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Tarang Chawla knows firsthand the devastating impacts of menâs violence, and the ripple effects it sends through families and communities â including on other boys and men. This is what led him to set up Not One More Niki, in memory of his younger sister Nikita who was murdered by her partner in 2015. Tarang is one of Australiaâs most well-known and outspoken male advocates against gender-based violence. He talks to us about where he thinks Australian society needs to go from here in its efforts to end menâs violence against women, after a year in which a series of terrible murders brought this onto the agenda in a way not seen before.
We also discuss the position of gender equality and masculinity in the upcoming Australian federal election, including on issues such as âlaw and orderâ; coming to terms with racism and colonialism in Australia and the UK; and why understanding boysâ and menâs experiences of race and class can help us to reach out to them more meaningfully.
Tarang is an award-winning speaker, writer, advocate, and recovering lawyer. Among other things, he is a Commissioner at the Victorian Multicultural Commission, and a sessional academic at Monash University and the University of Melbourne. He also wrote, produced and hosted the first two series of the acclaimed podcast There's No Place Like Home.
Tarangâs website: https://tarangchawla.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/tarangchawlaLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tarangchawla/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tarangchawlaonlineNot One More Niki: https://www.instagram.com/notonemorenikiThereâs No Place Like Home: https://www.futurewomen.com/theresnoplacelikehome/Episode timeline
Intro and acknowledgement of countryTarangâs journey into working to end menâs violence against women (03:17-06:28)Media portrayals of men who use violence (06:28-10:49)Talking about the ripple effects of menâs violence (10:49-14:04)The obstacles of masculine expectations (14:04-16:15)Menâs experiences of child sexual abuse (16:15-21:30)Being a spokesperson on these issues as a man (21:30-27:42)BreakThe impact of recent high-profile murders of Australian women (27:53-32:17)Debates about prevention work in Australia (32:17-36:35)Masculinity in the upcoming Australian election (36:35-39:09)Discourses about being âtough on crimeâ (39:09-43:00)The pushback against equity and diversity initiatives (43:00-46:06)Racism in Australia (46:06-49:12)Understanding men and boysâ own experiences of marginalisation (49:12-54:43)Conclusion [Addressing sexism and racism simultaneously; Punitive responses to crime; Coming to the terms with British colonialism] (56:06-01:02:09)More info
âEarlier this month, it was announced that former AFL player Ben Cousins will join the Seven Networkâs commentary teamâ https://www.smh.com.au/national/ben-cousins-new-tv-job-is-offensive-to-women-20250314-p5ljni.htmlâLocking up young... -
The backlash against gender equality, or what its advocates describe with terms such as 'gender ideology' and 'wokeism', is reaching an ever-rising crescendo in Europe and countries across the globe. It poses a major threat to the hard-won achievements of the feminist movement. But what are the forces pushing the 'anti-gender movement' â and how should we respond to it? How is it manifesting itself differently in different countries, and how are politicians exploiting it? How is it seeking to antagonise men's insecurities, whilst offering few solutions to the problems they face? And what can organisations working with boys and men, and each of us as individuals, do in this critical moment? Expert Aleks Dimitrijevic provides us with vital insights.
Aleks is the co-founder and president of Men Against Violence in Malta, and a member of the Steering Committee of MenEngage Europe. He talks to us about how Malta was until recently the only country in the EU to completely outlaw abortion, how activists are continuing to struggle to lift the draconian restrictions against it, and the personal challenges he and his family have faced for campaigning in this area.
