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Part Three.
Welcome to a special three-part series with Colin Savage. weâll dive into Colinâs fascinating journey as a self-proclaimed change addict turned change guru. Colinâs career spans continents, cultures, and industriesâseven countries lived in, seven more seconded to, and projects in over 70 nations. From organizational transformation to personal reinvention, heâs mastered the art of embracing change and applying those lessons to life.
Here, weâll explore the learning required for transformationâwhy Colin believes lifelong learning is outdated and skill stacking is the future. And finally, weâll tackle AI, human intelligence, and why every one of us needs a personal AI strategy.
Buckle upâthis oneâs a ride!
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Skill Stacking: Building the Professional Toolkit
âSkill stacking, by contrast, is about curating abilities that complement one another professionally. Itâs not about learning everything, but about combining practical skillsâlike emotional intelligence and technical expertiseâto tackle complex challenges with a well-rounded approach.â
AI as a Symphony, Not a Solo
âThe real power of AI lies in its harmony with other tools and disciplines. No single tool can address every need, but by leveraging the strengths of multiple technologies in concert, professionals can tackle challenges faster, smarter, and more effectively.â
Cheating AI? The Consequences Are Real
âFrom students to professionals, relying on AI without human effort leads to steep penalties. A student might fail, a professional might face fraud charges. The higher the stakes, the more critical it is to leverageânot outsourceâhuman intelligence.â
From Problem-Solving to Value Creation
âAI isnât just a tool for fixing problemsâitâs a way to grow and extend whatâs already working. By pairing the strengths of people and machines, businesses can unlock untapped potential and deliver results that werenât possible before.
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Part Two.
Welcome to a special three-part series with Colin Savage. weâll dive into Colinâs fascinating journey as a self-proclaimed change addict turned change guru. Colinâs career spans continents, cultures, and industriesâseven countries lived in, seven more seconded to, and projects in over 70 nations. From organizational transformation to personal reinvention, heâs mastered the art of embracing change and applying those lessons to life.
Here, weâll explore the learning required for transformationâwhy Colin believes lifelong learning is outdated and skill stacking is the future. And finally, weâll tackle AI, human intelligence, and why every one of us needs a personal AI strategy.
Buckle upâthis oneâs a ride!
Key Highlight of Our Interview:The Kung Fu Panda Approach to Change
âWise, measured, and reflectiveâthe best change leaders channel their inner âKung Fu Panda turtle.â Fewer words, deeper thought, and a collective approach to charting the path forward. Because real insight comes when you listen more than you speak.â
Why Collective Decisions Matter
âMaking life-altering changes isnât a solo act. Consulting with those affectedâbe it family, colleagues, or friendsâadds invaluable perspectives. Ignoring this step risks blind spots and unanticipated challenges that could have been addressed earlier.â
Lifelong Learning: The Good, the Bad, and the Outdated
âWhile lifelong learning emphasizes constant self-improvement, it often lacks focus. Simply chasing degrees, certifications, or skills without purpose can lead to a disjointed portfolio of knowledge. The real magic happens when learning is intentional and builds toward expertise.â
Skill Stacking as a Career Superpower
âFocused learning that combines seemingly unrelated skills can redefine your career trajectory. Itâs not just about learning for the sake of itâitâs about intentionally connecting knowledge areas to create a broader, more adaptable toolkit for the future.â
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Part One.
Welcome to a special three-part series with Colin Savage. weâll dive into Colinâs fascinating journey as a self-proclaimed change addict turned change guru. Colinâs career spans continents, cultures, and industriesâseven countries lived in, seven more seconded to, and projects in over 70 nations. From organizational transformation to personal reinvention, heâs mastered the art of embracing change and applying those lessons to life.
Here, weâll explore the learning required for transformationâwhy Colin believes lifelong learning is outdated and skill stacking is the future. And finally, weâll tackle AI, human intelligence, and why every one of us needs a personal AI strategy.
Buckle upâthis oneâs a ride!
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Chasing Novelty vs. Finding Purpose
âItâs easy to leap into new opportunities just because they look exciting. But whatâs the endgame? Without a deeper reason or plan, chasing novelty can leave you with unfinished experiences and a string of âalmost-thereâ moments. Purpose turns adventures into meaningful chapters.â
Addicted to Change: Thrill or Trap?
