Afleveringen
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Picture this: Your sugar cravings arenât about willpower but a complex neurological battle happening deep inside your brain. This week, weâre uncovering a revolutionary approach to wellness with Dr. Nicole Avena, the neuroscience maverick set to change everything you thought you knew about health.
As an Associate Professor at Mount Sinai and bestselling author of Sugarless, Dr. Nicole has revealed a shocking truth: Sugar activates the same dopamine pathways as cocaine, locking millions in a relentless cycle of cravings and consumption that wreaks havoc on their health.
But hereâs the game-changer: Dr. Nicole isnât just identifying the problemâsheâs offering a radical solution. In this transformative episode, she brings her unique blend of clinical expertise and holistic insight to challenge us to move beyond quick fixes. Instead, she invites us to embrace a deeper understanding of what our bodies and minds genuinely need.
This isnât just another conversation about health. Itâs a call to actionâa shift from traditional healthcare to a more intuitive, self-aware approach to living. Dr. Nicole blends cutting-edge science with time-tested wellness practices, showing us how to truly listen to ourselves and unlock a healthier, more balanced life.
Donât miss this powerful episode with one of wellnessâs most insightful minds. Follow us @wherebrainsmeetbeautypodcast for updates, behind-the-scenes content, and more.
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What happens when you realize the walls that have protected your success might also be limiting your potential? In this captivating episode of Where Brains Meet Beauty, Kelly Fanning, SVP and General Manager of Clinique North America, reveals the moment that changed everything â a simple lunch with friends that forced her to question whether her success was truly her own or simply a product of her environment.
After fifteen years of climbing the corporate ladder at Johnson & Johnson, Kelly found herself at a crossroads during her maternity leave. While her peers had navigated multiple career shifts, she had flourished within the same corporate walls. It took the perspective of motherhood and a dash of courage to make her ask the question many successful leaders fear: "Is it me, or is it the system that's made me successful?"
In this intimate conversation, Kelly shares the three pillars of leadership that shaped her own success: true empowerment, active coaching, and helping others envision their future. Her story reminds us that sometimes the bravest thing we can do is step outside our comfort zone, even when â especially when â we're at the top of our game.
Kellyâs journey serves as an important reminder that leadership is not about self-preservation or staying safe within the confines of past successes. It's about taking calculated risks, mentoring with purpose, and empowering others to see beyond what they think is possible.
Tune in to this episode for an inspiring conversation about leadership, growth, and the courage to step beyond the familiar. And donât forget to follow us @wherebrainsmeetbeautypodcast for behind-the-scenes content, updates, and more!
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When youâre committed to a path, what does it take to rise to the top? In this heartfelt episode of Where Brains Meet Beauty, we sit down with the remarkable Dr. Dendy Engelman, an award-winning dermatologist who shares her inspiring journey of dedication and compassion in the world of dermatology and aesthetics.
Dr. Dendyâs story begins with a simple school field trip alongside her physician father that ignited her passion for medicine. From that moment, she dedicated herself to years of hard work, focus, and perseverance, ultimately becoming a respected voice in aesthetic dermatology. She beautifully articulates how science, psychology, and wisdom blend to create life-changing experiences for her patients, highlighting the profound impact of a thoughtful and patient-centered approach.
In this intimate conversation, Dr. Dendy opens up about the emotional complexities of her field, emphasizing the importance of balancing the enhancement of her patientsâ appearances with the safeguarding of their emotional well-being. She believes that true transformation transcends surface-level changes, touching the very core of self-acceptance and confidence.
As a working mother of two and a sought-after voice in the industry, Dr. Dendy candidly discusses the challenges she faces in balancing her thriving career with family life. Her insights remind us that growth is about more than just ambition; itâs about the patient commitment to excellence, the strength to keep pushing forward, and the courage to embrace every step of the journey.
Her story is a powerful reminder that true success comes not from shortcuts or the pursuit of fame, but from a relentless dedication to one's craft and the genuine desire to uplift others along the way.
You wonât want to miss this episode. Don't forget to follow us @wherebrainsmeetbeautypodcast on Instagram for updates on new episodes and exclusive off-air content.
