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As podcasting continues to see a mix of large investments and ad spend, it also continues to see layoffs across the industry. Many point to some of these large investments as being a cause, with money being spent on large networks and celebrity podcasts.
Is this a sign that the industry needs to take a different approach, with perhaps more indie creator-led networks, or is it an unfortunate realism of an industry growing beyond its small beginnings?
Join regular co-host Danny Brown and guest co-host Frank Racioppi as they discuss this interesting topic.
Guest co-host this episode: Frank Racioppi
After 38 years as a speechwriter and editor for a Fortune 50 company, Frank retired and indulged his love of podcasting, starting and managing a successful podcast review online publication -- Ear Worthy. He started it in 2017 and has enjoyed connecting with indie podcasters and anyone who supports podcasting. Frank and his brother Paul had a podcast four years ago called False Facts, but it was difficult to keep a regular recording schedule. He's loved writing his entire life and wrote for print magazines in the 80s from New Jersey Monthly, The Pet Dealer, American Health, The Sewing Circle, etc. He's also published five novels and four non-fiction books in the last four years. The novels range from a romance about two people bonding over the love of reading called For The Love Of Books to Least Best Employee, a novel about surviving as middle management in Corporate America. His most popular nonfiction book was called The COVID Hotel.
Frank's Website
@podcastreports on X
@earworthy141 on Instagram
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Broadway Podcast Network - The Art of Kindness with Robert PeterpaulEvery Single Sci-Fi Film Ever | Science Fiction Movie PodcastGastropod - Food with a Side of Science & HistoryFilmspotting Movie PodcastTop US Podcast Publishers & Networks - PodtracMercury hits 2 million delivered adsBobbi Althoff joins Studio71's podcast network with The Really Good PodcastHow celebrity podcasts are influencing a new era of tabloid mediaCelebrity Podcasts Roundtable: Challenges and Opportunities | Podcast MovementThese Brands SHOULD Sponsor These Independent PodcastsThe Marketing Swarm Around Indie PodcastersIndependent Podcasting Needs More Networks Like MercuryIn & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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The Podcasting 2.0 initiative has been around since 2020, and is a way for the traditional RSS feed to be more interactive both for podcasters and listeners. This means offering features like transcripts, chapters, credits for talent on podcasters, funding your favourite shows, and more.
It's also meant to keep the RSS system open and "protect" it from the walled garden approach of Spotify, YouTube, and - to a lesser degree - Apple Podcasts.
Bit despite being the brainchild of the podcast OG Adam Curry, and lots of vocal support from certain parts of the industry, it seems that Podcasting 2.0 is still struggling to gain a real foothold. So why hasn't Podcasting 2.0 taken off, and has the boat sailed for this initiative?
Join regular hosts Mark and Danny, with guest co-host Claire Waite Brown, as they dive into this much-vaunted but sometimes equally-maligned topic.
This week's guest co-host: Claire Waite Brown
Indie podcaster - Creativity Found, 2020 to present; Podcasting 2.0 in Practice Jan 2025 to presentCreativity Found podcast inspired me to build a directory of creative activities for adults, all taught by independent small business owners who are members of the Creativity Found Collective.Became interested in 2.0 through listening to podcasts about podcasting and meeting proponents at podcast live events.Friends with many indie podcasters who feel they 'should' know what 2.0 is, but not sure where to start, or if they should bother!Teach a dance fitness class, edit books, member of a parents' street dance crew!!
