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Athena Brownson: Rebuilding Life and Mindset After an 8-Year Lyme Disease Journey — Part Two
17 dec· Chief Change Officer
Part Two.
At the height of her real estate career, Athena Brownson’s life was derailed by Lyme disease. For eight years, she’s faced chronic pain and intensive treatments, reshaping every part of her world. As Athena puts it, “If life didn’t give us adversity and challenges…”
Yesterday, she recounted the early days of her diagnosis, the fight to survive, and the harsh realities of living with this poorly understood condition. Today, in Part 2, Athena will reveal how she turned survival into thriving and rebuilt her career on her own terms.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Retraining the Brain
“Pain puts the brain in fight-or-flight mode, and it can get stuck there. So it’s on us to train our minds to tell our bodies we’re okay, to push through and find relief.”
The Power of a Routine
“For me, routines are huge. My toolkit includes morning and evening rituals – breathwork, meditation, journaling, writing affirmations. I remind myself every day: I am healthy. I am healing. My body can get through this.”
The Art of Delegation
“Delegation isn’t just about getting things off your plate; it’s about giving others a chance to shine. My illness showed me I can’t do everything, nor should I. Letting go allows others to thrive, and it’s empowering to see them do what they love.”
Building My Tribe
“Finding the right people was a decade-long journey, but now I have a team around me who would do anything for me. They’re not just coworkers; they’re my support system, my tribe. I know they’re here for me, health and all, and I wouldn’t be where I am without them.”
The Power of Pen and Paper
“Writing by hand does something special. Seeing the words you put down lets them sink in, letting you visualize and internalize them in a unique way.”
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Athena Brownson: Rebuilding Life and Mindset After an 8-Year Lyme Disease Journey — Part One
16 dec· Chief Change Officer
Part One.
At the height of her real estate career, Athena Brownson’s life was derailed by Lyme disease. For eight years, she’s faced chronic pain and intensive treatments, reshaping every part of her world. As Athena puts it, “If life didn’t give us adversity and challenges…”
In this episode, she recounts the early days of her diagnosis, the fight to survive, and the harsh realities of living with this poorly understood condition. Tomorrow, in Part 2, Athena will reveal how she turned survival into thriving and rebuilt her career on her own terms.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Hidden Threat of Lyme Disease
“I had no idea what Lyme disease was before I was diagnosed with it. It’s the fastest growing epidemic in the United States, and it can turn life upside down.”
From Athlete to Survivor
“My life has made a complete 180 from being a professional athlete to just trying to get through each day. It’s a nightmare I wouldn’t wish on anyone.”
When Life Becomes a Series of Challenges
“It’s hard not to get stuck in the mud when you’re dealing with something so challenging and constant… chronic pain, chronic fatigue, enough to make anyone want to stay in bed and not do anything.”
Creating a Toolkit for Every Day
“How do we pivot our mentality? How do we create our toolkit of things to get us through each day, even when we don’t want to? Sometimes it’s as simple as blasting favorite music or making a great cup of coffee.”
Becoming Your Own Biggest Advocate
“With Lyme, I’ve learned that you have to be your own biggest advocate. It’s about mental resilience, surrounding yourself with the right people, and finding those anchors to push forward.”
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Hong Kong’s May Yeung: Creating Art’s Brightest Magic from Life’s Deepest Struggles
16 dec· Chief Change Officer
For the first time, my podcast comes full circle!
Though I started and run this show in Hong Kong, I’ve yet to feature a guest from right here in my home city—until today.
Meet May Yeung: a teaching artist, founder of the charity Art of My Family, cancer survivor, and proud mom to an 14-month-old cutie. Through art, May is reshaping lives and championing sustainability, mental health, and social inclusion right here in Hong Kong.
In a city known for its financial might, May shows us a path of passion and purpose, proving that art can spark meaningful change. Bonus? Our youngest guest yet—her 14-month-old son—is along for the ride. Stay tuned!
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
3:17—From Wall Scribbles to Ceramics: A Childhood Steeped in Art
“From the time I was around two years old, I would draw on walls before I could even write my name. By five, my father and I were creating ceramics together. At age 12, my fascination with dadaism and pop art gave me the conviction to become an artist.”
