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In Part 2 of his three-part series, narrative strategist Chris Hare shares the stories he used to survive.
From a near-suicidal season while working at Amazon to a healing moment years later in a record store, this episode unpacks how internal storiesâif left uncheckedâcan become prisons. But when named, challenged, and re-authored, they can also become paths to freedom.
For Gen Xers whoâve spent decades carrying stories they didnât choose, this is a masterclass in taking your story backâand choosing what to build next.
>>When the Narrative Turns Against You
âI repeated âIâm stuckâ like a mantraâfor hours, every week.â
Chris reveals how one toxic narrative nearly ended his life, and how a shift in storyâtriggered by a tragic momentâgave him just enough room to survive.
>>From Mental Health Crisis to Narrative Recovery
âI believed I was going to die. That became my story.â
He shares his journey through depression, chronic pain, and burnoutâand the slow, uncomfortable work of rewriting that internal tape.
>>The Most Powerful Story He Ever Felt
âIt started with my bossâs tattoo and ended with Eddie Vedder hugging me in a record store.â
Chris tells the full-circle story of how a Pearl Jam song became the turning point in his healingâand why storytelling doesnât just change businesses, it changes people.
>>Storytelling Is a Riskâand a Return
âMost of us tell curated stories. The raw ones? Thatâs where the power is.â
He makes a case for telling the stories that arenât polished. Because those are the stories that truly shift our futuresâand invite others to shift with us.
>>From Blame to Responsibility
âI had to stop blaming everyone else for my unhappiness.â
Chris opens up about how his marriage nearly ended, and how rewriting his personal narrativeâthrough new inputs and radical honestyâbrought him back.
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In Part 1 of this three-part series, Chris Hare shares how a single founder story sparked a strategy pivot inside Amazonâand why storytelling isnât fluff, itâs infrastructure.
As a behind-the-scenes strategist for some of techâs biggest companies, Chris has spent decades shaping narratives that align people, purpose, and performance. But his real power lies in his Gen X sensibility: low drama, high pattern recognition, and deep alignment between whatâs said and whatâs done. This episode explores how narrative becomes strategyâand why the most powerful shifts often start quietly, from the edges.
>>From Ad World to Strategic Narrative
âI started in marketing, but I got tired of talking at people.â
Chris shares how his path from advertising to Amazon and Microsoft led him to discover a deeper kind of storytellingâone that doesnât sell, but aligns and activates.
>>Stories Fuel the NarrativeâBut Donât Confuse the Two
âStories are time-bound. Narratives are ongoing.â
He breaks down the difference between stories and narratives using a flywheel modelâand why most companies misuse both.
>>When a Story Shifts a Billion-Dollar Business
âOne conversation in Brooklyn rewrote the future of Amazon Marketplace.â
Chris recounts how a single founder story changed the internal narrative at Amazon, sparking a strategic shift toward supporting brand ownersânot just resellers.
>>Narrative Isnât a DepartmentâItâs the Operating System
âEveryone thinks they own the narrative. The CMO. The CEO. The team.â
He unpacks why narrative must be rooted in strategy, and why trying to split it between brand, marketing, and product only creates confusion.
>>How Change Starts with Listening
âStorytelling isnât a heroâs journey framework. Itâs a pattern recognition discipline.â
Chris explains how real narrative work starts with deep listening and curiosityâand how companies can design strategy around human insight, not hype.
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In Part 2 of her conversation, Sara Lobkovich doesnât just tell us what strategy isâshe shows us who itâs for.
Her book, You Are a Strategist, is more than a guide to OKRs or goal-setting. Itâs a toolkit for people whoâve always felt misaligned, misunderstood, or mislabeled in traditional business environments. Drawing from her own experience as a trauma survivor, neurodivergent thinker, and late-diagnosed ADHD strategist, Sara offers business frameworks that finally include the rest of us.
For Gen Xers who never fit the mold but always saw the system clearly, this episode is both validation and a user manual.
