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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Tom Waterhouse, Managing Partner at Waterhouse VC and fourth-generation bookmaker. This episode was recorded in-person at the SBC Summit Americas in Fort Lauderdale.

    Hear them discuss:

    01:06 – Tom’s family legacy and the founding of tomwaterhouse.com02:13 – Australia’s gambling market and why racing still dominates03:35 – No in-play sports betting and its impact on the industry05:04 – The rise of online racing and round-the-clock global action06:09 – Why turnover tax reshaped the Australian betting ecosystem08:12 – The consequences of pushing out sharp bettors09:20 – The failure of Betfair and betting exchanges under turnover tax10:30 – The case for U.S. federal betting regulation11:28 – The vision for sports betting as a brokerage layer13:10 – Why most bettors aren’t price-sensitive—and how to change that15:01 – Has sports betting has become entertainment, not finance?15:28 – Inside Waterhouse VC’s model: buying options, not equity17:10 – Why options offer asymmetric upside with limited risk19:15 – Waterhouse’s diligence process and market theses22:48 – The fund’s structure, distributions, and public equities strategy24:12 – Following 13F filings from top long-only fund managers28:18 – Using gambling to teach kids probability and decision-making29:33 – Why Tom’s staying in betting: edge, pace, and constant change

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Jesse Learmonth, host of the Betting Startups Podcast, who guest-hosts to interview Jason about his company, Smarkets, and its current efforts to raise $50,000,000 from investors.

    Hear them discuss:

    09:37 - What it means for a company to raise money from investors13:00 - Why Jason is going back to raise capital again for Smarkets14:26 - The difference between raising money from angels vs. institutional investors20:40 - How Jason first raised money to launch Smarkets back in 200823:40 - Jason’s journey from friends & family funding to angel investors26:03 - What it's like pitching to venture capitalists and navigating power dynamics27:20 - Why a profitable company would still raise more capital30:41 - How much Jason is trying to raise in the Series C round33:03 - Smarkets’ interest in the CFTC model and prediction markets34:16 - How they’re thinking about entering new asset classes—build or partner?35:30 - Long-term visions: more funding rounds, IPO, or acquisition?36:45 - How Jason maintains founder stamina after 17 years38:50 - Jason’s personal routines and longevity mindset as a founder

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Katie Bo Lillis, CNN intelligence reporter and author of Death of a Racehorse: An American Story.

    Hear them discuss:

    01:06 – Katie’s rural upbringing and start at the racetrack02:28 – From walking hots to bloodstock reporting in Saratoga03:10 – Thoroughbreds, quarter horses, and racing’s breed confusion04:21 – How horse racing thrives globally in Ireland and Hong Kong05:13 – Racing’s financial dependence on gambling and takeout07:06 – Parimutuel betting, field sizes, and why it still matters08:28 – Why racing can’t build stars like Formula 1 does10:05 – Short careers and shifting allegiances hurt fan engagement12:13 – Flightline and the business logic behind early retirements13:33 – Breeding economics: 200 mares at $250k per stallion15:27 – The rising tension between tradition and modernization19:19 – The central ethical dilemma: horse fatalities and public trust24:06 – Why catastrophic leg injuries mean euthanasia25:59 – Sudden deaths, arrhythmias, and unknown causes28:30 – The Baffert controversy and thyroid drug concerns30:20 – Breakdowns and the real welfare crisis in racing34:50 – Overbreeding from flawed sires: risks to the sport

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  • We're bringing back one of our all-time most popular episodes for a special re-release!

    Originally aired last year, this conversation with Matthew Trenhaile was a fan favorite. Matthew is one of the sharpest minds in the sports betting world, and his insights into exchanges, market making, and the future of the industry are as relevant today as they were then.

    Hear them discuss:

    02:41 – The Smarkets origin story, and why Jason thought an exchange was needed

    08:59 – How Smarkets almost became a social betting platform, and the role that social features play in the exchange experience

    13:30 – The Betfair API, developer ecosystems, and why Smarkets currently operates as a "closed garden" platform

    22:11 – The backstory of how Smarkets came to be its own market maker, and the challenges that came with that

    29:49 – Whether the value proposition of exchanges will ever become broadly appealing to recreational bettors

    37:58 – The allure of pivoting to B2B for exchanges and syndicates

    47:45 – The challenges of offering political betting markets

    52:50 – Trading on Betfair in the early days

    61:25 – What Matthew wants to be when he grows up

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Thomas McGrath, Chief Revenue Officer at TXODDS.

