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âMenage a Phyllisâ (November 2, 1974)
In the third-season episode âMy Brotherâs Keeper,â Rhoda famously said the word âgay,â turning a plot about her association with Phyllisâ brother on its head. Two seasons later, Phyllis shows up in another episode that discusses gay issues but weirdly doesnât say that word. Regardless, thereâs perhaps more to be made of the newsroomâs opinions about what codes as gay, and Dan Steadman returns to discuss this and what weâll call the âMurray Slaughter problem.â
Read Dead Buckleyâs 2018 piece âQueer Coding on the Mary Tyler Moore Showâ
Episodes referenced:
Danâs previous episode, âMike Seaver Actually Said the Word âGayââ Our previous Mary Tyler Moore episode, âMary and Rhoda Meet a Homoâ Our episode âPhyllis Dates a Homoâ Our episode âThe Dream On Guy Has a Gay Dadâ -
âCousin Geriâ (December 24, 1980)
Fun game for listeners: Take a shot every time Drew mentions the phrase âgigantic bitchâ in connection with Lisa Welchelâs Blair, who is in rare form this episode as she shuns her disabled cousin Geri for reasons that arenât the ones youâre probably assuming. In this discussion, we bring up why Geri Jewell is a trailblazer as far as being queer and also one other thing and also why âactress recurring on Deadwoodâ is lowkey code for lesbian.
Erin Fletcher, we want you back for that Saved by the Bell episode.
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âGay Bashâ (November 10, 2004)
For better or worse, Drawn Together represents a very real trend in mid-2000s humor. It specifically sought out to tell the most offensive jokes it could get on air, but thatâs what makes it surprising that the episode where Xandir admits heâs gay isnât the parade of easy jokes you might expect. The B plot sucks rancid balls, to the point that we donât even use clips from it in this discussion, but you might be surprised how this animated reality show makes its token gay a sympathetic guy.
Check out Bradley Smithâs YouTube interview with series creators Dave Jesser and Matt Silvertsein, from which we grabbed a few anecdotes about the development of Drawn Together.
Listen to our Cartoons That Made Us Gay episode about the Legend of Zelda cartoon.
Listen to the Best Movies Never Made podcast, hosted by Golan the Insatiable creator Josh Miller.
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âDye! Dye! My Darling!â (August 2, 2000)
Spend a little time in a Daria fan community and youâll find folks who ship the title character with her best friend, Jane. The show actually never does a gay episode and only gets the slightest bit queer in the first movie, Is It Fall Yet?, which has Jane affirming her heterosexuality despite how very queer she might seem. In this episode, weâre discussing the nonetheless existent lesbian vibes between Daria and Jane â and who better to offer input on this than Talking Simpsons cohost Bob Mackey? Sure, heâs straight, but it turns out that straight men can relate to female characters too. (We were shocked!)
As it turns out, Bob and Henryâs What a Cartoon podcast covers not only the Daria episode that immediately precedes this one, âFire!â and also âThe Misery Chick,â which as we discuss is a crucial turning point in the development of Daria Morgandorfer.
This week, Glen and Drew are guests on Talking Simpsons, discussing "Three Gays of the Condo" and why it's not great! If you need more of our voices in your life, have a listen here.
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âLucy and Jim Baileyâ (November 6, 1972)
Basically, Lucille Ball did a solid for one gay performer, but in doing this, she also helped make gays a little less scary for America. Jim Bailey was a female impersonator who who had already made appearances on late night TV for this uncanny ability to turn himself into female celebs. Lucy, however, gave him a showcase on her popular prime time sitcom, showing her viewers that not only were drag queens not scary, but in fact they can be a lot of fun.
Watch the episode of The Lucy Show where Lucy almost drowned on Tubi. And read the book that details both versions of the story on Archive.org.
What the episode of the Desilu-produced game show You Donât Say.
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People use the term âthe lost yearsâ differently when speaking of Saturday Night Live, but this podcast is using it specifically from the time Lorne Michaels left the show after season five up until season eleven. Aside from Eddie Murphyâs presence on the show, these are the sketches that are less remembered today because they werenât rerun on Comedy Central in the 2000s as much and theyâre largely absent from the cache of episodes preserved online today. And thatâs too bad, because this is when the show boasted some legends in the cast â Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Billy Crystal, Joan Cusack, Robert Downey Jr., Martin Short and Damon Wayans among them, as well as queer cast members Terry Sweeney, Denny Dillon and Danitra Vance.