âAddiction to novelty isnât inherently badâit pushes boundaries and opens up opportunities. But unbridled chasing without reflection or completion risks shallow experiences. The key? Balancing the thrill of change with the discipline to extract value from every leap.â
Change as a Tool, Not a Fix
âChange for the sake of novelty often leads to dissatisfaction. Instead, approach change as a tool for growth, not a quick fix. Thoughtfully evaluate your motives, assess your readiness, and embrace change as a means to align with your purposeânot as an escape from discomfort.â
Japan: A Surprising Example of Measured Change
âEven in traditionally conservative cultures, like Japanâs life insurance industry, meaningful change can thrive. Success here came not from disruption but from careful planning, patience, and conversations that built consensus. Change, when handled thoughtfully, can flourish even in the most traditional environments.â
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Part Two.
Ever left a toxic boss or workplace, hoping for a fresh start, only to land in the same chaos at your new job? Itâs a frustratingly common cycle.
The truth is, office politics are everywhere. From power plays and subtle maneuvers to that colleague who always seems to win, navigating workplace dynamics can be exhausting.
In this two-part series, leadership expert Jennifer Selby Long joins me to unpack why office politics happen, how some people thrive in politically charged environments, and why others struggle. Weâll explore toxic cultures, power dynamics, and the hidden forces shaping your work lifeâand how to navigate them without losing yourself along the way.
Feeling stuck or burned out? These episodes are packed with relatable stories and actionable insights to help you take your next step forward.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Talent vs. Tactics: Why Performance Alone Doesnât Guarantee Success
âIn corporate environments, itâs often not the most skilled or hardworking employees who thriveâitâs those adept at navigating office politics. Top performers may drive results, but their brilliance can threaten insecure leaders, creating a system where political tact outshines true talent.â
The Right Culture for the Right Person
âSome thrive in competitive political environments; others find them draining. The key is identifying whether your personal interests align with the culture around you. The fit matters more than fighting a system that may not suit you.â
No Permanent Friends, No Permanent EnemiesâJust Interests
âDrawing from the wisdom of Martin Luther Kingâs attorney, Clarence Jones: the game of politics is about aligning interests, not forging everlasting alliances. Understanding this can shift how you approach your workplace dynamics.â
Burnout and Disengagement: The Fallout of Neglecting Talent
âWhen talent is neither respected nor recognized, it creates a workplace rife with disengagement and burnout. Organizations lose not just individuals but the potential for meaningful progress, leaving behind a culture where playing the game matters more than delivering value.â
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Part One.
Ever left a toxic boss or workplace, hoping for a fresh start, only to land in the same chaos at your new job? Itâs a frustratingly common cycle.
The truth is, office politics are everywhere. From power plays and subtle maneuvers to that colleague who always seems to win, navigating workplace dynamics can be exhausting.
In this two-part series, leadership expert Jennifer Selby Long joins me to unpack why office politics happen, how some people thrive in politically charged environments, and why others struggle. Weâll explore toxic cultures, power dynamics, and the hidden forces shaping your work lifeâand how to navigate them without losing yourself along the way.
Feeling stuck or burned out? These episodes are packed with relatable stories and actionable insights to help you take your next step forward.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Finding Your Ally Among the Majority
âIn political environments, success hinges on securing a powerful ally. Aligning your interests with theirs and elevating them as a leader in your cause is essential if you plan to stay and thrive in such an environment.â
When Conversations Clash, Progress Pauses
âBusiness meetings often default to task-focused debates where differing perspectives turn into verbal standoffs. Rarely do teams pause to acknowledge the conflict and approach it constructively, missing opportunities to uncover deeper understanding.â
No Permanent Friends, No Permanent EnemiesâJust Interests
âDrawing from the wisdom of Martin Luther Kingâs attorney, Clarence Jones: the game of politics is about aligning interests, not forging everlasting alliances. Understanding this can shift how you approach your workplace dynamics.â
Assumptions: The Silent Saboteur
âMost conflicts arise not from genuine disagreement but from unchecked assumptions about othersâ motives or goals. Pausing to clarify and validate these assumptions can eliminate a significant portion of perceived conflict.â
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Part Two.
Iâm joined by Nellie Wartoft, someone I like to call the chief change officer behind change leaders. Originally from Europe, sheâs spent years in Asiaâespecially Singaporeâworking across cultures. Now based in the U.S., Nellie is the founder and CEO of Tiger Hall, a tech-driven platform helping organizations navigate change more effectively.
This is part two of a two-part series.
