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Hiring used to be about handshakes—now it’s about hacking the system. Mary Shea, GM of Hire Quotient and former co-CEO of Mediafly, spills the secrets of modern hiring, from decoding hidden talent pools to avoiding AI’s résumé black hole. Whether you’re job hunting, recruiting, or just trying to figure out why no one calls back anymore, this episode is for you.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:AI as a Recruiter’s Right Hand
“Offloading 75% of the recruiting workload, generative AI and automation work overtime, tackling bias and sourcing talent far beyond the usual platforms.”
Beyond LinkedIn
“Why limit your search to one platform? With integrations across tools like Crunchbase and Apollo, HireQuotient casts a wide net, uncovering passive and active candidates who often fly under the radar.”
Championing Diversity
“When male-dominated results dominated a recruiter’s search, HireQuotient adapted with a few new prompts, demonstrating how AI can open doors for underrepresented talent.”
White Glove Experience, AI-Style
“Automation doesn’t mean impersonal. By automating outreach and early-stage screening, recruiters had more time to build personal connections and keep candidates engaged.”
Omnichannel Humanity
“Use every channel, but never forget the power of face-to-face. It’s not just networking; it’s feeding your humanity.”
The Human Advantage
“AI might read resumes, but humans hire. Keep networking, stay visible, and remember that meaningful relationships can outlast any algorithm.”
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Who needs a solo act when you can have a dynamic duo? In Part Two of this series, Mary Shea, General Manager of Hire Quotient and former co-CEO of Mediafly, takes us inside the world of co-CEOship—a growing leadership trend that’s part genius, part juggling act.
Mary unpacks what makes it work: trust, complementary skills, and a shared vision. But she’s also refreshingly candid about the pitfalls—slower decision-making, the need for a strong board, and why even the best co-leaders need a “business couples counselor.” If you’re rethinking leadership structures, this one’s for you.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:AI’s Impact on Sales Teams
“AI is paving the way for smaller, more agile sales teams, moving away from the traditional 80/20 rule toward a future where 80% of the team delivers 100% of the revenue.”
The Rise of the Consultant Seller
“AI acts as a coach on the salesperson’s shoulder, helping them become more advisory-oriented, and enabling deeper impact in customer interactions.”
Why Two CEOs?
“In today’s complex world, no single leader can address everything, from geopolitical challenges to the rapid pace of AI innovation. The co-CEO model allows for a divide-and-conquer approach.”
Challenges of Co-Leadership
“Decision-making can be slower, and sometimes we wish we could just do things our way. But alignment is key, and when it works, it’s incredibly impactful.”
Who’s the Umpire?
“Our ‘umpire’ is our investor and board. If we truly can’t resolve a disagreement, we rely on their input as the ultimate decision-maker.”
The Professional Marriage
“Co-CEOship is like a professional marriage—it requires resilience, commitment, and sometimes even a ‘marriage counselor’ in the form of an executive coach to navigate tough patches.”
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Mary Shea’s career is proof that you don’t have to stick to one soundtrack.
From a classical musician to a leading voice in sales leadership, she’s taken some bold risks—and in this first episode of a three-part series, she’s sharing the lessons she learned along the way.
As General Manager of Hire Quotient and former co-CEO of Mediafly, Mary is on a mission to amplify underrepresented voices and reshape sales leadership. With insights from her time at Forrester, she also dives into the digital transformation of sales and how creativity plays a bigger role in business than you might think.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:From Music to Business
“I started as a classical musician, playing with the Mexico City Philharmonic and Guadalajara Symphony. But when the career palette felt too small, I took a leap into business, changing my life forever.”
Sales: The Great Equalizer
“Sales is one of the few fields where hard work and skill can lead to financial independence, regardless of where you start. That independence allows you to make meaningful changes in your life and others’.”
Playing Catch-Up with Purpose
“Coming into the business world with a PhD put me 10 years behind my peers, but it also ignited a fire. I moved quickly, knowing every opportunity was critical to closing that gap.”
Creating the Playbook
“I’m not just about managing to a playbook—I love creating it. The intellectual stimulation of building strategies with teams and seeing them succeed is what drives me.”
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Irina Filippova has a knack for reinvention—first as a diplomat, then as an energy leader, and always as someone who dives headfirst into big challenges.
Born in Moscow to a nuclear scientist, she took a detour from atoms to alliances before landing at BP, where she’s now electrifying fleets and turning gas stations into sustainability hubs.
