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Patrick Ball, Director of Research at the Human Rights Data Analysis Group, joins Haley Berkoe on 21 in 21 to discuss how data, bitcoin, and AI can help defend human rights. Patrick explains how his team uses statistics to document mass violence, how bitcoin can help protect the integrity of human rights evidence, and why nonprofits need decentralized tools and local AI to stay resilient.
hrdag.org
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On this episode of 21 in 21, Calle discusses his work on Cashu, Bitchat, and Clawi. He explores how AI agents could use bitcoin-native payments and why privacy-preserving infrastructure matters in an increasingly agentic internet. Calle also reflects on his journey down the bitcoin rabbit hole, from early work on Lightning infrastructure to building eCash systems, and shares his perspective on the evolution of AI agents.
https://x.com/callebtc
https://clawi.ai/
https://bitchat.free/
https://cashu.space/
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Linn Bieske, Co-Lead of the AI & Technology Track at the MIT Club of Northern California (CNC), AI Product Manager, and Co-Founder of Hack-Nation, joins Haley Berkoe on 21 in 21. They discuss the upcoming Hack-Nation event on April 25 and Spiralâs sponsored challenge exploring what becomes possible when AI agents can earn using the Lightning Network. Linn also shares her perspective on what motivates todayâs AI builders, how to design experiences that lead to something more lasting than a 24-hour sprint, and why community and collaboration matter so much.
Apply by April 19 to join the upcoming hackathon, or follow along for the next one.
https://hack-nation.ai/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/linn-bieske-189b9b138/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/hack-nation/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyberkoe/
https://spiral.xyz/
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Rainey Reitman joins 21 in 21 for a conversation on financial censorship, free speech, and her new book, Transaction Denied: Big Financeâs Power to Punish Speech. Rainey co-founded Freedom of the Press Foundation and serves on the board as president. She also spent 11 years at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, first as Activism Director and later as Chief Program Officer.
Drawing on years of work in civil liberties advocacy, Rainey explains how lawful speech can still lead to frozen accounts, denied payments, and exclusion from the financial system. She also shares how these issues connect to journalism, whistleblowers, privacy, and Bitcoinâs promise, and limits, as a censorship-resistant tool.
Links to Book:
Amazon: https://a.co/d/04WK0Qek
Bookshop: https://bookshop.org/lists/transaction-denied-big-finance-s-power-to-punish-speech
Audio: https://www.audible.com/pd/Transaction-Denied-Audiobook/B0FJZRQXXR?source_code=AUDORWS0718179KY7
A portion of every book sale goes to support Freedom of the Press Foundation.
âIn her timely and necessary book, Reitman illuminates the shocking and widespread censorship exerted by the American banking system, details how Orwellian financial surveillance and control has become the norm, and makes a powerful case for why we must push for change if we want to preserve freedom and privacy in the 21st century.â
â Alex Gladstein, Chief Strategy Officer, Human Rights Foundation
Follow:
https://x.com/RaineyReitman
https://x.com/FreedomofPress
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Michael Saylor joined Haley Berkoe on 21 in 21 for a rapid-fire conversation on bitcoin, AI, and whatâs coming next. He shares whatâs top of mind for 2026, why he sees this year as a major turning point, and how he thinks bitcoin could evolve as digital capital beneath new layers of credit and currency.
Then, Saylor gets into how AI will radically transform civilization, and how that shift could make bitcoin even more important in a world where autonomous agents need to transact constantly with digital capital. He points to Strategyâs use of AI in creating digital credit products like Stretch (STRC), and shares the kinds of bitcoin products he hopes to see, from deeper integration into everyday technology to applications powered by bitcoin.
Saylor emphasizes that weâre entering one of the most fertile periods ever for building, and encourages builders and young people to spend a lot of time learning AI tools and continually pushing themselves to create something new and useful. There are also a few fun detours into MIT prank stories and the AI-generated X profile images heâs become known for.
Follow:
https://x.com/saylor
https://x.com/HBerkoe
https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin
Links:
https://www.michael.com
https://www.hope.com
https://www.uncute.com/products/here-comes-bitcoin
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Andi Pitt of Ego Death Capital joined me on 21 in 21 to talk about the rise of new startups in the bitcoin ecosystem, how the funding landscape has changed, and the growing intersection of bitcoin and AI. She also shares what she looks for in founders and offers advice for launching a startup. Beyond venture, Andi discusses her recent research into mind control and cognitive sovereignty.
