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When I got into thinking how mindset and, in particular, how an experimental mindset was fundamental to navigating a complex and volatile world, I was intrigued with the way scientists approached their work ā for example, not being tied to goals, or pre-determined outcomes and analysing the data from their experiments ā and how this could be the blueprint for our own life journey ā living your life as a series of experiments, using the findings from these experiments or experiences to take to the next experience. This then led me to thinking that musicians have long lived with that uncertainty and volatility that many more people with hitherto linear lives are now facing, so I should explore the role that all the characteristics of an experimental mindset has played in their lives.
And here we are with this podcast!
Ok, so whatās the link to Simonne Jones?
Well, she is a musician, producer, composer, scientific researcher, humanitarian, visual artist, multi-instrumentalist, public speaker, and since 2021, a Sneaker Pimp (I wish Iād been a Ramone but, hey, wrong time, wrong place and all that. Iām not bitter).
To me, this is a fascinating, multi-hyphenate, polymathic approach to living life, one very much in keeping with the multi-stage, multi-experience lives that we are now seeing much more of, effectively usurping the traditional three stage lives of education, work, retirement.
It was a privilege to listen to Simonne's amazing journey and fascinating take on the world through the lens of all her experiences and attributes.https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
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Iām always trying to work out why certain artists hit me as soon as I hear them. There are some that are a mystery as to why the fuck I like them. Like, why am I still in love with Anastasiaās Welcome To My Truth after all these years? But I can tell you what I love about N8NOFACE's @N8NOFACE music ā itās primal, raw, subversive, underground, heavy, manic, chaotic, stuttering, exciting, surprising, and propelled massively by so many influences and musical styles that you could easily spend a day amusing yourself reading all these descriptions of his music like synth punk, techno punk, punk-hop, cyber chiptune punk, rave punk, fucking psychosomatic firestarter punk, I dunno. I made up a lot of those. Maybe being so clear about what it is that I adore about his music will help me understand why adore it. I mean, I have a few ideasā¦.
His LP, Lās Up, is 20 minutes and 10 tracks worth of all of the above and more. I think itās his best yet of what is an enormous output, particularly over the last 7 years or so.
NOTE: Since we recorded this episode, he has released Crime Partnerā¦.and boy, is that another scintillating piece of work, again showing another departure from previous sounds
His story, to me, is one of never giving up, of the power of just putting your stuff out there, no matter how long it takes you to do it, of just giving it a go and keeping on fucking trying to find your niche, find your tribe of people who love what you do.
Doesnāt take a genius to work out that Nate is one of those artists that just hit me and Iām really excited to try to understand whatās made him the person he is and how he navigates through the world.https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
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Iām really into this notion of music being your friend for life and how certain songs represent a particular point in your life, good or bad. Thereās one song that sticks in my mind which represents such a dark time in my life. And now, looking back at it, I can see how much Iāve changed and sometimes itās hard to play that song. Iāve played and sang other composerās songs in front of people - letās just say that it was a few years ago ā and I know that if I sang them now, it would be like getting into a time transporter, but the part Iām missing is writing those songs and how Iād feel if Iād written them and gone through the massive personal evolution and identity shifts of the last few years?
The other thing Iāve found about shifting identity is presenting your new self, presenting things youāve not done before, stuff youāve not talked about before. Itās interesting how some people will be used to the āoldā version of you and how they react to the ānewā version of you ā or perhaps that should read the ārealā version of you. And whether the people, whose reaction to all of these things we fear, do actually give a fuck and how we are perceived is all in our mind. Moreover, why should I care? I went through all of this when I started doing this podcast, started writing, started doing graphic designā¦ok, so I basically get this whenever I start anything new!