In these episodes, weâll dive into navigating cultural differences across three regions, why most change initiatives fail, and how to set up for success. If youâve ever struggled with changeâwhether in your career, company, or lifeâthis series is for you.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Hating SharePoint and Finding a Better Way
âThe inefficiency of tools like SharePoint highlighted a fundamental gap: employees struggling to align with HQâs vision. Miscommunication bred resistance and fatigue, even when both sides had good intentions. The question aroseâwhy canât change communication be as engaging as social media or Spotify?â
The Universal Human Side of Change
âNo matter where you are in the world, the human psyche reacts similarly to changeâfear, chaos, uncertainty, and emotion are universal experiences. Change fatigue and resistance arenât cultural anomalies; theyâre deeply human responses shared across geographies.â
The Ego Factor: A Leadership Killer
âHigh-ego, high-fear leaders stifle transformation. They resist feedback, take criticism personally, and foster a top-down, do-as-I-say culture. Modern transformation demands collaborative leadership that embraces input, fosters trust, and thrives on dialogueânot outdated command-and-control styles.â
âShort-Term Results vs. Long-Term Visionâ
âU.S. organizations prioritize quarterly results and trend-driven decisions, like the AI boom. Meanwhile, Asian companies often take a more measured, long-term approach, rooted in heritage and identity. Both approaches have their strengths but lead to vastly different paces of execution.â
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Part One.
Iâm joined by Nellie Wartoft, someone I like to call the chief change officer behind change leaders. Originally from Europe, sheâs spent years in Asiaâespecially Singaporeâworking across cultures. Now based in the U.S., Nellie is the founder and CEO of Tiger Hall, a tech-driven platform helping organizations navigate change more effectively.
This is part one of a two-part series.
In these episodes, weâll dive into navigating cultural differences across three regions, why most change initiatives fail, and how to set up for success. If youâve ever struggled with changeâwhether in your career, company, or lifeâthis series is for you.Key Highlights of Our Interview
More Cows Than People: The Swedish Small-Town Origin Story
âGrowing up in a small village in southern Swedenâpopulation: lots of cows, not many humansâinstilled an early drive to explore bigger horizons. For professional and cultural reasons, leaving was a must.â
The McDonaldâs Effect: Discovering Professional Passions
âThe guest credits their time flipping burgers at McDonaldâs as a pivotal moment in shaping their career. It was there they discovered their love for three key elements: a high-paced environment, the thrill of commercial success, and the art of leadership. These âprofessional addictionsâ would become the foundation of every role they pursued.â
Resilience and Identity: Anchoring Yourself Beyond Titles
âBasing your identity on external factors like job titles or status is a risky gameâwhat happens if theyâre taken away? Instead, ground your sense of self in unshakable traits: hard work, learning, good intentions, or resilience. These are constants, no matter what life throws your way.â
Life of Adventure vs. Life of Leisure
âChallenging societal norms, the guest recounts a thought-provoking quote: âA life of leisure is hell, and a life of adventure and purpose is heaven.â From childhood, weâre often told to seek rest and relaxation, but the guest argues that purpose and adventure are what truly give life meaning.â
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Part Two.
In this 2-part series, we sat down with Robert MacPhee. From parking cars to co-piloting lives, Robert has gone full throttle with his best-selling book Living a Values-Based Life
A former right-hand man to Chicken Soup for the Soulâs Jack Canfield, Robert now helps people figure out their lifeâs GPSâor rather, their VBS (Values-Based System).Why are we so bad at knowing what we actually value? How can aligning your actions with your core values make work feel less like work? And why does he have such strong opinions about clarity?
Robert dishes out wisdom with a side of wit, helping us tackle lifeâs big questions with plenty of âahaâ moments and a few laughs along the way.
Key Highlights of Our Interviews:
Why Itâs So Hard to Define Our Own Values
âMost peopleâs initial list of values often reflects what they think others want to hear. Weâre so conditioned to impress others or meet external expectations that itâs challenging to pause and ask: What truly matters to me? The real magic begins when we strip away external noise and align with our authentic priorities.âHow a Values-Based Life Can Improve Work
âClarity about values doesnât just make personal life betterâitâs transformative for work too. Aligning your actions with priorities like contribution or integrity can help you show up fully, even in challenging moments. That alignment makes work feel purposeful instead of draining.âDo Values Change Over Time? The Short Answer: Yes.