    Hear them discuss:

    01:29 - The founding story of TXODDS and its early product evolution

    02:57 - Jason’s experience using TXODDS as a customer

    04:06 - The role of TXODDS in data origination and live scouting

    05:16 - Addressing historical issues with soft pricing and long-tail market coverage

    06:10 - How TXODDS approaches market coverage and their Fusion feed upgrade

    08:51 - Improvements in user interface and the shift away from Java-based tools

    12:00 - Ethical data collection practices and how TXODDS handles scraping

    12:52 - Thomas’s vision for TXODDS over the next decade

    14:11 - Why TXODDS chose to originate college sports data

    15:30 - Details of their live scouting operations and staff scale-up

    17:39 - Future plans for expanding into other sports

    19:48 - How legacy systems impact the evolution of data services

    21:01 - Thomas’s hopes for the near-term future of the industry

    22:26 - Jason and Thomas on the future of horse racing

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason returns for another Office Hours session, answering listener questions and reflecting on Smarkets’ journey, product-market fit, and the future of U.S. regulation.

    Hear him discuss:

    03:00 – Lessons from building a global trading platform

    04:50 – What Jason would’ve done differently with Smarkets

    08:40 – Why sports betting should be separate from casino

    10:40 – Ethics of limiting sharp bettors

    13:00 – How his leadership style has evolved over time

    16:30 – Why Smarkets won’t pursue the sweepstakes model in the U.S.

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Roger Ehrenberg, founder of Eberg Capital and a seasoned investor with a background in Wall Street and venture capital.

    Hear them discuss:

    05:43 - From Wall Street to sports: Jason’s trading roots and the power of price in investing

    07:06 - Roger’s seed investing strategy: founders, pricing, and the long game in sports

    09:58 - Luck, skill, or timing? Unpacking Roger’s unicorn wins in sports and beyond

    12:32 - High stakes, big rewards: Roger’s concentrated approach to sports investing

    15:00 - Gritty founders in sports: lessons from Jason’s Deliveroo misstep

    17:05 - Spotting sports founders with passion and proven excellence

    21:39 - The psychology of sports founders: predicting resilience in high-pressure moments

    24:09 - Sports as social glue: Roger’s vision for fandom in a fragmented world

    26:22 - Live sports vs. short attention spans: the battle for fan engagement

    29:36 - Emerging sports and gaming: where fandom meets the future

    31:14 - MLB’s turnaround: rule changes and the quest for younger fans

    32:32 - Inside Roger’s sports portfolio: Marlins, Real Salt Lake, and Alpine F1

    37:38 - Sports betting as social currency: tying fans together through wagers

    41:18 - Fixing sports betting’s financial game: why it lags and how to catch up

    43:01 - Navigating chaos: Roger’s advice for sports founders in uncertain times

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Alex Kane, CEO and founder of Sportrade.

    Hear them discuss:

    03:13 - Alex’s balanced take on Trump’s policies, including the Department of Government Efficiency

    07:43 - The evolving world of betting exchanges

    08:33 - Alex on the potential of a CFTC-regulated betting exchange ecosystem

    10:53 - Comparing the U.S. stock market’s competitive venues to betting exchanges

    12:15 - Whether Sportrade is pursuing a DCM/DCO application

    14:33 - How sports betting could mirror the stock market’s infrastructure (ECNs, ATSs, etc.)

    17:54 - Alex envisions two forms of sports betting: exchange-listed and state-regulated

    20:37 - Jason’s skepticism about the CFTC sanctioning sports contracts

    22:41 - Alex argues states have failed to regulate prediction markets fairly

    25:11 - The philosophical difference between gaming and prediction markets

    27:38 - Jason on the political realities blocking fair regulation

    29:19 - Could sports betting fit under the SEC instead of the CFTC?

    31:01 - Alex on the Trump administration’s potential influence on federal regulation

    32:15 - Wrapping up with optimism for the future of prediction markets

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Travis Geiger, the CXO and Co-founder of WagerWire.

    Hear them discuss:

    04:01 - How WagerWire was founded from a real-life betting moment

    05:33 - What WagerWire does and how it creates a secondary market for sports bets

    06:32 - The process of selling a bet through WagerWire

    07:51 - How WagerWire ensures bet validation and handles settlement

    09:10 - How operators react to WagerWire and their incentive to collaborate

    10:06 - The psychology behind cashing out vs. selling a bet

    11:40 - The marketing and viral potential of big betting moments

    12:03 - The legal framework WagerWire operates under

    12:24 - WagerWire’s licensing requirements and regulatory approach

    17:06 - The Starties: a new awards initiative for startup recognition

    18:26 - Challenges for startups in the sports betting industry

    19:08 - Why the industry struggles to foster startup growth

    21:03 - The role of regulation in creating high barriers to entry

    22:33 - Jason’s take on the lack of startup innovation in sports betting

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Greg Wolfe, CEO and co-founder of The Wolfline. Greg, an options trader turned sports betting analytics expert and advocate for consumer protection, shares his unique perspective on the industry.

