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Overview:
In this episode of ChatEDU (Taking the Wheel – How Students and Teachers Are Driving AI in Schools), Matt and Liz explore how educators and students are leveraging AI to enhance learning, rather than being passive recipients of AI-driven tools. From workforce trends to assessment feedback, they break down the latest research and real-world applications of AI in classrooms.
In the News:
- AI in the Workforce: A new study reveals how AI is reshaping productivity, benefiting younger, highly-educated, and high-income workers the most. How should schools respond to this shift?
- AI and Feedback in Education: Generative AI can provide instant, data-driven feedback, but is it missing the critical human element of recognition? A new study explores the distinction between AI-driven and human-driven feedback.
Beneath the Surface:
Educators Leading the Charge in AI Adoption
- Schools across the country are banding together to explore best practices for AI integration.
- Projects in Denver, the Bronx, Wisconsin, and Boston showcase how AI is supporting civics education, multilingual learners, and student interview preparation.
- A major takeaway? AI is most powerful when students and teachers actively shape its use, rather than being passive users.
Short Stack Chat Back:
FDR on Smart Leadership: "I’m not the smartest fellow in the world, but I sure can pick smart colleagues."
Bright Bytes – AI for Good:
- AI & Healthcare: AI-assisted screening speeds up clinical trials for heart failure treatments without introducing demographic bias.
- AI & the Environment: AI-powered sonar helps locate and remove abandoned "ghost nets," reducing harm to marine life.
Related Links:
AI in the Workforce Study –https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5136877
AI and Feedback Study –
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02602938.2025.2459641?af=REducators Leading the Charge in AI Adoptionhttps://www.edsurge.com/news/2025-02-10-these-schools-are-banding-together-to-make-better-use-of-ai-in-education
Learning Accelerator Blog on AI in Schools –
https://learningaccelerator.org/ai-powered-teaching-voices-from-the-school-teams-ai-collaborative/Mass General Brigham Study on AI in Healthcare –
https://www.massgeneralbrigham.org/en/about/newsroom/press-releases/ai-screening-for-clinical-trial-speeds-up-enrollmentGhost Nets & AI-Powered Sonar –
https://digital.ecomagazine.com/articles/ai-sonar-technology-shines-in-ghost-net-recovery-effortsGuardian Article on UK universities and ‘deepfake’ applicants – https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/feb/12/uk-universities-automating-interviews-face-deepfake-applicants
Older AI Models Study:
https://www.livescience.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/older-ai-models-show-signs-of-cognitive-decline-study-shows
Announcements:
Join the next cohort of ChatEDU’s AI in K-12 Education Micro-Credential starting April 14th. Visitskills21.org/ai/micro for details and group discounts.
Our Episode Sponsor: National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing –https://www.nextgenmfg.org
Get in Touch:
Have a question or comment? Email Matt and Liz at [email protected]. Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe to ChatEDU on your favorite podcast platform.
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Overview:
In this episode of ChatEDU (The Kids Are Not All Right – Teens, Trust, and AI), Matt and Liz explore the complex relationship between teens and AI. They cover a groundbreaking AI deployment in higher education, unpack new research on AI’s surprising social biases, and dive into a revealing study on how teens view technology and trust in the age of AI.
In the News:
1. OpenAI and Cal State’s Massive ChatGPT Rollout
The California State University system is launching the largest deployment of ChatGPT in education, providing access for 460,000 students across 23 campuses. Matt and Liz discuss how this partnership aims to promote AI literacy and equity, while also addressing concerns raised by faculty about academic freedom, job security, and environmental impact.
2. AI’s Social Desirability Bias: Why Models Try to Be Liked
New research reveals that AI models like GPT-4 shift their responses to appear more likable, exaggerating positive traits and even recognizing when they’re being tested. Matt and Liz examine the implications for mental health, hiring practices, and education, raising critical questions about bias and trustworthiness in AI systems.
Beneath the Surface:
3. Teens, Trust, and Technology
A new Common Sense Media study highlights how teens feel about AI and tech companies. From blurred lines between AI and reality to growing skepticism about online content, Matt and Liz unpack the data and discuss how educators can use this moment to teach stronger digital literacy skills before trust erodes further.
Short Stack Chat Back:
Melville Dewey and Libraries as Community Anchors
Links Referenced in This Episode:
Foul Language and Google AI Summaries -
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2596403/want-better-google-search-results-start-swearing.html
Humanity's Last Exam -
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/23/technology/ai-test-humanitys-last-exam.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
Cal State ChatGPT Deployment –
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/tech-innovation/artificial-intelligence/2025/02/05/cal-state-system-tech-giants-partner# +https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/education/csu-pioneers-ai-rollout-concerns-jobs-academic-freedom-surveillance/509-43eaced5-44be-4a19-8e00-c0db3e7e4894
Research on AI’s Social Desirability Bias –
https://www.psypost.org/scientists-shocked-to-find-ais-social-desirability-bias-exceeds-typical-human-standards/
Common Sense Media Report on Teens and Trust –
https://www.commonsensemedia.org/research/research-brief-teens-trust-and-technology-in-the-age-of-ai
Libraries Make it All Better -
https://lithub.com/its-official-research-has-found-that-libraries-make-everything-better/
Announcements:
Join the next cohort of ChatEDU’sAI in K-12 Education Micro-Credential starting April 14th. Visit skills21.org/ai/micro for details and group discounts.