>>From Law School to Strategy Misfit
âI never got the interview. I didnât have the right name on my rĂ©sumĂ©.â
Sara reflects on being locked out of big-name strategy firmsâand how that exclusion pushed her to build her own frameworks, grounded in human insight, not prestige.
>>Strategy as Shared Language
âThe simplest tech in business? Words that mean the same thing to everyone.â
Sara breaks down how misalignment over simple terms like âstrategyâ or âgoalsâ can waste human energyâand how her frameworks give teams a shared starting point.
>>The Book That Became a Love Letter
âI wrote the book I neededâand cried when I read the proof.â
She shares how You Are a Strategist evolved from a workbook on goal-setting into a deeply personal guide for people who feel unseen in traditional business culture.
>>A Toolkit for the Misunderstood
âThis book is for introverts, ADHDers, trauma survivors, frustrated changemakers.â
Sara explains why her audience mattersâand how her tools were designed for people often left out of business conversations but full of unrealized insight.
>>Leading Through Questions, Not Performances
âStrategy is asking the question no one else is askingâthen listening.â
She closes by reframing leadership as a curiosity-driven practice, not a performanceâand why the most powerful change-makers are often the ones who feel like outsiders.
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Sara Lobkovich didnât pivot to be edgy. She adapted because the system never fitâand she refused to shrink herself to match it.
In this first of a two-part series, Sara walks us through her nonlinear arc: from teen internet entrepreneur to lawyer, from burnout strategist to behavioral goal-setting expert. Along the way, she reveals how quiet defiance, early activism, and radical self-curiosity helped her rewire how she worked and lived.
For Gen Xers tired of being told to âjust fit in,â this episode hits like a guidebook wrapped in real talk.
>>Port Townsend Roots, Strategy Brain Wiring
âI was raised where being a writer or artist wasnât a dreamâit was a job.â
Sara shares how growing up in a small creative town and fighting for chocolate milk equity in third grade foreshadowed a life spent rewriting systems that didnât make sense.
>>Corporate Doesnât Like People Like Us
âI gave 150% and learned they only wanted 25.â
She opens up about being misread, underused, and professionally ghosted inside organizations that couldnât make space for someone who thought faster than the hierarchy could handle.
>>Law School, Big Agencies, and That One Job That Broke Her
âI was the person on the plane with no life and a dog living with my parents.â
Sara traces her journey through law, tech, brand strategy, and burnoutâhighlighting how her performance often outpaced her internal compass.
>>Strategy as a Rebellion, Not a Resume
âStrategy isnât being the smartest in the roomâitâs asking the best questions.â
She unpacks how real strategy is built by misfits, introverts, and pattern-obsessivesânot always the polished ones at the front of the pitch deck.
>>Stuck â Static
âI made stuckness into a self-directed MBA.â
For Sara, curiosity is the antidote to stagnation. She reframes âbeing stuckâ as a training ground and offers a mindset shift for anyone feeling locked in place.
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In this second half of her story, Holly Bond comes full circleâreturning to the recruiting world she once left behind, this time to rebuild it from the ground up. At Facets, sheâs proving that scaling a business doesnât require sacrificing soul. From her pay structure to her candidate experience to her teamâs human-first process, Holly is quietly leading a revolution in executive search.
She also drops some of the best job-seeking advice on the show to dateâespecially for Gen Xers navigating reinvention in an AI-shaped job market.
>>Why She Said No for Two Years
âI wasnât going back unless I could build it on my terms.â
Holly shares how she turned down the offer to lead a recruiting divisionâuntil the company agreed to let her rewrite the model with empathy at the core.
>>From Commission to Compassion
âI spent 90 minutes with a man in crisis. And someone called it non-revenue-generating time.â
That moment made her walk away. Now, she leads a team thatâs paid to careânot just to close.
>>Human-First Headhunting
âWeâre not built for speed. Weâre built for connection.â
Facets was founded to serve both candidates and clientsânot just fill roles. The process is slow by design, and thatâs the point.
