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In this conversation with designer, mindfulness teacher, and friend Jay Vidyarthi โ we explore how to reclaim agency in the age of the attention economy without rejecting the magic of technology.
We discuss why mainstream narratives about digital distraction often leave out empowerment, how to build healthier relationships with technology, the nuanced role of AI, the sacred responsibility of attention and why awareness is the first โspellโ in your own defense against the dark arts of distraction. Listen to this conversation and learn how to enjoy the best of tech while setting boundaries around the worst of it!
Connect with Jay
๐ Check out Jay's brilliant book 'Reclaim Your Mind'
๐ Subscribe to Jay's free newsletter 'Attention Activist'Explore More from Jonny
๐ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ด Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter
๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System MasteryThis is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode's show-notes + timestamps
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
Nir Eyal is a New York Times bestselling author and behavioral design expert. We had a wide-ranging conversation on curiosity, identity, and the unexpected ways that beliefs that shape our lives. Nir shared why curiosity is a superpower for self-improvement, the role of community in mental well-being, why โpills donโt teach skillsโ when it comes to mental health, why testing and rewiring our beliefs is essential for personal growth, and how living with integrity aligns us with our deepest values.
Show Notes:
โข Why curiosity is a superpower for self-improvement
โข How beliefs shape reality โ and how to rewire them
โข Spotting and dismantling limiting beliefs that hold you back
โข The link between integrity, values, and intentional living
โข Why โpills donโt teach skillsโ in mental health
โข The role of identity and labels in shaping behaviorConnect with Nir
๐ Sign up for his (fantastic) newsletter over at nirandfar.com
Explore More from Jonny
๐ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ด Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter
๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System MasteryThis is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode's show-notes + timestamps
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
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This is a special one-off episode in which the tables are turned โ Ocean Kiani interviews Jonny and leadership coach Ben Ward.
We discuss how the training has evolved over time, including some of the teaching philosophies and experimental mindset that underpin everything we do, as well as explore the profound impact that nervous system work has had on our lives.
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Explore More from Jonny
๐ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ด Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier NewsletterLearn More About Ocean + Ben
Ocean Kiani, alongside helping Jonny grow + run Nervous System Mastery, is a somatic movement practitioner, writer, and movement coach. Connect with Ocean on: oceankiani.substack.com
Ben Ward is an experienced leadership & organisational coach who partners with leaders and teams to navigate complexity, grow people, and unlock breakthrough progress. Connect with Ben on: explore-change.com
๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System MasteryThis is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode's show-notes + timestamps
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
This conversation is with menโs fertility expert Josh Paigen โ whose path took him from a childhood fascination with the natural world to helping men and couples prepare for healthy conception. We explore the alarming global decline in sperm count, why preconception health is about far more than simply being able to conceive, and Joshโs five pillars of male fertility: sustenance, purity, exercise, rest, and mindset.
Along the way, we dive into the roles of nutrition, environmental toxins, circadian rhythms, and even inherited trauma in shaping reproductive health โ and how small, intentional lifestyle shifts can have a profound impact on future generations.
You can expect to learn
โข Why sperm count is plummeting (and why this matters)
โข Five pillars of male fertility you can start today
โข How diet, toxins, and lifestyle shape reproductive health
โข Sleep, stress, and mindsetsโ hidden role in fertility
โข Epigenetics: how trauma and health choices get passed on
โข Simple changes that can boost fertility and overall vitality[Timestamps]
05:43 Understanding Preconception Health
11:54 Sperm as a Biomarker for Health
17:27 Nutrition and Sperm Health
23:50 Understanding Everyday Toxins
29:22 Minimizing EMF Exposure
38:19 Circadian Rhythms and Hormonal Balance
47:56 Mindset and Holistic Health
55:35 The Interconnection of Health and Fertility
01:00:58 Understanding Epigenetics and Trauma
01:08:36 Challenging Myths in FertilityConnect with Josh
๐ฑ If you'd like to work with Josh and improve your fertility head over to Mandrake.health
Explore More from Jonny
๐ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ด Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter
๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System MasteryThis is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode's show-notes + timestamps
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
Dylan is the founder of the ketamine-assisted therapy startup โMindbloomโ โ He also shares what theyโve learned so far from running nearly 700 thousand guided ketamine sessions, his idea that "Thereโs no magic pill, but there is a magic program". and how heโs been dealing with a recent Wall Street Journal hit piece attempting to discredit his company. I also shared some of my own recent experiences with ketamine assisted somatic journeys and the impact that itโs had on my own life.