Claire's Facebook group
Claire's Facebook page
@podcasting2.0inpractice on Instagram
Claire on YouTube
Claire's Website
Links to interesting things from this episode
MIC's (virtual/in-person) Podcast Club for global podcastersIs Podcasting 2.0 Pointless? - In & Around PodcastingThe Podfather launches a new, open podcast directoryBest Host for Podcasting 2.0 - Find Out How! | CaptivatePodcast Index Podcasting 2.0 Statistics, visualizedPodcasting 2.0 V4V Stats UptakePodcasting 2.0 Namespace AdoptionApps | Podcastindex.orgPodcasting 2.0 - Making podcasts better for everyone!In & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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The episode provides an insightful recap of the recent PodFest event, a significant gathering in the podcasting industry, characterized by its inclusive atmosphere and focus on community building. Mr. Mark and co-host Chris delve into the origins of PodFest, tracing its inception back to grassroots meetups aimed at supporting podcasters in their journey. Through their dialogue, they reveal how PodFest has grown organically, driven by the collective needs of its attendees, resulting in a unique event that is both educational and supportive. Chris shares anecdotes from the event, illustrating the relationships that have formed over the years and the nurturing environment that PodFest fosters.
The discussion transitions to the evolving landscape of podcasting, with both hosts reflecting on the challenges and opportunities faced by indie creators. They emphasize the significance of networking and collaboration in the industry, noting how PodFest serves as a hub for podcasters of all levels to connect and share experiences. The hosts highlight specific sessions and interactions from PodFest, showcasing the diverse range of content and learning opportunities available to attendees. They convey a sense of optimism about the future of podcasting, underlining the role of events like PodFest in shaping the industry and supporting the next generation of creators.
In concluding remarks, Mark and Chris reiterate their commitment to fostering a spirit of inclusivity and support within the podcasting community. They invite listeners to engage with PodFest and consider attending future events, emphasizing the value of being part of a community that celebrates creativity and collaboration in podcasting. The episode serves as a compelling testament to the power of community in the podcasting realm, encouraging listeners to take part in this vibrant ecosystem.
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2024 saw Spotify make a big push for video on their platform, while it also seemed anywhere you turned online was someone telling podcasters they need to do video to stay relevant.
So, is 2025 the year we all need to get on board with video podcasting, or does audio-first podcasting still have merits? Join your regular hosts Mark Asquith and Danny Brown, as well as guest co-host John McDermott, as they look to answer the question on everyone's lips: what does the push for video mean for podcasting and podcasters?
Our guest co-host this week: John McDermott
Co-Founder of Caloroga Shark Media, a podcast company focused on short-form pods. Previously EVP programming for Cadence 13. Before that 10 years at SiriusXM (VP Comedy & Entertainment). Before THAT a decade at WOR New York doing talk radio I am the host of the podcasts 5 Good News Stories and Daily Comedy News. Substack where I pontificate is John McDermott's Media Thoughts (mcdpod.substack.com) and people are encouraged to be my LinkedIn friend.
John's Website
@mcdradio on X
Links to interesting things from this episode
Dave & Dave Unchained Van Halen podcast Podcast – Apple PodcastsPodcast Predictions, Trends & Tips for 2025Will Video Kill the Audio Star in 2025?Podcasting's unique selling proposition is not video | James Cridland - radio futurologistIn & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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Join Mark and Danny in this bonus episode, as they reflect on the past year of In & Around Podcasting, share some important advice about frequency of publishing, and what's coming up in 2025.
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Links to interesting things from this episode
Pod Chat, with Danny BrownThe Podcast Accelerator by Mark AsquithTaking a break for a month? : r/podcastingPodcast Discovery Stats: How Folks Find Pods, & Why They ListenIn & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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There are many valuations of the podcast industry, depending on what report you read.
Polaris valued the global worth at $13.7B in 2021, expected to grow an average of 31.5% CAGR (compound annual growth rate) through to 2030 (seems supremely high)Fortune Business Insights show is as $2.2B in 2022, projected to grow to $17.59B in 2030, a CAGR of 29.8%Meanwhile, the IAB shares US ad revenue as $1.8B in 2022, rising to $1.9 in 2023 (which seems closer to Fortune Business Insights and their global ranking). So you can see why there's confusion.
Join Mark and Danny, and this week's guest co-host Rob Greenlee, as they break this all down in the usual In & Around Podcasting way.