Jennifer Clavin has written and released music over the last 20 years or so, with Mika Miko and Bleached, that is raw, beautifully exhilarating and has that ability to take you to your own time and place ā I find this so powerful - and is now steadily releasing a bunch self-recorded, stripped down, incredibly personal, lo-fi songs as ādear francisā, the latest evolution in an emotional musical story.https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
One of the pages on Leigh Heggarty's website is called āMe Me Me, itās all about meā. A cursory look through this and the other pages would most clearly identify someone who has lived a substantial part of his life very much NOT promoting Me Me Me, rather being very self deprecating and perhaps uncomfortable talking about himself or what he has achieved in life. This all sounds very familiar to me, Iāve often used self deprecating āhumourā to lighten situations where Iāve felt Iām a bit of an imposter. Iām tons better but itās a battleā¦.
And it is a battle, but a battle for what? It makes me wonder about all the characteristics that make up our very unique personality and why some traits are stigmatised and others ā like confidence, self-belief - are seen as the symbol of success, whereas others such a shyness even introversion are not. Is society at largeās definition of success fucked up? Please write your answer in no more than 8,000 chapters or just one word.
Anyway, you wouldnāt notice any of the shyness of childhood when he steps on stage to pick up his guitar - well, perhaps a slightly bashful smile and wave to the crowd - to play with Ruts DC, a band that has already secured a most wonderful legacy and continues to do so with each gig they play and each piece of music that they release.
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I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
As someone who has played the cello in my much more youthful days and is ineffectively trying to resurrect past glory, I fully appreciate Kishi Bashi's love of the violin and the way he uses that instrument in his compositions. You can literally hear it cascading through every release he has done ā from the Room for Dream EP to the epic music and soundtrack for his film Omoiyari.
He is an epic multi-hyphenate - songwriter, singer, multi-instrumentalist, film maker, father, husband who has used his creativity, his energy and whole being to produce art that, well, makes you pay attention through the exquisiteness and purity of the songwriting and its humanity.
There have been so many things that have fascinated me, intrigued me, filled me with respect and admiration, not least the ever-present authenticity in his work but also how that work conjures such strong emotions in me. Even though I find myself getting emotional at the smallest things these days ā itās getting ridiculous quite frankly ā and even more so with some of the horrific acts of prejudice, greed and narcissism that structurally pervade our society - there are still only a few songwriters that can do this.
Now, heās back with what I think is his musically most diverse (and thatās saying something) LP to follow up the stunning Omoiyari. Itās called Kantos and it was really exciting to hear about it all and to delve into some of the mindset topics that Iāve noticed present in his work, like emotional intelligence, curiosity, resilience and adaptability.
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I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
Iāve long thought about our individual persona or personas and this idea of ever evolving identities ā¦for example, people who have work and non-work personas: the arsehole in work, nice as pie out of work; the surprising competitive aggression at the work social bowling alley do, the extroverted party goer (ok, so there might be some substance impact for that one) ā kinda like Henry the mild mannered janitor morphing into Hong Kong Phooey (does anyone remembers that show?!)
What does this mean for the authentic you? Who actually are you?
I think Iāve come to the conclusion that the times Iāve felt uncomfortable with the way I was behaving, was more to do with dissatisfaction with the environment and company I was keeping rather than myself and my identities, so eventually Iāve taken action to change them.
This led me to start thinking about why, for example, institutions, companies, communities, social networks seem to exhibit their own personality and employees, members or whatever can start to take on that personality and behaviours, which might be at loggerheads with their own individuality. How malleable is our individuality? How do we unearth that authenticity, when we strip away the masks and show ourselves devoid of external influences?
And do these scenarios exist in bands? And especially in artistic or creative collaborations, which is really the very essence of individuality coming together, how do we as collaborators come together to achieve common goals?