"I met Professor Jeff Oppenheimer who gave a lecture on integrating art into daily life, and daily life into art, and the contents of this lecture really helped to form the framework and direction of my art to this day."
6:00—Where Art Meets Music: How Music Has Influenced Her Art Creation
8:41—From Crunching Numbers to Crafting Impact: How Finance Led May to Art and Social Change
11:20—Faith Over Fear: How Battling Cancer Transformed a Perfectionist into a Celebrator of Life’s Small Wins
"I think the cancer experience really let me feel a greater sense of conviction to serve the underprivileged"
16:25—Art for Archer: How Motherhood and Heritage Shape Her Creations
18:09—Dim Sum and Chinese Checkers: Weaving Hong Kong’s Culture into Every Piece of Art
21:34—Memorable Art Pieces “What If” and “Blossom Love”: Sculpting Bridges Between Cultures and Endless Possibilities
23:19—From Corporate CSR to Creative Compassion: The Birth of Art of My Family
30:00—May’s Life Mission to Inspire the Next Generation: The Three C’s of Art Education and the Role of a Teaching Artist
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: May Yeung
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Growing Beyond Office Politics with Jennifer Selby Long: Escaping Toxic Cultures That Linger - Part Two
15 dec· Chief Change Officer
Part Two.
Ever left a toxic boss or workplace, hoping for a fresh start, only to land in the same chaos at your new job? It’s a frustratingly common cycle.
The truth is, office politics are everywhere. From power plays and subtle maneuvers to that colleague who always seems to win, navigating workplace dynamics can be exhausting.
In this two-part series, leadership expert Jennifer Selby Long joins me to unpack why office politics happen, how some people thrive in politically charged environments, and why others struggle. We’ll explore toxic cultures, power dynamics, and the hidden forces shaping your work life—and how to navigate them without losing yourself along the way.
Feeling stuck or burned out? These episodes are packed with relatable stories and actionable insights to help you take your next step forward.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Talent vs. Tactics: Why Performance Alone Doesn’t Guarantee Success
“In corporate environments, it’s often not the most skilled or hardworking employees who thrive—it’s those adept at navigating office politics. Top performers may drive results, but their brilliance can threaten insecure leaders, creating a system where political tact outshines true talent.”
The Right Culture for the Right Person
“Some thrive in competitive political environments; others find them draining. The key is identifying whether your personal interests align with the culture around you. The fit matters more than fighting a system that may not suit you.”
No Permanent Friends, No Permanent Enemies—Just Interests
“Drawing from the wisdom of Martin Luther King’s attorney, Clarence Jones: the game of politics is about aligning interests, not forging everlasting alliances. Understanding this can shift how you approach your workplace dynamics.”
Burnout and Disengagement: The Fallout of Neglecting Talent
“When talent is neither respected nor recognized, it creates a workplace rife with disengagement and burnout. Organizations lose not just individuals but the potential for meaningful progress, leaving behind a culture where playing the game matters more than delivering value.”
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Growing Beyond Office Politics with Jennifer Selby Long: Escaping Toxic Cultures That Linger - Part One
15 dec· Chief Change Officer
Part One.
Ever left a toxic boss or workplace, hoping for a fresh start, only to land in the same chaos at your new job? It’s a frustratingly common cycle.
The truth is, office politics are everywhere. From power plays and subtle maneuvers to that colleague who always seems to win, navigating workplace dynamics can be exhausting.
In this two-part series, leadership expert Jennifer Selby Long joins me to unpack why office politics happen, how some people thrive in politically charged environments, and why others struggle. We’ll explore toxic cultures, power dynamics, and the hidden forces shaping your work life—and how to navigate them without losing yourself along the way.
Feeling stuck or burned out? These episodes are packed with relatable stories and actionable insights to help you take your next step forward.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Finding Your Ally Among the Majority
“In political environments, success hinges on securing a powerful ally. Aligning your interests with theirs and elevating them as a leader in your cause is essential if you plan to stay and thrive in such an environment.”
When Conversations Clash, Progress Pauses
“Business meetings often default to task-focused debates where differing perspectives turn into verbal standoffs. Rarely do teams pause to acknowledge the conflict and approach it constructively, missing opportunities to uncover deeper understanding.”