Note: We recorded this while Andi was in town last November for the HRF AI for Individual Rights Summit.
https://x.com/1andipitt
https://egodeath.capital/
https://clyrapassages.substack.com/
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Mark Suman, co-founder and CEO of Maple AI, a privacy-first AI chat platform known as âthe Signal of AI,â joins Haley Berkoe on 21 in 21. Mark explains how Maple AI uses secure enclaves to deliver a ChatGPT-like experience while getting as close to local-AI privacy as possible, without requiring users to run models on their own machine. He also covers why verifiability is essential for trust, the importance of thought privacy, the shared ethos between Bitcoin and AI, and why AI in schools deserves more scrutiny.
Maple AI: https://trymaple.ai/, https://x.com/TryMapleAI
Mark Suman: https://x.com/marksuman
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Haley Berkoe sits down with David Gumberg, a Bitcoin Core contributor at Localhost, a bitcoin-focused research center in the Bay Area. David shares how he got into bitcoin, what pushed him from curiosity to contribution, and how completing the Chaincode âżOSS Challenge in 2024 helped him make the leap to contributing to Bitcoin Core full time.
They also dig into what heâs focused on now in Core: Compact Block Relay, block propagation times, and why improving network latency can make mining more fair for smaller miners.
bosschallenge.xyz (applications due Dec 31)
github.com/davidgumberg
x.com/ChaincodeLabs
x.com/lclhostresearch
x.com/HBerkoe
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In this episode of 21 in 21, Haley sits down with Rod Roudi, co-founder of Bitcoin Park in Nashville and Austin. Rod breaks down how Bitcoin Park began, why in-person energy fuels strong communities, and how Nashville grew into a hub for bitcoiners, policymakers, founders, developers, and bitcoin-curious locals. He also shares what heâs learned about bitcoin payments from the business side, why reducing merchant friction is essential, and what heâs looking forward to in 2026.
Episode Chapters
00:00 Welcome Rod
01:44 Bitcoin Park Description
03:39 Origin Story
07:08 Engaging Policymakers and Local Community
13:38 Accepting Bitcoin as a Business
16:22 Merchant Adoption and Reducing Friction
20:22 College Basketball Break
21:47 What Rod Is Excited About in 2026
23:06 Where to Follow Rod & Bitcoin Park
https://x.com/bitkite
https://x.com/bitcoinpark_
https://x.com/HBerkoe
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Haley Berkoe sits down with Joe Carlo, co-owner of Pink Owl Coffee, a cafĂ© that began in San Rafael, California, and has since expanded to three locations across the Bay Area. Pink Owl is one of the earliest Square merchants to integrate bitcoin into its business model. For several years, Joe and his partner Saandra have been converting a percentage of sales into bitcoin as part of their long-term savings strategy, and they recently joined Squareâs beta program to begin accepting bitcoin payments directly, ahead of the public launch on November 10th.
Joe shares how he first discovered bitcoin, what inspired him to use it as a small-business owner, and how heâs helped educate both customers and staff on what it means to pay (and save) in bitcoin.
https://pinkowlcoffee.com/
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Kyle Olney joins Haley Berkoe to talk about defending bitcoinâs foundational freedoms. A longtime Silicon Valley product leader turned bitcoin advocate, Kyle helped launch Save Our Wallets, a coalition fighting for Section 109 of the Clarity Act, and the Satoshi Needs You campaign, a national call to action to protect open-source developers and the right to self-custody.
Kyle shares his journey from seizing banks for the U.S. government during the 2008 financial crisis to championing bitcoinâs political and legislative future. He explains the legislative nuances of the Clarity Act, how the wrong version of this bill could endanger open-source developers, and how ordinary bitcoiners can take meaningful action.
00:00 Introducing Kyle Olney and saveourwallets.org
01:32 Kyle's journey to bitcoin advocacy
04:06 The importance of Save Our Wallets
05:46 Understanding the Clarity Act and BRCA
07:34 Getting the BRCA language written into U.S. law to protect open-source builder
8:58 Misconceptions in the bitcoin community
11:09 Why this affects everyone
14:36 The call to action
16:29 The Satoshi Needs You Campaign
19:10 Community collaboration and future outlook
22:19 How to get involved
Save Our Wallets: https://x.com/saveourwalets, saveourwallets.org
Kyle Olney: https://x.com/KyleOlney, https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyleolney/
Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe, https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyberkoe/
Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin, https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin
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In this episode of 21 in 21, Nick Slaney joins Haley Berkoe during Presidio Bitcoin Design Week. Nick is the founder of Money Dev Kit, a new startup building tools that make it easy for developers to add bitcoin and Lightning payments to their applications. Previously, he was at Block, where he helped build Bitkey and c=, whose LDK node became one of the Lightning Networkâs largest and most active. He shares why heâs betting on bitcoin over stablecoins, how Lightning service providers (LSPs) improve Lightning usability, and what gives him hope for bitcoinâs future.
