedman, David M. The Immortalists: Charles Lindbergh, Dr. Alexis Carrel, and Their Daring Quest to Live Forever. HarperCollins, 2008. Harding, Luke. “DNA backs Lindbergh family claim | World news.” The Guardian, 28 November 2003, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/nov/29/germany.usa?CMP=gu_com. Accessed 29 March 2024. Jehangir, Waqas. “Evolution of Artificial Hearts: An Overview and History.” NCBI, 6 October 2014, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5358116/. Accessed 16 March 2024. Mark, Joshua J. “Gilgamesh.” World History Encyclopedia, 15 December 2022, https://www.worldhistory.org/gilgamesh/. Accessed 3 March 2024. Stein, Rob. “First human transplant of a genetically modified pig kidney performed.” NPR, 21 March 2024, https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2024/03/21/1239790816/first-pig-kidney-human-transplant. Accessed 23 March 2024. Tully, Tracey. “The Lindbergh Baby Kidnapping: A Grisly Theory and a Renewed Debate.” The New York Times, 6 March 2024, https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/05/nyregion/charles-lindbergh-baby.html. Accessed 24 March 2024. Velie, Marissa Sertich. “What's the Difference Between Dutch Process and Natural Cocoa Powder?” Serious Eats, https://www.seriouseats.com/difference-dutch-process-natural-cocoa-powder-substitute. Accessed 3 March 2024. -
Dear Dash Hounds, join Beth and Kelly as we try to pull the curtain open on the Wonderful Wizard of credit scores. Do you know your credit score? Do you care? Has it ruined your life? We talk about many things on Strange Country from periods to sex to murder and now, the most secretive of things–money. ‘Mericans don’t talk openly about their money issues, and surprise! That is not good practice. We are stressed and worried and in debt, and there’s a reason why. Find out today on Strange Country. Thanks for listening. It is an act of love, and sometimes all you need is love.
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Works Cited
Campisi, Natalie. “From Inherent Racial Bias to Incorrect Data—The Problems With Current Credit Scoring Models.” Forbes, 26 February 2021, https://www.forbes.com/advisor/credit-cards/from-inherent-racial-bias-to-incorrect-data-the-problems-with-current-credit-scoring-models/. Accessed 18 March 2024.
“Fair Credit Reporting Act.” Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Credit_Reporting_Act. Accessed 18 March 2024.
Fiano, Liane. “Common errors people find on their credit report - and how to get them fixed.” Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, 5 February 2019, https://www.consumerfinance.gov/about-us/blog/common-errors-credit-report-and-how-get-them-fixed/. Accessed 18 March 2024.
Frazier, Mya. “The High Cost of Bad Credit.” The New York Times, 7 June 2023, https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/07/magazine/bad-credit-repair.html. Accessed 18 March 2024.
Furletti, Mark. “Secret History Of The Credit Card - More To Explore | FRONTLINE.” Secret History Of The Credit Card - More To Explore | FRONTLINE | PBS, 23 November 2004, https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/credit/more/scores.html. Accessed 18 March 2024.
Johnson, Holly. “8 Ways You're Hurting Your Credit Score Without Knowing It.” Forbes, 28 June 2021, https://www.forbes.com/advisor/credit-score/8-ways-youre-hurting-your-credit-score-without-knowing-it/. Accessed 18 March 2024.
Nova, Annie. YouTube: Home, 3 June 2009, https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/25/bernie-sanders-wants-to-overhaul-the-countrys-credit-reporting-system.html. Accessed 18 March 2024.
Trainor, Sean. “Your Credit Score's Long History, From Espionage to Algorithms.” Time, 22 July 2015, https://time.com/3961676/history-credit-scores/. Accessed 18 March 2024.
White, Alexandria. “90% of Americans Stress About Money, According to Study Results.” CNBC, https://www.cnbc.com/select/why-americans-are-stressed-about-money/. Accessed 18 March 2024.
Wilbers, Pippin. “How Inflation Affects Car Loan Rates.” Bankrate, 31 January 2024, https://www.bankrate.com/loans/auto-loans/how-inflation-affects-auto-loan-rates/#why. Accessed 18 March 2024.