No Permanent Friends, No Permanent Enemies—Just Interests
“Drawing from the wisdom of Martin Luther King’s attorney, Clarence Jones: the game of politics is about aligning interests, not forging everlasting alliances. Understanding this can shift how you approach your workplace dynamics.”
Assumptions: The Silent Saboteur
“Most conflicts arise not from genuine disagreement but from unchecked assumptions about others’ motives or goals. Pausing to clarify and validate these assumptions can eliminate a significant portion of perceived conflict.”
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Jennifer Selby Long: Navigating Power, Politics, and Personal Change
14 dec· Chief Change Officer
Jennifer Selby Long, the executive coach for tech leaders with 30 plus years of experience, dives into the art of navigating organizational politics and leading effective change.
She explores the roots of workplace power struggles, from unhealthy leadership dynamics to competing stakeholder needs, and shares how empathy can transform political challenges into progress. Jennifer breaks down common missteps in handling ineffective bosses and highlights the importance of aligning personal and organizational goals during times of transformation. Whether you’re managing a team or managing your own career pivot, her insights offer a practical roadmap for thriving in complex environments.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Aligning Change with Personal Motivations
“People don’t move mountains for stock prices or cost savings. They do it when the change connects to their personal ‘why’—what matters most to them as individuals.”
Recognize the Root of Politics
“Politics can stem from unhealthy leadership, but more often, they arise from competing needs and varied skill levels among stakeholders. Identifying the source is key to navigating them.”
Empathy as a Superpower
“The path through political challenges begins with empathy. Understand the needs of those with power—even if you think they don’t deserve it—and align your strategy with their goals.”
Avoid Playing Psychologist
“Trying to diagnose your boss’s issues only disempowers you. Focus on what you can control instead of guessing why your boss behaves the way they do.”
Assess the Real Problem
“Ask yourself: Is the boss genuinely ineffective, or am I resisting the changes they’re implementing? Recognizing your own resistance can help you approach the situation constructively.”
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Jennifer Selby Long: Turning Self-Doubt into Self-Leadership
14 dec· Chief Change Officer
From her accidental start in change management in the 90s to coaching today’s tech leaders, Jennifer Selby Long’s journey is all about helping people navigate and lead change effectively.
Jennifer shares how she transitioned from I.T. training to founding a coaching practice that specializes in guiding leaders through the human side of change. She explains why technical processes are only part of the solution and how the real challenge lies in influencing others—peers, leaders, and even oneself—to embrace transformation. With decades of experience, she unpacks the key to thriving amidst conflict and complexity: mastering change leadership.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From IT Troubleshooting to People-Centric Change
“Back in the 90s, tech resistance often came down to one thing: it didn’t work well enough. Today, that’s no longer the case. Technology works—it’s the people and their habits that need shifting.”
The Human Side of Digital Transformation
“Digital transformation isn’t just about new tools; it’s about reshaping roles, mindsets, and entire workflows.”
The Power of Hope in Change
“Hope isn’t just a warm fuzzy feeling—it’s a vision of life 12 to 18 months from now, shaped by the best possible outcome of the change. And it has to connect with each person’s ‘why,’ not just the company’s goals.”
Patience: A Leader’s Greatest Ally
“Change happens in waves. While a leader may glimpse the new shore, their team might only see endless water. Impatience doesn’t help—it’s self-awareness and patience that bring everyone along.”
Self-Doubt: It’s Not You, It’s Your Brain
“When self-doubt creeps in, it’s your brain’s saboteur neural networks firing up, not a reflection of your abilities. Recognizing this can stop sabotage before it derails you.”
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Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two
13 dec· Chief Change Officer
From mechanical engineering in India to leading tech roles at Square and Atlassian in Silicon Valley, Gagan Sandhu’s career is a masterclass in adaptability and growth.
Now the CEO and Co-Founder of Xillion, a platform empowering financial independence, Gagan shares how embracing knowledge-driven pivots—like switching to tech in his late 20s—has fuelled his success. He unpacks the myths of financial freedom, tackles ageism in the workplace, and explains why modern careers require constant reinvention.