Change is her comfort zone, and with her signature mix of diplomacy, curiosity, and humor, she’s proving that career pivots can be both bold and brilliant.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Moscow Roots and Global Aspirations“I grew up surrounded by science—my father was a nuclear scientist—but my passion was languages and cultures. Choosing diplomacy as a career was a bold step, especially for a woman in Moscow, but it opened doors to a world of possibilities.”
A Curiosity-Led Career Path
“My journey has been anything but linear. At 35, I realized I wasn’t drawn to the idea of a traditional career path. Instead, I wanted to explore different facets of energy, leading me from corporate giants to startups—and each step fueled my curiosity further.”
Turning the Lens Inward
“I initially focused on the need for external leaders to change, but studying psychology at the Carl Jung Institute revealed a profound truth: the change had to start within me. Only by addressing my own internal growth could I effectively guide others.”
Solving the Fleet Transition Equation
“Fleet owners face a daunting challenge: embracing electrification without losing focus on their core business. Our mission is to handle everything from sourcing energy to ensuring reliability, allowing them to electrify without added burdens.”
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What do you do when your career isn’t working? If you’re Gagan Sandhu, you rewrite the script.
From mechanical engineering in India to tech leadership at Square and Atlassian, he’s mastered career pivots, financial independence, and thriving in an ever-changing world. Now, as CEO and Co-Founder of Xillion, he’s helping others do the same. He unpacks the myths of financial freedom, tackles ageism in the workplace, and explains why modern careers require constant reinvention.This is part two of a two-part series, offering a roadmap for navigating change, mastering skills, and living intentionally, no matter your stage in life.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Trap of Asset Rich, Cash Poor
“Financial independence isn’t about piling up assets like real estate without liquidity. It’s about understanding cash flow, compounding returns, and making smart investments tailored to your goals.”
Two Sides of the Same Coin
“Financial independence isn’t just about planning for tomorrow—it’s about defining today. The idea is to align your present choices with the freedom to pursue passions and live meaningfully.”
The Role of Finfluencers
“They offer quick tips and digestible content, often catering to a younger audience. But their motives can sometimes be tied to promotions—whether it’s a bank account or an investment product. Their advice might not always be impartial.”
A Balanced Perspective
“At Xillion, we take a different path. While we do share nuggets of wisdom on platforms like LinkedIn and TikTok, we focus on being our own voice of authority rather than relying on external influencers. This way, authenticity remains at the core of our brand.”
The 10-Year Career Mindset
“Careers aren’t linear 30-year paths anymore. Every decade or so, you need to rediscover yourself. I’ve done it multiple times—starting as a mechanical engineer, pivoting to programming, then management, and finally launching my own company. Reinvention is the new normal.”
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What do you do when your career isn’t working? If you’re Gagan Sandhu, you rewrite the script.
From mechanical engineering in India to tech leadership at Square and Atlassian, he’s mastered career pivots, financial independence, and thriving in an ever-changing world. Now, as CEO and Co-Founder of Xillion, he’s helping others do the same. In Part One, we dive into reinvention, risk-taking, and why staying still is the real danger.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Machines to Tech: Chasing the Future
“The pace of innovation in mechanical engineering had slowed, but I was hungry for more. Transitioning into tech wasn’t straightforward—it took continents, years, and relentless effort, but it was fueled by a clear driver: knowledge.”
The Xillion Leap
“When my learning plateaued in corporate roles, starting Zillion became my next knowledge adventure. Building something from scratch offered an accelerated learning curve and the chance to apply everything I’d gathered.”
Business School: Filling the Gaps
“For me, business school wasn’t about a career leap; it was about plugging knowledge gaps. Understanding accounting, marketing, and finance became crucial to having meaningful conversations at work, even as a tech leader.”
Redefining Financial Independence
“It’s not about flashy buzzwords or retiring early—it’s about having the freedom to choose your path. For me, it meant leaving the corporate grind to build something meaningful, armed with a clear, numbers-driven plan.”
Crunching the Numbers
“My financial independence formula wasn’t guesswork. I calculated five years of living expenses, education costs, and retirement needs. It’s basic math, but staying on top of expenses and cash flow gave me the clarity to leap.”
