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No, really it does.
In this episode we discuss a series of articles recommended by friend-of-the-show Darren Hemmings in this substack post.
As the title suggests, we consider the ethics of AI music from two separate angles.
And finally we look at the increasing dominance of standup comedy in the ecosystem of live events.
I will never stand being accused of cynical ragebait!
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00:00 Intro
03:58 Changes in the business of social media
08:08 dBridge Substack post
16:35 Is algorithmic influence any different to human influence?
19:44 Why musicians hate the press
24:52 Dance music deserves to be destroyed by AI
35:03 The success of standup comedy
41:37 Transgressive comedy vs music
51:48 Conclusions
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What does the new age of oligarchy mean for the future of art and the cultural sector?
And what can we learn from previous era of extreme inequality?
Weighty question on this episode of the podcast...
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00:00 Intro
02:30 Elon, Tesla, and SpaceX
07:23 The Gilded Age
10:34 Andrew Carnegie
27:27 Busting the Trusts
31:24 Help needed now
36:36 How left wing are you?
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Corporate money is the wellspring of great art... discuss!
Also, the demise of Nina, Juno Download, and eventually Subvert.
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00:00 Intro
03:18 Money and art
11:04 Downloads are dead
23.33 Conclusions
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Carl Craig is a producer, DJ, and label owner from Detroit.
A feature-length documentary, Desire: The Carl Craig Story, is available to stream now.
Listen to the reissue of 'Meditations' LP.
We discuss the history of Detroit music, the development of techno, the influence of other areas of popular culture on dance music, and the breadth of his musical experiences from playing guitar in bands as a teenager to being a current artist-in-residence at Michigan State University.
This is a conversation with a true legend who does not disappoint!
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00:00 Intro
02:00 The documentary
07:15 Judging artists' work
14:08 Jungle and the UK rave scene
20:29 Breakthrough and early material
25:20 Popular culture and dance music
31:55 Collaboration and solo work
35:48 Bring back guitars
41:55 The Electrifying Mojo
54:46 Techno and Motown
01:01:58 Frankfurt vs Berlin
01:08:50 Black music and diversity
01:19:47 Artist in residence at MSUFCU
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The bulk of this episode is a deep dive on the Live Nation / Ticketmaster situation.
We look at the system of practices that has developed since the merger in 2010, the recent ruling, and the possible future arrangements in a world where the ruling (currently subject to appeal) is put into practice.
But separately, we also discuss why the Chaotic Good marketing approach is actually a good thing for music...!
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00:00 Support the podcast
03:00 Is Chaotic Good actually good?
07:28 Ticketing
31:41 Closing
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This week on Music Not Diving we decouple from the Youtube feed and get into the ongoing debate around AI. Sceptics like Ed Zitron have come to prominence with their doubts about the viability of business models of the big AI firms, but in music Suno is busily destroying artistry and the effect of the general LLMs has upended other bits of the industry too.
So what does this all mean?
And we also learn about the ceiling of the Rolls Royce Phantom and what that might mean for vintage mix consoles.
Bob Lefsetz piece on the Indie Alliance: lefsetz.com/wordpress/2026/03/31/the-indie-alliance/
Shawn's referenced piece: firstfloor.substack.com/p/the-majors-are-ushering-in-an-era
Ted Gioia referenced piece: www.honest-broker.com/p/four-steps-to-hell
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00:00 Intro
02:00 Future of the pod
06:50 The Indie Alliance
12:30 Major labels and AI
15:00 AI scepticism
20:17 New Suno model
29:20 Rolls Royce and music
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What does the music industry have in common with Swiss watches? Quite a lot, as we discover on this solo episode of the podcast...
The latest Morgan Stanley Swiss watch industry report can be viewed here.
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00:00 Intro
05:52 The current landscape
10:08 Volume vs luxury
14.07 The key players
19.11 How the successful acts do it
24.32 Can listeners pick up the slack?
27.10 The real problem
30.20 Conclusions
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Music Not Diving touched down in Bengaluru, aka Bangalore, for the opening night of DJ El Sid's Ends & Means party, and also to record podcasts at the Bangalore International Centre with two of the most important people in the contemporary techno scene in India. This is part II...