>>Canât-Miss Advice for Job Seekers
âKeep your resume on your desktopâlike a living will.â
From networking mindset to real-world resume tips, Holly offers grounded, no-BS advice for job seekers of all ages, especially those in their 40s, 50s, and 60s.
>>What AI Canât Replace
âWe use AI to be more efficientâso we can be more human.â
Holly explains exactly where AI fits into her recruiting processâand where it never will. Emotional nuance, creativity, and human connection? Still 100% analog.
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Holly Bond didnât inherit a business or a playbookâshe built her own, from the basement up.
In this first of a two-part conversation, she shares how a late return to university, a family health wake-up call, and pure Gen X tenacity drove her to create a kidsâ fitness franchise with national impact. Hollyâs story is part entrepreneurship, part emotional reckoning, and full of hard-earned wisdom for anyone designing change from the inside out. If youâve ever thought it was too late, too messy, or too uncertainâthis episode proves otherwise.
>>Seventeen Years and One Framed Diploma
âMy kids framed my degreeâwith notes saying âYouâre the bomb.ââ
Holly recounts how she returned to college as a mom of two, taking one course at a time over nearly two decadesâproving that starting late doesnât mean finishing small.
>>Sales from Scratch
âI went from mall dumpsters to headhunter interviews.â
Her first outside sales job was in waste management. The job was unglamorousâbut it proved she could sell. And it led her, unexpectedly, to the world of recruiting.
>>The Moment That Changed Everything
âHe said our son was overweight. I didnât believe itâuntil I saw it.â
A brutally honest conversation about her sonâs health launched Holly into action. What began as a home gym turned into Bulldog Interactive Fitness, a childrenâs fitness franchise powered by gaming.
>>From Basement Prototypes to National News
âI said weâre franchising on TVâbefore we even had an application form.â
She hustled media coverage, fielded 100+ franchise inquiries in 24 hours, and built the brand on the fly. It was messy. It was bold. And it workedâuntil the 2009 crash tested everything.
>>The Lessons That Nearly Broke Her
âI stopped listening to the advisors who warned me. Almost lost it all.â
From overconfidence to near-collapse, Holly reflects on how she came close to losing her companyâand what pulled her back just in time.
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In Part Two, Sande takes us into the quieterâbut more honestâchapter that followed. He shares what happened when he stepped off the growth treadmill, redefined ambition, and began unlearning the beliefs that kept him over-performing and under-listening. From rebuilding marriage to carving out what he calls Life Peels, Sande shares what it means to grow by subtractingânot stacking.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Life After the Climb
âWhat would happen if I just got really quiet and listened? Not learnedâlistened.â
The Life Peels Method
âWeâre like Michelangeloâs David. You donât need to add anythingâyou just need to carve away whatâs not you.â
Redefining Growth
âIâm done with strategy decks and trying to prove something. I just want clarity, ease, and to feel good in my skin.â
Marriage in the In-Between
âWhen our last kid left for college, we both needed space. Not because it was brokenâbut because we hadnât had it before.â
How Less Became More
âWhen I let go of trying to control everything, the right things started happening. On their own.â
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Sande Golgart was the guy who said yes to every opportunity, outran every challenge, and never sat stillâuntil one day, the success story stopped feeling like his.
In Part One, he opens up about going from slam dunk champ to corporate high-performer to someone questioning the very game he was winning. He talks about early ambition, the trap of nonstop action, and the moment he realized: âYou climb, climb, climb⊠then realize the mountain isnât even yours.â
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Slam Dunks to Sales Calls
âI was competing in dunk contests all over the country. I used that same mindset in business.â
The High Performer Trap
âI just kept saying yes. I never said no. I kept moving, kept growing, kept stretching.â
Action Over Inaction
âEven if you take a wrong step, at least youâre moving. Inaction is a choice tooâbut it gives you nothing to work with.â
The Wake-Up Line
âYou climb, climb, climb⊠then realized the mountain isnât even yours.â
No Off Switch
âI didnât even know what I liked. I never stopped long enough to ask.â
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Chris Quek isnât just building startupsâheâs building a generation.