Men Against Violence: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100068193336893Men 4 Dem project: https://www.men4dem.eu/MenEngage Europe: https://menengage.org/region/europe/Thank you to Dom Stichbury and Chaps Choir for our new podcast music, with their song 'Now is time' https://www.facebook.com/ChapsChoir/
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IntroductionGender (in)equality in Malta (02:12-05:17)The struggle to lift Maltaâs abortion ban (05:17-08:01)Religious obstacles (08:01-10:39)Personal challenges Aleks and his family have faced (10:39-15:04)What is backlash? (15:04-17:05)Key issues for the 'anti-gender' movement (17:05-20:17)Resistance to preventing violence against women (20:17-26:13)The weaponisation of menâs issues (26:13-29:08)The 'menâs rights' movement (29:08-38:15)BreakRight-wing populism and the mainstreaming of the 'anti-gender' movement (38:18-44:53)What people working with boys and men can do about it (44:53-48:27)Who is funding the backlash (48:27-51:36)Communicating in a language men and boys understand (51:36-55:47)Conclusion [Connections with climate denial; Struggles on the left; Parallels with the 1930s; Majority opinion; Building the next generation of activists] (55:47-01:02:24)More info
ââWomen are treated like walking incubatorsâ: Maltaâs fight for abortionâ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/19/the-fight-for-abortion-in-maltaâMalta to allow abortion but only when womanâs life is at riskâ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/28/malta-to-allow-abortion-but-only-when-womans-life-is-at-riskILGA â âFor the seventh year in a row, Malta continues to occupy the number one spot on the Rainbow Europe Map, with a score of 92%â -
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Masculinity is playing a significant yet under-discussed role in harms against animals and the environment. From hunting, to meat-eating, to driving fast cars, to burning fossil fuels, âmanâsâ domination of nature is closely connected to gender inequality and masculine norms. In this 50th episode special, we discuss with Dr Cassie Pedersen why we urgently need to break down stereotypes suggesting that it is âfeminineâ to care for nature, and help boys and men to embrace our interdependence with the world around us. We ask: Do environmental and animal activism challenge gender norms? What can each of us do in our own everyday lives? And how is ecofeminism relevant to men and boys? This is based on a new paper by Cassie and Stephen in the Journal of Criminology, âFrom men's violence to an ethic of care: Ecofeminist contributions to green criminologyâ.
Then, in part two, with Cassieâs help, we review the first 50 episodes of Now and Men. What have been our highlights so far? What directions should the podcast take in the future? And how do we face up to the increasingly authoritarian and destructive times we are living in? Join us in reflecting on the personal and political issues the podcast has explored over the last 3+ years, and what it has taught us about masculinity and allyship today.
Dr Cassie Pedersen is a Lecturer in Criminology and Criminal Justice at Federation University (Australia). Her background is in philosophy, with her PhD being on the theory of trauma, and her current work focuses predominantly on green criminology and harms against non-human animals.
Read the paper: https://doi.org/10.1177/26338076241293145A recent piece by Stephen and Cassie, âItâs time to recognise the role masculinity is playing in the climate crisisâ: https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/its-time-to-recognise-the-role-masculinity-is-playing-in-the-climate-crisisCassieâs profile: https://federation.edu.au/institutes-and-schools/ieac/staff-profiles/staf-profiles/cassie-pedersenLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassie-pedersen-a30406153/Episode timeline
IntroductionMenâs violence and environmental destruction (01:46-05:01)Green criminology and ecofeminism explained (05:01-07:28)The relationship between masculinity and violence against animals (07:28-10:47)Why an ethic of care offers an alternative (10:47-14:16)The impact of ecofeminism on Cassie and Stephen (14:16-19:51)Broadening what we mean by activism (19:51-25:19)The gendered dynamics of environmentalism (25:19-31:52)BreakStandout episodes of Now and Men (31:57-36:56)The most significant issues we have and should cover (36:56-44:28)Bizarre and unusual podcast experiences (44:28-48:40)Gender, podcasting, and allyship (48:40-52:26)Episodes weâve particularly enjoyed (52:26-54:07)What weâve learned (54:07-56:51)Inspiring figures of 2024, and messages to take away (56:51-01:02:59)EndMore info
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Why have male voice community choirs become more popular in the UK and beyond in recent years? How are they playing with norms of masculinity? Why is it that choirs often struggle to recruit men? What impact can they have on menâs lives and wellbeing? How are they helping men to connect and find community? And can they help us to build gender equality? In our Christmas Special for 2024, we explore these issues and more with Dom Stichbury.
Dom is a choir director, singer, songwriter, arranger, and group singing advocate. Heâs the founder and artistic director of London-based groups Chaps Choir and Bellow Fellows, one half of vocal duo Ben and Dom (who do shows and run workshops around the UK), and a member of Oaken (a quartet of singers and choir leaders). He also performs with the Australian-based Spooky Men's Chorale.