Sanil Sudan, aka FILM, is one of the best electronic producers to come out of India. Based in New Delhi, he has been involved in all aspects of the scene over the past decade and more: DJing, promoting parties, running one of India’s first booking agencies (UnMute), as well as making beats as FILM and other aliases including the techno-focused Tyrell Dub Corp. '
We discuss his production process, differing approaches to studio techniques including classic synths and sampling, hidden resources to be found on Youtube, the challenges facing Indian producers, the development of a distinctive Indian sound, as well as his time spent in Berlin as part of the Border Movement Residency (BMR) program.
This is a great conversation with a big talent operating in a difficult environment. Get involved!
Check out El Sid mixes on Soundcloud.
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00:00 Intro
03:10 FILM
06:11 From pro-gamer to promoter
08:30 The "No more parties in Delhi" experiment
11:45 Learning Music Theory mid-Career
15:45 AI Slop and the value of human emotion
17:54 The cultural necessity of sampling
22:00 Studio talk
27:00 The Berlin border movement residency
32:30 Post-COVID clubbing & Spotify fatigue
37:30 The corporatisation of Boiler Room
41:45 Forging an authentic Indian sound
49:10 The global hustle for Indian DJs
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Music Not Diving touched down in Bengaluru, aka Bangalore, for the opening night of DJ El Sid's Ends & Means party, and also to record podcasts at the Bangalore International Centre with two of the most important people in the contemporary techno scene in India.
Kohra is a key figure in the modern iteration of techno in India. His label, Qilla Records, has been one of the most important outposts for Indian producers since 2011. And as a DJ, he has established himself as a similarly important voice across clubs and festivals both in India and on the global circuit. He's also a very interesting guy with a lot to say on the state of the scene right now, and also the history.
We discuss the scene in India compared to Europe and the US, the development of techno culture in India, the advance of western dance music brands into Asia, today's challenges in running labels, and his history in different areas of music.
This conversation is a great insight into the workings of the scene in India... get involved!
Part II will air next week.
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00:00 Intro
02:45 Kohra
07:30 Local scenes
14:00 Western club brands in India
21:30 Politics and boycott culture
27:50 Kohra's journey into music
33:35 Production
42:08 Spending time in Melbourne
44:40 Jalebee Cartel
47:10 Running Qilla Records
53:30 Future of the scene in India
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Frank Wiedemann is one half of legendary German house duo Âme (he does the live shows and can probably be described as the lead producer). He's also a key figure in the Innervisions label, the Dixon/Âme axis, and also a member of other groups include Howling.
We discuss the new wave of electronic music nightlife in Berlin, the responsibilities of established acts to the wider scene, his processes in making music, and performance both as Âme and also in improvisational settings such as previous pod guest Sebastian Mullaert's Circle Of Live.
This is a good one, get involved!
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00:00 Intro
03:50 Berlin nightlife isn't dead
07:56 Events vs. clubbing
11:01 Should bigger artists give back?
14:18 The paradox of playing live
22:22 The new Ame album
31:30 Spotify is social media
38:14 From Jazz clubs to Robert Johnson
49:00 Innervisions at the Royal Albert Hall
55:49 The art of the 8-hour jam
01:04:52 Teaching and retreats
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Slipmatt is one of the most important DJs in the history of dance music. From his first major gig at Raindance in 1989, he came to be known as the Godfather Of Hardcore, becoming synonymous with the genre that typified the UK rave sound in the early 90s. His 'SL2' project, with DJ Lime, yield two top-ten hits including the genre-defining 'On A Ragga Tip' that reached number 2 in the UK singes chart in May 1992.
He was also instrumental in emergence Jungle from the Hardcore scene, and produced classics including 'Hear Me' which typify the linearity between the two genres.
We discuss the pre-acid house period, the game-changing nature of the rave explosion both in music and society, and we get into his personal journey from bedroom producer to Top Of The Pops.
This is a great conversation with a true legend of UK dance music, get involved!
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00:00 Intro
02:00 Episode start
04:55 What “Old School” really means
06:25 The split between Hardcore & Jungle
11:30 Bridging the divide
13:10 Bedroom producer beginnings
17:20 The lost art of studio mentorship
18:40 DJ Culture & skill obsession
24:15 First raves & Acid House reality
26:15 Birth of Raindance
27:40 Illegal → Legal Raves
29:10 Becoming a National DJ
30:40 Independence and management
32:10 The end of Illegal raving
33:10 Rave culture as a social & political movement
35:30 Media & moral panic
37:30 Policing, laws & the Criminal Justice Act Era
41:30 Legacy of early Rave culture
43:30 Personal reflections & looking back
47:00 Clearing samples
50:24 Top of the Pops and meeting Kylie
56:27 The Prodigy
59:31 Rage club and Jungle
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Recondite is one of our favourite guests and here we welcome him for his third appearance on the podcast.