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Welcome back for Part Two with Erika Ayers Badan, CEO of Food52 and former CEO of Barstool Sports. In our last episode, we cracked open her debut book, No One Cares About Your Career, and explored why that’s actually good news.
Now, we shift gears. Erika gets personal—sharing the experiences that shaped her leadership style, her no-nonsense approach to handling toxic workplaces, and the real-world career advice she gives her own kids (because let’s be honest, the world they’re stepping into looks nothing like ours did).
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Blame It on the Parents? How Childhood Shaped a Love for Teaching and a Struggle with Authority“I really love to teach. I think my parents, who were in education, gave me that. I also have a fairly strange relationship with authority. I think that also comes from my childhood.”
Do Titles Really Matter? Confessions of a CEO Who Once Cared A Lot
“I don’t really care about titles. It’s a little bit hypocritical because the CEO is a great title. I did care a lot about titles in the hustle years where I was really trying to advance. You should always endeavour to take on more than you had six months ago. Are you doing the same exact thing you did six months ago, without learning, or growing, or tripping on yourself, or taking on something you didn’t know exactly how to do?”
Why Failure Is a Good Thing: Tripping Over Yourself Is Part of the Plan
What’s Your Leadership Style? Finding the Balance Between Boss and Buddy
Toxic Workplace or Just a Bad Day? Getting Real About Fixing Office Culture
“I think that people throw the term toxic workplace around a lot. I’m not sure what it means anymore. I would try to spend as much time as I can to get specifics – what’s going on?”
Career Advice for My Teenage Kids: Balancing Business and Life Lessons
What’s Next After ‘No One Cares’? Teasing the Next Passion Project
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If Erika Ayers Badan’s book title, No One Cares About Your Career, made you do a double take—same here.
CEO of Food52 and former Barstool Sports exec, Erika has built an impressive career, but she’s not here to talk about her LinkedIn page. In Part One, we dig into her book, the lessons behind it, and five game-changing tips for workplace success. Then in Part Two, we step behind the curtain to explore leadership, workplace culture, and what career wisdom she’s passing on to the next generation.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Revisiting the Roots: A Walk Down Memory Lane to Discover the Past’s Impact on the Present
The Brutal Truth Behind ‘No One Cares About Your Career’—How Did Erika Land on That Mic-Drop of a Title?
"Nobody's coming to help you. It's up to you to save yourself, grow yourself, push yourself, teach yourself."
What Sparked the Inspiration Behind Writing the Book?
What Makes This Book a Game Changer in a Sea of Career Guides?
Who Is This Book Really For? Unpacking the Audience Behind the Pages
"Just because you went to Princeton doesn't mean you have to go work in finance. A lot of times people get caught up in what everyone else thinks they should do. That's the lore. What everyone else thinks they should be and the reality is that nobody's really thinking about you that much. You should do what makes you happy and tell everyone else to jump off a cliff."
30 Years, 5 Simple Lessons: How to Succeed at Work Without the Overwhelm
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Holly Bond, President of Facet Recruitment, is living proof that hiring is still a human game—no matter how fancy the tech gets.
From her days as a franchise owner to leading in the AI hiring era, she shares the real secrets to landing (or making) the perfect hire: build real relationships, take bold risks, and never let an algorithm do all the thinking. Tune in to hear how Holly blends experience, intuition, and a dash of humor to keep recruiting refreshingly human.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
From Focus Groups to Foundations
“When we launched Facets, we started with brutal honesty: focus groups full of blunt feedback about recruiters. We listened, and we built a company rooted in empathy and care.”
Breaking the Commission Chain
“Recruiting isn’t about commissions; it’s about people. I refused to return to a model where clients matter more than candidates. Instead, I built a team paid for their passion, not percentages.”
Catching What AI Misses
“If AI had done my recruitment, I would’ve slipped through the cracks. Boolean searches don’t see potential outside the box. Humans do. That’s why we look beyond traditional roles, exploring adjacent sectors for talent.”
Spotting the Unsung Stars
“A recruiter’s superpower? Seeing someone’s potential before they do. When I reached out to a candidate in her 60s, she couldn’t believe I meant her. But age? It’s just a number—wisdom wins every time.”
Putting Yourself Out There
“Take risks, be bold, and let people know what you’re looking for. Whether it’s an informational interview or a thoughtful message, putting yourself out there often leads to unexpected opportunities—sometimes even before the job officially exists.”