In this second half of his story, he shares how selling his inheritance became the launchpad for Thrive, a VC firm that invests in Southeast Asiaâs overlooked next-gen entrepreneurs. From structuring value-aligned startups to teaching his kids the principles behind technology, Chris shows how legacy isnât something you receiveâitâs something you design.
For Gen Xers navigating intergenerational tension, personal ambition, and regional impact, this episode delivers both hard-won wisdom and a hopeful blueprint.
>>From Closure to Creation
âI didnât inherit a businessâI shut it down.â
Chris shares the emotional closure with his father, the sale of the family factory, and how he turned personal loss into a new professional beginning.
>>Southeast Asiaâs Family Business Wake-Up Call
âWe raised a generation of lawyers and bankersâbut whoâs left to run the businesses?â
He explains how Singaporeâs success came at a cost: the erosion of entrepreneurial driveâand why heâs now building the bridge back.
>>Designing a VC That Feeds the Ecosystem
âOur investors are second-gen family owners. Our startups solve their problems.â
Chris outlines Thriveâs unique model: a purpose-built flywheel that connects capital, tech, and legacy businesses in Southeast Asia.
>>Capital with a Conscience
âWe backed a ride-hailing company where drivers take home 40% more pay.â
From AgriMax to Tata, Chris shares examples of startups Thrive has funded that combine profitability with real, human impact.
>>Fatherhood, Values, and the Next Next Gen
âI donât teach my kids my methodsâI teach them my values.â
Chris opens up about parenting three children under 13, mentoring with intention, and why good valuesânot rigid playbooksâare what truly last.
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Chris Quek couldâve stayed in the family business and lived comfortably. Instead, he chose a life of uncomfortable clarity.
In this first of a two-part series, Chris shares how he rejected expectations, fled the legacy he was born into, and built an e-commerce business in Malaysia with nothing but grit and guidance from mentors. Now 46, he reflects on what identity really means when youâre not handed a playbookâand how each phase of reinvention brings you closer to your core. For Gen Xers rewriting their lives mid-game, this is the kind of conversation that sticks.
>>When Legacy Isnât Your Story
âI didnât want to be the son of Mr. Quek. I wanted to be me.â
Chris explains why he left his familyâs manufacturing empire and fled to Malaysiaâwhere he started over, with no plan, no capital, and no title.
>>Courage Is Quiet
âI lasted three days in China. Then I left. I couldnât do it.â
He unpacks the emotional and ethical discomfort that made him walk away from his fatherâs factoryâand the fear he had to face to forge his own path.
>>Lessons from the Streets of Malaysia
âMy startup wasnât sexy. It was survival.â
Chris shares how he built a cross-border e-commerce business using payment hacks, logistics hustle, and gut instinctâlong before VC buzzwords existed.
>>Mentorship Over Money
âI didnât inherit wealth. I inherited wisdom.â
Raised around entrepreneurs and sharp thinkers, Chris reflects on how informal mentoringâfrom car rides to restaurant napkinsâshaped his business thinking.
>>Every Decade, Rediscover Yourself
âAt every stage, I found a new part of me I didnât know existed.â
Chris traces his 20-year journey through reinventionâfrom entrepreneur to advisor to VCâand why he believes identity isnât found. Itâs built, season by season.
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In this second half of his conversation, Gagan Sandhu pulls back the curtain on what it really means to design financial independence. Itâs not about the FIRE movement or early retirementâitâs about knowing your trade-offs and making conscious, math-informed decisions that align with your values. From career reinvention every 10 years to balancing ambition with family time, Gagan offers Gen Xers a refreshingly grounded take on money, identity, and midlife work design.
>>Financial Independence Is a Design Decision
âI didnât quit to escape. I quit because I couldâon my own terms.â
Gagan redefines financial independence not as a finish line, but a framework for how to live, work, and choose with freedom.
>>Itâs Not About the Number. Itâs About the Math Behind Your Life
âI built a five-year runwayânot a fantasy.â
He walks through how he calculated his freedom, X + Y + Z style: long-term retirement, short-term burn, and real-life expenses like college.