We discuss his recent performances at arguably the world's hottest music venue - the Sphere in Las Vegas, and also the Pyramids of Giza in Egypt. And we get the inside story on what's going on in melodic techno, an area of dance music that has attracted some of the biggest audiences while being largely ignored by the press.
The issue of dance music and popular culture as art is also discussed in detail, as well as the continuing developments in AI in music - both in ethical terms and in the practice of making music.
This is a great conversation, get involved!
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Following on from the 'End Of Recorded Music?' episode, this week we take a look at some of the surrounding issues. This is the first time I've done a solo episode speaking to camera and there are some inconsistencies which show up in the audio... check out the video version of this episode on YouTube (or if you're on Spotify then it'll be available here too).
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Sister Bliss is the musical driving force behind one of the biggest dance acts of all time - Faithless.
We discuss her early period as a DJ, linking up with Rollo and launching Cheeky Records from home, meeting the late, great Maxi Jazz and forming Faithless. And of course we get into the hits and the differing process of music making over the years.
This is a great conversation with a true legend of UK music!
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
03:00 Sister Bliss
05:10 Releasing music now vs then
07:05 Champion sound & the double-album idea
09:15 Invisible gatekeepers
10:35 Forever Free, Maxi & the meaning of freedom
12:10 Vinyl culture & record-shop life
23:30 Early musical influences
29:45 The cassette demo that changed everything
31:10 Camden studios, sushi & late nights
33:00 Meeting Maxi
36:40 DJing, dropping out & taking the leap
41:10 Cheeky Records
48:00 Making the first album
55:30 Making music now: tools, plugins & overload
01:00:40 The future of creativity
01:02:45 Memory, archives & coming full circle
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Chapters:
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
03:00 Sister Bliss
05:10 Releasing music now vs then
07:05 Champion sound & the double-album idea
09:15 Invisible gatekeepers
10:35 Forever Free, Maxi & the meaning of freedom
12:10 Vinyl culture & record-shop life
23:30 Early musical influences
29:45 The cassette demo that changed everything
31:10 Camden studios, sushi & late nights
33:00 Meeting Maxi
36:40 DJing, dropping out & taking the leap
41:10 Cheeky Records
48:00 Making the first album
55:30 Making music now: tools, plugins & overload
01:00:40 The future of creativity
01:02:45 Memory, archives & coming full circle
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Bugged Out is one of the UK's best-loved and most enduring club brands. From humble beginnings in Manchester, through Sankeys, Cream in Liverpool, fabric and The End in London, right the way through to their enormous 30th birthday at the 15k capacity Drumsheds in London, this is a promotion that has consistently done things right in terms of the music and the vibe.
Johnno Burgess is one of the co-founders, and also the former editor of the legendary Jockey Slut magazine which originally launched the night that became Bugged Out.
We discuss the history of the event with its many successes and occasional failures, the changing landscape over the last 30 years, how they booked Daft Punk for free, and we also get into the golden era of the dance press and how it looks in the current era.
This is a great conversation with a relatively unsung hero of UK dance culture. Get involved!
Grab the new Bugged Out book here
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You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
02:13 Episode start
02:50 Bugged Out at 30
04:54 Changing fashion on the floor
07:28 The golden age of dance music journalism
12:45 Influencers are the new fanzines
18:08 The birth of Jockey Slut
24:00 From magazine to club night
27:30 The Manchester club scene
30:49 Closure of clubs and pop-up spaces
36:10 Trust and curation
44:12 Nation, Cream and Liverpool
47:20 First Bugged Out Weekender
52:30 Festival curation
55:00 Moving away from Liverpool
59:05 The End - 8 defining years
01:02:00 When clubs started disappearing
01:03:30 Drumsheds, Printworks and mega-rooms
01:05:50 The role of private equity
01:13:00 Highs and lows
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The Sabres Of Paradise were formed in 1992 by Andrew Weatherall, Gary Burns, and our guest on today's episode Jagz Kooner. They burned brightly but briefly, initially disbanding in 1995, but have now reformed (without the late Weatherall) for what Jagz says will be a limited time.