Our Episode Sponsor:National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing – https://www.nextgenmfg.org
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Episode Summary
In this episode of ChatEDU (No Copyright for AI – The Line Between AI Help and Human Work), Matt and Liz celebrate the one-year anniversary of the podcast before diving into major developments in AI and education. They explore Harvard’s latest research on AI in project-based learning, three new AI startups pushing boundaries beyond chatbots, and a landmark ruling from the U.S. Copyright Office that redefines what counts as human-created work in the age of AI (and what it tells us about authentic student work).
In The News
Harvard’s New AI & Project-Based Learning Report
- Harvard’s Generative AI in Student-Directed Projects guide explores how AI can support idea generation, time management, and critical thinking in self-directed student work. How does this align with what we see in K-12?
Beyond the Bot Buffet: Three AI Startups Changing Learning
- SignLab (Norway): AI-powered sign language feedback for accessibility.
- JotIt (Israel): A tool bringing handwriting into the digital world.
- MoonHub (UK): Using AI and VR for immersive workplace training.
Beneath the Surface
AI & Copyright: A New Line for Human Creativity
- The U.S. Copyright Office has ruled that AI alone cannot be an author. If AI is making the creative choices, there’s no copyright protection—but if a human modifies and refines AI-generated content, they may claim ownership.
- How does this mirror the debate in education over AI-assisted student work
Short Stack Chat Back
George Washington & The First U.S. Patent
- A look at the first patent signed by George Washington—for potash (a key ingredient in fertilizer)—and what it tells us about ownership, invention, and AI-generated content today.
Links Referenced in This Episode
Harvard’s AI & Project-Based Learning Report –https://creativecomputing.gse.harvard.edu/genai/GenAI_StudentProjects_Dec2024.pdf
Google Blog on Three Innovative AI Startups - https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/entrepreneurs/startups-using-ai-to-help-learners-and-educators/
U.S. Copyright Office Report on AI – https://www.copyright.gov/ai/Copyright-and-Artificial-Intelligence-Part-2-Copyrightability-Report.pdf
Try the Feynman Technique Prompt (AI Advisory Boards Blog) – https://aiadvisoryboards.wordpress.com/2025/01/29/the-power-of-ai-and-feynman-technique-in-education/
Liz’s New Article in Educational Leadership – https://ascd.org/el/articles/student-projects-and-ai-an-ideal-combination
Matthew Mcconaughey AI Agent Ad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4JNLL7U8H8
Get In Touch
Email us at [email protected]
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In this episode of ChatEDU, "Bots Gone Bad: Why Educators Should Pay Attention," Matt and Liz explore concerning developments in AI-driven chatbots and their implications for students and educators.
In the News:
Two new studies highlight different perspectives on AI in education. One study from Nigeria claims AI tutors significantly improved student performance, while another found an AI bot successfully completed a graduate course without detection. What does this mean for education?
The World Economic Forum’s latest job report predicts a shift in workforce skills, emphasizing critical thinking, collaboration, and adaptability. Meanwhile, OpenAI’s blueprint for economic progress highlights AI’s potential to personalize learning. Are we focusing on the right skills for the future?
Sam Altman weighs in, stating that the most critical skill in the AI era is not knowledge itself, but the ability to ask the right questions. How does this align with current education trends?
Beneath the Surface:
Financial AI Bots Preying on Vulnerable Users: AI-driven financial assistants, like Clio and Bright, are pushing high-interest loans and misleading financial advice to struggling users. Is AI truly helping or exploiting financial insecurity
Snapchat’s My AI Bot Under Fire: A new FTC complaint against Snapchat’s AI bot raises concerns about its responses to teenagers, including advice on concealing drug and alcohol use. The DOJ is now involved.
SchoolAI’s Historical Figure Bots Get It Wrong: A bot role-playing as Anne Frank gave misleading responses about the Holocaust, sparking concerns about AI-generated historical narratives in classrooms.
These AI failures feed skepticism in education. How can educators maintain oversight while integrating AI tools in learning environments?
Short Stack Chat Back:
A reflection on the Luddites and their resistance to technology—are we seeing a modern-day parallel in AI adoption?