The True Value of a Strong Network
“A broad network isn’t just about advancing your career; it’s about helping others too. Being able to connect someone to the right opportunity or advice is the most rewarding part of building genuine, lasting relationships.”
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Holly Bond has lived every entrepreneur’s dream—and nightmare.
One minute, she’s celebrating a national TV feature for her children’s fitness franchise, and the next, she’s grappling with the harsh realities of running a business. Now, as President of Facet Recruitment, she’s using her hard-earned lessons to help others make bold career moves. Tune in as Holly gets real about taking risks, bouncing back, and why fear should never be the boss of you.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Highs and the Crash
“We sold 11 franchises, won awards, and partnered with an animation company to integrate exercise into kids’ shows. Then the 2009 recession hit, and it all came crashing down. But every tough moment was a lesson in resilience.”
From Local to Global Buzz
“After a single news segment, I came home to over 100 emails from people wanting franchises—from Canada to Dubai. It was surreal, exciting, and chaotic. I had to build the plane while flying it.”
Racing Against Time
“I’ve always felt like I’m running to catch up, maybe because I took 17 years to finish my degree or because my mom passed away at the age I am now. That sense of urgency—it’s hardwired into me.”
The Fear of Regret
“I don’t want to be 85 and look back saying, ‘I wish I’d done that.’ There’s so much to explore, so many industries to dive into. I just can’t imagine stopping.”
Reflection in Progress
“My son recently asked me, ‘Why can’t you just enjoy life?’ It’s a question I’m sitting with. Maybe it’s time to slow down, but for now, the drive to conquer still burns bright.”
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When two Vinces collide, expect more than just name confusion.
Vince Chan welcomes Vince Jeong, CEO of Sparkwise, to share his journey—from moving to a new country at 12 to revolutionizing corporate learning.Vince J is on a mission to fix stale training programs and inject real human connection into the edtech space. What does that look like? Tune in for sharp insights, fresh ideas, and a game plan for the future of adult learning.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Immigrant Experience 101: Learning English and Rediscovering Myself at Age 12
Learning by Doing: The Best Way to Discover What You Really Want. Why Theorizing Only Gets You So Far.
“I’ve often found that you can only really discover and learn your true preferences by gaining first-hand experience. Theorizing only gets you so far.”
Bringing McKinsey’s Gold Standard to Everyone: The Spark Behind Creating an EdTech for Live Group Learning
“At McKinsey, people fought to get onto training programs. It was interactive, engaging, and team-based. I thought that’s what corporate training looked like everywhere—until I saw the difference in other organizations.”
From TV Host to Startup Boss: The Founder-Market Fit of Live Group Learning
“Throughout my life, I’ve just been involved in a lot of things that involve live groups. I used to be on TV in Korea, hosting live shows and facilitating conversations.”
Differentiation Value to Create: Scaling the Unscalable
"What we're doing is we're taking that experience that today can only be accessed by really privileged settings and making it much more accessible to many more people through technology."
Rebuilding Stronger Community: Foster Real Connections Beyond Social Media’s Shallow Bonds
“We create an environment where people solve problems together that are realistic but fictitious, which helps them engage deeply without having to be vulnerable from the get-go.”
Partners in Crime: Those Who Crave Rich Interactions or Scale Quality Learning at a Bargain
Turning Idle Content into Action: Beating AI with Human-to-Human Engagement for Deeper Learning
“There’s a lot of idle content out there today, and simply reading is rarely the best way for people to actually understand those concepts.”
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Wayland Lum didn’t climb the corporate ladder—he painted his own.
From art supplies to executive boardrooms, the CEO of Copperbox Leadership Advisory has mastered the art (literally) of leadership. With a career spanning Nvidia, Korn Ferry, and Chicago Booth, he’s here to prove that great leadership is less about knowing everything and more about trusting yourself. In this episode, he unpacks the power of authenticity, why courage beats perfection, and how betting on yourself can change your career—and your life.Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Breaking Free from Prestige
“Leaving prestigious organizations for my own leadership practice wasn’t easy. Many stick to the comfort of a stable paycheck and a corporate name—but I felt called to something more.”
Why Modern Leadership Matters
“In a world of constant flux, leadership grounded in systemic and timeless principles offers the resilience and clarity needed to navigate both societal and business challenges.”
The Private Equity Sprint
“Private equity moves fast. Our work helps leaders in portfolio companies close leadership gaps quickly, aligning their capabilities with quarter-by-quarter business demands.”