>>FIRE vs Philosophy
âDesires evolve. So does your definition of freedom.â
In a head-to-head with Vince, Gagan goes deep on the psychology of wealthâand why independence without self-awareness is just another trap.
>>Ageism or Skill Gap?
âDonât blame age. Upgrade your playbook.â
Gagan reframes mid-career uncertainty not as an HR problem, but a personal pivot pointâand makes a sharp case for reinvention every 10 years.
>>Teaching the Tool, Not the Trick
âYou donât need financial content. You need clarity.â
He explains how Zillion helps busy families and immigrants manage wealth like prosânot through advice, but through intuitive, data-backed modeling.
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Gagan Sandhu didnât chase freedom. He calculated it.
In this first of a two-part series, the Chicago Booth MBA, former tech exec, and founder of fintech startup Zillion shares how he redefined financial independenceâmoving beyond buzzwords and into practical action. From his immigrant roots to his pivot from mechanical engineering to Silicon Valley, Gagan shows how knowledgeânot speedâbuilds real freedom.
Whether youâre Gen X or Gen Z, this conversation reframes wealth not as a finish line, but as a tool for designing the life you actually want.
>>From Engineering to Independence
âI didnât change careers at 22âI did it at 30, with a kid on the way.â
Gagan shares how he shifted from mechanical engineering to techâslowly, methodically, while balancing parenthood and late-night coding marathons.
>>Knowledge Is Currency
âEvery leap I made came from learning, not luck.â
He reflects on why knowledgeânot connections, not titlesâhas been the key success driver in his nonlinear, global career.
>>Financial Independence â Retirement
âI didnât stop working. I stopped relying on someone else to fund my time.â
Gagan breaks down the real math behind financial independence, and why itâs not about quitting your jobâitâs about having options.
>>FIRE Without the Hype
âWe turned it into a real-time calculatorâso people can stop guessing and start acting.â
Gagan explains how his company Zillion helps users understand their path to independence through clean logic, custom inputs, and grounded assumptions.
>>Money, Math, and Meaning
âIndependence isnât a destinationâitâs a design challenge.â
In a thoughtful back-and-forth with Vince, Gagan shares why financial planning must merge psychology, lifestyle design, and human behaviorânot just numbers in a spreadsheet.
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What do you do when the person youâve beenâmom, fixer, chauffeur, plannerâis no longer needed in the same way?
In Part 2, Jodi shares the emotional (and practical) shift from parenting full-time to rediscovering your own interests. She walks us through her signature DARE Method and dishes out real talk on marriage, identity, and why your kids arenât your best friends (even if you really, really like them).
This isnât just an episode about empty nests. Itâs about refilling your own lifeâon your own terms.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Parenting Pivot
âYouâre always their momâbut not always their problem-solver.â
How to shift from fixer to adviser.
Best Friend? Nope. Mom Forever.
âThey have friends. What they need is a parent who actually knows when to walk away.â
The Real Empty Nest Challenges
âItâs not just missing them. Itâs not knowing who you are without them.â
The DARE Method
Decide. Awaken. Reimagine. Experience. A four-step strategy for rebooting midlife.
Rediscovering You
âStart with a brain dump. What did you used to likeâbefore you were someoneâs plus one?â
Day Swaps, Not Date Nights
âPlan a day around what lights them up. Youâll learn more than any heart-to-heart.â
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Jodi Silverman didnât set out to lead a movementâshe just wanted to figure out what came next.
In Part 1, she opens up about career shifts, midlife transitions, and how becoming an empty nester sent her on a completely different path. Spoiler: it involved leaving behind a successful print business, embracing a âdare,â and launching a community that now supports thousands of women through their own identity resets.Whether youâre a parent or not, this is a story about transition, reinvention, and giving yourself permission to be more than one thing.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Sales Rep to Accidental Entrepreneur
âI didnât know the word âentrepreneurâ back then. I just knew I didnât want a bossâor a babysitter.â
The Quiet That Changed Everything
âSuddenly, I had free time⊠and I didnât want to sell print anymore.â
What happens when the kids leave and purpose takes a nap.