âValues arenât set in stoneâthey evolve with life stages and circumstances. For instance, what mattered to you in high school may be worlds apart from what tops your list in your sixties or seventies. Life experiences, like becoming a parent or caring for aging loved ones, naturally shift our focus, making values an ongoing conversation, not a one-time declaration.âKeeping Values Visible
âThe importance of keeping your values front and center canât be overstated. Whether on your phone, bathroom mirror, or bedside table, revisiting your values regularly keeps them aligned with your current life stage. A daily reminder to reflect, re-anchor, and adjust ensures your values stay relevant.â
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Part One.
In this 2-part series, we sat down with Robert MacPhee. From parking cars to co-piloting lives, Robert has gone full throttle with his best-selling book Living a Values-Based Life
A former right-hand man to Chicken Soup for the Soulâs Jack Canfield, Robert now helps people figure out their lifeâs GPSâor rather, their VBS (Values-Based System).Why are we so bad at knowing what we actually value? How can aligning your actions with your core values make work feel less like work? And why does he have such strong opinions about clarity?
Robert dishes out wisdom with a side of wit, helping us tackle lifeâs big questions with plenty of âahaâ moments and a few laughs along the way.
Key Highlights of Our Interviews:
A Masterclass with Jack Canfield
âI was fortunate to work closely with Jack Canfield, the co-creator of Chicken Soup for the Soul. Over nearly a decade, I learned invaluable lessons about personal development and training, which inspired me to branch out and develop my own conceptâExcellent Decisions.â
Living a Values-Based Life
âMy current focus, and the heart of my book, Living a Values-Based Life, is helping people clarify their most important values. Once theyâre clear on those, they can create a lifeâand in many cases, a businessâthat truly aligns with what matters most to them.â
What Are Values, Really?
âAt its core, values are whatâs most important to us. They define how we want to show up in the world and guide the ways we choose to be. When we are clear about our values, they become a compass, fundamentally shifting how we navigate life and work."
Why Are Values So Hard to Define?
âMost people struggle to articulate their values simply because no one teaches them how. Schools donât prioritize it, and while parents might model certain values, they often donât have the tools to guide their children through truly understanding and clarifying their highest values. Itâs not intuitive, and itâs certainly not a one-hour workshopâitâs a journey.â
Values Are More Than Ideals; Theyâre Tools
âWithout clearly defined values, navigating life is like walking blindfolded. You may move forward, but without a compass, you risk heading in the wrong direction. Society constantly pushes external markers like money, cars, or houses as measures of success. But aligning goals with deeply personal values, like strengthening family relationships or contributing to a cause, brings fulfillment and focus.â
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Ral West is the kind of person you meet and immediately think, âWow, sheâs lived a life.â Over 40 years as an entrepreneur, her story is full of twists and turns.
In her mid-twenties, she took a leap and started her first business. That was just the beginning. For 25 years, she and her husband ran a charter air service between Alaska and Hawaii, flying wide-body jets. Eventually, they sold it to Alaska Airlinesâa huge milestone, but not the end of her journey.
Sheâs owned small cruise ships, invested in real estate, and kept building.
And now? Sheâs helping other entrepreneurs figure out the same thing she did: how to run a business and have a life. Her story is inspiring, real, and packed with lessons for anyone chasing big dreams.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Challenging Generational Norms
âEarly in my career, working for my father, I hit the glass ceiling. He came from a different generation, and his views were, letâs say, a bit old-fashioned. But I decided, âThanks, DadâIâll take it from here.â And I broke away to chart my own path.â
Juggling Act: The Exhausting Middle Years
âBetween 35 and 55, I was stretched thinârunning a business, raising young kids, volunteering. Sleep felt like a luxury. My health suffered, my marriage struggled, and I couldnât do it all.â
The Breakthrough: Building Systems and Letting Go
âI learned the hard way that trying to do everything myself wasnât sustainable. I created systems, implemented processes, and built a team I could trust. Using metrics and data-driven management, I structured my business so it could run smoothlyâwhether I was there or not.âThe Slow Burn of Transformation
âBuilding systems, processes, and a reliable team didnât happen overnight. It was years in the making. I started smallâreading books like The E-Myth by Michael Gerber, going back to college, and studying with mentors like Robert Kiyosaki. Each step added a piece to the puzzle.â
Bite-Sized Delegation: Starting Small
âYou donât need massive financial success to start delegating. It starts with breaking down your daily tasks into bite-sized pieces and identifying what you can transfer to someone else.â
Turning Intuition Into Systems
âOne of my toughest challenges was documenting decision-making processesâlike when to increase advertising spend. It took weeks of introspection and trial and error before I realized I was relying on sales trends over a three-day period. Once I had clarity, I turned it into a system my team could follow, even when I wasnât there.â
Creating Culture: Embodying Values and Principles
âIt wasnât just about systems and metrics; it was about building a team that shared my values. From customer service to feedback collection, we worked hard to create a culture that prioritized our principles.â
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Part Two.