This is part two of a two-part series, offering a roadmap for navigating change, mastering skills, and living intentionally, no matter your stage in life.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Trap of Asset Rich, Cash Poor
“Financial independence isn’t about piling up assets like real estate without liquidity. It’s about understanding cash flow, compounding returns, and making smart investments tailored to your goals.”
Two Sides of the Same Coin
“Financial independence isn’t just about planning for tomorrow—it’s about defining today. The idea is to align your present choices with the freedom to pursue passions and live meaningfully.”
The Role of Finfluencers
“They offer quick tips and digestible content, often catering to a younger audience. But their motives can sometimes be tied to promotions—whether it’s a bank account or an investment product. Their advice might not always be impartial.”
A Balanced Perspective
“At Xillion, we take a different path. While we do share nuggets of wisdom on platforms like LinkedIn and TikTok, we focus on being our own voice of authority rather than relying on external influencers. This way, authenticity remains at the core of our brand.”
The 10-Year Career Mindset
“Careers aren’t linear 30-year paths anymore. Every decade or so, you need to rediscover yourself. I’ve done it multiple times—starting as a mechanical engineer, pivoting to programming, then management, and finally launching my own company. Reinvention is the new normal.”
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Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part One
13 dec· Chief Change Officer
From mechanical engineering in India to leading tech roles at Square and Atlassian in Silicon Valley, Gagan Sandhu’s career is a masterclass in adaptability and growth.
Now the CEO and Co-Founder of Xillion, a platform empowering financial independence, Gagan shares how embracing knowledge-driven pivots—like switching to tech in his late 20s—has fuelled his success. He unpacks the myths of financial freedom, tackles ageism in the workplace, and explains why modern careers require constant reinvention.
This is part one of a two-part series, offering a roadmap for navigating change, mastering skills, and living intentionally, no matter your stage in life.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Machines to Tech: Chasing the Future
“The pace of innovation in mechanical engineering had slowed, but I was hungry for more. Transitioning into tech wasn’t straightforward—it took continents, years, and relentless effort, but it was fueled by a clear driver: knowledge.”
The Xillion Leap
“When my learning plateaued in corporate roles, starting Zillion became my next knowledge adventure. Building something from scratch offered an accelerated learning curve and the chance to apply everything I’d gathered.”
Business School: Filling the Gaps
“For me, business school wasn’t about a career leap; it was about plugging knowledge gaps. Understanding accounting, marketing, and finance became crucial to having meaningful conversations at work, even as a tech leader.”
Redefining Financial Independence
“It’s not about flashy buzzwords or retiring early—it’s about having the freedom to choose your path. For me, it meant leaving the corporate grind to build something meaningful, armed with a clear, numbers-driven plan.”
Crunching the Numbers
“My financial independence formula wasn’t guesswork. I calculated five years of living expenses, education costs, and retirement needs. It’s basic math, but staying on top of expenses and cash flow gave me the clarity to leap.”
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Holly Bond: The Art of Moving Your Career Beyond the AI Checklist and Resume
12 dec· Chief Change Officer
Holly Bond, once a franchise owner and now the President of Facet Recruitment, spills the secrets of blending old-school charm with modern tech in recruiting.
From fax machine résumés to navigating an AI-driven hiring world, Holly’s seen it all. She dishes on the power of networking (spoiler: it’s not about business cards and stale canapés), the importance of bold moves (sometimes you just email anyway), and why being real beats AI algorithms every time. With wisdom, wit, and a knack for finding hidden talent, Holly reminds us that while AI might help, people are still the heart of every great hire.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Focus Groups to Foundations
“When we launched Facets, we started with brutal honesty: focus groups full of blunt feedback about recruiters. We listened, and we built a company rooted in empathy and care.”
Breaking the Commission Chain
“Recruiting isn’t about commissions; it’s about people. I refused to return to a model where clients matter more than candidates. Instead, I built a team paid for their passion, not percentages.”
Catching What AI Misses
“If AI had done my recruitment, I would’ve slipped through the cracks. Boolean searches don’t see potential outside the box. Humans do. That’s why we look beyond traditional roles, exploring adjacent sectors for talent.”