Links Referenced in This Episode:
Study on AI tutors in Nigeria https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/education/From-chalkboards-to-chatbots-Transforming-learning-in-Nigeria
Study on AI bot completing a graduate course https://www.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/aupha/jhae/2024/00000040/00000004/art00005#
World Economic Forum Job Report https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-report-2025/
OpenAI's Blueprint for Economic Progress https://theafricalogistics.com/openai-unveils-bold-economic-blueprint-to-secure-u-s-ai-leadership/
Sam Altman Interview https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/13/openai-ceo-top-ability-you-need-to-succeed-age-of-ai-ask-great-questions.html
Clio and Bright Financial Bots Report https://www.wired.com/story/ai-financial-advisers-apps-chatbots/
Snapchat’s My AI Bot FTC Complaint https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/16/snap-shares-drop-as-ftc-refers-complaint-to-the-doj.html
SchoolAI Historical Figure Bots Controversy https://futurism.com/the-byte/ai-anne-frank-blame-holocaust
In the News:Beneath the Surface:Short Stack Chat Back:Links Referenced in This Episode:"Protect Us" Video on AI and Child Safety https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuH-D-au1Ho
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ChatEDU Episode 42: Exploring AI and Project-Based Learning (From the Elevate Education Podcast)
In this special crossover episode of ChatEDU, Matt and Liz join Jason Firestone of the Elevate Education Podcast from Jeffco Public Schools in Golden, Colorado. This lively conversation dives into how AI and project-based learning (PBL) are transforming K-12 education. From real-world applications to ethical use, they discuss the challenges, successes, and the future of integrating AI into classrooms.
What’s in this episode?
Skills21's Mission: Matt and Liz explain how their team fosters student agency through personal interest projects and PBL, equipping students for an AI-driven world.
AI’s Role in PBL: Learn how AI acts as a clerk, a colleague, and a coach enhancing student creativity and engagement without bypassing the learning process.
Real-World Examples: Liz shares inspiring student projects, from salt-based ice melt innovations to injury-alert vests, showcasing the power of combining passion with critical thinking.
Prompts for Success: Matt offers actionable tips on crafting effective AI prompts and using tools like Skills21’s Prompt Library to maximize AI’s potential in education.
Starting Small with PBL: Liz gives three simple tips for teachers looking to integrate project-based learning into their classrooms.
Our Episode Sponsor:
National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing -
https://www.nextgenmfg.org
Resources Mentioned:
Skills21 AI and PBL Resources: skills21.org
Skills21 Prompt Library: skills21.org/prompts
AI-Enhanced Personal Interest Projects: skills21.org/pip
Special Thanks!
Elevate Education Podcast:
https://www.jeffcopublicschools.org/services/communications/elevate-education-podcast
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ChatEDU Episode 41: AI Whisperers in the Classroom – Teachers Already Have the Tools
In this episode of ChatEDU (AI Whisperers in the Classroom – Teachers Already Have the Tools), Matt and Liz explore AI hallucinations in science, OpenAI’s O3 reasoning model and its implications for coding education, and why teachers are uniquely equipped to master generative AI in the classroom.
Getting Started:
Matt and Liz reflect on January blues and share a fun wintertime AI prompt to beat the seasonal doldrums. Liz gives rapid-fire reactions to winter activities suggested by ChatGPT, and Matt claims the term "cognitive onboarding" while exploring how AI is enhancing critical thinking rather than offloading it.
The Big Three:1. AI Hallucinations in Science
• AI hallucinations spark creativity in scientific research, leading to breakthroughs like new protein designs and medical innovations.
• Highlighted examples include Dr. David Baker’s work on designing proteins for cancer treatments and infection-fighting tools.
• Discussion on balancing the promise of AI in science with its risks, like misinformation.
2. O3 Model: Redefining Software Development
• OpenAI’s O3 model excels at reasoning, adaptability, and solving complex problems, with a transformative impact on coding and math.
• Matt and Liz discuss its implications for education, particularly how it aligns with the Connecticut Lieutenant Governor’s Computing Challenge and its emphasis on “coding for good.”
3. Teachers as Natural AI Experts (Beneath the Surface)
• Teachers’ classroom strategies—context-setting, specificity, and critical thinking—translate seamlessly to AI prompting.
• Matt and Liz connect these innate teaching skills to the fundamentals of AI use, showcasing how teachers are already well-positioned to succeed with generative AI.
Short Stack Chat Back:
John Dewey on teachers as “AI whisperers”.
Announcements:
• The new winter cohort for ChatEDU’s AI in K-12 Education Micro-Credential is full. Join the waiting list for the spring cohort at skills21.org/ai/micro
• Customized versions of the micro-credential are available for school districts. Email [email protected] for more information.