Our guest co-host this week: Rob Greenlee
Rob Greenlee, a 2017 Podcast Hall of Fame inductee and podcasting pioneer, has spent over 24 years shaping the online media industry. As founder of Spoken Life Media - Adore Podcast Network and Creator Community, and Multi-Camera Video Production. He is also host of Podcast Tips with Rob Greenlee and Trust Factor Shows, he empowers creators with practical insights and innovative strategies. Rob’s background includes leadership roles at Microsoft, PodcastOne, Spreaker, and Libsyn, where he drove content development, distribution, and partnerships. He also co-hosts the 12-year running New Media Show with Todd Cochrane, providing weekly industry updates. As Chairperson of the Podcast Hall of Fame, Rob continues to champion the podcasting community worldwide through speaking and mentorship.
Rob's Website
Rob on YouTube
Rob's Facebook page
@robwgreenlee on Instagram
@robgreenlee on X
Links to interesting things from this episode
Arielle NissenblattPodcast Hall of FamePODFEST EXPO | Where Your Voice MattersPodcast Industry Statistics 2024 – Global Market Size and Growth | Comprehensive podcast industry statistics for 2024. Collaborative wiki covers global market size, growth trends, platform market share, and advertising revenue estimates.Podcasting Market Size, Share, Revenue | Fortune Business InsightsPolaris Podcasting Market Size Global Report, 2022 - 2030IAB US Podcast Advertising Revenue Study FY2023 May 2024.pdfJustin Jackson on X: "I keep seeing two numbers for the podcast industry: "Podcasting is a $2 billion a year industry." "The podcast industry is worth $20 billion." Can anyone tell me where these numbers come from and how they're calculated? (They're often quoted but never cited)" / XIn & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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As Artificial Intelligence continues to be ever more present in podcasting, discussions and conversations have appeared online at an equal rate on whether this is a good or bad thing for the podcasting industry.
Does it make life easier when it comes to creating content, or does it run the risk of making podcasting redundant through an increased lack of originality?
Join Mark, Danny, and guest co-host Liam Heffernan as they dissect the article and review each viewpoint.
Our guest co-host this week: Liam Heffernan
@thisistheheff on X
Links to interesting things from this episode
Independent Podcast AwardsEm @Verbal Diorama: A Film History Podcast (@VerbalDiorama) / XVerbal DioramaScarlett Johansson’s OpenAI clash is just the start of legal wrangles over artificial intelligence | Artificial intelligence (AI) | The GuardianApollo Pods | Best Podcast App for Fiction LoversHow Can Podcast Discoverability Be Improved: The Ultimate Podcast Puzzle - Ear WorthyDoes AI Need Regulation in Podcasting? - In & Around PodcastingIn & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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It used to be that podcast downloads were the main data point podcasters would use to track their growth. The thinking was, get X amount of downloads per month and sponsors will jump at you with wallets full of cash. While that may have been the way back in the day, today's success metrics looks a lot different when it comes to podcast success.
In this special live recording of In & Around Podcasting from PodSummit YYC 2024 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, Danny is joined by Kattie Laur and Tim Truax to talk about how you can take advantage of them, and reframe your thinking and discussion around monetization and sponsorship.
Takeaways:
The podcasting industry is evolving, and metrics should extend beyond just downloads. Engaged listeners are more valuable than sheer download numbers when seeking sponsorships. Indie podcasters should focus on local sponsorships to create meaningful monetization opportunities. Understanding your audience's engagement can help shape your content and sponsorship strategies. Value for value models allow listeners to support creators without traditional sponsorships. Experimenting with different ad formats can improve listener retention and engagement rates.Companies mentioned in this episode:
Bumper Captivate Apple Spotify Acast Douglas AG1 Buy Me a Coffee North Bay Echo CanadalandOur guest co-hosts this week:
Kattie Laur
Kattie Laur is an award-winning, freelance podcast producer and writer based in Brantford, Ontario. She has a life-long love of public radio, and has been clinging to the podcasting space since 2013.As both a professional and independent podcast creator, Kattie’s insights have her keenly focused on making the Canadian podcasting ecosystem sustainable, equitable and world-renowned.Kattie writes the biweekly newsletter for the Canadian podcasting ecosystem, Pod the North. Pod the North’s regular readers include many media excutives from the likes of CBC Podcasts, Spotify and Apple Podcasts.She is currently also working on her debut podcast, Canardian, in association with her newsletter coming Spring 2024.