    Hear them discuss:

    01:32 - How Greg got started in sports betting at just five years old

    02:42 - His journey from betting and bookmaking to options trading

    04:43 - Why he left the financial markets for sports betting analytics

    07:50 - The high-hold, low-volume model in horse racing and its flaws

    10:20 - Why sports betting hasn't modernized like financial markets

    12:18 - Greg’s argument that sports betting contracts should be regulated as securities

    15:40 - Applying the Howey Test to sports betting

    19:50 - Whether sports betting meets the SEC's definition of a security

    26:28 - The regulatory debate: Should the SEC or CFTC oversee sports betting?

    30:20 - The SEC's reluctance to regulate and its impact on sports betting

    32:10 - Consumer protection issues in sports betting and financial markets

    33:50 - Data latency, front-running, and how sportsbooks exploit bettors

    34:50 - Why Greg believes the leagues act as issuers of sports betting contracts

    35:40 - Where to find Greg and his parting thoughts on industry ethics

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting podcast, Jason is joined by Manuel Stan, CEO of Catena Media.

    Hear them discuss:

    01:01 - Manuel’s journey to Las Vegas and what it’s like calling it home

    03:07 - An overview of what Catena Media does and its role in the sports betting ecosystem

    04:03 - How shifts in the U.S. market are impacting Catena Media’s business

    07:21 - How affiliates are evolving and why engagement is becoming more important

    08:00 - Why Catena Media doesn’t operate its own sportsbook

    09:31 - The challenges of being a publicly listed company

    12:28 - Catena Media’s turnaround strategy under Manuel’s leadership

    13:30 - Why Catena Media pulled back from a joint AI initiative

    15:20 - The long-term viability of CPA models in the U.S. market

    16:49 - Jason’s take on affiliates and their role in customer acquisition

    20:38 - The balance between product quality and marketing investment

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Mark Phillip, CEO and founder of MetaBet and Are You Watching This?!

    Hear them discuss:

    01:03 - Mark’s take on life in Austin, Texas—Is it worth the hype?

    06:30 - The changing landscape of sports media and viewership habits

    08:20 - Will younger generations maintain the same level of passion for sports?

    09:56 - How sports leagues are adapting to shorter attention spans

    14:00 - Why finding where to watch your favorite sports is becoming increasingly difficult

    16:15 - The need for better curation in sports broadcasting

    19:09 - The challenge of making sports betting odds more user-friendly

    21:23 - How sportsbooks can become more engaging for casual fans

    24:30 - The opportunity for sportsbooks to differentiate with a fan-centric approach

    25:00 - How MetaBet is making sports betting more accessible and engaging

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Captain Jack Andrews, Co-Founder of Unabated.

    Hear them discuss:

    02:20 - How Captain Jack's first trip to Las Vegas ignited his passion for gambling

    06:10 - His advocacy for fairness in sports betting inspired by personal experiences with limitations

    07:40 - Why he believes sports betting offers more edges than card counting

    11:20 - Reflections on missed opportunities to influence early sports betting legislation

    15:20 - How politics delayed New Jersey's sports betting legalization in 1994

    19:10 - The importance of transparency regarding the house edge in sports betting

    23:10 - Whether sports betting is a game of skill or chance

    27:40 - The role of greed in the sustainability of the sports betting industry

    29:10 - Captain Jack’s work with Unabated

    35:40 - His experience in being on Masterclass

    43:10 - Thoughts about exchanges becoming the future infrastructure of sports betting

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Steven Salz, Co-Founder and CEO of Rivalry, a Canadian company focused on serving a new generation of bettors with a mix of eSports, traditional sports, and gaming products.

    Hear them discuss:

    01:53 - Steven’s view on Canada’s current state, including challenges in healthcare and housing

    02:10 - The cost of living in Canada and its impact on citizens

    10:49 - Why Rivalry avoided an RTO and opted for a direct listing

    20:05 - The struggles of managing a public company on quarterly reporting cycles

    26:40 - Rivalry’s transformation to prioritize profitability and player KPIs

    30:30 - The benefits of using crypto as a payment processor in the gambling industry

    33:40 - How blockchain analysis tools help Rivalry ensure compliance with crypto transactions

    34:40 - Why fiat regulations make payment processing more frustrating than crypto

    28:40 - Rivalry's innovative approach to catering to a younger, internet-native demographic

    30:47 - The challenges and lessons of building Rivalry's tech from scratch

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason hosts an office hours session to kick off 2025.

    Hear him discuss:

    03:40 - DraftKings’ latest attempt to monetize through subscription fees and his perspective on the move

    05:30 - Bet365’s impressive revenue growth and its controversial market practices

    08:50 - Reflections on the U.S. election results and expectations for Trump’s new administration

    14:30 - Jason's New Year’s resolutions, including healthier habits and reduced screen time

    16:30 - Predictions for the sports betting industry in 2025

    Tune in to hear Jason’s candid insights and plans for the year ahead!