The sketches (and click here if you want to watch them):
âSoHo Lesbiansâ (S6E10: Debbie Harry) âLittle Richard Simmonsâ (S7E1: No host) âJames Coburn Is a Homosexualâ (S7E11: James Coburn) âFocus on Film: Making Loveâ (S7E12: Bruce Dern) âPenny Laneâ (S10E11: Roy Scheider) âPinklistingâ (S11E1: Madonna) âMr. Monopolyâ (S11E12: Griffin Dunne) Monologue (S11E16: Catherine Oxenberg) âLesbian Pick-Upsâ (S11E18: Anjelica Huston)Go shop at our TeePublic store!
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âEvolutionâ (August 19, 1999)
If you came of age in the late 90s or early 2000s, you live in a world informed by Sex and the City â whether you realize it or not. Itâs probably one of the most influential TV shows to air during our lifetimes, and so itâs more than time that we look at one of its many LGBTQ-themed episodes. Joining us to discuss Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte is returning guest Gwynedd Stuart, who has big feelings about why this show matters.
Listen to Gwyneddâs previous episode about Soap.
Most of Drewâs background on how SATC ended up at HBO comes from this Vulture article. And here is the 1991 New York Times article about Woody Allen and Mia Farrow waving at each other from across Central Park.
Listen to Drew discussing Bowser, King of the Koopa, on the Retronauts podcast.
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"Homes and Jojo" (May 1, 1989)
Newhart is a show about white people who live in the snow, and while 70s-era Bob Newhart sitcom is the one pop culture remembers better, this is the longer-lived, more-Emmy-nominated of the two. What the 80s-era Bob New1hart sitcom has working in its favor are future Simpsons showrunner David Mirkin, who gives a host of wacky townspeople not unlike what youâd find in Springfield, and the duo of Julia Duffy and Peter Scolari, who male a perfect yuppie couple worthy of mockery. Itâs great. Here, learn about it.
Listen to Smart Mouth, GEEâs sister show, and in particular check out the episode âQueer Foodâ with John Birdsall, because if youâre listening to this podcast youâre probably queer and probably also you eat food.
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âBlank Relayâ (August 13, 2000)
Honestly, we could have picked just about any episode of Strangers With Candy to focus on for this podcast about queer themes, but we ended up deciding on the one where we see Jerri Blank at her most girl hungry. Itâs light on Mr. Noblet and Mr. Jellineck, but we can always circle back to this one in another two hundred episodes, right?
Watch the Exit 57 âDown in the Basementâ sketch, which does not translate especially well to an audio-only format.
Watch The Trip Back, the 1970 PSA featuring Florrie Fisher, the real-life inspiration for Jerri Blank.
Listen to the two-part Rasputin episode of the Unexplained podcast.
And we dropped a whole hell of a lot of Sam Pancake Presents the Monday Afternoon Movie episodes. Here are all of them:
Angel Dusted with Gedde Watanabe (the one where Helen Hunt doesnât jump through a window) Desperate Lives with Arden Myrin (the one where she *does* jump through a window) It Happened One Christmas with Sarah Thyre The Cat Creature with Becky Thyre And finally Crowhaven Farm and A Vacation in Hell, both with Rose Abdoo -
âJoeyâs First Crushâ (January 28, 1987)
Few other shows changed as much as Gimme a Break, which began as a fish-out-of-water sitcom that had Nell Carter playing mom to three white girls in California but ended up with Nell and her best friend, Telma Hopkinsâ Addy, co-parenting two white boys in New York. Minus the kids, itâs basically a female-female twist on Perfect Strangers, only they donât get steady boyfriends. Perhaps in an effort to make the show seem less gay, they tossed in a happily married character⌠who was played by newcomer Rosie OâDonnell. This episode, which is the second of Gimme a Breakâs outings to feature actual gay characters, showcases a lot of how this show ended up pretty damn gay.
⌠Now that I think about it, maybe the only sitcom that changed as much over its run was Ellen â and thatâs pretty notable, right?
Listen to our previous Gimme a Break episodes.
Learn all about Betty and Barney Hill in the Monday Afternoon Movie episode about 1975âs The UFO Incident.
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Andy Gibb dueting with Nell Carter on Gimme a Break Gimme a Breakâs famous Motown medley Rosie OâDonnell on Star Search -
âLisa the Drama Queenâ (January 25, 2009)
So hereâs an interesting one. In its twentieth season, The Simpson did an episode inspired by Heavenly Creatures, the 1994 Peter Jackson movie that has Kate Winslet and Melanie Lynskey playing schoolgirls who flee into a fantasy world and also each other. More than a decade later, this story would play out again, only with Lisa Simpson and a new character voiced by Emily Blunt, and that might seem like a strange combo, especially because the Simpson version nixes the sex and violence of the original, but it nonetheless works.