Learn More About Dylan + Mindbloomโก See if you would qualify for Mindbloom's Psychedelic Assisted Therapy
๐ฌ Follow Dylan on twitter/X
Time-stamps00:03:34 Growing up in poverty with a schizophrenic mother and severely mentally ill sister
00:06:09 Finding escapism through fantasy books as a bullied child
00:10:08 Breaking point: Fighting back against bullies and developing defensive mechanisms
00:11:44 Discovering positive psychology and questioning his happiness for the first time
00:15:56 First MDMA experience abroad - "one of the three most important moments of my life"
00:17:18 Transformation from deep pessimist to rational optimist
00:20:40 Family tragedies: Mother and sister's overdose deaths
00:29:47 The critical importance of preparation, experience, and integration
00:31:16 Why at-home therapy beats clinical settings
00:35:00 Setting intentions as a forcing function for internal safety
00:38:33 Evolution of Mindbloom's music program links to world-class compositions
00:44:30 AI-powered journaling and integration tool
00:56:57 Jhana meditation and combining somatic work with ketamine
01:02:41 The concept of "super well-being" beyond just treating illness
01:04:58 How mental health professionals underestimate what's possible for patients
01:09:31 How J&J patented S-ketamine (Spravato) at 88x the cost of generic
01:10:49 Media capture: Big Pharma provides 13-25% of news advertising revenue
01:11:04 Mindbloom suing Wall Street Journal for false Matthew Perry death claims
01:09:12 The biggest insight from ketamine: remembering the "why"
01:21:44 50 million Americans on SSRIs vs. 200,000 on ketamine therapy
01:24:55 Veteran suicides: 6,205 per year
01:26:54 Dylan's father's suicidal depression and recovery through Mindbloom
01:21:00 Transition to proactive healthcare and personalized medicine
01:31:17 Mindbloom's new whole health offering beyond just ketamine
01:51:10 Ultimate goal: Eliminating the mental health crisis entirely
01:52:14 "Human capital is what drives everything on this planet"
Explore More from Jonny
๐ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ด Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter
๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System MasteryThis is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode's show-notes + timestamps
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
Joe Hudson is an executive coach for tech CEOs like Sam Altman, and is a cofounder of the Art of Accomplishment. In this in-person interview, we sat down to talk about what I like to think of as the first principles of inner work as well as some of the common pitfalls that often get us stuck along the way.
Time-stamps
00:04 Why does my wife trust Joe more after seeing how little tension he has in his belly?
00:06 How 7 years of breathwork rewired his capacity for authenticity + emotional expression
00:25 The reason self-trust + trust in life are actually the same skill
00:28 Why enjoyment is the most efficient way to work
00:38 How true safety (ironically) requires acknowledging that we're never truly safe
00:43 Why Joe rarely buys into people's stories
00:49 The common trap that stagnates the personal growth of so many teachers (and how to avoid it)
00:55 The hilarious story behind Joe's secret nickname 'Burt McCracken'
01:03 One definition of narcissism is the inability to feel emotions
01:05 The reason that relational work accelerates personal transformation (compared to solo efforts)Learn More About Joe Hudson + AoA
๐จโ๐ซ Get discounted access to their courses here
๐ง Listen to the fantastic AoA Podcast (my top 10 episodes)
๐ฌ Watch Joe's Youtube Videos @artofaccomplishmentExplore More from Jonny
๐ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ด Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter
๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System MasteryThis is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode's show-notes + timestamps
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
Franzi is someone whose work sits at the powerful intersection of nervous system health, emotional resilience, and embodied leadership.
What I admire most about her is the way she weaves personal integrity, deep inquiry, and relational intelligence into every facet of her life โ from parenting her three sons to working with founders navigating burnout and stuck emotions. We explore what it truly means to lead from a place of wholeness โ and why she believes leadership should be a force for healing, not just productivity. Franzi shares how curiosity became her greatest ally through grief and trauma, and how movement became a portal into somatic healing.