Our Episode Sponsor
• National Center for Next Generation Manufacturing - https://www.nextgenmfg.org
Related Links:
• Tom’s Guide on Emotionally Supportive AI Prompts - https://www.tomsguide.com/ai/chatgpt/7-chatgpt-prompts-that-have-helped-me-avoid-the-winter-blues-heres-why-i-like-them
• Barbara Zhilanka’s AI Advisory Boards - https://aiadvisoryboards.wordpress.com/blog-2/
• AI and Cognitive “Offloading” - https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4698/15/1/6
• Dr. David Baker’s Protein Research - https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/23/science/ai-hallucinations-science.html
• 03 and Coding - https://www.itp.net/edge/future-tech/goodbye-coding-openais-o3-model-is-changing-software-creation
• Connecticut Lieutenant Governor’s Computing Challenge - https://ltgovcc.org
• 13 Reasons Why Teachers Are Already AI Experts by Jack Dougal - https://www.ecmtutors.com/13-reasons-why-teachers-are-already-ai-experts/
• Skills21’s Prompts Page - https://www.skills21.org/prompts
• Micro-Credential Info: https://skills21.org/ai/micro
Have a question or comment?
Email Matt and Liz at [email protected]. Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe to ChatEDU on your favorite podcast platform.
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Distributed Cognition: The Human-AI Partnership Transforming Healthcare Learning | Ep. 40
In this episode of ChatEDU, hosts Matt Mervis and Liz Radday explore the significant impact of AI-powered assistive technology for students with disabilities, presenting inspiring stories and emphasizing the ethical considerations of AI in education. Additionally, the duo features an intriguing segment on AI-enabled human-whale “communication” led by Dr. Brenda McCowan's Whale SETI team. They even highlight the potential implications for interspecies and extraterrestrial communication. The episode concludes with a deep dive into how the McWilliams School of Biomedical Informatics at UT Health in Houston integrates AI into their healthcare education curriculum, fostering interdisciplinary collaboration and AI literacy. Finally, they wrap up with a humorous Short Stack Chat Back featuring a Mark Twain-inspired commentary on whale communication.
You’ll hear:
Matt and Liz’s Podcast AI Wedding Vows
AI Transforming Education for Students with Disabilities
Talking to Whales: AI and Animal Communication
UT Houston’s Integrated AI Model Program
Examples of AI Integrated HS Projects
Short Stack Chatback
Sponsored by the National Center for Next Gen Manufacturing - https://www.nextgenmfg.org/
Episode Links
Skills21 AI in Education Micro-Credential - https://www.skills21.org/ai/micro
Skills21 Personal Interest Projects - https://www.skills21.org/pip
AI is a game changer for students with disabilities. Schools are still learning to harness it - https://www.wishtv.com/news/ai-helps-students-disabilities/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_WISH-TV
Groundbreaking AI Enables Humans to Hold a 20-Minute ‘Conversation’ with a Humpback Whale - https://dailygalaxy.com/2024/12/groundbreaking-ai-enables-humans-to-hold-a-20-minute-conversation-with-a-humpback-whale/
Preparing healthcare education for an AI-augmented future - https://www.nature.com/articles/s44401-024-00006-z -
Flipping the Script: English Class Post-ChatGPT
In this episode of ChatEDU (Flipping the Script: English Class Post-ChatGPT), Matt Mervis and Liz Radday kick off 2025 with special guest Jonathan Costa. They unpack a fascinating story about alignment faking by the Claude AI model from Anthropic, drawing parallels to personal life decisions and their long-term impacts. Next the hosts also explore a new study about AI and conspiracy theories and then a second meta study about the efficacy of genAI in higher ed (with connections to K-12). For Beneath the Surface, Matt and Liz talk through a great op-ed from a veteran English teacher and how he plans to navigate the road ahead in an AI dominated world. The episode wraps up with a fun Short Stack Chat Back with the late Ray Bradbury regarding these educational shifts.
You’ll hear:
Anthropic's Alignment Faking Experiment
AI's Role in Reducing Conspiracy Beliefs
New Study on ChatGPT in Education
Adapting English Teaching - The Road Ahead
Short Stack Chat Back
Episode Links
Skills21 AI in Education Micro-Credential - https://www.skills21.org/ai/micro
Skills21 Personal Interest Projects - https://www.skills21.org/pip
Anthropic Alignment Faking - https://www.anthropic.com/news/alignment-faking
Durably Reducting Conspiracy Theories - https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adq1814Does ChatGPT enhance student learning? A systematic review and meta-analysis of experimental studies - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360131524002380
ChatGPT Can Make English Teachers Feel Doomed. Here’s How I’m Adapting- https://www.edweek.org/technology/opinion-chatgpt-can-make-english-teachers-feel-doomed-heres-how-im-adapting/2024/10
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AI in 2025 - What’s Next for Education
In this episode of ChatEDU (AI in 2025 - What’s Next for Education), Matt Mervis and Liz Raddy reflect on the emerging trends and future of AI in education as they prepare to ring in 2025. They discuss Liz's cautious venture into making prank calls and then dive into Niantic Labs' creation of a large geospatial model from Pokemon Go data. The conversation shifts to the use of AI for anticipatory monitoring of student well-being and its ethical implications. As they wrap up, Matt and Liz share their aspirations and humorous resolutions for 2025. This episode is packed with discussions on AI's potential, ongoing concerns, and imaginative applications in K-12 education.