Inspiration Starts Within
“To inspire others, you must first be inspired. Your energy, your spark, comes from operating with purpose—and trust me, people can tell if it’s there or not.”
The Wisdom of Acceptance
“Modern leadership is about accepting the full spectrum of emotions—joy, fear, grief, and love—and leading with a wisdom that reflects this understanding of human nature.”
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Confidence: is it real, or just another corporate buzzword like “synergy” and “pivot”? It’s about knowing your worth and standing by it.
Lucy Gernon from Ireland is here to clear the fog. In this episode, she ditches the clichés and breaks down confidence as something deeper than borrowed quotes or fake-it-til-you-make-it bravado. Instead, she unpacks how true confidence is about trusting your own voice, owning your ideas, and realizing that you don’t need a guru—just a little belief in yourself.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Fire Within
“I knew I was capable of more, but my inner critic kept me playing small. It wasn’t until a personal tragedy shook me to my core that I decided to stop living for others and start chasing my dreams.”
Building While Working
“I started small, coaching evenings and weekends to test the waters. It wasn’t glamorous, but it proved there was a demand. For over a year, I balanced corporate life with side hustle life, saving money, gaining testimonials, and upskilling wherever I could.”
Lessons from the Mirror
“Before starting my business, I leaned on big names and borrowed quotes. But a coach’s nudge reminded me: I had my own frameworks, built on life experience. That realization turned the mirror back on me—and boosted my belief in what I bring to the table.”
Confidence as a Gift
“Confidence isn’t about perfection or credentials. It’s about understanding what you’ve built, what you’ve learned, and using that to enrich others’ journeys. That’s the real win.”
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What happens when a political insider, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, and a bestselling author walk into a podcast? You get Deborah Perry Piscione. She’s gone from shaping policy in Washington, D.C., to writing Employment is Dead, and she’s here to unpack why work as we know it is crumbling.
Traditional employment is on life support, and Deborah Perry Piscione is here to explain why. In Part 2 of this two-part series, she breaks down the radical shift in how we work, hire, and learn—plus what it means for companies that refuse to adapt.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Future of Learning – “My son skipped college, built a six-figure business at 15, and spent a year in Antarctica learning survival skills. That kind of real-world experience? You can’t teach that in a classroom.” Why degrees are losing their grip, and how alternative education paths are creating a new kind of talent pipeline.
Employment is Dead? – “No, I’m not saying people should sit in their parents’ basement playing video games. I’m saying we don’t have to tolerate outdated, soul-crushing jobs anymore.” Deborah sets the record straight on the book’s provocative title.
What Companies Must Do Now – “One person can now do the job of three or four. So what happens to the others? If companies don’t plan for that, they’ll lose their best people before they even see it coming.” Why leaders need to rethink how they train, retain, and engage talent before AI and Web3 force their hand.
Work3 and the New Rules of Employment – “We built the Work3 Institute to help companies move forward before they get left behind. The question isn’t ‘Will work change?’ It’s ‘Are you ready for it?’” How Deborah and Josh Drean are guiding businesses through the transformation.
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What happens when a political insider, a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, and a bestselling author walk into a podcast? You get Deborah Perry Piscione. She’s gone from shaping policy in Washington, D.C., to writing Employment is Dead, and she’s here to unpack why work as we know it is crumbling.
In Part 1 of this two-part series, Deborah takes us on a wild career ride—working in the White House, pivoting to Silicon Valley, and learning that fear and division drive politics, but collaboration fuels innovation. She shares how a single conversation at a Starbucks led to her first venture funding (yes, really), why failing fast is a non-negotiable skill, and how risk-taking has shaped her entrepreneurial journey.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:From Capitol Hill to Silicon Valley – “In D.C., I learned how to divide people. In Silicon Valley, I learned how to bring them together.” Deborah reflects on her 18 years in Washington and how moving west flipped her worldview on work, collaboration, and success.
The Starbucks Moment – “I was in line at Starbucks when a stranger asked, ‘How can I help you?’ Three weeks later, I was sitting with a top venture capitalist who said, ‘I like you. Figure out something to do. I’ll fund you.’” Deborah’s introduction to Silicon Valley’s pay-it-forward culture changed everything.