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What does it take to give up a normal life to style A-list celebrities? Have you ever wondered if fame and fortune are worth the sacrifices? In Episode 269 of Where Brains Meet Beauty, we wrap up our âArtistry Wisdomâ series with celebrity hairstylist Andrew Fitzsimons, founder of Andrew Fitzsimons Hair. Andrew opens up about the highest highs and lowest of lows of his journey to becoming a household name in Hollywood.
Join us as Andrew takes us on his remarkable journey from his humble beginnings in Ireland to becoming Hollywood's go-to stylist for icons like Kim Kardashian, Bella Hadid, and Madonna. Known for his fearless artistry and passion for beauty, Andrew shares how he turned his dream into reality, navigating the pressures of the fashion capitals of Paris, New York, and LA.
Through this candid conversation, we explore Andrewâs early influences, his challenges growing up as a creative in a small, less accepting environment, and how he made his escape to the global stage. Andrewâs personality shines through as he opens up about self-doubt, ambition, and building a career that thrives on self-expression. This episode is not just about hair tipsâitâs about Andrewâs inspiring career journey, how heâs used his talents to lift others, and the lessons he's learned along the way.
As Andrew opens up about the sacrifices he's made, he leaves us with a thought-provoking question: Is it worth it? How do you reconcile your desires with career ambitions? Tune in to hear Andrewâs surprising take on how he navigates this crossroad, and how, in the end, success is not always what it seems.
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From small-town dreamer to skincare maven for the stars, Angela Caglia's journey is a masterclass in turning passion into empire. This captivating 'Artistry Wisdom' episode of "Where Brains Meet Beauty" unveils the remarkable ascent of a celebrity esthetician whose hands have perfected the complexions of Hollywood's elite, including Barbra Streisand and Sting. With 28 years of experience, Angela's tale is a riveting odyssey of grit, glamour, and innovation in beauty. Her path from a farming town to the glamorous streets of Paris and New York showcases the power of ambition and adaptability. Angela's story includes studying international business, discovering her passion for skincare in Paris, and eventually making her mark in Los Angeles.
This episode explores Angela's pivotal experiences, including her time at Ole Henriksen's spa and the launch of her groundbreaking skincare line, Angela Caglia Skincare. Listeners will gain insights into balancing hands-on esthetics with running a global skincare brand, and the challenges of entrepreneurship in the beauty industry.
Angela shares her unique approach to skincare, describing herself as a "blind artist" who uses touch and intuition to understand and treat skin. She emphasizes the importance of trust when working with high-profile clients and staying connected to customers' needs while innovating in product development.
Her story offers valuable insights and inspiration for aspiring estheticians, beauty professionals, and entrepreneurs alike. Tune in to Episode 268 to hear how Angela Caglia has carved her niche in the beauty world, blending hands-on expertise with innovative product development. Check out her products at angelacaglia.com and remember to follow us @wherebrainsmeetbeautypodcast on Instagram for updates on new episodes and exclusive off-air content.
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This episode features Tina Uzzardi, founder and CEO of Cheeks + Co, in an inspiring exploration of artistry in the beauty industry. Tina's journey from aspiring entrepreneur to successful spa owner showcases the intersection of business acumen and skincare artistry.
We delve into Tina's career journey from operations at clean beauty brand ILIA to founding Cheeks + Co. Inspired by her struggles to find advanced skincare guidance in a spa-like setting, Tina decided to create the experience she craved. This led her to become a licensed aesthetician, blending her business savvy with hands-on expertise. Her commitment to continuous learning and improvement shines through as she discusses her training methods and plans for expanding education within her company.
Listeners will be inspired by Tina's journey from a self-proclaimed "jack of all trades" to a master of her craft. Her story exemplifies how artistry in skincare goes beyond mere technique, encompassing business strategy, customer experience, and a deep understanding of individual skin needs.
Tune in to Episode 267 to hear how Tina Uzzardi is revolutionizing the facial experience and building a beauty empire on her own terms. Tina also gave us a promo code - WBMB20
good for 15% off any products at cheeks.co - We love that they partner with female founded brands and have curated choices that reflect their âcleanâ commitment to healthy skin.
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From Hollywood screenwriter to beauty industry innovator, Sahara Lotti's journey is a testament to the power of passion and perseverance. In this electrifying 'Artistry Wisdom' episode of the Where Brains Meet Beauty podcast, we dive into the world of Sahara Lotti Lashifyâs founder and CEO, whose relentless drive has revolutionized the beauty landscape.