Spotting the Unsung Stars
“A recruiter’s superpower? Seeing someone’s potential before they do. When I reached out to a candidate in her 60s, she couldn’t believe I meant her. But age? It’s just a number—wisdom wins every time.”
Putting Yourself Out There
“Take risks, be bold, and let people know what you’re looking for. Whether it’s an informational interview or a thoughtful message, putting yourself out there often leads to unexpected opportunities—sometimes even before the job officially exists.”
The True Value of a Strong Network
“A broad network isn’t just about advancing your career; it’s about helping others too. Being able to connect someone to the right opportunity or advice is the most rewarding part of building genuine, lasting relationships.”
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Holly Bond: Building Fitness Franchise – From Basement Prototypes to National Headlines
12 dec· Chief Change Officer
Holly Bond, a serial entrepreneur and President of Facet Recruitment in Halifax, Canada, shares her transformative journey from building a groundbreaking children’s fitness franchise to navigating the tough lessons of entrepreneurship.
Holly’s story unpacks the highs and lows of taking bold leaps, from landing a national TV spot that kickstarted her franchise dreams to facing the brink of personal and professional loss. Through mentorship and hard-earned wisdom, Holly reveals the importance of listening to trusted advisors, learning from failure, and maintaining the courage to take risks. Her candid reflections inspire listeners to embrace change, make bold moves, and never let fear of failure hold them back.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Highs and the Crash
“We sold 11 franchises, won awards, and partnered with an animation company to integrate exercise into kids’ shows. Then the 2009 recession hit, and it all came crashing down. But every tough moment was a lesson in resilience.”
From Local to Global Buzz
“After a single news segment, I came home to over 100 emails from people wanting franchises—from Canada to Dubai. It was surreal, exciting, and chaotic. I had to build the plane while flying it.”
Racing Against Time
“I’ve always felt like I’m running to catch up, maybe because I took 17 years to finish my degree or because my mom passed away at the age I am now. That sense of urgency—it’s hardwired into me.”
The Fear of Regret
“I don’t want to be 85 and look back saying, ‘I wish I’d done that.’ There’s so much to explore, so many industries to dive into. I just can’t imagine stopping.”
Reflection in Progress
“My son recently asked me, ‘Why can’t you just enjoy life?’ It’s a question I’m sitting with. Maybe it’s time to slow down, but for now, the drive to conquer still burns bright.”
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Juliana Schroeder Phd: How to Stay Human in a World of AI Machines
11 dec· Chief Change Officer
Juliana Schroeder, Associate Professor at UC Berkeley Haas School of Business, unpacks the evolving dynamics of communication in the human-machine era.
Juliana dives into the intersection of human and machine interaction, highlighting how technological advancements like generative AI are reshaping how we connect, collaborate, and convey ideas. From leveraging paralinguistic cues to mastering the art of switching between communication modalities, Juliana emphasizes the timeless value of empathy, adaptability, and emotional intelligence in navigating a world increasingly mediated by technology.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Mind Behind the Machine
“AI isn’t just changing technology; it’s reshaping how we think, act, and perceive power. When virtual assistants act human-like, they give users a psychological boost that can even alter decision-making.”
Confirmation Bias Central
“When users consult ChatGPT, it often mirrors their ideas, reinforcing their thoughts. It’s a colleague that nods a lot but rarely challenges, creating a unique kind of echo chamber.”
Medium Matters
“From text to video to voice, the platform you choose shapes how your message lands. Want to make a strong first impression? Skip the text and go for face-to-face—or at least a well-delivered elevator pitch.”
Humanize the Experience
“Paralinguistic cues—like tone of voice and facial expressions—are what make conversations truly human. To connect, think beyond words and embrace the richness of full-spectrum communication.”
High Stakes, High Scrutiny
“In critical domains like hiring, people demand transparency. The idea of an algorithm handling everything creates unease, sparking backlash when decisions feel like they emerge from a ‘black box.’”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Juliana Schroeder, PHD
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Mary Shea PhD: Cracking the Code for Hidden Talent
10 dec· Chief Change Officer
Mary Shea, General Manager for North America at HireQuotient and former co-CEO of Mediafly, takes us on a tech-fueled journey through the wild world of AI-driven hiring.