Kattie's Website
@podthenorth on Instagram
@PodKatt on X
Kattie on YouTube
Links to interesting things from this episode
PodSummit: Canada's Podcast EventFunding Opportunities - ISO-BEASCOOP: A look at the Canadian podcast sponsorship economy.Are hyperlocal podcast networks replacing local media?In & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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In a recent article on Hollywood Reporter, top podcasters like Rachel Maddow, Bill Simmons, Josh Lindgren and more shared their take on the biggest issues facing podcasting. These included visibility, podcast apps, lower advertising, and more.
Join Danny and guest co-host Dan LeFebvre as they dissect the article and review each viewpoint.
Our guest co-host this week: Dan LeFebvre
Host of Based on a True Story, the podcast that compares Hollywood with history.
Dan's Website
@danlefeb on X
Dan on YouTube
Dan's Facebook page
Dan's Facebook group
@basedonatruestorypodcast on Instagram
Links to interesting things from this episode
Start Your Podcast Today - Worry Free - School of Podcasting - Learn "How To Podcast" with Podcast Coach Dave JacksonGoodpods 🎧 | Discover, Play & Share Your Favorite PodcastsApollo Pods | Best Podcast App for Fiction LoversWondery acquires New Heights with Jason and Travis KelceWhat The Hollywood Reporter Got Right & Wrong In Its Latest Podcast StoryPodcasting's Biggest Challenges? Maddow, Simmons, Charlamagne Weigh InIn & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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Introducing: Life's 2nd Act
Life's 2nd Act: a podcast journey into finding direction and purpose. This is the podcast that delves into the transformative phase of mid/later life, exploring its challenges, new directions and uncertainties that come with it. We do that through talking to people who have a story to tell and insight to share, or a snippet of something special. Sharing stories, exploring dilemmas and seeking solutions...
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Apple Podcasts is now available on the web, opening up the Android market and allowing users to listen on Windows. This is a significant milestone for podcasting as it provides more options for listeners and creators. The web player supports syncing across devices and allows for purchasing subscriptions to creators. However, there are potential risks with unethical marketing techniques and spoofing of download referrals. Overall, this move by Apple is a positive step forward for the industry.
Takeaways
Apple Podcasts is now accessible on the web, expanding its reach to Android and Windows users.The web player supports syncing across devices and allows for purchasing subscriptions to creators.This move by Apple is a positive step forward for the podcasting industry, providing more options for listeners and creators.In & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
If you enjoy the show, we'd love for you to leave us a rating or review on your favourite podcast app! You can also drop us a tip at https://www.inandaroundpodcasting.com/support, too!
If you're an independent creator who would like to co-host with us, please let us know via Twitter and we'll get you booked!
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Currently, if a podcaster wants to get the full picture of their show's growth, they need to look at multiple analytics reports: their hosting company, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and now YouTube. Then they need to correlate how all this data is presented, since it can be very different, depending on IAB Certification, downloads, listens, and more. And that's just the podcaster - then you have media and ad buyer data, too.
So how do we bring all this convoluted data together, and where do podcast analytics need to improve to give that fuller picture? Join your host Danny Brown and guest co-host Dan Misener as they dive in to podcasting's analytics problem.
Our guest co-host this week:
Dan Misener
Dan Misener is co-founder of Bumper, a podcast growth agency.Prior to co-founding Bumper, Dan served as Director of Audience Development at Pacific Content.Prior to that, he spent a decade working in public radio at the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC), both on-air and behind-the-scenes. He was involved in the CBC's earliest podcasting efforts, and served as producer on many national and local news and current affairs programs.Dan has taught podcasting and audio storytelling at the Dalla Lana School of Public Health and Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy at the University of Toronto, the RTA School of Media at Toronto Metropolitan University, and through the Podcast Career Accelerator program at the Hot Docs Podcast Festival.Dan is host and producer of the independent live event and podcast series Grownups Read Things They Wrote as Kids, which has won several industry awards and been downloaded more than 10 million times.