Special thanks to the writer of this episode, Brian Kelley, for sharing his memories of how this episode came to be.
For a limited time, you can still screen Heavenly Creatures via the GEE Patreon, but that window is closing. Info here.
Listen to Drew on the In Retrospect podcastâs episodes about the âlesbian/Lebaneseâ joke (part one & part two)
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âGuess Whoâs Coming to Dinnerâ (November 29, 2011
Yes, Tim Allenâs follow-up to Home Improvement got branded as the most conservative sitcom on network TV, but is that fair? Weâre honestly not sure, because the ninth episode of Last Man Standingâs first season features a gay couple. Weâre mostly good with how this plays out, but we also think this show changed in its second season. Weâre also skimming over the second-season episode âBullying,â which ended up arguing that itâs okay to say âgay.â Key takeaway: Tim Allen may be less conservative than Kelsey Grammer.
Listen to our Home Improvement episode.
Remember a short-lived sitcom from Fox's early days? Tell us about it (thereâs a thread on Patreon thatâs open to even non-members), and we may cover it for our upcoming bonus miniseries, The Fox Files!
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âSorority Houseâ (February 8, 1961)
A few times on this podcast, weâve bent over backwards to find a gay interpretation of a sitcom that never did anything gay, but this is not one of those. Mister Ed was developed by Arthur Lubin, a closeted gay director who was married to a woman but eventually ended up cohabitating with a male companion. Itâs interesting, then, that heâd be into making a TV show out of a story about Wilbur Post, whoâs married to a woman and whoâs outwardly a traditional guy even if his most significant relationship is with a male â a horse, but a male nonetheless â that he has to keep secret. Primitive though it might be, Mister Ed is actually the blueprint for more traditional magic sitcoms like Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie.
You can watch this episode of Mister Ed for free on archive.org.
Want to hear your words on an upcoming GEE? Weâre covering the Simpsons episode âLisa the Drama Queenâ and therefore weâre offering patrons a chance to watch the movie that inspired it: 1994âs Heavenly Creatures, which is not easy to watch online nowadays. Details at the GEE Patreon.
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âFathers and Sonsâ (May 3, 2003)
And weâre back! Our first regular episode of the new year returns to the first-ever show we discussed: Frasier. Itâs the episode where David Ogden Stiers plays an old colleague of Frasierâs late mother who acts more like Frasier and Niles than Martin does. This is the final time the series put a spotlight on the series innate queerness, and in selecting Stiers, it also tacitly endorses the notion that his M*A*S*H character helped inspire Frasier Crane.
Listen to Unsafe Spaces, Josh Hallmarkâs new true crime podcast about serial murders in Tampaâs gay community â and while youâre at it, also give a listen to his other podcast, True Crime Bullshit, about serial killer Israel Keyes.
Want to hear your words on an upcoming GEE? Weâre covering the Simpsons episode âLisa the Drama Queenâ and therefore weâre offering patrons a chance to watch the movie that inspired it: 1994âs Heavenly Creatures, which is not easy to watch online nowadays. Details at the GEE Patreon.
Listen to our previous Frasier episodes.
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âColdhearted Uranus: Makoto in Dangerâ (May 14, 1994)
Itâs a new year, and weâre giving you a new episode of Sailor Moon â now with 200 percent more lesbian content! This third-season episode not only showcases Haruka/Sailor Uranus and Michiru/Sailor Neptune, but also uses them as a way to explore how Makoto/Sailor Jupiter is the most queer-coded of the core five Sailor Guardians. Whatâs most notable about this episode, however, is the fact that the Viz dub of it actually re-writes the original Japanese dialogue to seem less homophobic than the original version was.
Read Drewâs Thrilling Tales of Old Video Games post if you want to know how the connection to Rose of Versailles.
And check out the lengthy Twitter thread posted in response to the first Sailor Moon episode, about why it wasnât surprising to have a same-sex couple in the first season of the show.
Watch the clip comparing Mollyâs original DiC accent to Mia Farrowâs.
And hereâs the Reddit thread looking into how the Viz dub played down the homophobia of the original version of this episode.
Listen to the first Sailor Moon episode, about Zoisite, on the main feed *or* if youâre fancy listen to the new Sailor Moon episode, about Fisheye, on the Patreon feed.