A Guilty No, and a New Yes
âAdmitting I was unfulfilled felt selfishâbut it was the start of everything.â
Finding the Word That Fit
âI was already doing it. I just didnât know it was called daring.â
How Moms Who Dare Was Born
From a Facebook group to a full-blown movement, one post at a time.
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Wayland Lum has built a leadership career that spans tech giants, global consulting, and top business schoolsâbut his boldest move was walking away from all of it to build something from scratch.
Now the founder of Copperbox, he coaches modern leaders through a philosophy that fuses deep psychology, personal courage, and timeless wisdom. In this episode, he shares the moment he chose purpose over prestige, the emotional realities behind true leadership, and why fear and courage are two sides of the same decision. For Gen Xers done with title-chasing and hungry for meaning, this is the episode to come back toâagain and again.
>>From Booth to Bold Moves
âWould I keep relying on the building, the brandâor bet on myself?â
Wayland shares the moment he realized he had to stop playing it safe and walk the walk. The leap from corporate prestige to personal practice was years in the makingâand worth it.
>>Coaching Is Not a ShortcutâItâs a Mirror
âYou push people to become who they could beânot who they think they are.â
Wayland reflects on being coached early in his career, and how that shaped his fierce belief in holding leaders to their highest potential.
>>Leadership Isnât StatusâItâs a Torch
âReal leadership burns. If youâre not sacrificing, youâre not leading.â
Through Copperbox, Wayland trains modern leaders using eight core principlesâdrawn from nature, history, and human psychology. His goal: transformation, not just transaction.
>>Courage Only Comes After Fear
âYou donât get to feel brave without first feeling scared.â
He breaks down how the most meaningful leadership moments require discomfortâand how emotions like courage and fear, joy and grief, are always paired.
>>Wisdom Over Hype
âLeadership today is louderâbut not always deeper.â
Waylandâs work is about rewiring leaders to navigate not just business chaos, but emotional complexity. Because modern leadership demands more than charismaâit demands character.
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CĂ©sar Couto Ferreira spent over a decade deep in the world of global mediaâshaping MTV across Europe and Africa, working with stars, and riding the wave from analog to digital. But when Amy Winehouse died, something broke. Not in the headlines, but inside him. He saw how the industry treated artists as contentânot peopleâand decided he couldnât be part of it anymore. That moment became his call to redesign his life.
In this episode, CĂ©sar shares how he left global prestige behind to build systems of real impactâhelping governments, mentoring young entrepreneurs, and bringing Web Summit to Portugal.
For Gen Xers questioning the legacy of their work, this episode is a gut-check: you can walk away from the machineâand build something that lasts.
>>The Rise and the Reckoning
âI was living on the same street as Coldplay. But something felt deeply wrong.â
Cesar traces his rise from DJ to MTV execâand the moment he realized proximity to fame doesnât mean pride in the system.
>>When Amy Winehouse Died, Everything Shifted
âWe prepped obituaries like playlists. And then Amy died. I couldnât unsee it.â
Her death wasnât just tragicâit was Cesarâs breaking point. It made him question everything about the machine he helped run.
>>Leaving the Bright Lights to Build Real Change
âI chose to stop. Not because I failedâbut because I wanted to design something better.â
Cesar reflects on the long walk away from global mediaâand into tech, civic transformation, and mentorship across Portugal and Brazil.
>>Legacy Over Likes
âMedia taught me how to influence. Now Iâm using that skill for society.â
From helping bring Web Summit to Lisbon to working with governments and young founders, Cesar is now designing systems with human value.
>>Advice from a Media Veteran to the Always-Online Generation
âRead more books. Touch more people. Donât believe the hype.â
Cesar leaves a timeless reminder: attention is powerâand what you do with it matters more than who sees it.