The episode features recordings of three Chaps Choirâs performances:
âAliloâ: https://soundcloud.com/chapschoir/sets/chaps-choir-live-union-chapelâNow is timeâ: https://open.spotify.com/track/3eVsnZrmVwM0asAJOxwCubâDrop of shantyâ: https://open.spotify.com/track/0GB0HIzocneuONyhxehdIw?si=c0fb1d6bc2bd4344Find out more about Domâs work:
http://www.dominicstichbury.comhttp://www.chapschoir.comhttps://www.bellowfellows.comhttps://www.benanddom.comhttps://www.oakenharmony.comhttps://spookymen.comEpisode timeline:
âAliloâ + Intro (00:00-02:27)The story of Chaps Choir and Bellow Fellows (02:27-04:32)The wider phenomena of male voice community choirs (04:32-06:01)International examples and subverting masculinity (06:01-07:24)Recruiting men (07:24-09:52)How the groups have shifted (09:52-11:54)The benefits of being part of a choir (11:54-16:25)Becoming more attuned with our bodies (16:25-18:00)Differences between mixed and menâs groups (18:00-20:04)Making groups inclusive (20:04-22:53)Encouraging people to sing together in settings like prisons (22:53-25:13)Why men are less likely to join choirs (25:13-29:00)Football chanting (29:00-31:14)Expressing emotion and vulnerability (31:14-35:52)âNow is timeâ (32:34-36:52)The potential for choirs to promote change (36:52-39:42)Which groups of men (donât) take part (39:42-44:25)Bringing a diverse group together (44:25-46:15)Forging friendships and community (46:15-48:15)Singing during Covid-19 (48:15-50:39)How Dom started singing (50:39-53:40)âDrop of shantyâ (53:17-55:05)Conclusion (54:32-01:01:25)More info:
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What do we know about menâs friendships, and why have their social networks declined in the past 30 years? Why do so many find it hard to cultivate emotionally supportive friendships with each other? Why is it that men are more at risk of loneliness and social isolation than women? What are the impacts of this, both for men themselves and the women they are close to? And what can we do about it?
In this episode, Dr Angelica Ferrara discusses these issues and more, drawing upon her recent article (with Dylan Vergara) âTheorizing mankeeping: The male friendship recession and womenâs associated labour as a structural component of gender inequalityâ. The authors argue that fewer close relationships between men may cause some to rely heavily on relationships with women, especially romantic relationships, for emotional support. This may increase the emotion work women do to support men, through a phenomenon Angelica and Dylan label as âmankeepingâ - which can in turn contribute to gender inequity.
Angelica is a postdoctoral scholar at Stanford Universityâs Clayman Institute for Gender Research, and a visiting fellow at the London School of Economics. She is trained as a developmental and social psychologist, and her work seeks to understand how gender ideologies shape behaviour and relationships. Sheâs currently working on a book called âMen Without Menâ, about boysâ and menâs friendships throughout history and across cultures.
Angelicaâs profile: https://gender.stanford.edu/people/angelica-puzio-ferraraLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelica-puzio-ferrara-phd-3231b6211/Twitter: https://x.com/angeliferraraRead the paper: https://doi.org/10.1037/men0000494On the media coverage it has received: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/angelica-puzio-ferrara-phd-3231b6211_mankeeping-slides-activity-7265003061960445952-U6l7/Episode timeline
IntroductionThe male friendship recession (02:32-04:39)Differences among men (04:39-07:36)Why friendships are so important (07:36-10:33)The impact of masculine norms on menâs friendships (10:33-14:03)Changes with ageing and retirement (14:03-19:18)Why menâs social settings sometimes donât help (19:18-21:18)How mankeeping works (21:18-25:16)Its impacts on women (25:16-27:30)Why boys have just as much capacity for relationships (27:30-32:08)BreakHow society needs to change (32:12-37:06)Creating spaces for men to connect (37:06-39:56)Men on their own (39:56-41:29)What individual men can do (41:29-46:03)Why we need to support others (46:03-48:29)The significance of touch (48:29-50:38)What led Angelica to this research (50:38-54:25)Conclusion [Personal struggles with conforming to masculine norms and building close friendships with men; The need to reach out; Fears of rejection; Totalitarianism and a sense of abandonment; Far-right exploitation of men's isolation] (54:25-01:03:57)More info
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With the US presidential election fast approaching, and the unexpected entry of Kamala Harris into the race, gender issues are central to the debate. Polls suggest women are more likely to vote Democrat, and men â including young men â more likely to vote Republican. A particular focus of both campaigns is on seeking to win men over, drawing upon different cultural narratives of masculinity. How is the Trump/Vance campaign drawing on masculinist and misogynistic discourses to appeal to those men who feel marginalised and resentful of womenâs gains? How are the Harris/Walz campaign seeking to promote a ânew masculinityâ, where men can be both steady and strong, tender and vulnerable?