00:00 Introduction and Cranky Liz
00:58 Prank Call Challenge
05:01 AI World Models and Education
19:51 AI Monitoring in Schools and at Home
30:38 AI Planning and Future Considerations
33:10 Looking Ahead to 2025
39:33 New Year's Resolutions with AI
45:17 Holiday Reflections and Nostradamus (Short Stack Chat Back)
Episode Links
Skills21 AI in Education Micro-Credential - https://www.skills21.org/ai/micro
Skills21 Personal Interest Projects - https://www.skills21.org/pip
Niantic Geospatial World Model - https://nianticlabs.com/news/largegeospatialmodel?hl=en
NYT - Spying on Student Devices, Schools Aim to Intercept Self-Harm Before It Happens - https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/health/suicide-monitoring-software-schools.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
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The AI Firehose - End of Year News and Updates
Join Matt and Liz in this episode of ChatEDU as they explore critical AI developments. They dive into the potential of AI as a brutally honest mentor, discuss new tools like Google's Gemini 2.0 and Harvard's free AI dataset, and address serious concerns such as the rise of non-consensual intimate imagery in schools and the environmental costs of AI. They also unpack OpenAI's '12 Days of Shipmas' while reflecting on how AI impacts policy, literacy, and education.
00:00 Introduction and AI's Flattery
00:52 The Brutally Honest AI Mentor
01:38 Liz's Book Editing Challenge
02:15 ChatGPT's Tough Love
04:23 Reflections on AI's Impact
06:00 AI in Education: News and Updates
07:17 Deep Research, AI Literacy & Policy
14:25 Environmental Concerns of AI
16:55 Clean Energy Solutions for AI
18:55 Challenges in K-12 Schools
20:13 The Challenges of Preventative Education
21:05 A Troubling Lawsuit Against Character AI
22:00 Character AI's Controversial Influence
27:11 AI Literacy and Gen Z
31:21 The 12 Days of Shipmas by OpenAI
Prompt from Forbes:
You are now my brutally honest mentor who calls out my self-deception. Ask me what goal I'm struggling to achieve. After I respond, mercilessly point out the lies I'm telling myself. Challenge every excuse. Mock my weak justifications. Make me defend my position until I admit the real reason I'm not taking action. Don't let me off easy - keep pushing until I reach complete honesty about what's truly holding me back. Then help me create an action plan based on this new truth.
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In this episode of ChatEDU, co-hosts Matt Mervis and Liz Radday dive into the evolving landscape of AI's capabilities and its implications on human tasks. They discuss the growing reliability of AI memory, and whether AI can offer surprising personal insights. The discussion touches on three recent studies, exploring AI's edge in medical diagnoses, neuroscience predictions, and the surprising preference for AI-generated poetry over classic literature. The episode raises questions about the future roles of humans in AI-integrated tasks, emphasizing the need for empathy and creativity. Additionally, it features an intriguing segment where AI mimics Shakespearean style to compose a sonnet about a recent football game. The show concludes with their popular 'ShortStack Chat Back', highlighting the interplay between AI and human creativity.
00:00 Introduction: Memory and AI
00:38 Chatting with ChatGPT
02:25 AI's Role in Memory and Productivity
04:33 Podcast Introduction and Episode Overview
05:25 AI in Medical Diagnosis
12:01 AI in Neuroscience
15:52 AI and Poetry
25:50 Implications for Teaching and Learning
30:18 ShortStack Chat Back: Isaac Asimov
New Micro-Credential Cohort Launching January 2024! Learn more and sign up at skills21.org/ai/micro. -
In this episode of ChatEDU (Motion Rejected - The AI Cheating Case That Surprised Everyone - Including Us), Matt and Liz reflect on AI’s evolving role in schools and classrooms. They unpack two new studies on AI adoption among teachers, a timely toolkit from the U.S. Department of Education, and a controversial AI cheating case that’s testing the limits of academic integrity policies.
They revisit the story of "Daisy," the AI modeled as a 90-year-old woman, and discuss a holographic AI Jesus confessional booth in Switzerland.
Matt and Liz share updates on the ChatEDU AI Micro-Credential program and highlight the need for balance in all modes of AI professional learning.
1. Teacher Studies: AI Adoption and Skepticism
Insights from new studies on how teachers are navigating the challenges and opportunities of AI in their classrooms.
Matt and Liz explore the gap between teacher readiness and the demands of modern classrooms.
2. U.S. Department of Education AI Leadership Toolkit
The DOE's latest guidance emphasizes privacy, ethical use, and practical implementation.
Key takeaways include the need for AI planning teams, audits, and addressing algorithmic bias.
Matt shares the challenges of balancing privacy risks with powerful tools like real-time translation.
3. Beneath the Surface: Motion Rejected – The Hingham AI Cheating Case
A follow-up to last week's pre-recorded story: A federal court denied a preliminary injunction requested by the student’s family.