Sahara's story begins in the glitz and glamour of Hollywood, where her screenwriting talents caught the eye of major studios. However, her keen eye for innovation led her to identify a gap in the beauty market, propelling her to invent the world's first DIY lash extension system. With over 600 patents, Sahara has become the undisputed queen of lash technology.
Her high-octane energy is palpable as she recounts the twists and turns of her entrepreneurial journey. From the early days of Lashify to its current status as a game-changer in the beauty industry, Sahara's artistry and inventive spirit shine through. She reveals how makeup artists have been crucial to advancing her innovations, and how her passion for people and connection fuels her success.
This episode delves into Sahara's unconventional methods, from her meticulous patent strategies to her refreshing take on team building. Listeners will be inspired by her raw honesty about the challenges of scaling a business and the importance of staying true to one's vision. Sahara's story exemplifies the art of thinking differently in a saturated market.
Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur or simply curious about the intersection of beauty and innovation, this episode promises insights that will leave you both enlightened and entertained.
Tune in to Episode 266 to hear how Sahara Lotti writes her own rules and redefines beauty on her terms. Listen wherever you enjoy your favorite podcasts, and don't forget to follow us @wherebrainsmeetbeautypodcast on Instagram for updates on new episodes and exclusive off-air content.
Sahara sent us a discount code for new customers,
25% off at checkout with code: BEAUTYBRAINS at lashify.com
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Celebrity makeup artist and founder of sustainable beauty brand Neen, Jeanine Lobell once dreamed of joining the circusâa far cry from enhancing the beauty of stars like Cate Blanchett, Natalie Portman and Nicole Kidman. In this âArtistry Wisdomâ episode of the âWhere Brains Meet Beautyâ podcast, we explore the journey of one of independent beauty's true pioneers. From embracing mindfulness to cementing her status as an icon in the cultural zeitgeist, Jeanine shares valuable insights and reflections on her remarkable career.
With over two decades of experience, Jeanine has expertly navigated the âcircusâ of life, artistry, and entrepreneurship, gracefully balancing and leaping through the ups and downs of her career. Her natural ability to "tune out the noise" early in her journey, coupled with a strong intuition and a deep recognition of her artistic talents, has led to a remarkable trajectory. Her work has graced the covers of Vogue, W, Vanity Fair, and Harperâs Bazaar, cementing her status as an industry icon. Yet, beyond her professional achievements lies a rich life and a sense of identity that transcends her work.
This perspective and outlook on life inspired the creation of her brand Stila, founded in 1994. Stila revolutionized makeup by championing it as a vessel for culture and community with its innovative paper packaging and formulas. The brand's acquisition by EstĂ©e Lauder Companies in 1999 was a monumental achievement for Lobellâs independent vision.
Today, Jeanine continues to break new ground with Neen, her sustainable, subscription-based beauty brand that challenges conventional beauty standards. In an industry that never stops, Jeanine truly embodies the role of ringleader in her own circus and we loved learning more about her journey!
Tune in to this week's episode on your favorite podcast platform to hear more. If you want to try any of Jeanineâs products she gave us an exclusive code - WBMB15 for 15% off site wide on weareneen.com Valid for this week from 9/4 - 9/11
Don't forget to follow us @wherebrainsmeetbeautypodcast on Instagram for updates on new episodes and exclusive off-air content.
#WBMB #JeanineLobell #CelebrityMakeupArtist #CareerJourney #FemaleEntrepreneur
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From growing up with a dream of becoming an artist, captivated by the world of interior design, to channeling her passion into a successful career in sales, East Area Vice President at Merz Aesthetics- Patricia Jones earned her seat at the table.
Patricia's love for artistry never waned; instead, it found a new and profound expression in the world of aesthetics. Throughout our discussion on this weekâs episode, Patricia reflects on how in the former male-dominated industry, she continued to trust in her work-ethic and leadership skills to be a strong voice and uplift those around her. Her journey is a powerful story of leadership, resilience, and finding the joy in being a strong supporter for others. Patriciaâs career journey exemplifies how women can evolve their paths in beautiful, unforeseen ways while empowering others to âwork hard and do the right thingâ.
Patricia Jones embodies what it means to be a strong female leader, showing that with passion, resilience, and empathy, women can not only succeed but also lead with grace and strength in ever-evolving industries.