Entrepreneurial Instincts – “Most of my companies weren’t grand plans—I just saw a problem and built a solution.”From launching a networking platform for women in venture capital to creating a sweat-proof undershirt on a speaking tour, Deborah proves that the best businesses start with simple observations.
Work is Changing—Are You? – “We’re moving into a bifurcated workforce—traditional employment will still exist, but the smartest workers are creating their own playbook.” Why the old career paths are fading, and how the next generation is redefining success.
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Greg Morley has spent years navigating the high-stakes world of corporate culture at Moët Hennessy, Disney, and Hasbro. Now, he’s here to call out the biggest myth in business: that belonging is just a “soft” concept.
DEI isn’t one-size-fits-all, and Greg Morley is here to prove it. In Part 2, he breaks down how companies get inclusion wrong by ignoring cultural differences—why the West’s love for metrics doesn’t always vibe with the East’s emphasis on harmony, and what businesses can do to bridge the gap. Expect real talk, sharp insights, and of course, a few gems from Bond.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Crisis of Workplace Loneliness
“Workplace loneliness isn’t just a personal issue—it’s a challenge organizations must tackle to foster belonging and inclusion.”
The Employee-Employer Power Flip
“The workplace dynamic has shifted—it’s now a buyer’s market for employees who demand recognition, safety, and belonging.”
Redefining Diversity
“Diversity isn’t just what you see—it’s also life experiences, generational perspectives, languages, and abilities, visible or hidden. Most of our diversity at work is invisible. Who someone marries, whether they have kids, or cognitive differences often go unnoticed—but they matter.”
Start With Yourself
“Change begins within. Reflecting on personal experiences of inclusion or exclusion can help leaders empathize and create a more welcoming environment for others.”
East Meets West
“In the East, inclusion feels more organic, driven by community and connection. In the West, it’s often about achieving measurable outcomes and hitting diversity targets.”
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Greg Morley--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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Greg Morley has helped shape workplace culture at some of the world’s biggest brands, and now he’s here to tell us what’s broken—and how to fix it. In Part 1, he unpacks why belonging isn’t just about good vibes, why Bond is the workplace revolution your company needs, and how ditching outdated DEI efforts can actually drive results. If you think engagement is just another HR buzzword, Greg’s about to change your mind.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:The Inspiration Behind the Book
“The idea for my first book, Bond, came from a friend’s suggestion that I had an obligation to share my experiences. That idea sparked a journey to explore what it takes for any organization to create a true sense of belonging.”
Cutting Through the Noise
“In a world polarized by amplified voices on the extremes—whether labeled woke or anti-woke—my focus is on the middle ground. Most people want to feel safe, heard, and valued at work, free from political distractions.”
A Sandwich Approach to DEI
“Balancing a top-down strategy with grassroots alignment ensures each Maison retains its uniqueness while embracing broader organizational values to drive meaningful DEI outcomes.”
Facing the First Challenge: Self-Awareness
“The journey began with unconscious bias training for all employees, helping them recognize unintentional biases shaped by upbringing or experience. This laid the groundwork for open, honest conversations about diversity and inclusion.”
Leadership Advocacy is Key
“There’s nothing more powerful than a CEO advocating for DEI consistently. A strong top-down message, combined with grassroots energy, creates the momentum needed for real change.”
_________________________Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Greg Morley--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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Part Three.
Change isn’t just a phase for Colin Savage—it’s his entire identity. In this three-part series, we explore how he went from chasing change to mastering it. With experience spanning seven countries, seven secondments, and projects in over 70 nations, Colin knows what it takes to adapt, reinvent, and thrive.
Forget cramming knowledge forever—Colin says lifelong learning is outdated. Instead, he’s all about skill stacking, a smarter way to stay ahead. And if that wasn’t enough, we’re taking on AI, human intelligence, and why you absolutely need a personal AI strategy. Because let’s face it—if AI is evolving, you should be too.
Get ready—this episode moves fast, just like Colin’s career!
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Skill Stacking: Building the Professional Toolkit
“Skill stacking, by contrast, is about curating abilities that complement one another professionally. It’s not about learning everything, but about combining practical skills—like emotional intelligence and technical expertise—to tackle complex challenges with a well-rounded approach.”
AI as a Symphony, Not a Solo
“The real power of AI lies in its harmony with other tools and disciplines. No single tool can address every need, but by leveraging the strengths of multiple technologies in concert, professionals can tackle challenges faster, smarter, and more effectively.”