We also discuss the difference between performative boundaries and boundaries that foster deeper connection, how interoception builds relational capacity, and why numbness is often the most potent entry point into this work.
Other topics we touch on include:
๐ฟ The cost of chronic performance zones & reclaiming peripheral vision
๐ง How somatics and neuroscience go hand-in-hand โ and why embodiment is often mislabeled as โwooโ
๐ง Her radical, nervous-system-based approach to parenting and education
๐ก The power of practicing self-inquiry through the simple questions: Who am I? Why am I here? Where am I going?
๐ซ And what it means to live a life rooted in belonging, dignity, and safetyThis one is rich, spacious, and full of grounded wisdom โ I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
Connect with Franzi๐ฅ๏ธ Learn about Franzi's Work
๐ Read Franzi's Writing
Connect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter
๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System MasteryThis is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode's show-notes + timestamps
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
In this episode, Iโm speaking with a friend, author, entrepreneur & prolific writer Nat Eliason.
The timing of this conversation was interesting as we recorded it shortly before the US elections, after which the crypto markets shot back into the mainstream. Youโll hear about the intense emotional rollercoaster he went through, losing millions of dollars in a very short period of time โ how it felt to write about this โ what heโs learned about cultivating creative endurance with his writing, as well as his perspective on relaxation versus numbing and how our relationship with work pushes us towards coping mechanisms rather than genuine rest.
Official Links
๐ Follow Nat on Twitter/X @nateliason
๐ Read Crypto Confidential
๐ฅ๏ธ Nat's homepageConnect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System Mastery
This is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode's show-notes + timestamps
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
In this episode, I'm speaking with Dan Shipper โ Dan is a friend, the founder of Every, and someone who I consider to be a philosopher founder.
This conversation didnโt go the direction that I thought it would, I had prepared questions exploring the future of AI and technology, but Iโm glad we listened to the thread that was most alive โ which ended up being exploring Danโs personal journey with OCD โand recent deep dive into Jungian archetypal perspectives โ and living on the borders of things โ the Twilight Zone that he poetically described. Dan did manage to save me towards the end and loop the conversation back towards AI with a super interesting thesis around how it might allow us to make our intuitions more visible and reproducible in the world.
Official Links๐ Follow Dan on Twitter
๐ Learn more about Every๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System Mastery
This is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Connect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier NewsletterFurther Ways to Support the Podcast:
๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode's show-notes + timestamps
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
In this episode, I'm speaking with Marc Champagne โ who after building a journaling app that reached nearly 90 million users and then having to shut it down, emerged with profound insights about the power of transformative questions and the Socratic Method.
In this conversation, we explored:
โ What it means to ask better quality questions, some of the specific questions that have altered the trajectory of Marcโs life โ like โHow can I be the most curious person in the room?โ or โWhom haven't I thanked lately?โ๐ง And how his research led him to explore practices of Mental Fitness, with many practical experiments that you can run in your own life
I hope you find this conversation as fascinating as I did, and if these ideas resonate, please share them with others who might benefit from learning how to ask better questions of themselves and life.
Official Links
๐ Follow Marc on Instagram
๐ Learn more about Marc's offerings here
๐ Get yourself a physical copy of Personal Socrates
๐๏ธ Listen to Marc's Podcast Behind the HumanConnect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System Mastery
This is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:
๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode's show-notes + timestamps
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
In this episode, I'm speaking with Tom Morgan โ who after 15 years on Wall Street and experiencing what he describes as a "hellish midlife transition" (which is putting it mildly) has emerged with profound insights about human development and โ especially relevant for this podcast โ the nature of curiosity itself.
In this conversation, we explored:
๐ง How we might navigate the delicate balance between intellectual understanding and embodied wisdom, especially for high-achieving individuals seeking deeper meaning in their lives๐๏ธ An insight about what he calls "intellectual recapture" โ which is the tendency, especially among highly educated or successful people, to turn spiritual or embodied practices into yet another achievement to conquer.