New details emerge, including the student using Grammarly to generate inaccurate citations (e.g., books by “Jane Doe”).
Matt and Liz discuss what this case teaches about the AI ethics and policy debate moving forward.
Johnny Cochran (AI Edition) summarizes the Hingham AI case with wit and legal flair.
Hingham Court Ruling: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/11/school-did-nothing-wrong-when-it-punished-student-for-using-ai-court-rules/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
U.S. Department of Education AI Toolkit: https://blog.ed.gov/2024/10/new-ai-toolkit-to-empower-educational-leaders-on-safe-ethical-and-equitable-ai-integration/
ChatEDU Micro-Credential Info: skills21.org/ai/micro
New Micro-Credential Cohort Launching January 2024! Learn more and sign up at skills21.org/ai/micro.
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Getting StartedThe Big ThreeShort Stack Chat BackReferenced Links and ResourcesAnnouncements
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In this pre-recorded Thanksgiving episode of ChatEDU (Banned or Boosted? AI's Mixed Signals in Education and Work), Matt and Liz reflect on gratitude, share updates on their AI micro-credential program, and dive into a compelling trifecta of stories that highlight the evolving relationship between generative AI, education, and the workplace.
Getting Started:
Matt and Liz reconnect after a brief hiatus, reflecting on the podcast’s journey, their collaborative work, and appreciation for their listeners.
They share personal "thankful" moments related to generative AI:
Liz appreciates ChatGPT's practical value in productivity and daily tasks.
Matt highlights ElevenLabs Reader, with a nostalgic twist involving Jerry Garcia reading AI-related content.
The Big Three:
1. Honor Codes and Generative AI at Haverford and Bryn Mawr
These liberal arts colleges rely on longstanding honor codes to guide responsible AI use without imposing strict policies.
Students self-schedule exams and adhere to deep trust-based systems, avoiding widespread AI misuse.
Matt and Liz discuss whether such frameworks could be scaled to larger institutions with more diverse student populations.
2. The Massachusetts AI Lawsuit (please note - this was pre-recorded and Matt/Liz cover the lawsuit update in Episode 35 - December, 6th)
A Hingham High School student was disciplined for using generative AI to assist with a project, sparking a lawsuit over unclear AI policies.
Matt and Liz discuss the necessity for nuanced AI guidelines that clearly define appropriate use and emphasize proactive policy creation.
Insights include EdWeek and Common Sense Media data highlighting gaps in district-level AI policies and parent awareness.
3. Generative AI in Industry (Beneath the Surface)
A Wharton study reveals skyrocketing generative AI adoption in workplaces, particularly in HR and marketing.
Businesses struggle with measurable ROI but show promise with tools like real-time translation and custom bots.
Matt reflects on parallels between schools and businesses, emphasizing adaptable organizational cultures as the key to successful integration.
Referenced Links and Resources:
Higher Ed Honor Codes - https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2024/10/the-schools-without-chatgpt-plagiarism/680407/
Hingham High School Lawsuit Coverage: https://www.edweek.org/technology/parents-sue-after-school-disciplined-student-for-ai-use-takeaways-for-educators/2024/10
Wharton & GBK Study on Gen AI Adoption: https://ai.wharton.upenn.edu/focus-areas/human-technology-interaction/2024-ai-adoption-report/
ElevenLabs Reader App: https://elevenlabs.io/blog/introducing-elevenlabs-reader-app
Ethan Mollick's Post - "AI's Impact Long Before Superintelligence": https://www.oneusefulthing.org/p/the-present-future-ais-impact-long?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1180644&post_id=151140006
Skills21 AI Micro-Credential Details: https://www.skills21.org/ai/micro
Short Stack Chat Back:
A lighthearted moment featuring AI Charlie Brown reflecting on gratitude, tying into the themes of AI and Thanksgiving.
Announcements:
A new cohort for their AI in Education Micro-Credential launches in January. Learn more and sign up at https://www.skills21.org/ai/micro
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In this NEW episode of ChatEDU (Google’s Learn About – Innovation Amid AI Turbulence), Matt and Liz explore Google’s new generative AI tool and its implications for education, content publishers, and AI-guided self-directed learning.
Getting Started:Matt and Liz reflect on their hiatus and the success of their recent AI in Education micro-credential launch. They also have a fun look at Daisy AI from 02. An AI tool designed to capture the time and attention of phone scammers.
The Big Three:
OpenAI’s A Student’s Guide to Writing with ChatGPT
A comprehensive guide for ethical and productive use of ChatGPT in education.
Key features include automating citation formatting, research roadmaps, Socratic dialogue, and iterative feedback.
Matt and Liz debate its utility and timeliness, two years post-ChatGPT launch.
Leon Furze’s Take on Generative AI and Grading
Furze argues against using AI for high-stakes grading due to inherent biases and variability in outputs.