Neil Cowley has just released his first record (although it hadn't been released when we recorded this) with his two longstanding friends and cohorts who had so much acclaim as The Neil Cowley Trio prior to its hiatus 7 years ago. Their reunion and reconnection, and the making of this record, perhaps provides some answers to my most mind churning questions!https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
Over the last few years, Iāve been trying to work out why certain things in my life have turned out the way they have. Friendships has been a particular thing thatās been on my mind, in particular why Iāve tended to let some slide. Iāve had occasions where Iāve reconnected with lost friends and family and realised just how important they are. Having said that, I do think that the way we handle friendships is kinda different to that of my parents generation, when it was definitely friendships for life. More people live a nomadic life these days, so community is less of a thing, and also Iām much more aware of my own identity shifting as I get older and whatās important to me changing and I think this impacts who comes on our own journey with us. I think it makes you realise how powerful your real friendships are.
Nicolette Vilar has dedicated her life to the creative arts as a fabulous graphic and visual arts designer and also the singer in Go Betty Go where her close, tight friendships with the band members have been forever, endured the rocky road of life and have, I think, been instrumental in the band reforming and recording their soon to be released EP called Black and Blue. The title hints at the bruises, yet itās self-care, time, friendships ā and our old, great mate, music - that help you heal.
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I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
One of the things that I was looking at about 7-8 years ago was the growth of the term āmulti-hyphenateā and how, with us living longer lives (well, that was the case up to 2019, I think Covid has probably affected that a little), more people ā and across all ages - were moving away from the stable job, linear career trajectory and into a more multi-hyphenate way of working which involves doing more than one thing, often 3/4/5/6/7/8 different things. It struck me that many creatives, particularly musicians, have always had so many aspects ā roles if you want - to their lives ā songwriting, playing, producing, poetry, art, promotion, DJāing, band management, tour management, running a label, marketing ā and that if youāre gonna hold up an example of what a multi-hyphenate life looks like, musicians would be it. Itās the DIY ethic that blew up when punk started and has filtered into a whole way of being for future generations.
You canāt really talk about a multi-hyphen life without talking to Tara Rez. Sheās doing all of the above and more and more, including her own band, The Duel, inspired by punk rock, free of any clichĆ©s, rules, boundaries and 100% free spirited.https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
So, as hopefully my faithful and long suffering subscribers will know after 120 + episodes, the whole idea behind this podcast is about the importance of mindset and specifically how an experimental mindset can help us to navigate the world today, a world that is becoming more complex, more volatile, full of more and more contradictions and where outcomes are less and less predictable or certain.
Within our mindset, I really believe that emotional intelligence is one of the most important attributes that we need. I still find it hard to believe that itās not part of our education systems ā well, I donāt find it hard to believe actually, because once you start to teach empathy, self awareness, that kind of stuffā¦ the divide and conquer tactics of the ruling elite start to become less effective and their power starts to be eroded. I do believe that it should be taught to kids as soon as they are born, but I realise that there are a whole load of structural, systemic things that need to be worked out.
X-Raided.
His lifestory is as big a headfuck that you can get.He served a total of 26 years, five months, and 26 days in prison starting in 1992. Heās always been very clear and honest about what he did not do on that lifechanging morning and also very clear and honest about what he did do, about the bad choices he made ā but it needs to be said, because this shit still goes on around the world, that the foundation of the case built to convict him back in 1992 was constructed on the systemic prejudice against black people and people of colour that had been pumped through the veins of the US through government operations like CoinTelPro with all its nefarious, community damaging tactics based on lies and manipulation. This was the longest consecutive sentence served by any musician ever and just six months less than the time Nelson Mandela served.
Whilst he was inside, he produced 12 albums give or take and he continued to create his music when he was released in 2018.
Last yearās A Prayer in Hell was truly outstanding and as we were recording this episode, his latest, the huge 24 track A Sin In Heaven, was about to be released and itās another hypnotic masterclass in how old school can evolve into the present.
Itās powerful, distinguished and full of heart and soul.I always like to take a moment to remember that music is always there for you, it will always come with you on your journey and it will always be your friend.
https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
I'm gonna keep this one brief.
Stress Positions would have been in the list of identity shapers for 14 year old me. No question. They are hands down one of THE most potent and important bands right now. They will pulverise you with their musical and lyrical intensity. And in 30 years time, people will be talking about Stress Positions as they did - and still do - those pioneers of the 80s hardcore scene.