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Ryota Tanozaki didnât pivot because of burnoutâhe pivoted to avoid a trap. While managing a turnaround project in rural Japan, he saw the writing on the wall: stay too long, and his world would shrink. Instead, he chose to bet on himself. He went global, earned an MBA from Chicago Booth, built a career across Facebook and Tabist (backed by Softbank Japan), and led a hospitality startup through one of the toughest periods in travel history. But his secret wasnât speedâit was clarity.
In this episode, Ryota shares how to spot when your career path is narrowing, why perseverance matters more than perfection, and how real reinvention often starts with one question: what if I donât want this to be it?
>>The Moment He Almost Settled
âI started thinkingâwhat if my career ends in this rural city?â
While leading a department store turnaround in a quiet town, Ryota realized he might be stuck in a shrinking path. That moment of clarity sparked his move to go globalâand never look back.
>>Escape the Trap, Rebuild the Map
âChallenge more. Risk more. Grow more.â
Ryota didnât just dream of a bigger lifeâhe designed it. Earning an MBA at Chicago Booth gave him global exposure and the networks to shift from domestic roles to international leadership.
>>Reinvention Isnât Always Loud
âSometimes the biggest moves start with a quiet discomfort.â
Ryota shares how he shifted from consulting to corporate rolesânot in panic, but through steady recalibration and awareness of his evolving goals.
>>Leading Through Crisis Without Losing Yourself
âThree months in, COVID hit. We had to rebuild everything.â
As CEO of Tabist, Ryota didnât just navigate crisisâhe rewrote the companyâs mission, strategy, and structure. All while staying grounded in purpose.
>>Mission Over Compensation
âWhen they visit those hotels, they see the mission in action.â
Ryota explains how he keeps his team motivated without big paychecksâby giving them something bigger than money: a mission they believe in.
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--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.12 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
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In Part 2, Lora walks us through the why behind her return to music full-time. From co-founding Virtuoso Fiesta to launching her album Reveries on Ivories, she shares how composition became her storytelling toolâand how she sees music not just as art, but as a way to build peace, shift perspectives, and maybe even fix broken systems.
This isnât a story about following your passion. Itâs a story about building the courage to lead with it.
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You donât expect a hedge fund manager to also be writing operas. But Lora Chow has always done things differently. In Part 1, she shares how a childhood love of music led her to Yale, how she pivoted from potential math major to economics and music, and how the Hong Kong hustleâand one very lucrative offerâput finance ahead of passion⊠at least for a while.
This episode isnât about quitting your job on a whim. Itâs about trusting the detours that make the next chapter possible.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Music and Math at 17
âMy heart wanted music. But my mom majored in mathâand Hong Kong wanted finance.â
Why she chose Yale over Cambridge.
Ivy League Dissonance
âEveryone was applying to Morgan Stanley. I followed the crowdâand got the job.â
When ambition meets expectation.
Hedge Funds and Harmony
âI loved music. But I also wanted a home with a grand piano.â
Trading dreams for stability⊠and circling back.
A Voice Silenced
âI lost my voice for a year. Thatâs when I started composing.â
How injury redirected her path.
From Opera to Opportunity
How a summer program in Bulgaria unlocked a deeper callingâand a new kind of creativity.
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Lora Chow (YouTube Channel)--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.12 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
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Most change efforts fail because they forget one thing: people. In Part 2, Richard breaks down The Book of Change, his 39-step model for leading transformation without leaving common sense behind. We get into the difference between showing up with a framework vs. showing up ready to listenâand what AI might never understand about real leadership.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
What Most Consultants Miss
âThey deliver a binder and disappear. Thatâs not help. Thatâs homework.â
Why Richard built his own model.
The 39-Step Framework
âEvery step fixes something Iâve seen go wrong.â
Itâs not bloatedâitâs built from battle scars.
Empathy as Strategy
âYou canât shortcut human trust.â
Why listening well matters more than leading fast.
AI Wonât Solve Culture
âYou canât automate belief. You canât code buy-in.â
Where technology hits its limit.
Advice That Changed His Career
âI donât need your answerâI need you to hear me.â
His wifeâs one-liner that became a leadership principle.
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Richard H. Carson--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence
for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,
Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.12 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>140,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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