Todayâs guest is Erin Diehl, founder and CEO of Improve It, a company that uses improv to help teams grow and thrive. Like me, sheâs also a top podcast host!
From a young age, Erin dreamed of becoming a talk show host. Why did she choose that path? And how did her journey lead her to combine improv and business?
I told Erin, âYouâre in the business of joy.â
But beyond joy, we also talked about failure. Erin calls herself a âfailfluencerââa blend of failure and influence. This two-part series dives into her unique approach to joy, failure, growth, and learning.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
WTF: Worst Terrifying Failure
â2020 was my crash course in failure. The pandemic forced our in-person business to pivot entirely online overnight. At the same time, I juggled new motherhood, supporting a recovering parent, and trying to keep my business afloat. It was my WTF moment: my Worst Terrifying Failure.â
This breakdown captures the essence of the MOVE ON methodology:
1. Marinate: Sit With It, Not In It
Failure isnât something you can brush off overnight. Take the time to sit with your worst terrifying failureâyour WTF story. Reflect deeply. Walk, journal, or simply allow yourself to process. Itâs about feeling without rushing to fix.
2. Own It: Forgive and Face the Thought Worms
âOwn your part in the failure, but more importantly, forgive yourself. We repeat 80% of our negative thoughts daily, so break that cycle. Recognize those thought worms for what they are and stop letting them dictate your story.â
3. Verify the Lessons: What Will You Take With You?
âFailure comes bearing lessonsâtwo or three takeaways that you can carry forward. Identify what youâve learned and how youâll avoid the same pitfalls in the future. This step transforms failure into wisdom.â
4. Evaluate: Whatâs the Plan?
5. Observe the Growth: Prepare for the Next Chapter
6. Embrace Failure as Part of Change
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Part One.
Todayâs guest is Erin Diehl, founder and CEO of Improve It, a company that uses improv to help teams grow and thrive. Like me, sheâs also a top podcast host!
From a young age, Erin dreamed of becoming a talk show host. Why did she choose that path? And how did her journey lead her to combine improv and business?
I told Erin, âYouâre in the business of joy.â
But beyond joy, we also talked about failure. Erin calls herself a âfailfluencerââa blend of failure and influence. This two-part series dives into her unique approach to joy, failure, growth, and learning.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Improv Meets the Corporate World
âI didnât plan to merge improv and business. But during my nine-to-five at a recruiting firm, my nights were dedicated to stages at Second City and ImprovOlympic. Suddenly, I saw how listening, empathy, and quick thinking from improv transformed my work life. The dots connected.â
United We Innovate
âPitching an improv workshop to United Airlines was a gamble, but it paid offâliterally. What started as a passion experiment became a calling when United became my first paying client. Improv wasnât just for the stage anymore.â
The Teacherâs HighâThat feeling of guiding someone toward growth is intoxicating. Itâs a high I kept chasing, and the more I taught, the more I wanted to do it. Seeing others find joy became my own source of joy.â
From ROI to ROO: The Objective Shift
âWe donât measure ROI; we measure ROOâReturn on Objective. Every engagement starts with a consult call to pinpoint your specific challenges and objectives, ensuring everything aligns with the participantsâ needs.â
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Part Two.
I sit down with Nina Sossamon-Pogue, a former professional gymnast who started her journey at just four years old and went on to join the U.S. Gymnastics Team.
In her own words, gymnastics is a perfect example of resilienceâyou literally fall down and get back up, all day, every day, as you learn new skills. That mindset became part of Ninaâs DNA, and it carried her through some incredible twists and turns.
From the heartbreak of not making the Olympic team to leaving the sport for good after an injury, she faced one identity crisis after another. But she didnât stop there. Nina built a successful journalism career that spanned 17 years, only to be let go, despite being a beloved news anchor. And instead of staying down, she jumped into techâstarting from scratchâand reinvented herself yet again.