Trust me, they are that good.
I'm so very happy to have had this opportunity to talk to Stephanie Brooks, who takes vocal ferocity and progressiveness to a different level.
Big thanks to Justin Pearson at ThreeOneG for introducing us.https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
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As the devoted fans of this small but perfectly formed podcast will know, Iām a big believer that emotional intelligence is one of THE super powers for navigating the world, especially nowadays with all its complexity, volatility, uncertainty and division. It often feels like the critical components of emotional intelligence ā like self-management, self awareness, empathy and social skills ā are out of reach, I mean I also feel that itās getting out of reach for myself, such is the helplessness and rage that I feel sometimes. Itās the hardest time Iāve ever known for keeping raw emotions in check, at least it is for me.
I went to a talk given by John Robb a month or so ago and he posed the question āDo you believe in the power of rock n roll?ā. It made me think: Do I? What can music do? Music is always my friend, even when the world is going to shit ā and believe me, being in the UK this past week really makes me think it is. It has been and always will be a constant in my life. Itās made me laugh, made me cry and dug me out of holes.
Iāve always believed that politics, protest and social commentary belongs in music. So, I always feel positive when I hear about or listen to musicians that care, ones that believe that we need to strive for unity.
Marquise Fair is doing just that with music to try and bridge those divides with messages of unity, peace and freedom.https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
A few years ago, after I quit my job and decided to go self employed or freelance or whatever, I fell into the trap of trying to start a bit of a hustle which - I still think was a great idea ā but was still with a mindset of doing things in āworkā mode - how to start something and grow it. It was a bit of a fun concept but I was way too serious about it. It wasnāt where my head was at or where it should have been at and it was only through some fairly grumpy and anxiety filled days, weeks and months, that I started to see that. I mentioned that I still think the idea as great, and I do ā it was also about mindset. So what I did, with a massive, inspirational push from my partner, was to flip the idea around and do it in a way that was way more fun and involved a bunch of people that Iāve been listening to since I was a kid: talking to musicians about their mindset and how theyāve navigated their way through life, Yes, everything evolved into this podcast. If this isnāt fun, then Iāll go and stand on the naughty step reserved for big fibbers.
Anne Tong and Bryce Barsten of Chinese American Bear are my wonderful guests today and, if my dodgy research ā just for once - doesnāt let me down, have their own stories around serious and fun and how those two things play out for our creativity and sanity.
They have just released their latest single, Heartbreaker, which is a magnificent slice of 60ās nostalgic, lo-fi pop and I just have the perfect TV soundtrack for it.https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
Nostalgia. Such a layered, gamut-running emotion. That experience of having what you lost or never had, of a band that split up before you could see them, of seeing a band in a venue thatās now a bunch of this-could-be-anywhere apartments, of lovers long lost, of finding yourself. Then thereās the nostalgia for the present, knowing that it wonāt last forever and then thereās future nostalgia where we perhaps blend our past experiences and project them into the future.
Iām gonna read out some lyrics from a song by the Buzzcocks called serendipitouslyā¦.wait for itā¦..āNostalgiaā
āAbout the future I only can reminisce
For what I've had is what I'll never get
And although this may sound strange
My future and my past are presently disarranged
And I'm surfing on a wave of nostalgia for an age yet to comeā
It's wild when you try to get your head round it!
Jason Kwan has been heavily influenced by 70s and 80s pop and has brought this into the present with his debut EP, DĆ©jĆ vu, a magical, romantic and, yep, futuristically nostalgic dream-pop record.https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
Iām really intrigued by instinct and the circumstances in which it can really flourish. For example, Iāve been classically trained ā admittedly many more years ago than Iād care to mention ā and that training can stay with you, or at least the modality or mindset of it can, if not the skills! I also have a tendency to analyse things, which is like watching a political debate ā mind numbingly tedious and utterly pointless. I have got far better at going with my instinct ā must be that thing of not giving a fuck as you get older. But, it intrigues me how an analytical nature and the pull of instinct have co-habited through my lifetime ā it sometimes feels like a metaphor for the many paradoxes that exist in the world today.