Thank you, Patricia, for sharing your story and for being a trailblazer in the world of aesthetics. Tune in to this weekâs podcast episode to hear more about Patriciaâs inspiring journey and her insights on leading with purpose.
Follow us @wherebrainsmeetbeautypodcast on Instagram for updates on new episodes and exclusive behind-the-scenes content.
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Where Brains Meet Beauty Podcast is proud to announce its third Listen Again Awards! These awards recognize past guests whose episodes have made a lasting impact and inspire us to âlisten againâ! Weâre dedicating this episode to the Listen Again Award recipients: Dr. Rolanda Wilkerson, Rachel Liverman, and Chris Collins. Highlights from these great conversations and short remarks from the winners are included in this episode.
In Episode 220, Dr. Rolanda Wilkerson, Senior Director at Procter and Gamble, received the Listen Again âArchiveâ Award. Beyond product creation lies a profound commitment to transparency and education, as Dr. Wilkerson advocates for humanizing the beauty industry.
In Episode 254, Rachel Liverman, Founder and CEO of Glowbar, received the Listen Again âCEO Wisdomâ Award. Rachel's passion for esthetics and her entrepreneurial spirit transformed Glowbarâs 30-minute facials into a sensation since its 2019 launch.
In Episode 257 Chris Collins, CEO and Founder of The World of Chris Collins, received the Listen Again âInfluencer Wisdomâ Award. From modeling for Ralph Lauren to creating captivating perfumes, we travel through Chrisâs journey emphasizing seizing opportunities and mentorship.
Thank you to all our guests for sharing your career journeys with us, and congratulations to the Listen Again Award recipients! We hope you enjoy these episodes as much as we do!
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On July 17, Base Beauty Creative Agency presented an expert panel featuring industry leaders from the beauty, wellness, and personal care sectors to discuss empathy's impact on business growth. âThe Empathy Effect: Unlocking Explosive Growth in Beauty, Wellness, and Personal Care Industries,â the panel moderated by Jodi Katz, CEO and Founder of Base Beauty Creative Agency. The powerful lineup included John Dioso, Editor of Ad Age Studio 30; Alan Cohen, Executive Coach and Emotional Intelligence Expert; Echo Sandburg, Chief Brand Officer at CP Skin Health Group; and Jerry Wu, CMO of Grande Cosmetics.
Donât miss the chance to hear invaluable insights and actionable knowledge from these prominent industry leaders. Listen to the webinar now on the Where Brains Meet Beauty Podcast feed or our website basebeauty.com/events-and-education/. Additionally, you can read the white paper at adage.com/white-paper/empathy-effect.
#ADAge #Beauty #Wellness #Personalcare #IndustryExperts #EmpathyEffect
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Ever wonder what really happens on the Where Brains Meet Beauty After Show? This week, we're ditching the script and bringing the electrifying energy of our exclusive IG Live after show straight to your podcast feed! Get ready for this one-of-a-kind episode packed with games, laughs, and juicy secrets straight from some of our favorite quests!
We've assembled a unique line-upâ from powerhouse CEOs to inspiring influencers - and let loose for a free-for-all of fun. These epic games hit on everything from holy-grail makeup products to dream home interiors, with detours into âtrue or falseâ around traditional Chinese medicine and even crafting the perfect date night (spoiler alert: itâs never too late to start over!).
But the games donât stop there! We're diving into unfiltered insights and practical advice on everything from the best of YouTube trends to navigating the world of A-list travel.
Suit up for an action-packed episode, straight from the sources. Grab your headphones, and get ready to laugh along as this podcast experience recreates the buzz and excitement of our Live After Show! You won't want to miss this.
2024 guests so far included Chris Payne, Lance Patterson, Erica Metzger, Michelle Larivee, Devin McGhee Kirkland, Rachel Liverman, Brittany Lo, Serena Pitt, Chris Collins, Sean Garrette, Allison McNamara, and Adelina Winfield. Tune in to this week's episode on your favorite podcast platform to hear more.
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Imagine facing the most turbulent time of your life: your career is in flux, you're going through a divorce, your children have left the nest and menopause is hitting hard. This was Adelina Winfield's reality. Yet, instead of succumbing to these overwhelming changes, she made the bravest decision of her life to pack up everything and leave the familiar streets of Brooklyn, New York for a fresh start in the creative city of Austin, Texas. What followed was a profound journey of self-discovery, new friendships, and reinvention, proving that itâs never too late to start over and that age is just a number.