From cracking the code on hidden talent pools to dodging ghosting recruiters, Mary’s got tips for everyone—job seekers, recruiters, and those just trying to figure out if their LinkedIn profile is detailed enough. She even schools us on networking, blending classic human touch with digital-era wizardry. If you’ve ever wondered how to outsmart the bots while keeping your humanity intact, this episode is your playbook—with a side of humor and heart.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
AI as a Recruiter’s Right Hand
“Offloading 75% of the recruiting workload, generative AI and automation work overtime, tackling bias and sourcing talent far beyond the usual platforms.”
Beyond LinkedIn
“Why limit your search to one platform? With integrations across tools like Crunchbase and Apollo, HireQuotient casts a wide net, uncovering passive and active candidates who often fly under the radar.”
Championing Diversity
“When male-dominated results dominated a recruiter’s search, HireQuotient adapted with a few new prompts, demonstrating how AI can open doors for underrepresented talent.”
White Glove Experience, AI-Style
“Automation doesn’t mean impersonal. By automating outreach and early-stage screening, recruiters had more time to build personal connections and keep candidates engaged.”
Omnichannel Humanity
“Use every channel, but never forget the power of face-to-face. It’s not just networking; it’s feeding your humanity.”
The Human Advantage
“AI might read resumes, but humans hire. Keep networking, stay visible, and remember that meaningful relationships can outlast any algorithm.”
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Greg Morley: Turning DEI Drama into Workplace Wins – Part Two
10 dec· Chief Change Officer
Greg Morley isn’t your average HR guy. He’s the former DEI and HR head at Moët Hennessy, Disney, and Hasbro—and the brains behind Bond, the book on belonging your workplace desperately needs.
In Part 2 of this two-part series, Greg breaks down the complexities of implementing DEI in global organizations. He shares how rewiring systems—not just setting quotas—creates real inclusion. From tackling unconscious bias to aligning leadership with grassroots energy, Greg highlights the power of authentic cultural shifts. He also contrasts Eastern and Western DEI strategies, showing how understanding local values can foster belonging.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Crisis of Workplace Loneliness
“Workplace loneliness isn’t just a personal issue—it’s a challenge organizations must tackle to foster belonging and inclusion.”
The Employee-Employer Power Flip
“The workplace dynamic has shifted—it’s now a buyer’s market for employees who demand recognition, safety, and belonging.”
Redefining Diversity
“Diversity isn’t just what you see—it’s also life experiences, generational perspectives, languages, and abilities, visible or hidden. Most of our diversity at work is invisible. Who someone marries, whether they have kids, or cognitive differences often go unnoticed—but they matter.”
Start With Yourself
“Change begins within. Reflecting on personal experiences of inclusion or exclusion can help leaders empathize and create a more welcoming environment for others.”
East Meets West
“In the East, inclusion feels more organic, driven by community and connection. In the West, it’s often about achieving measurable outcomes and hitting diversity targets.”
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Greg Morley: Turning DEI Drama into Workplace Wins – Part One
9 dec· Chief Change Officer
Greg Morley isn’t your average HR guy. He’s the former DEI and HR head at Moët Hennessy, Disney, and Hasbro—and the brains behind Bond, the book on belonging your workplace desperately needs.
In Part 1 of this two-part series, Greg spills how to ditch boring corporate jargon and actually create cultures where people feel seen, heard, and ready to crush it. From rewiring outdated systems to tackling bias head-on, Greg brings humor, grit, and a whole lot of wisdom. Oh, and he’ll show you why making your team feel like they belong isn’t just “nice”—it’s how you win.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Inspiration Behind the Book
“The idea for my first book, Bond, came from a friend’s suggestion that I had an obligation to share my experiences. That idea sparked a journey to explore what it takes for any organization to create a true sense of belonging.”
Cutting Through the Noise
“In a world polarized by amplified voices on the extremes—whether labeled woke or anti-woke—my focus is on the middle ground. Most people want to feel safe, heard, and valued at work, free from political distractions.”
A Sandwich Approach to DEI
“Balancing a top-down strategy with grassroots alignment ensures each Maison retains its uniqueness while embracing broader organizational values to drive meaningful DEI outcomes.”