Yesterday, in part one of our conversation, we looked into Ninaâs journey. Her training, her triumphs, and her setbacks. Then, today, in part two, weâll explore the tools Nina has developed over the years to help others rise above their challenges. Tools like the Reverse Resume and Successful Timeline. Weâre not talking about your typical resume or conventional ideas of successâweâre going beyond that.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Why the Reverse Resume Matters
âWhen hiring, I ask, âWhatâs something youâve overcome?â Thatâs where the magic is. Those bottom-line moments define the strength you bring to every table.â
The Power of Perspective: Achievements and Challenges Togetherâ
âYour resume tells one story, but your reverse resume tells the deeper truth: what youâve overcome. Together, they define not just what youâve done, but who you are.â
âSuccess vs. a Successful Lifetime: Spot the Differenceâ
âA nice car, a big house, a shiny jetâthatâs success. But a successful lifetime? Thatâs the legacy, the relationships, the impact. The timeline reveals the whole messy, marvelous story.â
Life is a Bag of Legos
âImagine dumping out a Ziploc bag full of Legos. Same colors, same shapes, same pieces. Yet, youâd build something entirely different from me. Thatâs your lifeâitâs uniquely yours to assemble.â
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Part One.
I sit down with Nina Sossamon-Pogue, a former professional gymnast who started her journey at just four years old and went on to join the U.S. Gymnastics Team.
In her own words, gymnastics is a perfect example of resilienceâyou literally fall down and get back up, all day, every day, as you learn new skills. That mindset became part of Ninaâs DNA, and it carried her through some incredible twists and turns.
From the heartbreak of not making the Olympic team to leaving the sport for good after an injury, she faced one identity crisis after another. But she didnât stop there. Nina built a successful journalism career that spanned 17 years, only to be let go, despite being a beloved news anchor. And instead of staying down, she jumped into techâstarting from scratchâand reinvented herself yet again.
Today, in part one of our conversation, weâre diving into Ninaâs journey. Her training, her triumphs, and her setbacks. Then, tomorrow, in part two, weâll explore the tools Nina has developed over the years to help others rise above their challenges. Tools like the Reverse Resume and Successful Timeline. Weâre not talking about your typical resume or conventional ideas of successâweâre going beyond that.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Personal Toll of Public Life
âWhile doing three live shows a day, I went through a divorce, an accident, and some of the darkest moments of my life. I wondered if Iâd ever feel happy again.â
Finding Your Sweet Spot: Skills, Opportunities, and Trends
âWhen making a career pivot, ask yourself three key questions: What am I good at? Whereâs the money? And whatâs the trajectory of the industry Iâm entering? Aligning these answers sets the foundation for a successful transition.â
Coffee, Conversations, and Clarity: Gaining Insight From Your Network
âTo discover where I could make an impact, I turned to trusted colleagues and asked: If you had to hire me, what would you hire me for? Their answers revealed skills I hadnât fully recognized and pointed me toward opportunities I hadnât considered.â
Your Skills, Seen Through Fresh Eyes
âWhat others find valuable in you might surprise you. Itâs a reminder to seek outside perspectivesâthey could reveal your next big opportunity.â
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Part Two.
In 2022, an accident left Erica Sosna, Author of The Career Equation, paralysed, facing months of recovery, and re-learning to walk. Yet, she is grateful, even through pain and uncertainty, to have rediscovered her own resilience and purpose. Over two years, she has fought her way back to walking, rebuilt her business, and found a new mission in helping others.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Speaking the Same Career Language: The Foundation of The Career Equation
âThe Career Equation is designed to create a common understanding between employers and employees around career development, much like having a shared accounting system. Without it, career conversations risk inconsistency and lack of clarity, but with it, we can truly align aspirations and strategies.â
Building Career Conversations with Four Simple Components
âThe Career Equation focuses on four key insights: understanding strengths, uncovering passions, measuring success, and aligning with optimal work environments. These components create a common ground, enabling both employer and employee to understand whatâs needed to thrive.â
Insatiable Curiosity: Embracing Unconventional Paths to Healing
"An insatiable thirst for novelty keeps me exploring, whether itâs acupuncture, microcurrent therapy, or spine-specific chiropractic techniques. Iâve discovered that healing requires openness to new possibilities, even when they fall outside the traditional model.â
The Right Environment: The Crucial Factor for Success
âFrom workspace to team dynamics, the environment is essential to performance. Knowing where a person does their best work and making adjustments as needed creates a space where strengths can flourish.â
Visualizing the Outcome: A Plan Begins with the End in Mind
âI start by envisioning the experiences I wantâwhether itâs dancing, running, or picking up my childâthen map out the steps that would lead me there. By framing it with vivid goals, I find clarity and purpose in the smallest daily actions.â
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Part One.