In continuation of our 'Influencer Wisdom' series, we uncover Adelinaâs steadfast confidence in embracing her natural gray hairâa powerful symbol of her inner strength and wisdom. She transitioned from a successful fashion career to becoming a trailblazing influencer with over 100k followers on Instagram. Her breakthrough came in 2019 when she started connecting deeply with women just like herâwomen navigating the complexities of love, life, and aging with grace and authenticity.
Amidst all these transformations, Adelina also experienced a profound love story that blossomed later in life, defying stereotypes about finding love again after 60. Her journey is a powerful testament to the resilience of lifeâs seasons and the boundless possibilities that await those who embrace change and remain true to themselves.
Thank you, Adelina Winfield, for sharing your inspiring story with us! Tune in to this week's episode on your favorite podcast platform to hear more. Don't forget to follow us @wherebrainsmeetbeautypodcast on Instagram for updates on new episodes and exclusive off-air content.
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A trip to Istanbul sparked what would soon be a major pivot in Allison's career journey. After spending years in front of the camera, interviewing A-listers like Britney Spears, Angelina Jolie, and Khloe Kardashian, and working as an entertainment reporter and content creator for major networks like MTV and PopSugar, Allison McNamara found herself at a crossroads when her hit show on PopTV co-hosted by 90210âs Sinead Grimes was canceled in 2016.
In this episode of WBMB, we explore Allisonâs extraordinary journey from the spotlight to becoming the founder of a unique skincare brand, a transition that showcased fearlessness and hard work. Harnessing years of experience and a star-studded network, Allison courageously embarked on a journey into the uncharted realms of the beauty industry, daringly pushing past her comfort zone to chase her dreams.
As we dive into Allisonâs journey, we not only discover her unexpected breakthrough into the beauty industry with the 2018 launch of MARAâan award-winning line of algae-infused skincare and wellness productsâbut also learn about the transformative power of influencing and how it plays a role in propelling her brand to success.
Thank you, Allison McNamara, for sharing your inspiring story with us! Tune in to this week's episode on your favorite podcast platform to explore more.
Don't forget to follow us @wherebrainsmeetbeauty on Instagram for updates on new episodes and exclusive off-air content
#AllisonMcnamara #MaraBeauty #WBMB #CleanBeauty #FearlessLeader #AngelinaJolie #BrittneySpears #KhloeKardashain #RedCarpet #MTV #PopSugar
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From sleeping on his friend's couch in LA to becoming one of the first brand ambassadors for Fenty Beauty by Rihanna, Sean Garrette's story is anything but linear. Discover the power of perseverance in chasing your dreams on this weekâs WBMB episode with Esthetician and Dior Skincare Expert, Sean Garrette.
Sean's entry into the beauty industry started amidst the aisles of his first job at Ulta, which ignited his fascination with makeup and skincareâhis time there sparked a passion to pursue his dreams of becoming an esthetician and managing his very own spa. But Sean's journey wasn't without its challenges. Like any pursuit of passion, there were moments of doubt and setbacks along the way.
As we sit down with Sean and dive deeper into his journey, we uncover the warmth of his positive spirit and the authenticity that defines his success. Whether helping a client find the perfect product or sharing skincare tips with his nearly 130K followers across Instagram and TikTok Seanâs genuine passion for what he does shines through.
#SeanGarrette #Fenty #Dior #Skinfluencer #CareerJourney #Esthetician #SkincareExpert #ProSkincare #SkinTherapist
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From modeling for Ralph Lauren to crafting intoxicating perfumes that weave tales of their own, Chris Collins, CEO and Founder of the World of Chris Collins, certainly knows what it takes to be the narrator of your own story!
This week weâre so excited to sit down with Chris and dive into the significance of seizing opportunities, seeking mentorship, and unwaveringly following your dreams.
From London, to New York Chris Collins is no stranger to making bold leaps of faith. As we unravel the threads of his journey, from a childhood steeped in a passion for sports to navigating the world of social media, it becomes clear that Chris is not just a narrator but a maestro.
Chris illuminates the winding road that led him to the fragrance industry - a path filled with serendipitous encounters and unforeseen twists that ultimately revealed his true calling.