โก Practical insights about designing personal experiments and the importance of what he calls "minimum viable woo" โ finding ways to engage with transformative practices that don't require abandoning our critical thinking.
Official Links๐ Follow Tom on Twitter/X @tomowenmorgan
๐ Read Tom's Writing at The Leading Edge
โ๏ธ Apply to join the Leading Edge CommunityConnect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System Mastery
This is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:
๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode show-notes + timestamps
๐น Want to create a Hollywood-quality home studio? Get in touch with Kevin Shen here & save $500 with code JONNYSENT500OFF
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
Iโm speaking with theoretical neuroscientist Michael Edward Johnson โ who, after spending seven years researching consciousness and writing the book Principia Qualia, has developed a revolutionary theory that could fundamentally change how we understand trauma, meditation, and human wellbeing.
Mikeโs theory of โlatchesโ โ what he calls vasocumputation โ may provide a testable and concrete biological mechanism for how trauma gets stored in the body, and how to release it effectively.
This sounds nerdy and abstract, but itโs my belief that if his claims can be tested and validated โ it would revolutionize the medical system and allow somatic modalities or MDMA-assisted therapy to be compared and tested side-by-side in their efficacy and we could harness the scientific method for ways to release trauma.
Official Links
๐ Follow Michael on Twitter/X @johnsonmxe
๐ Read Michael's Research + Writing on opentheory.net
โ๏ธ Michael's deep dive twitter thread on VasocomputationConnect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System Mastery
This is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:
๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode show-notes + timestamps
๐น Want to create a Hollywood-quality home studio? Get in touch with Kevin Shen here & save $500 with code JONNYSENT500OFF
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
Iโve been following Riverโs substack essays for a few years now and I feel a real kinship with his irreverent and genuinely unique perspectives โ as well as his talent for self-experimentation and weaving together esoteric yet incredibly practical concepts which he uses for self-exploration.
In this conversation, you can expect to learn:
๐ฌ How River was able to use somatic-based practices to go from experiencing an incessant inner-critic and suicidal ideation, to almost no inner-dialogue and opening up access to his emotions.
๐ง We explore the dynamic between what he calls Systems Mode that dominates our culture vs. a more Spontaneous Mode of being.
๐ We both riff on how the ideas of Bill Plotkin are essential for these times, and what it means to โdie wellโ in order to become genuine adults and experience a sense of aliveness.
Official Links๐ Follow River on Twitter/X
๐ Read River's substack essays
๐จโ๐ Check out River'sexcellent course Somatic Resonance
Connect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System Mastery
This is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:
๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode show-notes + timestamps
๐น Want to create a Hollywood-quality home studio? Get in touch with Kevin Shen here & save $500 with code JONNYSENT500OFF
๐ Test out my favourite journaling app using journal prompts that have made a huge impact in my life. -
In this conversation, Iโm speaking with my good friend and cofounder of Ultraspeaking Tristan de Montebello. Tristan has an incredible story of training to become a finalist in the World Championship of Public Speaking in just seven months.
In this conversation, you can expect to learn:
๐ฃ Tristan's radical approach of focusing on impromptu speaking rather than scripted speeches
๐ฌ Unlocking capacity for self-expression & why the key starts with learning to speak before you think
๐ด How they developed games for practicing more authentic self-expression
๐ง The magic of what Tristan calls โThe Butler in your subconsciousโ
Official LinksInspired by Tristan's insights? Dive deeper into the world of authentic, powerful communication with Tristanโs โUltimate Speaking Playbookโ. He created this free email course to offer practical tips and strategies to help you speak with confidence and clarity. ๐ โGet the Ultimate Speaking Playbook
๐ฃ Check out Ultraspeaking
๐ Say hi to Tristan on Twitter/XConnect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System Mastery
This is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:
๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode show-notes + timestamps
๐น Want to create a Hollywood-quality home studio? Get in touch with Kevin Shen here & save $500 with code JONNYSENT500OFF -
A few years back Ali decided to quit his job as a junior doctor in the UK to become a full time YouTuber. Since then his career and life has skyrocketed โ heโs built a channel with over 5.5 million youtube subscribers and recently published a New York Times Bestselling book called โFeel Good Productivityโ
In this conversation Ali shares:
๐จ His experience with imposter syndrome whilst writing his book
๐ง Recent insights around 'leaving mental health on the table'
โ๏ธ How heโs been intentionally de-optimising his life
โ The radical question of what would life and business look like if you optimized for enjoyment?