Dan's Website
Links to interesting things from this episode
TrueFans | Podcasting That PaysOP3: The Open Podcast Prefix ProjectMobile Game Ads Are Boosting Podcast Follower Counts - BloombergPodcast Standards Project | Advocating for open podcastingThe State of Podcast Agencies 2024Does Podcasting Still Need the IAB? - In & Around PodcastingIs the CPM Model in Podcasting Really Unsustainable? - In & Around PodcastingIn & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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Welcome to this bonus episode of In & Around Podcasting. This week, Mark and Danny take a look at this year's Podcast Movement, taking place in Washington, D.C. between August 19 and 22.
They share tips for first time attendees, how to plan your schedule effectively, some things you shouldn't forget, and loads more useful tips.
Links to interesting things from this episode
Podcast Movement 2024 | Podcast Conference | August in Washington, D.C.In & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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According to the most recent stats by the Podcast Index, there are 315,000 active podcasts (based on publishing at least one episode in the last 30 days), with 446,000 in the last 90 days.
Given there are 4.2 million podcasts listed in the index, are the seemingly low numbers (around 10% of all podcasts actively publishing) a cause for concern, or an opportunity for podcasters in the long term?
Join your host Danny Brown, and guest co-hosts Bryan Entzminger and Al Grego, as they dive into the data and offer their take.
Our guest co-hosts this week:
Al Grego
Producer & Host of 'Yes, We Are Open', 'Just Good Business', and 'The Produce Stand podcasts.
Al's Website
Al's Facebook group
Al's Facebook page
@pftw on Instagram
@pftw on X
Al on YouTube
Bryan Entzminger
Bryan Entzminger is a podcaster and editor. He loves helping other podcasters and editors through the unofficial Hindenburg users group on Facebook and cohosts the Podcast Editors Mastermind and the Podcast Gauntlet. You can find him at TopTierAudio.com
Bryan's Website
Bryan's Facebook group
Bryan's Facebook page
@toptieraudio on Instagram
@toptieraudio on X
Links to interesting things from this episode
Podcast Editor AcademySteve StewartSorry About The MurderPod the North | Kattie LaurToronto MikePodcastindex.org Podcast StatsHow many active podcasts are there?In & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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In episode 14, we discussed whether the V4V - Value4Value - model was dead, with a focus on streaming sats (Satoshis) since this is primarily what many podcasters associate V4V with.
The episode stirred up quite the conversation online, with some interesting takes on the episode and points raised. So this episode sees Mark chat with David Medus on how he uses V4V beyond sats and the overall philosophy behind it.
Links to interesting things from this episode
Andy Lehman on X and V4V is not just streaming satsIs Value For Value's Future in Trouble?In & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Introducing: Life's 2nd Act
Life's 2nd Act: a podcast journey into finding direction and purpose. This is the podcast that delves into the transformative phase of mid/later life, exploring its challenges, new directions and uncertainties that come with it. We do that through talking to people who have a story to tell and insight to share, or a snippet of something special. Sharing stories, exploring dilemmas and seeking solutions together.
LIfe's 2nd Act Trailer
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Welcome to a special bonus episode of In & Around Podcasting. This week, Mark and Danny are joined by guest co-host Garry Aylott, Head of Design at Captivate, to talk about the new Captivate 2.5 dashboard release.
This includes designing for both indie podcasters and large media production companies, as well as taking podcast networks up a notch for all Captivate podcasters. Sit back for an educational walk-though of the SaaS decision-making process.
Links to interesting things from this episode
Captivate 2.5 - Unlimited Networks & a Sleek New LookDashboard 2.5 Release Preview - YouTubeIn & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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It was recently announced that Alby, one of the most popular streaming sats platforms for podcasters when using Value4Value (V4V), is no longer offering new accounts to people in the US.
Does this news mean a major roadblock to growth and adoption of V4V, or just part of a new medium's growing pains? And what alternatives do podcasters have?