Facing the First Challenge: Self-Awareness
“The journey began with unconscious bias training for all employees, helping them recognize unintentional biases shaped by upbringing or experience. This laid the groundwork for open, honest conversations about diversity and inclusion.”
Leadership Advocacy is Key
“There’s nothing more powerful than a CEO advocating for DEI consistently. A strong top-down message, combined with grassroots energy, creates the momentum needed for real change.”
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Mary Shea PhD: From Oboes to Outcomes – A Journey Through Change and Sales Leadership – Part Two
8 dec· Chief Change Officer
In the second episode of this two-part series, Mary Shea, General Manager of Hire Quotient and former co-CEO of Mediafly, delves into the co-CEOship model—a rising approach in today’s complex business landscape.
With growing challenges for single leaders, she explains how trust, complementary skills, and shared vision are essential for success. Mary candidly discusses the model’s benefits, like shared workload and greater impact, alongside challenges like slower decision-making. She also highlights the importance of open communication, board oversight, and coaching as “umpires” to navigate conflicts. This episode offers timely insights for leaders exploring innovative ways to thrive in a rapidly changing world.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
AI’s Impact on Sales Teams
“AI is paving the way for smaller, more agile sales teams, moving away from the traditional 80/20 rule toward a future where 80% of the team delivers 100% of the revenue.”
The Rise of the Consultant Seller
“AI acts as a coach on the salesperson’s shoulder, helping them become more advisory-oriented, and enabling deeper impact in customer interactions.”
Why Two CEOs?
“In today’s complex world, no single leader can address everything, from geopolitical challenges to the rapid pace of AI innovation. The co-CEO model allows for a divide-and-conquer approach.”
Challenges of Co-Leadership
“Decision-making can be slower, and sometimes we wish we could just do things our way. But alignment is key, and when it works, it’s incredibly impactful.”
Who’s the Umpire?
“Our ‘umpire’ is our investor and board. If we truly can’t resolve a disagreement, we rely on their input as the ultimate decision-maker.”
The Professional Marriage
“Co-CEOship is like a professional marriage—it requires resilience, commitment, and sometimes even a ‘marriage counselor’ in the form of an executive coach to navigate tough patches.”
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Mary Shea PhD: From Oboes to Outcomes – A Journey Through Change and Sales Leadership – Part One
7 dec· Chief Change Officer
In this first episode of a two-part series, Mary Shea, General Manager of Hire Quotient and former co-CEO of Mediafly, shares her remarkable journey from classical musician to sales leader and diversity advocate.
Mary reflects on the pivotal moments that shaped her career, including the risks she’s taken and the transformative lessons learned. As a proud member of the LGBTQ community, she discusses her mission to amplify underrepresented voices and drive equity in sales leadership.
Drawing from her time as Principal Analyst at Forrester, Mary provides valuable insights into the digitization of sales and the role of creativity in building high-performing teams. Packed with passion, advocacy, and actionable advice, this episode sets the stage for an inspiring conclusion in Part Two.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Music to Business
“I started as a classical musician, playing with the Mexico City Philharmonic and Guadalajara Symphony. But when the career palette felt too small, I took a leap into business, changing my life forever.”
Sales: The Great Equalizer
“Sales is one of the few fields where hard work and skill can lead to financial independence, regardless of where you start. That independence allows you to make meaningful changes in your life and others’.”
Playing Catch-Up with Purpose
“Coming into the business world with a PhD put me 10 years behind my peers, but it also ignited a fire. I moved quickly, knowing every opportunity was critical to closing that gap.”
Creating the Playbook
“I’m not just about managing to a playbook—I love creating it. The intellectual stimulation of building strategies with teams and seeing them succeed is what drives me.”
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James Hilovsky: Guiding NBA and NFL Athletes Through the Bridge of Sports and Franchising – Part Two
7 dec· Chief Change Officer
In this second episode of the two-part series, James Hilovsky delves deeper into the mindset and qualities required for success in franchising.
Drawing on his extensive experience, James highlights the flip side of athletic traits—how passion and ego can sometimes derail franchisees, but how the right systems and guidance can bring them back on track. He shares insights into why franchising isn’t just about following a playbook but also about owning your business and betting on yourself.