We discuss the story of the Sabres, but also Jagz' wider career which covers a lot of ground as a remixer and producer. And we also get into his thoughts on today's scene, and the changes in music making he's witnessed in four decades making tunes.
This is a good one!
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You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
02:13 Episode start
02:44 Sabres reunion
08:45 Playing Sydney Opera House
11:38 From seated silence to dancing chaos
13:05 This song changed lives
15:58 Post-Sabres life
17:06 Early DJ roots
21:36 Machines over bands
25:45 A very Jagz birthday
29:24 This machine will change the world
36:02 The bootleg that changed everything
37:30 Andrew Weatherall
45:00 Touring and burnout
47:30 After the split
50:00 Producing for others
59:30 Legacy and influence
01:03:00 The meaning of the reunion
01:07:00 Honouring Andrew Weatherall
01:11:00 Looking forward
01:15:00 Advice for young producers
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This is a re-up of a podcast we released in mid-2023 which sought to set the table for what was then the coming debate on AI in music and the wider socio-economic world.
It's worth returning to because it covers the big issues that I anticipate will be covered on the podcast this coming year, and takes a look at some of the initial intuitions coming into this highly weird period of human history.
This stuff isn't going anywhere, and it poses serious questions for what the music industry is for. What are musicians doing making music in this environment? What's the purpose of music in of itself?
These are questions I have been asking myself over the last few weeks, and there are no easy answers...
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
02:30 AI in music and art
12:20 Possible developments
17:13 Ethics in art
22:21 Music's cultural decline
27:06 The capitalist bogeyman
29:35 Identity vs music
43:21 Is all this just moaning?
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A review of some of the stuff that happened in the Year of Our Lord, 2025.
Percy Digs instagram as mentioned: https://www.instagram.com/percydigs?igsh=MXM3OGJ0OW9rZDMzbA==
All other links and more info on this episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/best-of-2025-147063099
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
02:50 Track of the year
04:45 Conclusions of the year
15:20 Album of the year
18:46 Book (fiction)
22:00 Book (nonfiction)
25:14 Podcast episode
26:47 Nightclub
30:02 Forgotten Hard Rock album
33:06 Best gig
36:56 Streaming platform
40:25 Worst album of the year
41:23 Worst track of the year
42:00 Coming up in 2026
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Kazim is an artist manager whose clients include Nightmares On Wax, and also the chief creative and brand officer at RA.
We discuss the mechanics of creative campaigns for new and legacy artists, the challenge of breaking new music, and the different obstacles in the way of older acts. We also discuss the music media landscape and the role of media in today's industry.
This is a rare chance to get the inside track on artist management and big music media platforms... get involved!
Music discussed in the episode…
https://jitwam.bandcamp.com
https://anaiis.bandcamp.com
https://saultglobal.bandcamp.com
https://nightmaresonwax.bandcamp.com
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
02:13 Episode start
04:52 Artist management vs. media platforms
07:55 Death of middle class in music
11:35 Successful artists can't tour
14:39 Everyone’s a DJ Now
17:38 Can albums still take years to break through?
21:08 Great music always shines through
24:04 100,000 songs a day
27:09 Going viral is the wrong goal
30:46 Success without social media
33:14 Word of mouth over algorithms
35:30 It’s always been a slog
39:00 Maintaining a legacy of an artist
45:00 Power in the catalogue
55:00 Working for Warp Records
01:01:35 Fans vs. listeners
01:03:20 Chasing the algorithm is not the way
01:04:50 Working at RA
01:12:08 The state of Berlin
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If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.
You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.
Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.
Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist
Chapters:
00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation
02:13 Episode start
04:52 Artist management vs. media platforms
07:55 Death of middle class in music
11:35 Successful artists can't tour
14:39 Everyone’s a DJ Now
17:38 Can albums still take years to break through?
21:08 Great music always shines through
24:04 100,000 songs a day
27:09 Going viral is the wrong goal
30:46 Success without social media
33:14 Word of mouth over algorithms
35:30 It’s always been a slog
39:00 Maintaining a legacy of an artist
45:00 Power in the catalogue
55:00 Working for Warp Records
01:01:35 Fans vs. listeners
01:03:20 Chasing the algorithm is not the way
01:04:50 Working at RA
01:12:08 The state of Berlin
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