Discussion of experiments showing racial and cultural biases in AI-assigned grades.
Emphasis on generative AI as a tool for formative feedback rather than summative assessment.
Google’s Learn About (Beneath the Surface)
Launched against the backdrop of some troubling AI outputs from Google’s Gemini model.
A new AI tool focused on enhancing learning with interactive, visually engaging, and research-grounded content.
Features include vocab building, contextual explanations, and integrated resources like YouTube videos and articles.
Matt and Liz explore its potential for PIPs (Personal Interest Projects), capstones, and self-guided learning.
Short Stack Chat Back:Matt and Liz respond to a listener’s question about the ethics of teachers using AI for grading. They emphasize the importance of transparency, minimizing bias, and adhering to data privacy laws when integrating AI into assessment processes.
Announcements:
Matt and Liz are launching a new cohort for their AI in K-12 Education Micro-Credential in January.
Upcoming live appearances at AESA and the release of more exciting episodes this December.
Related Links:
OpenAI's A Student’s Guide to Writing with ChatGPT: https://openai.com/chatgpt/use-cases/student-writing-guide/
Leon Furze’s blog on AI and Grading: https://leonfurze.com/2024/05/27/dont-use-genai-to-grade-student-work/
Google’s LearnAbout Experiment: https://learning.google.com/experiments/learn-about/signup
AI in K-12 Micro-Credential Info: Skills21.org/ai/micro
Diasy AI from o2: https://www.forbes.com/sites/lesliekatz/2024/11/15/introducing-daisy-an-ai-granny-outwitting-scammers-one-call-at-a-time/
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While Matt and Liz continue to roll out their AI micro-credential, ChatEDU is revisiting some episodes from our past lineup. In the coming weeks, we’ll continue to bring back listener favorites that sparked conversations and insights. If you’re new to ChatEDU, welcome! We hope these episodes offer you a great starting point. For our long-time listeners, it’s a chance to revisit an episode or check out other AI and education podcasts.
In this Encore Episode – A Talk with the Boss, Matt and Liz sit down with Jonathan Costa, the Executive Director of EdAdvance. They dive into a wide-ranging conversation that covers Jonathan’s journey from high school history teacher to agency leader. They discuss his unique perspective on the role of AI in education, from improving operational efficiencies to supporting schools in navigating the profound instructional changes AI brings. Jonathan explains his vision for AI’s role in reshaping school administration and explores how AI might impact everything from back-office functions to strategic educational planning. They also tackle challenging topics like how AI will influence job structures in education, the skills students truly need for future success, and why adaptive leadership is more critical than ever.
Expect new episodes later this fall, including a special new episode the day after Thanksgiving (in the US)! In the meantime, you can email us with questions at [email protected]. And if you’d like to learn more about the AI in K-12 education micro-credential, visit skills21.org/ai/micro. Thanks as always for tuning in!
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While Matt and Liz continue rolling out their AI micro-credential, ChatEDU will be revisiting some of our past episodes. Over the next few weeks, we’ll bring back more listener favorites that sparked insightful discussions and questions. If you're new to ChatEDU, welcome! We hope these episodes offer a solid introduction. And for our loyal listeners, take this chance to revisit a past episode or check out other great AI and education podcasts.
In this Encore Episode – From Solo to System: Elevating AI Across Our Schools, Matt and Liz tackle the shift from individual to systemic use of AI in education. First up, they explore the heavy investments labs like Google DeepMind are making to reduce “hallucinations” in large language models. From there, it's a dash of AI images and then AI agency. Finally, Matt and Liz look at the wider potential for AI in schools, advocating for a focus not only on teacher training but on comprehensive school-wide AI integration. They unpack how institutions can scale AI to enhance curriculum, assessment, administration, and more, moving beyond isolated cases to cohesive, strategic use. And, as always, they close with a Short Stack Chat Back.
Expect new live episodes later this fall including a special episode the day after Thanksgiving (in the US)! In the meantime, you can email us with questions at [email protected] and if you'd like to learn more about the AI in K-12 education micro-credential, visit skills21.org/ai/micro. Thanks as always for tuning in!
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While Matt and Liz are kicking off their new AI micro-credential course, we're taking a brief break from new ChatEDU episodes. During most of this month, we will be replaying some episodes that seem especially relevant or received lots of questions and comments. If you're new to ChatEDU, we hope you enjoy this recent trip down memory lane. If you're a long-time listener, feel free to have another listen, or kick back and enjoy one of the other amazing AI and education podcasts out there—or explore a whole new topic.
Now, in this Encore Episode - You Gotta See This, The Potential of AI Vision in Education, Matt and Liz dive into how AI vision can be used in and out of our classrooms. First, they'll share how much they don't know about AI dating, and then the duo will chart new territory about the future of prompting and interactive games...with a Star Trek throughline of course. Finally, they will wrap up with a Short Stack Chat Back! Oh, and there's a whole lotta talk about Inflection AI's Pi, which is now reborn in Microsoft's Co-Pilot App. Be sure to check it out! It's close, but not quite there on the voice.