For corporate professionals and non-athletes, James emphasizes the importance of overcoming fear, finding the right franchise fit, and partnering with a supportive franchisor. Packed with actionable advice, this episode is a must-listen for anyone ready to take the leap into franchising and build something truly their own.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
When Ego Enters the Game
“For highly successful athletes, ego can become a stumbling block. In their circle, they’re often surrounded by ‘yes’ people—but in franchising, the system is the boss.”
Coachable or Combative?
“Not every athlete thrives in a franchise model. If they’re resistant to coaching or feel they don’t need the franchise system, they might be better suited for entrepreneurship.”
From Control to Chaos
“Athletes transition from highly controlled environments to the unpredictable world of business. Education and mindset shifts are crucial to navigate these new challenges.”
The Athlete’s Advantage: Resilience
“Athletes are no strangers to failure. In baseball, hitting .300 is a win—despite failing seven out of ten times. That resilience becomes a powerful tool in business.”
The Franchisor as a Partner
“Your franchisor should be more than a brand—they’re your business partner. Look for one that offers strong support and aligns with your vision for success.”
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James Hilovsky: Guiding NBA and NFL Athletes Through the Bridge of Sports and Franchising – Part One
6 dec· Chief Change Officer
In this first episode of a two-part series, James Hilovsky takes us from the baseball field to the world of franchising, sharing how athletes possess unique qualities that make them exceptional business owners.
Having transitioned from professional sports to a successful career in the restaurant and franchise industries, James highlights the parallels between following a coach’s playbook and executing a franchise system. With a focus on risk-taking, leadership, and embracing coaching, James explains how athletes are naturally equipped to thrive in franchising. He also shares his passion for guiding athletes and professionals through the franchising process, helping them avoid pitfalls and find opportunities that align with their goals.
Whether you’re an athlete or just looking to take the leap into business, this episode offers valuable insights to inspire your journey.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Baseball to Business
“My baseball career was short-lived due to injury, but transitioning to the restaurant industry felt natural. It was another kind of team—working together toward a shared goal.”
Systems That Lead to Success
“Franchises, like sports leagues, refine their systems to avoid pitfalls. They hand franchisees a proven playbook to help them stay on course and achieve their goals.”
Athletes and Franchising: A Natural Fit
“Athletes already understand the value of following systems and being part of a team. That mindset translates seamlessly into running a successful franchise.”
From Coach to Franchisor
“In the franchise world, the franchisor acts like a head coach—laying out the strategies, providing guidance, and ensuring the business operates at peak performance.”
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Wayland Lum: From Corporate Comfort to Purposeful Leadership
6 dec· Chief Change Officer
In this episode, Wayland Lum, CEO of Copperbox Leadership Advisory and former leader at Chicago Booth, Korn Ferry, and Nvidia, shares his journey from art supplies to boardrooms.
Blending creativity with business psychology, Wayland redefines what it means to be a modern leader. With a passion for helping leaders reach their full potential, he explains how betting on oneself can lead to transformational change—not just in business, but in life.
From navigating the balance of fear and courage to embracing core purpose, Wayland reveals the power of leadership grounded in authenticity and impact. His insights extend far beyond corporate walls, showing how intentional leadership can create a ripple effect that positively shapes the world. If you’ve ever considered stepping out of your comfort zone and betting on your own vision, this episode will leave you inspired—and maybe a little bit braver.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Breaking Free from Prestige
“Leaving prestigious organizations for my own leadership practice wasn’t easy. Many stick to the comfort of a stable paycheck and a corporate name—but I felt called to something more.”
Why Modern Leadership Matters
“In a world of constant flux, leadership grounded in systemic and timeless principles offers the resilience and clarity needed to navigate both societal and business challenges.”
The Private Equity Sprint
“Private equity moves fast. Our work helps leaders in portfolio companies close leadership gaps quickly, aligning their capabilities with quarter-by-quarter business demands.”
Inspiration Starts Within
“To inspire others, you must first be inspired. Your energy, your spark, comes from operating with purpose—and trust me, people can tell if it’s there or not.”
The Wisdom of Acceptance
“Modern leadership is about accepting the full spectrum of emotions—joy, fear, grief, and love—and leading with a wisdom that reflects this understanding of human nature.”
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