In this episode, we explore with Rob Okun how this contemporary contest reflects shifting notions of masculinity over the past 50 years in the US. In particular, we discuss reproductive rights after the Roe vs Wade protection of the right to abortion was overturned by the Supreme Court in 2022, and the ways in which increasing numbers of men are acting in support of womenâs right to choose.
We also talk with Rob about his longstanding involvement in the US profeminist menâs movement, and how becoming a father was a key factor in his own journey to activism and engagement. Rob is perhaps best known for being the editor and publisher from 1996 to 2023 of Voice Male magazine, covering topics including menâs violence, fatherhood, menâs health, and LGBTQIA+ issues, both in the US and internationally. He is also the editor of an excellent book, âVoice Male: The Untold Story of the Profeminist Menâs Movementâ. He is a former executive director of the Menâs Resource Center for Change, which was one of the earliest menâs centers in North America. He continues to speak at colleges and universities around the US, and writes for newspapers and websites such as Ms. Magazine.
Robâs personal website: https://robokun.netVoice Male magazine: https://voicemalemagazine.orgFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/voicemalemagazineRobâs writing for Ms. Magazine: https://msmagazine.com/author/robokun/The 'Voice Male' book: https://shop.nextgenmen.ca/products/voice-male-the-untold-story-of-the-pro-feminist-mens-movement-by-rob-a-okunEpisode timeline
IntroThe impact of Hurricane Helene in North Carolina (02:22-07:11)The potential significance of having a woman of colour as president (07:11-13:08)The âgender splitâ in voting patterns (13:08-17:11)How Trump and Vance have been exploiting some menâs grievances (17:11-24:44)A ânew masculinityâ among the Democrats? (24:44-29:58)BreakRobâs journey In the US profeminist menâs movement (30:05-40:29)How Voice Male developed over time (40:29-45:38)How Rob sees his role in the movement now (45:38-51:18)What he thinks Americans should do ahead of the election (51:18-54:17)Conclusion [Comparing with Jackson Katz interview; The Man Card film; âTampon Timâ; Democrat leaders still needing to emphasise their toughness; Trump targeting young men; the US being a centre-left country; The impact of fatherhood; Overlaps in activism] (54:22-01:00:37)Explainers
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Despite the growth of discourses around âinvolved fatherhoodâ and âwork-family balanceâ, parenting remains highly challenging and inequitable, with expectations of parents intensifying and much of the load continuing to fall on mothers. This is despite men demonstrating in a variety of settings their capacity to engage in caregiving just as effectively as women. So what can we can do to make it easier for men to take up care work in its different forms, and to support parents with raising children and building gender equity in the home?
Prof Tina Miller discusses over two decades of research she has conducted on family life with parents, including a recent study on the experiences of Syrian refugee fathers in the UK and Sweden. This provides a very different picture of the struggles faced by refugees from the negative portrayals that habitually dominate media narratives.
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Tina is a Professor of Sociology at Oxford Brookes University, UK. She has been an expert advisor to the World Health Organisation, thinktanks and political parties in the UK and EU.
Profile: https://www.brookes.ac.uk/profiles/staff/tina-millerTwitter: https://x.com/proftinamillerLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tina-miller-8784a322/She has published several books on parenthood with Cambridge University Press.
Motherhood: Contemporary Transitions and Generational Change (2023): https://www.cambridge.org/au/universitypress/subjects/sociology/sociology-gender/motherhood-contemporary-transitions-and-generational-changeMaking Sense of Parenthood: Caring, Gender and Family Lives (2017): https://www.cambridge.org/au/universitypress/subjects/sociology/sociology-gender/making-sense-parenthood-caring-gender-and-family-livesMaking Sense of Fatherhood: Gender, Caring and Work (2010): https://www.cambridge.org/au/universitypress/subjects/sociology/sociology-general-interest/making-sense-fatherhood-gender-caring-and-workMaking Sense of Motherhood: A Narrative Approach (2005): https://www.cambridge.org/au/universitypress/subjects/sociology/sociology-general-interest/making-sense-motherhood-narrative-approachTina has also authored/presented a series of BBC Radio 4 Analysis programmes.
What's changing about childbirth: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001n2h0Why do we assume women care?: -
For one turbulent week at the end of July this year, serious rioting broke out across around 20 towns and cities in England and Northern Ireland. Rioters attacked homes and businesses owned by immigrants, and set fire to accommodation housing asylum-seekers. The riots began near Liverpool after the horrific murder of three young girls in a neighbouring town, about which far-right supporters spread false claims online that the perpetrator was a Muslim migrant or asylum-seeker.