For more on Chris Collins' inspiring journey, tune in to this episode on your preferred podcast platform!
Thank you Chris Collins for sharing your career journey with us! Follow us @wherebrainsmeetbeauty on Instagram for updates on new episodes and exclusive off-air content.
#RalphLauren #Fragrance #TheWorldOfChrisCollins #MetGala #Entrepreneurship #Influencer #Empathy
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As reality television super fans, we were very excited to continue our Influencer Wisdom Quarter with Serena Pitt. Serena was a contestant on The Bachelor Season 25 and won Bachelor In Paradise Season 7. Since her reality TV days, Serena is the Founder of @reset_ thelabel and is the host of the Bachelor Happy Hour Podcast.
After studying communications in college and a stint in the world of PR, Serena entered the world of reality television where she met her husband Joe. Deciding what and what not to post is an ongoing conversation: when the whole world saw your love story unfold, how much access should they be permitted? While some influencers are comfortable posting every aspect of their lives to social media, Serena doesnât feel the need to post every moment to the grid.
As an avid traveler, Serena was inspired to create her own brand, RESET, from the need for pieces that are fashion-forward but donât sacrifice functionality.
To learn more about Serenaâs career journey, listen to this episode wherever you get your podcasts!
#SerenaPitt #TheBachelor #BachelorInParadise #RESETTheLabel
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We were thrilled to kick off our Influencer Wisdom Quarter with none other than Brittany Lo. Brittany is a beauty expert and influencer that has collabed with brands including Sephora and American Express and is the Founder and CEO of Beia and Beautini.
Though Brittanyâs plan was always to start her own beauty line, (and even had her own mascara line in high school!) her path to being a founder and CEO was anything but predictable.
After a college internship at LâOrĂ©al, Brittany was on the fast track to the corporate world, but when a TV producer reached out to her about joining the cast of a dating show, she answered the call!
Brittany may not have met Mr. Right on the short-lived show Coupled, but she did gain a loyal social media following. With her business acumen and her passion for beauty, Brittany developed Beia as a vegan skincare brand built on boosting sensual confidence in the bedroom and beyond.
To learn more about Britanyâs career journey and to hear about the books that Brittany (and our host Jodi) recommend to entrepreneurs, listen to this episode wherever you get your podcasts!
Episode Reading List:
Traction by Gino Wickman
10x Is Easier Than 2x by Dan Sullivan
Built To Sell by John Warrillow
Radical Candor by Kim Scott
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We couldnât think of a better way to close out our C-Suite Wisdom Quarter than chatting with the Founder and CEO of Glowbar, Rachel Liverman! Rachel has wanted to be a leader since her early days playing âstoreâ with her stuffed animals, so itâs no surprise that Glowbarâs signature 30-minute facials have reached cult status since opening their doors in 2019.
Rachel always knew she wanted to lead, but she surprised herself when she ended up in the family business. Thatâs right: Rachel is a third generation esthetician. Growing up in a skincare family, she recalls seeing her mother wax peopleâs legs and being fascinated by the before & after transformations that occurred. Rachel even started a small leg-waxing business in elementary school! Mom was there to supervise, of course.
Fast-forward and Rachel found herself looking for a source for convenient, trustworthy, effective facials and realizing no such place existed. Rachel wrote an email to herself manifesting her business model in 2017 and in 2019 Glowbar opened its doors. Okay, we just gave ourselves chills.
For more of Rachelâs career journey, listen to this episode wherever you get your podcasts!
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When Deon Libra Co-Founder and CEO Devin McGhee Kirklandâs father passed away in 2018 from a stress-related heart attack, she realized she had to make some lifestyle changes to deal with her own stress. After diving head-first into the world of natural stress remedies, Devin developed Deon Libra in 2020 as a way to combat the effects of chronic stress on Black bodies.
In her research on natural stress solutions, Devin learned about the healing powers of adaptogens - non-psychedelic mushrooms and was impressed by how much her sleep and anxiety improved. She couldn't help but wonder why these natural alternatives werenât more widely accessible. Devin decided she could step up and be the one to bring both education and healing-products to her community.
To hear more about Devinâs career journey and Deon Libraâs mission, listen to this episode wherever you get your podcasts!
#DeonLibra #WBMB #CareerJourney
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