FOLLOW:
Nick Slaney: https://x.com/nick_slaney
Money Dev Kit: https://x.com/money_dev_kit
Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe
Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin
WATCH THE SHOW:
https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin
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During Bitcoin Design Week at Presidio Bitcoin, product designer and HRF grantee Erik Cativo joined the show to talk about designing the future of money. We get into his experiments with ecash and bitchat, the magic of bump-to-pay interactions, and how thoughtful UX can make bitcoin feel intuitive, private, and fun.
Erik also shares lessons from living in a nearly cashless society, ideas for building âthrow-cashâ experiences inside apps like Cash App, and why anyone can help design better bitcoin products simply by giving feedback.
FOLLOW:
Erik Cativo: https://x.com/uxerik_, https://www.erik.day/
Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe
Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin
WATCH THE SHOW:
https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin
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Haley Berkoe is joined by Kyle Fletcher, Principal Design Director at Block, to explore the intersection of bitcoin, design, and culture. They discuss why artists and designers play a critical role in shaping bitcoinâs future, the sats vs. bitcoin denomination debate, and how thoughtful design can help bring bitcoin to the masses. Kyle also shares personal influences, dream projects, and why onboarding artists, local merchants, and creative communities is key to bitcoin adoption.
CHAPTER HIGHLIGHTS:
00:00 Intro & Kyleâs background at Block
01:01 State of Bitcoin brand creative
02:59 Designing future money: local and circular economies
05:55 The Intersection of art and bitcoin
08:19 The sats vs. bitcoin denomination debate
12:32 Design mentors, observation, and environment
15:39 Why Silicon Valley designers should care about Bitcoin
17:52 Dream projects: Bitcoin art galleries & philanthropy
22:11 Final thoughts: how creatives can get started with Bitcoin
23:13 Where to find Kyle online
FOLLOW:
Kyle Fletcher: https://x.com/kyleluvsew, https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylefletcher/
Block/Cash App: https://x.com/blocks, https://x.com/CashApp
Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe, https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyberkoe/
Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin, https://www.linkedin.com/company/presidio-bitcoin
LINKS:
Presidio Bitcoin Design Week Summary: https://open.substack.com/pub/bitcoindesign/p/presidio-bitcoin-design-week?r=53cq2n&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false
Kyleâs talk at Design Week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YArvqMYy6nI
Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin
WATCH THE SHOW:
https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin
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In this episode of 21 in 21, Haley is joined by Christoph Ono, co-founder of the Bitcoin Design Foundation and longtime contributor to the Bitcoin Design Community. They talk about Bitcoin Design Week in San Francisco, the effort to redesign the Bitcoin Core wallet, and why design plays such a critical role in shaping the future of money. Christoph also shares how newcomers can get involved in the Bitcoin Design Community and why making bitcoin feel magical matters.
Chapter Timestamps:
00:00 Intro & Christophâs background
01:05 Bitcoin Design Week in San Francisco
02:51 Designing future money
04:59 Why Silicon Valley designers should care about bitcoin
06:40 How to join the Bitcoin Design Community
08:44 Redesigning Bitcoin Coreâs original wallet
11:51 Designers and developers working together
13:48 Impactful projects & community contributions
17:51 Inspirations, books, and design influences
23:03 Final thoughts: making bitcoin magical
23:43 Where to follow Christoph
FOLLOW:
Christoph Ono: https://x.com/GBKS, https://www.linkedin.com/in/germanysbestkeptsecret/
Bitcoin Design Community: https://x.com/bitcoin_design
Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe, https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyberkoe/
Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin, https://www.linkedin.com/company/presidio-bitcoin
LINKS:
Bitcoin Design 5 Year Report: https://five.bitcoin.design/
Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud: https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Comics-Invisible-Scott-McCloud/dp/006097625X
Bitcoin Design Community: https://bitcoin.design/
Bitcoin Design Foundation: https://bitcoindesignfoundation.org/
Bitcoin Design Week: https://event.bitcoin.design/
Christoph speaking at Bitcoin Design Week: https://youtu.be/EbFCoVtJKEc?si=JEVxnLCTFJGX9NdL
Christophâs Substack: https://gbks.substack.com/
WATCH THE SHOW:
https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin
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In this episode, Haley Berkoe interviews Conor Okus, a Product Manager at Spiral. Conor shares his journey from playing football to becoming a grantee at Spiral and now managing the grant program. He addresses common misconceptions about bitcoin contributors, emphasizes the importance of user experience in promoting adoption, and discusses the emergence of user-friendly (easy) bitcoin addresses.