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Adam Krejcik, co-founder and partner at Eilers & Krejcik Gaming.

    Hear them discuss:

    00:50 - How Adam's company name creates lasting impressions

    03:20 - The services Eilers & Krejcik Gaming provides and their value to stakeholders

    07:16 - Adam’s background and his path into the gaming industry

    08:50 - The evolving culture of gaming and sports betting in California

    12:10 - Challenges and opportunities in regulating gaming in California

    15:00 - The proposition system in California and why sports betting legalization efforts have failed

    19:10 - A comparison of regulatory environments in California and Texas

    21:50 - The rise of sweepstakes gaming and its implications for the industry

    24:20 - Advice for entrepreneurs aiming to enter the U.S. sports betting market

    26:50 - The potential for disruption in the U.S. sports betting landscape

    29:00 - Adam’s reflections on the current market leaders and their growth trajectory

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Nigel Eccles, founder of BetHog and co-founder of FanDuel.

    Hear them discuss:

    3:11 - Why the UK startup scene struggles to compete with the US.

    8:23 - Founding FanDuel and the challenges of building a billion-dollar company.

    14:27 - Why Nigel stayed in the US and the entrepreneurial energy it offers.

    21:00 - Raising massive funding rounds at FanDuel and what it taught him.

    38:50 - The FanDuel sale to Flutter and why it wasn’t a win for everyone involved.

    42:00 - Nigel’s journey after FanDuel, including launching various ventures before BetHog.

    47:20 - Reflections on working with a spouse and how it shaped FanDuel's growth.

    53:15 - Why BetHog is Nigel’s next big bet and how it’s making sports betting more social.

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Jeff Ifrah, Founding & Managing Partner at Ifrah Law.

    Hear them discuss:

    01:30 - Jeff’s reaction to U.S. midterm results and their impact on sports betting.

    02:13 - Insights into New Jersey legislation and the issue of "skins."

    04:00 - Balancing political realities with free-market ideals in regulation.

    07:00 - Legal takes on sweepstakes models and their viability.

    09:20 - Why regulators are slow to act on sweepstakes issues.

    15:18 - Challenges for small operators in markets dominated by giants.

    18:40 - Comparing the U.K. gaming model to the U.S. system.

    21:00 - Polymarket and Kalshi: Contrasting legal paths for event markets.

    30:20 - The current state of using cryptocurrency in U.S. sports betting.

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by Rob Davies, COO of PowerPlay.

    Hear them discuss:

    01:00 - Rob’s unique background in philosophy and his PhD on religious toleration

    02:15 - Why Rob will always be a Bolton Wanderers fan, no matter what!

    03:00 - The importance of accepting fallibility in business and decision-making

    06:10 - How Rob transitioned from academia to the betting industry through William Hill

    08:40 - Rob and Jason laugh about always being surprised by the “butler” in mystery plots

    10:00 - How Rob’s perspective on the morality of gambling has changed over time

    13:47 - What is “palpable error,” and how PowerPlay handles it transparently

    15:22 - Jason tests Rob’s philosophy background with a counter-case on bet repricing ethics

    20:47 - Why not build PowerPlay on top of an exchange model? Rob shares his insights

    24:20 - Rob’s advice for startups: the importance of customer service and query resolution

    28:10 - The rise of offshore and crypto casinos and their impact on regulated operators

    32:18 - Rob’s reflections on his career and aspirations for the future

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  • On this episode of the Business of Betting Podcast, Jason is joined by writer, David Hill to discuss his Rolling Stone feature - "Is the $11 Billion Online Sportsbook Bubble About to Burst?"

    Hear them discuss:

    00:51 - David's transition from a union organizer to becoming a writer and how it shaped his immersive storytelling approach.

    07:30 - David's upbringing in Hot Springs, Arkansas, a historic gambling hub, and its influence on his interest in gambling.

    09:00 - The morality of gambling, societal parallels with alcohol, and reflections on how gambling's perception has evolved.

    12:15 - The intertwining history of gambling and sports, including how gambling shaped early sports in America.

    15:10 - The industry's current technological challenges, perceived stagnation, and its pricing inefficiencies.

    20:30 - The debate around sports betting’s sustainability, public perception, and parallels with other industries.

    30:20 - The societal costs of gambling addiction and the industry's responsibility in addressing problem gambling.

    37:40 - Broader societal issues, including the impact of social media, and Jason's reflections on the parallels with sports betting.

    41:10 - What’s next for David Hill after this in-depth exploration of the gambling industry.

    Read David's Rolling Stone feature here - Is the $11 Billion Online Sportsbook Bubble About to Burst?

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