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The mid-20th century was the heyday of figuring out why humans were the worst through the use of social psychological experiments. Strange Country cohosts Beth and Kelly talk about one such experiment, Muzafer Sherif’s Robbers Cave Experiment where Sherif gathered a group of 12 year old boys to see if he could pit the boys against one another. Sherif’s experiment is included in Psych 101 books about group dynamics, but did this hostility occur organically or was it more manufactured by the adults?
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Cite your sources:
Higgins, Nick, and Maria Konnikova. “Revisiting Robbers Cave: The easy spontaneity of intergroup conflict.” Scientific American Blog Network, 5 September 2012, https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/literally-psyched/revisiting-the-robbers-cave-the-easy-spontaneity-of-intergroup-conflict/. Accessed 15 January 2024. Mcleod, Saul. “Robbers Cave Experiment | Realistic Conflict Theory.” Simply Psychology, 27 September 2023, https://www.simplypsychology.org/robbers-cave.html. Accessed 27 February 2024. Perry, Gina. The Lost Boys: Inside Muzafer Sherif's Robbers Cave Experiment. Scribe Publications, 2019. Perry, Gina. “Robbers Cave Experiment.” Practical Psychology, 26 September 2022, https://practicalpie.com/robbers-cave-experiment/. Accessed 27 February 2024. Shariatmadari, David, and Gina Perry. “A real-life Lord of the Flies: the troubling legacy of the Robbers Cave experiment.” The Guardian, 16 April 2018, https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/apr/16/a-real-life-lord-of-the-flies-the-troubling-legacy-of-the-robbers-cave-experiment. Accessed 27 February 2024. -
Hey Dash Hounds, are you still there? Beth and Kelly are. Or are we? Has ChatGPT taken over? Can it? We are just women after all. What is our worth? In this episode, we will talk about women’s worth and Emma Goldman, a woman who fought for many things and has been forgotten like so many others. But Strange Country is doing its best to keep women’s work alive before AI eats us up? Thanks always for listening.
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Works Cited
Goldman, Emma. Living My Life. New York, Alfred A. Knopf Inc., 1931, https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-living-my-life. Accessed 31 January 2024.
“Joseph A. Labadie Collection.” University of Michigan Library, https://www.lib.umich.edu/collections/collecting-areas/special-collections-and-archives/joseph-labadie-collection. Accessed 1 February 2024.
“The Labadie Collection A Hidden Treasure In Our Midst.” Ann Arbor District Library, https://aadl.org/node/247050. Accessed 31 January 2024.
PBS American Experience. “Emma Goldman: 1869-1940.” https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/goldman-1869-1940/. Accessed 28 1 2024.
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Happy 2024! And Beth and Kelly are back with another tale of another cult on another year of Strange Country. What’s to say? It starts off with plans for communal living and burns out in abuse, financial malfeasance and weird sex awfulness.
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Cite your sources: Hoban, Phoebe. “Psycho Drama: The Chilling Story of How the Sullivanian Cult Turned a Utopian Dream into a Nightmare.” New York Magazine [New York], 19 June 1989, pp. 41-53, https://books.google.com/books?id=XOcCAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA46&lpg=PA46&dq=sullivanians+1989+New+York+Magazine+article&source=bl&ots=IFdQMBb5im&sig=9gTIMcGzzHJpDx8Bz-pESJDkFZA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjUo7SF3KDPAhVGWh4KHbTMDhwQ6AEIODAE#v=onepage&q=sullivanians%201989. Murray, Stephanie H., and Adam Serwer. “Why Parents Struggle So Much in the World's Richest Country.” The Atlantic, 5 January 2024, https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2024/01/america-failed-parents-rich-countries-raising-kids/677023/. Accessed 6 January 2024. Offenhartz, Jake, and Kerry Shaw. “Inside the Rise & Fall Of A 1970s Upper West Side Cult.” Gothamist, 21 September 2016, https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/inside-the-rise-fall-of-a-1970s-upper-west-side-cult. Accessed 30 December 2023. Stille, Alexander. The Sullivanians: Sex, Psychotherapy, and the Wild Life of an American Commune. Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2023. Winter, Jessica. “The Upper West Side Cult That Hid in Plain Sight.” The New Yorker, 14 June 2023, https://www.newyorker.com/books/under-review/the-upper-west-side-cult-that-hid-in-plain-sight. Accessed 30 December 2023. - Laat meer zien