๐ฌ What advice would he give to me as someone in the very early stages of starting a new Youtube channelItโs a phenomenal conversation, also thanks to our friend Marc Koenig, recorded in beautiful 4K video which you can watch on youtube if you wish.
Official Links๐ฌ Ali's Youtube Channel
๐ Ali's Book Book Feel-Good ProductivityConnect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System Mastery
This is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode show-notes + timestamps
๐น Want to create a Hollywood-quality home studio? Get in touch with Kevin Shen here & save $500 with code JONNYSENT500OFF -
Iโm speaking with co-founder of Reboot Jerry Colonna. Jerry is one of the most infamous executive coaches in the world โ with a reputation for making CEOs cry and asking devastatingly poignant self-reflection questions.
In this conversation, we explore:
๐ท๏ธ Jerry's inner journey discovering his mythopoetic identity and how that has informed the coaching work he is so known for
๐โโ๏ธ The idea that one measure of a leader is the numerous of people who feel safe enough to belong
๐ The root causes of the global intimacy disorder that our culture is experiencing
โค๏ธ The very human tension between longing and belonging that we all experience on some deep level.I walked away from this conversation deeply moved by Jerryโs sincerity and hope that some of his wisdom is passed on through this audio artifact that we are miraculously able to partake in.
Official Links
๐ Jerry's latest book Reunion
๐โโ๏ธ Executive Coaching Company RebootConnect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System Mastery
This is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode show-notes + timestamps
๐น Want to create a Hollywood-quality home studio? Get in touch with Kevin Shen here & save $500 with code JONNYSENT500OFF -
Ben is the author of the phenomenal new book: The Way Home: Discovering the Hero's Journey to Wholeness at Midlife. I was really excited to talk to Ben because the heroโs journey has been a framework that I still use myself as a way of orienting and meaning making. Ben shares how his own life has been a series of spiraling journeys, embodying the heroโs path.
In this conversation, you can expect to learn:
๐ Challenges of refusing the call to adventure
๐คทโโ๏ธ The transition between evasion and embracing the unknown.
๐ง The work of Bill Plotkin, and how it's influenced his life
๐ฃ Exploring the significance of wandering as a means of revelation
๐ A powerful concept of giving your gift in a generative wayOfficial Links
๐ Ben Katt's Book โ The Way Home: Discovering the Hero's Journey to Wholeness at Midlife
๐ Follow Ben on InstagramConnect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System Mastery
This is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:
๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode show-notes + timestamps
๐น Want to create a Hollywood-quality home studio? Get in touch with Kevin Shen here & save $500 with code JONNYSENT500OFF -
Marcela Otโalora worked as the lead co-therapist and principal investigator for all of the MAPS โ which stands for Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies โ MDMA-assisted psychotherapy studies. She has also been designing curriculum and training therapists associated with MAPS.
In this conversation, which we recorded together in our home here in Boulder Colorado, we explored how she found her way into this work over three decades ago, possible tension I perceived between the clinical aspect of these studies and the sacredness of the work, how she trains therapists in the rare art of being able to hold space for deep transformation, and what she believes is happening that has led to the extraordinary results that the MAPS trials have created โ a 71% reduction in otherwise untreatable symptoms of PTSD.
Official Links
๐จโ๐ฌ MAPS MDMA Research and Resources (link)
Connect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter
๐ซ Episode Sponsor โ Nervous System MasteryThis is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
~~
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:
๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode show-notes + timestamps
๐น Want to create a Hollywood-quality home studio? Get in touch with Kevin Shen here & save $500 with code JONNYSENT500OFF -
I'm choosing to republish this episode that I had with David Whyte four years ago, because I had found myself revisiting his timeless book Consolationsโ and rediscovering wisdom that felt appropriate for these times โ which has remained within an arm's reach of my bedside ever since I first discovered it. It ratcheted open my mind to a new perspective on the definitions of words like Ambition, Courage and Heartbreak, that I thought I previously understood.