Conor also shares his thoughts on the intersection of AI and bitcoin, the ongoing debate about using "âż " instead of "sats" to display bitcoin denominations, and offers valuable advice for newcomers to the bitcoin space.
EPISODE TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Conorâs unique path: From footballer to bitcoiner
01:33 Becoming a Spiral grantee and joining the team full-time
03:53 What Spiral looks for in grant applications
05:08 Misconceptions about bitcoin contributors
07:15 First impressions of Presidio Bitcoin and the SF builder scene
08:25 Current focus: UX, BOLT12, and easy bitcoin addresses
12:04 The next wave of bitcoin innovation: Lightning and AI
14:38 How AI might leverage bitcoin for payments and micro-transactions
18:27 The sats vs. bitcoin âż display debate (BIP 177 and UX shifts)
22:37 Advice for aspiring bitcoin contributors
23:42 How to reach Conor & connect with Spiral
FOLLOW:
Conor Okus: https://x.com/ConorOkus, https://www.linkedin.com/in/conorokus/
Spiral: https://x.com/spiralbtc, https://www.linkedin.com/company/spiralbtc
Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe, https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyberkoe/
Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin, https://www.linkedin.com/company/presidio-bitcoin
LINKS:
Spiral Grant Guidelines: https://spiral.xyz/blog/square-crypto-grants-for-everybody/
Easy Bitcoin Address: https://easybitcoinaddress.me/
Bitcoin Design Week at Presidio Bitcoin: https://event.bitcoin.design/
Bitcoin Design Community: https://bitcoin.design/
Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin
WATCH THE SHOW:
https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin
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Haley Berkoe sits down with Mogashni âMoâ Naidoo â UX researcher, designer, and co-founder of the Bitcoin Design Foundation. Mo shares her path into bitcoin design, why developers and designers need each other, and how the foundation supports designers across the ecosystem. She also talks about her UX Research Toolkit, the role of AI in product design, and previews Bitcoin Design Week in San Francisco in September.
CHAPTER HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 Introduction
01:35 The Bitcoin Design Foundation and Bitcoin Design Community, and how both support builders
03:23 Moâs Journey into UX and bitcoin
05:26 Why Developers need designers
06:39 The Bitcoin Design Communityâs projects and impact
07:51 Moâs personal project to unify bitcoin UX research and how she uses AI to build tools
10:47 Bitcoin Design Week September 15â19 at Presidio Bitcoin
14:52 How better design can empower activists, the unbanked, and everyday users
16:50 Exploring AI-powered design tools, including the idea of a âBitcoin Design Sidekickâ
21:38 Ways to contribute time or resources to the Bitcoin Design Foundation
23:57 Closing thoughts
FOLLOW:
Mogashni âMoâ Naidoo: https://x.com/MouxDesign, https://www.linkedin.com/in/mogashninaidoo/
Bitcoin Design Community: https://x.com/bitcoin_design
Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe, https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyberkoe/
Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin, https://www.linkedin.com/company/presidio-bitcoin
LINKS:
Bitcoin Design Week at Presidio Bitcoin: https://event.bitcoin.design/
Bitcoin Design Community: https://bitcoin.design/
Bitcoin Design Foundation: https://bitcoindesignfoundation.org/, https://www.linkedin.com/company/bitcoin-design-foundation/
Bitcoin Design 5 Year Report: https://five.bitcoin.design/
Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin
WATCH THE SHOW:
https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin
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Haley Berkoe talks with Matthew Pines, Executive Director of the Bitcoin Policy Institute, about bitcoinâs growing role in U.S. policy. They cover building a bitcoin community in DC, how policymakers are treating bitcoin as a strategic asset, the risks of quantum computing and AI, and why this moment feels like one of âhigh agency and high leverageâ for bitcoiners.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Introduction to Matt Pines and his path into bitcoin
02:10 The bitcoin scene in Washington DC
03:47 Shifting policy conversations and bitcoin as a strategic asset
05:12 Advice for bitcoiners engaging policymakers