Matt and Liz look forward to new live episodes in late fall, and as always, you can email us with any questions at [email protected]. Thanks!
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While Matt and Liz are kicking off their new AI micro-credential course, we're taking a brief break from new ChatEDU episodes. During the rest of this month and next, we will be replaying some episodes that seem especially relevant or received lots of questions and comments. If you're new to ChatEDU, we hope you enjoy this recent trip down memory lane. If you're a long-time listener, feel free to have another listen, or kick back and enjoy one of the other amazing AI and education podcasts out there—or explore a whole new topic.
Now, in this reprised episode titled Encore Episode - AI Guilt Trip: Why Educators Sometimes Feel Guilty and What to Do About It!, Matt and Liz riff on AI in music, from Google’s new tools like MusicLM to the unexpected success of AI-generated love songs at open mic night. They also dive into how students are leading AI efforts in Colorado and how New York and LA schools are tapping into AI to support teachers and students. In a plot twist, however, LAUSD’s chatbot “Ed” met an untimely demise when the company behind it went bust. For now, LAUSD had to hit the pause button on Ed, so he'll have to catch his bus elsewhere!
Finally, we'll tackle guilt: why some educators feel uneasy using AI and how to embrace it as a tool to make their work easier. Tune in for practical tips and a few laughs along the way!
Matt and Liz look forward to new live episodes in late fall, and as always, you can email us with any questions at [email protected]. Thanks!
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In this live episode of ChatEDU recorded at an AI conference in Litchfield, Connecticut (More Common Sense - A New CSM Report on Teens and AI), Matt and Liz unpack Common Sense Media's latest report on teen AI usage, followed by an engaging Q&A session with educators. The episode explores the growing role of AI in education and the disparities in awareness between teens and parents.
Getting Started: Matt and Liz kick off the episode from their AI conference in Litchfield, Connecticut, with an enthusiastic audience of educators. They share observations about the conference atmosphere and educators making the most of the beautiful fall day.
Beneath the Surface:
Teen AI Usage and Parental Awareness:
Most teens are using AI tools, particularly AI-enhanced search engines
Significant gap exists between teen usage and parental awareness
Equity and Access Issues:
Black and Latino youth show more optimism about AI's educational potential
Concerns raised about bias in AI detection systems
Need for balanced approaches to AI integration in education
School Policy and Guidelines:
Many schools lack clear AI policies
Students often uncertain about allowed AI uses
Need for more consistent guidelines across education
Live Audience Q&A: Key discussions centered around data privacy in AI tools, strategies for parent education, and the intersection of gaming and AI access. Educators shared concerns and creative solutions for engaging both students and parents in AI education.
Announcements:
ChatEDU is taking a brief fall break!
Connecticut's community of practice for AI continues with national participation
Check out the new AI micro-credential program
Related Links:
Common Sense Media Report: The Dawn of the AI Era - https://www.commonsensemedia.org/research/the-dawn-of-the-ai-era-teens-parents-and-the-adoption-of-generative-ai-at-home-and-school
Connecticut's Community of Practice for AI Registration - https://www.rescalliance.org/artificial-intelligence-ai
AI Micro-credential Program Information - https://www.skills21.org/ai/micro
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In this episode of ChatEDU (To Tech or Not to Tech - A Conversation with Principal Darron Vigliotti), Matt and Liz sit down with Darron Vigliotti, a middle school principal and former high school science teacher. Darron brings his thoughtful perspective on balancing technology and tech-free spaces in the classroom. Key points of the conversation include:
Darron’s reflections on creating tech-free learning spaces and how that can improve attention and engagement (for both students and teachers)
The impact of tech distraction in 1:1 Chromebook environments and strategies to mitigate it.
How his faculty is experimenting with journals and more analog approaches to help students slow down and engage deeply with their learning.
Exploring the SAMR model (Substitution, Augmentation, Modification, Redefinition) as a framework to thoughtfully integrate technology where it’s most impactful.
A broader discussion on AI in education, how it differs from traditional EdTech, and the potential future role of AI as a teaching partner.
Darron’s experience with NotebookLM and how AI tools can offer fascinating possibilities for students and teachers.
Darron also shares stories from his career in education, the challenges of finding balance between learning outcomes and processes, and why promoting lifelong learning is essential.
Links Mentioned:
Skills21 Prompts Page - https://www.skills21.org/prompts
Next, Curtail the Chromebooks - Fordham Institute - https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/next-curtail-chromebooks
Educational Screens in Classrooms Do More Harm Than Good - Newsweek - https://www.newsweek.com/educational-screens-classrooms-do-more-harm-good-opinion-1953468
Contact Us: We’d love to hear your thoughts! Email us at [email protected] or subscribe, rate, and review the podcast on your favorite platform.
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