Iโm not sure how to even begin to describe exactly what David does. On paper, he's an acclaimed poet, a writer, and a philosopher. But to my mind, after having spent a magical week with him on the Irish Atlantic coastline on one of his poetry walking tours, I feel like he's a true elder with a deep philosophical curiosity and gift for weaving together our inner and outer worlds in what he calls 'the conversational nature of realityโ.
Itโs a wide-ranging conversation, and towards the end, we cover some really interesting ground on the questions he believes weโre living our way into as a society and how childhood is the act of growing older whilst adulthood is the act of growing younger back into body back into our birthright visionary experience of the world.
Official Links๐ Follow David on Twitter, Facebook or Youtube
๐ Read the full transcript (with my photos of Ireland) over on Medium
๐ถโโ๏ธ Apply for one of David's upcoming walking tours in Ireland, the Lake District, Tuscany & New Zealand
๐ Watch David's TED Talk 'A lyrical bridge between past, present and future'
๐ฅ๏ธ Find out everything else David is up to at davidwhyte.com
Connect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
๐ Sign up to The Inner Frontier Newsletter
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This is my flagship 5-week bootcamp designed to equip you with evidence-backed protocols to cultivate calm and emotional regulation. Our 8th cohort will run in Fall 2025 ~ and applications are currently open. My sense is that if this conversation resonates with you, then you'd likely be a great fit for our upcoming cohort. This curriculum represents my attempt to distill everything I've learned in recent years about creating the conditions for our nervous system's flourishing. It's run in an intensive cohort-based way since this is, in my experience, the most efficient way to embody and practice the protocols.
Previous students have shared how partaking improved their sleep and quality of relationships and tapped into deeper states of joy, clarity, and confidence in their lives. We've had over 1000 students have completed this training, and many have said that it has been the most impactful thing they've ever done for their personal growth โ so if you're intrigued at all, you can find more details and apply to join this year's cohort over at nsmastery.com
~~
Further Ways to Support the Podcast:
๐๏ธ I use Riverside to record all of my podcast conversations (it's so much better than zoom for podcasting!)
๐ง I also use Transistor to host this podcast, it's fricking awesome, and I would highly recommend.
๐ RaOptics make the world's best Blue Blockers โ I wear these anytime I'm out of the house after dark, and it makes a huge difference!
๐ค I use AI wizardry from Castmagic to help with each episode show-notes + timestamps
๐น Want to create a Hollywood-quality home studio? Get in touch with Kevin Shen here & save $500 with code JONNYSENT500OFF -
In this episode, I am speaking with Steve March โ who is, although maybe lesser known in the public sphere, what he has created with Aletheia, which we will get into โ is, to my mind, a revolutionary innovation in the realm of human development and how we orient to personal growth.
Expect to have your paradigm of personal growth turned upside down as we cover:
โ๏ธ Self-development vs. Self-unfoldment, which points to why so much of the personal development industry and individual efforts to self-improve are doomed to fail from the outset. And how might we make a New Year resolution as unfolding, with no improvement?๐ The Four Depths Model โ and how different modalities work differently with different depths. Leveraging emergence by exploring the radical question of 'What if nothing is missing? What if we are whole?'
๐ง The Neuroscience of Enduring Transformation โ take-aways from Steve's paper for using micro-practises within a 5-hour window to take advantage of the heightened window of neuroplasticity.
๐ถโโ๏ธ 4x Actionable Principles โ to explore the concept of poetic attunement in your own life โ including an invitation to let go of any self-improvement agendas and specific blindspots to pay attention to.
Official Links
๐โโ๏ธ Learn about upcoming Aletheia Offerings: integralunfoldment.com
๐ Steve's recent paper on the neuroscience of enduring transformation (link)
Connect + Explore More from Jonny
๐ฆ Follow on Twitter/X @jonnym1ller
๐ซ Learn more about Nervous System Mastery
๐ชท Order our deck of Calm Cards (these make great gifts)
๐ฑ Check out Stateshift โ our brand new iOS + Android app
๐ Take the Nervous System Quotient (NSQ) Self-Assessment (totally free)
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