07:06 What a bitcoin standard world could look like
09:08 Quantum computing risks and government response
13:18 Book recommendation: Global Discord by Paul Tucker
15:09 The intersection of bitcoin and AI
18:02 Dream bitcoin projects still missing in the market
19:42 Spicy take: China vs. U.S. bitcoin holdings
20:30 Optimism for bitcoinâs future and ETF adoption
23:24 Final takeaway: the power of agency
25:27 How to follow Matt and the Bitcoin Policy Institute
FOLLOW:
Matthew Pines: https://x.com/matthew_pines
Bitcoin Policy Institute: https://x.com/btcpolicyorg
Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe
Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin
LINKS:
Insights from the Quantum Bitcoin Summit https://presidiobitcoin.substack.com/p/insights-from-the-quantum-bitcoin
Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin
WATCH THE SHOW:
https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin
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Haley Berkoe met with Tadge Dryja, a bitcoin developer, researcher, and co-creator of the Lightning Network. They discussed the importance of preparing for potential threats from quantum computing and Tadgeâs proposed solution, called âLifeboat.â Tadge also dives into how to attract the next generation of developers, the health of the bitcoin ecosystem, dream projects to improve usability and client diversity, and why education is key to bitcoinâs resilience.
CHAPTER HIGHLIGHTS
0:47 â Concerns about complacency despite btcoinâs high price; ongoing challenges with scalability, fees, and post-quantum readiness.
2:22 â Tadge explains his âLifeboatâ commit-reveal scheme for protecting coins if quantum computers become a threat.
5:09 â How quantum computers could break bitcoinâs elliptic curve signatures, why hashes remain safe, and the current likelihood of such attacks.
10:33 â Challenges of bringing new developers into bitcoin, overcoming political stigma, and keeping the community open to diverse participants.
16:21 â Usability improvements like BIP39 support in Bitcoin Core and having multiple full node implementations.
19:23 â Why education matters for both developers and non-developers to build a more resilient Bitcoin network.
FOLLOW:
Tadge Dryja: @tdryja, https://x.com/tdryja
Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe
Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin
LINKS:
Insights from the Quantum Bitcoin Summit https://presidiobitcoin.substack.com/p/insights-from-the-quantum-bitcoin
Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin
WATCH THE SHOW:
https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin
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In this episode, Haley Berkoe chats with Jameson Lopp, longtime bitcoiner, cypherpunk, and Chief Security Officer at Casa, to explore the long-term threats and opportunities facing bitcoin. He discusses his latest bitcoin improvement proposal, how AI can be both a productivity booster and existential risk, and why bitcoin's future hinges on education, sovereignty, and conversation.
CHAPTER HIGHLIGHTS
00:51 Loppâs top of minds: ossification, quantum threats, and protocol evolution.
01:44 An overview of his quantum Bitcoin Improvement Proposal.
06:23 How AI is helping with tooling and security, plus Loppâs caution on the hype.
07:59 Writerâs block and Loppâs creative process.
11:55 Loppâs vision of a sovereign future and concerns about paper bitcoin trends.
15:16 Promoting bitcoin as money without pushing.
16:42 Lopp shares two controversial ideas: cut off quantum-vulnerable coins and use dynamic block sizes.
19:20 What gives him hope, the failures of fiat are bitcoinâs best marketing.
20:17 Donât buy before you learn. Start with education, then stack.
21:47 Why discussion is the key to bitcoinâs long-term success.
FOLLOW:
Jameson Lopp: @lopp, https://x.com/lopp
Casa: @CasaHODL, https://x.com/CasaHODL
Haley Berkoe: https://x.com/HBerkoe
Spiral: @spiralbtc, https://x.com/spiralbtc
Presidio Bitcoin: https://x.com/PresidioBitcoin
LINKS:
Lopp.net
Loppsâ BIP: https://github.com/jlopp/bips/blob/quantum_migration/bip-post-quantum-migration.mediawiki
Bitcoin Plushie: https://www.uncute.com/collections/everything-else/products/here-comes-bitcoin
WATCH THE SHOW:
https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin
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