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âThe Bleakeningâ (December 10, 2017)
Weâre closing out 2023 with a two-part Bobâs Burgers Christmas mystery that also happens to be the last episode a cult favorite trans character, Marshmallow, appeared in before vanishing from the series for six years. This is basically our way of discussing the âSheesh! Cab, Bob?â episode without having to drag you all through it, because for all its flaws, it did give the world the cherished treasure that is Marshmallow. Happy holidays!
Watch the Bobâs Burgers-Archer mashup that got Simon Chong a job making art for this show â starting with this very episode.
Totally Trans watched that Lady Ballers movie so you donât have to!
Listen to our previous Bob's Burgers episode, about Bob's alleged bisexuality.
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A new episode on a Tuesday?! Well, the way our schedule ended up working out was that we are finishing the year with two Christmas episodes, and we figured it would be better to get those both out before the actual holiday, so youâre getting this today and then our second Christmas ep (and the last ep of 2023) on Friday. Enjoy, we hope!
âSeasonâs Greetingsâ (December 14, 1987)
Perhaps you havenât heard of Frankâs Place. All the incentive you need for this episode is that Frankâs Place is that it won Emmys, it won critical praise, and itâs still remembered today as a showcase for a type of black American who wasnât often depicted on the small screen. Despite all that, it only lasted a single season. Brian Cronin joins us to discuss perhaps the only sitcom episode to feature a Hanukkah dinner ruined by a coming out. And BTW, there is a twist ending we are still unsettled by.
Read Brianâs work at CBR but also at his website, Pop Culture References, which frequently dives deep into sitcom history.
Watch this Frankâs Place (and all episodes, if you want) at archive.org.
Read the LA Times piece we cite in this discussion here.
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âA Boy Like Thatâ (April 24, 1997)
Heads up: We briefly discuss suicide episode in discussing on of this showâs cast members. If youâre experiencing suicidal thoughts, the U.S. hotline to call is 988.
Well, it took us 214 episodes, but we finally arrived at Suddenly Susan. You might dismiss Brook Shieldsâ entry into the post-Friends landscape as an also-ran, and you are maybe right, but this first-season gay episode manages to give more depth and consideration to its one-off gay character than its fellow Must See TV alums did. Thatâs something. Plus Kathy Griffin is here.
Hereâs the LA Times article cited in this piece, and hereâs the Entertainment Weekly piece
Buy Josh Trujilloâs new book, Washington's Gay General: The Legends and Loves of Baron Von Steuben.
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Welcome to the first of our in-depth looks at LGBTQ humor in specific eras of Saturday Night Live. Of course, weâre starting at the beginning, in the classic era, and yeah, some of them are better than youâd guess and some of them are so much worse. Itâs a real grab bag, but there are lessons to be learned about how SNL came to be what it is today and how American humor has evolved since 1975. Buy Josh Trujilloâs new book, Washington's Gay General: The Legends and Loves of Baron Von Steuben. Watch all the sketches featured in this episode here. Here are the sketches, in order: Jamitol (S1E1: George Carlin, Oct. 11 1975) Long Distance (S1E4: Candice Bergen, Nov. 8 1975) Latent Elf (S1E8: Candice Bergen, Dec. 20 1975) Household Hints (S1E16: Anthony Perkins, March 13, 1976) The Snake-Handling OâSheas (S2E2: Norman Lear, Sep. 25, 1976) Monologue (S4E11: Cicely Tyson, Feb. 10, 1979) The Ex-Police (S4E11: Cicely Tyson, Feb. 10, 1979) Miles Cowperthwaite (S4E18: Michael Palin, May 12, 1979) Not for Transexuals Only (S4E20: Buck Henry, May 26, 1979) The Continuing Correspondences of Eleanor Roosevelt (S5E3: Bill Russell, Oct. 20 1979)
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âNell and the Kidâ (April 28, 1983)
As if network TV didnât have enough sitcoms about non-biological parents stepping in to care for parentless children, Gimme a Break â itself a show about a woman acting as a substitute mother for three girls â has a second season episode in which Nell Carterâs character meets a spunky orphan (LaShana Dendy) and then entrusts her to the care of the neighborhood deli owner (Don Rickles). It didnât end up becoming its own series, but Drew and Glen are pretty sure that this serves as a sort of soft launch for another show that has the same premise and which launched on NBCâs schedule the following fall.
You can watch this episode of Gimme a Break on YouTube.
Listen to us discuss Gimme a Breakâs gay episode.
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