In 2022, an accident left Erica Sosna, Author of The Career Equation, paralysed, facing months of recovery, and re-learning to walk. Yet, she is grateful, even through pain and uncertainty, to have rediscovered her own resilience and purpose. Over two years, she has fought her way back to walking, rebuilt her business, and found a new mission in helping others.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Two Jobs, Two Failures: A Gut Check Moment
âAfter two roles that didnât work out as planned, I hit a crossroads. I took a step back and asked: am I in the right place? I needed to rethink my priorities, work style, and the kind of organization that would truly support me.â
The School of Hard Knocks: Rejections and Redirections
âReturning to the corporate world after running my own social enterprise was unexpectedly tough. My CV was different, unconventional, and people didnât trust me to hold down a job. It took resilience to find an organization that valued my unique experience.â
Shifting Gears: When Your Work Becomes Your Solace
âReturning to my consultancy after a yearâs absence was grounding. My work has always been my passion, but after such a physically uncontrollable experience, the familiar structure felt like a comfort. It also became a chance to rethink: How could I reach more people, make a bigger impact? And so, the podcast was born.â
A Balancing Act: Rediscovering Purpose in a Three-Day Week
"Managing a business on a three-day week, while also recovering from a spinal cord injury and parenting, meant redefining success. Iâve refocused on what truly matters, aligning my time with my gifts and refining how I reach people. Itâs been a balance of impact and sustainability.â
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Part Two.
We dive into an extraordinary journey of resilience with Athena Brownson. At the peak of her real estate careerâfeeling invincible and unstoppableâAthenaâs life took an unexpected turn. Strange health issues appeared, and she was eventually diagnosed with Lyme disease, a condition that would change everything.
For the past eight years, Athena has lived in chronic pain, relying on plasma transfusions four days each month just to keep going. Her life now revolves around battling this disease, something she never imagined facing. As she says, âIf life didnât give us adversity and challengesâŠâ
This story is too powerful for just one episode.
Yesterday, in Part 1, Athena shared her experience with Lyme diseaseâa condition that remains poorly understood but has profoundly impacted her health. She talked about how she had caught it, what she had endured, and the fight to survive.
In Part 2, airing today, Athena will reveal how she not only survived but found ways to thrive, rebuild her support system, and grow her career once again.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Retraining the Brain
âPain puts the brain in fight-or-flight mode, and it can get stuck there. So itâs on us to train our minds to tell our bodies weâre okay, to push through and find relief.â
The Power of a Routine
âFor me, routines are huge. My toolkit includes morning and evening rituals â breathwork, meditation, journaling, writing affirmations. I remind myself every day: I am healthy. I am healing. My body can get through this.â
The Art of Delegation
âDelegation isnât just about getting things off your plate; itâs about giving others a chance to shine. My illness showed me I canât do everything, nor should I. Letting go allows others to thrive, and itâs empowering to see them do what they love.â
Building My Tribe
âFinding the right people was a decade-long journey, but now I have a team around me who would do anything for me. Theyâre not just coworkers; theyâre my support system, my tribe. I know theyâre here for me, health and all, and I wouldnât be where I am without them.â
The Power of Pen and Paper
âWriting by hand does something special. Seeing the words you put down lets them sink in, letting you visualize and internalize them in a unique way.â
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Athena BrownsonChief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously.
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Part One.
We dive into an extraordinary journey of resilience with Athena Brownson. At the peak of her real estate careerâfeeling invincible and unstoppableâAthenaâs life took an unexpected turn. Strange health issues appeared, and she was eventually diagnosed with Lyme disease, a condition that would change everything.
For the past eight years, Athena has lived in chronic pain, relying on plasma transfusions four days each month just to keep going. Her life now revolves around battling this disease, something she never imagined facing. As she says, âIf life didnât give us adversity and challengesâŠâ
This story is too powerful for just one episode.
Today, in Part 1, Athena shares her experience with Lyme diseaseâa condition that remains poorly understood but has profoundly impacted her health. Sheâll talk about how she caught it, what sheâs endured, and the fight to survive.