Instinct is very much evident in the music of my wonderful guest Anna von Raison , a real clash of musical styles and thereās a noticeable evolution in the soundscape from her first EP 5 years ago with her latest album - and LP end-of-a-trilogy - Salvation, and makes me think about our own evolution - life, identity and experiences as well as a desire that I think we all possess somewhere ā and thatās to experiment, let the subconscious do its work and see where it goes.
Really enjoyed this conversation with Anna about her life, her views, her ways of being and her honesty about so many things including herself.
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I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
For me, emotional intelligence is one of the most important attributes we need today ā things like empathy, self awareness, self regulation, and the ability to interact socially - well, I just feel that they should be taught from the day we are born and, if we donāt, then generation after generation is going to be born into a world where, in the context of our social and political climate, weāre not given those tools, selfishness, indifference and dehumanisation in the very widest sense will continue to grow.
I mention all of this as itās 45 years since The Ruts released their first single, In A Rut, famously and very importantly on Misty In Rootsā label People Unite and still to this day one of the most memorable, anthemic debuts and the first of a seminal series of singles that are still as potent now as they were then. Forward to where we find ourselves now and I find myself thinking that the strong, singular message that David Ruffy and The Ruts and Ruts DC projected - that of People Unite - is as relevant and important as ever and that their own emotional intelligence continues to be the driving force behind their entire ethos.
Ruffy is obviously best known for his beautifully rhythmic and melodic drumming with The Ruts and Ruts DC - and, in fact they are just about to release their 3rd acoustic album and go out on tour to support this - but he's also worked with a vast array of legendary musicians and bands ā Sinead OāConnor, Prefab Sprout, Aztec Camera, Kirsty MacColl, Adam Ant, Pete Townshend, Mica Parisā¦I should probably stop here otherwise weāll be here all day??!!
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I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
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Iām finding it harder and harder to know where to even start talking about the worldās malaise, but I just want to touch on one area of our lives that has got markedly worse over the years and thatās accountability. Itās the one thing that has actually trickled down ā and not in a good way - from the elite into our everyday lives so much so that I often feel that the basic covenants or foundations by which we live our lives are being decimated and weāre heading towards some form of Purge-like Reality TV that doesnāt last 12 hours, it becomes the norm. You might think thatās being kind of melodramatic, that weāre better than that, but when I think about the human cost of what happens next when politicians, corporations and industries are allowed to bypass fundamental accountabilities and that starts to creep into personal life accountability, Iām not so sure that it is melodramatic.
The base feeling I have with all of this is disappointment. Thatās the base level and it soon elevates to anger and fear. Iām very conscious of how this all plays on my own mindset and how I have to keep that anger and fear in check.
Iām really interested in the link between accountability and disappointment. Do we have an aversion to accountability because we perceive there is too large a threat to us from not meeting those levels of accountability? And what are some of those threats - conflict, blame, judgement, disappointment?
Magdalena Stephens has written a brilliantly ferocious, raging EP with her band Cathari in which there is a lot of focus on her own disappointment. At life, at ex-friends and perhaps at herself. Itās called It Will Hurt the Entire Time You Are Alive and this record will make a difference to your life.
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I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
A few years ago I was going through some stuff with my mum and dad - they were getting towards the end of their lives ā and as the only child I was finding it really tough to make the choices I had to make. And having to make these choices didnāt stop.
I wrote a piece about friendships and family relationships, ostensibly about my uncle ā my dadās brother ā and how I felt his presence before Iād seen him walk into the room after having not seen him for many years. I just felt that things were going to be OK, such was his gravitas. His death was a huge loss, but his funeral reconnected me to family members that Iād drifted away from.