Cheating AI? The Consequences Are Real
“From students to professionals, relying on AI without human effort leads to steep penalties. A student might fail, a professional might face fraud charges. The higher the stakes, the more critical it is to leverage—not outsource—human intelligence.”
From Problem-Solving to Value Creation
“AI isn’t just a tool for fixing problems—it’s a way to grow and extend what’s already working. By pairing the strengths of people and machines, businesses can unlock untapped potential and deliver results that weren’t possible before.__________________________
Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Colin Savage--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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Part Two.
Change isn’t just a phase for Colin Savage—it’s his entire identity. In this three-part series, we explore how he went from chasing change to mastering it. With experience spanning seven countries, seven secondments, and projects in over 70 nations, Colin knows what it takes to adapt, reinvent, and thrive.
Forget cramming knowledge forever—Colin says lifelong learning is outdated. Instead, he’s all about skill stacking, a smarter way to stay ahead. And if that wasn’t enough, we’re taking on AI, human intelligence, and why you absolutely need a personal AI strategy. Because let’s face it—if AI is evolving, you should be too.
Get ready—this episode moves fast, just like Colin’s career!
Key Highlight of Our Interview:The Kung Fu Panda Approach to Change
“Wise, measured, and reflective—the best change leaders channel their inner ‘Kung Fu Panda turtle.’ Fewer words, deeper thought, and a collective approach to charting the path forward. Because real insight comes when you listen more than you speak.”
Why Collective Decisions Matter
“Making life-altering changes isn’t a solo act. Consulting with those affected—be it family, colleagues, or friends—adds invaluable perspectives. Ignoring this step risks blind spots and unanticipated challenges that could have been addressed earlier.”
Lifelong Learning: The Good, the Bad, and the Outdated
“While lifelong learning emphasizes constant self-improvement, it often lacks focus. Simply chasing degrees, certifications, or skills without purpose can lead to a disjointed portfolio of knowledge. The real magic happens when learning is intentional and builds toward expertise.”
Skill Stacking as a Career Superpower
“Focused learning that combines seemingly unrelated skills can redefine your career trajectory. It’s not just about learning for the sake of it—it’s about intentionally connecting knowledge areas to create a broader, more adaptable toolkit for the future.”
_________________________Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Colin Savage--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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Part One.
Change isn’t just a phase for Colin Savage—it’s his entire identity. In this three-part series, we explore how he went from chasing change to mastering it. With experience spanning seven countries, seven secondments, and projects in over 70 nations, Colin knows what it takes to adapt, reinvent, and thrive.
In this episode, Colin challenges the idea of lifelong learning (spoiler: he thinks it’s outdated) and makes the case for skill stacking instead. And before we wrap, we’ll dive into AI, human intelligence, and why everyone needs a personal AI strategy.
Get ready—this episode moves fast, just like Colin’s career!
Key Highlights of Our Interview:Chasing Novelty vs. Finding Purpose
“It’s easy to leap into new opportunities just because they look exciting. But what’s the endgame? Without a deeper reason or plan, chasing novelty can leave you with unfinished experiences and a string of ‘almost-there’ moments. Purpose turns adventures into meaningful chapters.”
Addicted to Change: Thrill or Trap?
“Addiction to novelty isn’t inherently bad—it pushes boundaries and opens up opportunities. But unbridled chasing without reflection or completion risks shallow experiences. The key? Balancing the thrill of change with the discipline to extract value from every leap.”
Change as a Tool, Not a Fix
“Change for the sake of novelty often leads to dissatisfaction. Instead, approach change as a tool for growth, not a quick fix. Thoughtfully evaluate your motives, assess your readiness, and embrace change as a means to align with your purpose—not as an escape from discomfort.”
Japan: A Surprising Example of Measured Change
“Even in traditionally conservative cultures, like Japan’s life insurance industry, meaningful change can thrive. Success here came not from disruption but from careful planning, patience, and conversations that built consensus. Change, when handled thoughtfully, can flourish even in the most traditional environments.”
_________________________Connect with us:
Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Colin Savage--Chief Change Officer--
Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Deep Human Intelligence for
Growth Progressives, Visionary Underdogs,
Transformation Gurus & Bold Hearts.6 Million+ All-Time Downloads.
Reaching 80+ Countries Daily.
Global Top 3% Podcast.
Top 10 US Business.
Top 1 US Careers.>>>100,000+ subscribers are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<
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