In Part 2, airing tomorrow, Athena will reveal how she not only survived but found ways to thrive, rebuild her support system, and grow her career once again.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Hidden Threat of Lyme Disease
âI had no idea what Lyme disease was before I was diagnosed with it. Itâs the fastest growing epidemic in the United States, and it can turn life upside down.â
From Athlete to Survivor
âMy life has made a complete 180 from being a professional athlete to just trying to get through each day. Itâs a nightmare I wouldnât wish on anyone.â
When Life Becomes a Series of Challenges
âItâs hard not to get stuck in the mud when youâre dealing with something so challenging and constant⊠chronic pain, chronic fatigue, enough to make anyone want to stay in bed and not do anything.â
Creating a Toolkit for Every Day
âHow do we pivot our mentality? How do we create our toolkit of things to get us through each day, even when we donât want to? Sometimes itâs as simple as blasting favorite music or making a great cup of coffee.â
Becoming Your Own Biggest Advocate
âWith Lyme, Iâve learned that you have to be your own biggest advocate. Itâs about mental resilience, surrounding yourself with the right people, and finding those anchors to push forward.â
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Part Three.
Todayâs episode has a unique twist: Iâm interviewing a storytelling expert to share his own story.
My guest, Chris Hare, is a strategic narrative advisor and coach for companies like Amazon and Microsoft, guiding leaders and executives with his approach, Atomic Storytelling. His method breaks down complex stories into their core, resonant elements.
In this three-part series, weâll journey through Chrisâs experiences in three stages.
On Wednesday, in Part 1, we explored his expertise in helping businesses craft compelling corporate stories and understand the connection between story and narrative.
On Thursday, in Part 2, we looked at storytelling for personal transformation as Chris shared some of the best and worst stories he had heard or felt. He also opened up about his own mental health challenges.
Then, today, in Part 3, heâll introduce tools we can use to develop our own stories and narratives. And hereâs a personal confessionâI told him one of his exercises might just make me cry! Iâll also be sharing my own experience with another exercise, highlighting both its challenges and insights.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Power of a Reflective Movie Theater Exercise
âI have people visualize that movie that plays is actually not the blockbuster. Itâs actually your life playing and your careerâŠWhat might you call that movie?â
Beyond the Corporate 360: Finding Stories That Matter
âThis is not the 360 that many of us from corporate America are used toâŠthe goal here is to go and talk to three to five people who know you, care about you, and want you to succeed.â
Feedback as a Double-Edged Sword
âPeople could give feedback that might reinforce the wrong narrativeâŠwe just have to be careful and think about them as inputs, not absolute truths.â
The Weight of Opinions and Invisible Biases
âWe unknowingly put more weight on some peopleâs opinions than othersâŠwhether itâs because of the friendship, the level of friendship, or the position they have.â
Rewriting Stories with Every Interaction
âIâm never telling the same story twice. Iâm rewriting the story as Iâm telling you based on your face, your facial expressions, your body language, your tone of voice. There are all those factors that play into it that make it incredibly complex.â
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Part Two.
Todayâs episode has a unique twist: Iâm interviewing a storytelling expert to share his own story.
My guest, Chris Hare, is a strategic narrative advisor and coach for companies like Amazon and Microsoft, guiding leaders and executives with his approach, Atomic Storytelling. His method breaks down complex stories into their core, resonant elements.
In this three-part series, weâll journey through Chrisâs experiences in three stages.
Yesterday, in Part 1, we explored his expertise in helping businesses craft compelling corporate stories and understand the connection between story and narrative.
Today, in Part 2, weâll look at storytelling for personal transformation as Chris shares some of the best and worst stories heâs heard and opens up about his own mental health challenges.
Then, in Part 3, heâll introduce tools we can use to develop our own stories and narratives. And hereâs a personal confessionâI told him one of his exercises might just make me cry! Iâll also be sharing my own experience with another exercise, highlighting both its challenges and insights.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Rewriting Your Inner Cassette Tape
âI find it helpful and more visceral to think about our personal narratives as a cassette tapeâa tape thatâs playing in our head that weâre constantly writing, rewriting, and adjusting.â
Building One Authentic Narrative Across Multiple Worlds
âA serial CEO I worked with wanted one narrative that connected his private equity, board roles, and yoga community. The result was an authentic narrative rooted in his true self that could be lensed across different audiences.â
Proximity Blinds Us to Our Own Stories
"Weâre so close to our own narrative and stories that we donât see the broader picture⊠if youâre building with Lego, you might not see that thereâs a gigantic pile of Lego behind you."
Changing the Inputs to Shift the Narrative and Change the Outcome
âIf you continue to put in the same inputs, things likely wonât change⊠One of the positive inputs I changed was I got into fly fishing, and that was part of changing those inputs to shift not only the narrative but the outcomes.â
The Power of Raw Storytelling
"Our stories are not always the really clean, really curated story that makes us look good, but that raw story that has the power to shift the future."
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