Anyway, this got me thinking about my whole relationship with relationships and friendships, how I sometimes let them go too easily, how reconnecting made me feel and then trying to trace all of this back to some formative influences or events to give myself some understanding and, I suppose, peaceā¦.kinda like DIY therapy that would probably make Laurel and Hardy look professional ā and Iām really hoping that Iām not the only one to remember Laurel and Hardy!
I feel that human relationships are the one thing thatās going to act as the glue to keep us together in such a damaged, splintered and unhinged world and having the emotional intelligence to look inwardly and outwardly about why relationships work, why they donāt, why they should and shouldnāt is such a super power. Jemima Coulter and Ed Tullett have written their third LP as Hailaker called Serenity Now which is largely (or not so largely if I havenāt done my homework properly!) about their own experiences of disconnecting and reconnecting ā itās such a powerful and beautiful piece of work from beginning to end.https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
- doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste -
There have been plenty of times when my shyness and tenuous self belief has turned up like the proverbial bad smell. Like the naughty people in my ear telling me why I shouldnāt do something. They almost stopped me from taking the plunge and doing this podcast ā but I did need more than a push. Iām managing it far better than I used to, but still there a few situations that I get into that Iād rather not have got into. A few weeks ago, I had a complete chance encounter where I got over myself and ended up having the best conversation with a musician and artist whose work Iād admired for a long time.
I drive myself nuts sometimes.
Anyway, Nick Llobet has lived with shyness, imposter syndrome all the while having a prodigious talent for songwriting - their songs are daring and unpredictable, forceful yet tender, confident yet coy and itās this enchanting kaleidoscope that makes them so compelling.
Andā¦.thank fuck for those chance encounters and bravery ā you might know that they had a very special one themself with Patti Smith that has helped to bring their band, youbet, to the disciples!https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
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Naƫl is an artist who has made me realise that I need to up my game as far as awareness of new music is concerned. He has the most incredible voice that brings in influences from soul, gospel, RnB, hip hop, jazz. He has been on tour with the amazing Jeanne Added. A couple of weeks ago, he released a really beautiful track called Roses and is going to release his debut solo EP called Last Words on the 7th June.
He has also lived with a loss of hearing. Total silence in one ear and noise in more or less distant snatches for the other ear, meant that he learned to lip read at a very young age. Singing has helped him immensely to relax and find some peace.
For me, the human ability to continually adapt to circumstances that we find ourselves in by design or by chance is tremendously inspiring.
Iād strongly argue that adaptability is one of the crucial skills that we all need these days.
Thanks to Naƫl for this wonderful conversation and for tackling some difficult subjects with intention and respect.https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
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Iām gonna start with a quote that I remember coming across about 7 years ago now when I started thinking about what we needed as human beings to navigate through what is best described as a 100 year life ā and credit to Dr Lynda Gratton for that term ā or multi stage life - which is one that breaks away from that model of my parents generation ā education-work-retirement - to something much more multi-hyphenate and less linear and one where longevity and technology play a much more prevalent role.
I was also having a lot of thoughts about changes in my life at that time, which made me veer from excitement and possibility, through to panic and huge identity shifts.
The quote might be familiar to you....'There is nothing like returning to a place that remains unchanged to find the ways in which you yourself have changed.ā
This was Nelson Mandela
Iām saying this as Hua Li åå by and large wrote the songs for her second album in 2020ā¦a year which, instead of being a year in which she built on her success and achievements, turned out to be a period of extreme turmoil, grief and disconnection. Fast forward to 2024 and those songs have ā after four years - appeared on that second album, called Ripe Fruit Falls But Not In Your Mouth, a wonderfully shapeshifting, almost chameleon-esque storybook - itās wild how the music can veer inter-track from her fabulously sparse, old school rapping style to a more RnB vocal style, each track really showcases her vocal versatility. Each song feels like a journey in itself ā an urban journey if that makes sense.
Dig in!https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com
I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently.
Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJās and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives.
- brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindsetā¢
- swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald
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