Join Mark and Danny and guest co-host Mathew Passy as they share their thoughts on where we are and what the future holds for the V4V approach to creator support.
Our guest co-host this week is Mathew Passy
Long time podcast producer and consultant, now trying to solve as many other problems as I can for podcasters via Custom Podcast Solutions!
Mathew's Website
Mathew's Facebook page
@mathewpassy on Instagram
@mathewpassy on X
Mathew on YouTube
Links to interesting things from this episode
Kevin Lowe - Grit, Grace, & InspirationTrailergram – Promote Your Podcast Trailer to Targeted Potential ListenersAlby HubValue 4 Value Podcasts | Podcastindex.orgV4V Stats from the Podcast IndexAlby no longer offering new accounts to people based in the USIn & Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.
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In the June 3 edition of industry publication Podnews, editor James Cridland reported on the rumour of "a large podcast hosting company having an all-hands meeting with the news that they'd found a buyer for the company."
There's also industry rumours of at least three hosting companies either looking for buyers or open to buyer approaches. We've seen podcast hosting companies either close or be acquired before: Spotify bought Anchor and Megaphone, and Global acquired Captivate, as some examples.
So with the rumour mill around more acquisitions currently red-hot, does this mean podcast hosting is in a boom & bust period? Or is it just a sign of a medium continuing to mature and take advantage of good opportunities?
Join Danny and guest co-host Eric Silver, as they discuss what this means for hosting in general, and what the lay of the land might look like in 12 months time.
Our guest co-host this week is Eric Silver
Eric Silver is an award-winning podcast producer, game designer, and teacher based in the great state of New York. He's the Head of Development and co-founder of Multitude, an independent podcast collective and production studio in Brooklyn. He’s produced 11 podcasts that have racked up tens of millions of downloads, and developed many more, characterized by strong, original structures and thriving communities. He widely known as the Best Dungeon Master in Podcasting, running the actual play TTRPG show Join the Party for 7 years, and is a professor at Stony Brook University's Podcast Incubator
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At the end of March this year, industry publication Podnews published its annual Podnews Report Card. This asks podcasters to complete a scorecard on podcast platforms, and where they're doing well, and where they're doing not so well.
Across the board, all main platforms - Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and Amazon Music - had a lower score than last year when it came to helping listeners discover and follow a podcast.
The same happened when asked how easy it was to list a new podcast, with all main platforms suffering a drop in the previous year's score.
Join your usual hosts Mark Asquith and Danny Brown, with special guest co-host Genevieve Hassan, as they break down this report, and what the bigger podcast platforms need to do to when it comes to helping podcasters start and grow a podcast.
Our guest co-host this week is Genevieve Hassan
Genevieve is a former BBC News senior entertainment journalist who's interviewed hundreds of celebrities for more than a decade - including A-listers such as Chris Pratt, Hugh Jackman, Anne Hathaway, Keanu Reeves, Mila Kunis, Justin Timberlake and Kristen Wiig.She also once interviewed comic book legend Stan Lee in a lift...She now hosts and produces celebrity interview podcast Celebrity Catch Up: Life After That Thing I Did - which won Podcast of the Year at the 2023 Independent Podcast Awards.
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Spotify recently announced they're no longer offering the option to easily record and edit within the platforms's hosting dashboard, a popular feature that was part of podcast host Anchor, before it was rebranded as Spotify for Podcasters.
Online communities on Reddit and Facebook are full of upset podcasters looking for alternatives, since many podcasters used the "all-in-one" recorder/editor/publisher.
So, should podcast hosting platforms continue down the tech stack path, or is this a sign that perhaps a "one size fits all" isn't a viable strategy in the long run? Join your regular hosts Mark and Danny, with guest co-host Neal Veglio, as they discuss what hosting looks like in 2024 and beyond.
Neal Veglio Founder of Podknows Podcasting, collaborating with Captivate to help brands and individuals to get the best possible return from branded podcasting. Neal's Website @realnealveglio on X Neal on YouTube
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