Whilst some women were involved, the vast majority of the rioters were men. So how should we understand the place of masculinities and misogyny in these events, and in extreme movements more generally? What should we make of the response of the authorities, focused largely on criminality, arrests, and imprisonment? How significant is the subsequent upsurge in anti-racism rallies across the country, which heavily outnumbered the far-right rioters?
We talk to Dr Elizabeth Pearson about her recent book âExtreme Britain: Gender, Masculinity and Radicalisationâ, which explores misogyny and masculinities in relation to the far-right (English Defence League, Britain First, and For Britain) and the Islamist group al-Muhajiroun. The book is based on interviews with figures including Anjem Choudary, Tommy Robinson, Jayda Fransen, and Anne Marie Waters. Elizabeth argues that radicalisation is a âmasculinity projectâ for those who get involved in extremism â both for those on the far-right, and those in Islamist groups.
Elizabeth is a Senior Lecturer in Criminology at Royal Holloway, University of London. She is also an Associate Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) for Defence and Security Studies. Prior to academia, she worked as a radio journalist for the BBC.
Profile: https://pure.royalholloway.ac.uk/en/persons/elizabeth-pearsonTwitter: https://x.com/lizzypearsonLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-pearson-3572a117/Elizabethâs âExtreme Britainâ book: https://www.hurstpublishers.com/book/extreme-britain/She also co-authored âCountering Violent Extremism: Making Gender Matterâ (2020): https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-21962-8Her Conversation piece about the riots: https://theconversation.com/the-hypermasculine-far-right-how-white-nationalists-tell-themselves-they-are-protecting-women-and-children-when-they-riot-236250Her writing for RUSI: https://rusi.org/people/pearsonEpisode timeline
Introduction (00:00-02:37)Elizabethâs feelings as she saw the riots unfold (02:37-05:42)Government and public responses to the riots (05:42-09:30)Discourses about âprotectingâ women and girls (09:30-14:41)Connections between misogyny, domestic abuse, and extremism (14:41-19:06)Men's responses (19:06-23:55)Break (23:55)Why extremist radicalisation is a âmasculinity projectâ (24:00-27:45)Similarities and differences between the far-right and Islamist extremism... -
Professor Jeff Hearn has been engaging in academic, activist, and personal work on men, masculinities, and pro-feminism for over 45 years. So how does he reflect on what he has observed over the course of his career, and in contemporary debates? For instance, what are âpolitical masculinitiesâ and how are they playing out in todayâs turbulent political climate? Is it possible to categorise different legal and policy approaches to men and gender equality across Europe? What counts as âviolenceâ and how should we understand the links between different forms? How can memory work help to explain the relationship between masculinity and ageing? These are some of the concepts and issues we explore in this wide-ranging episode, based on Jeffâs rich body of writing and research since the 1970s.
Jeffâs work is well known in the field of critical studies on men and masculinities. He has also worked extensively on organisations, management and work, with special emphasis on gender, sexuality, diversity and intersectionality; and menâs violence to women and children. His wider interests include globalisation and transnationalisations, social theory, and cultural studies. He spent his early career at Bradford University in the UK, rising to became head of department. Since then, he has held various posts internationally, including: Research Professor in Social Sciences, Manchester University, UK; Professor of Gender Studies, Linköping University, Sweden; and currently Professor Emeritus, Management and Organisation, Hanken School of Economics, Finland; Senior Professor, Human Geography, Ărebro University, Sweden; and Professor of Sociology, University of Huddersfield, UK. He was also a founder member of âProfeministimiehetâ, Finland.
Jeffâs work:
https://www.hanken.fi/sv/person/jeff-hearnhttps://www.oru.se/english/employee/jeff_hearnhttps://pure.hud.ac.uk/en/persons/jeff-hearnEpisode timeline:
Introduction (00:00-03:32)The âmasculinity contestâ between Biden and Trump (03:32-11:50)âPolitical masculinitiesâ and recent elections across Europe (11:50-19:38)Categorising policy approaches to gender equality and men in Europe (19:38-24:51)âViolence regimesâ and interconnections between menâs violences (24:51-30:02)Break (30:02-30:08)Reflecting on Jeffâs career and the history of critical studies on men and masculinities (30:08-40:11)Focusing on menâs practices and âthe hegemony of menâ (40:11-44:13)The Older Menâs Memory Work Group (44:13-50:43)Ageing and masculinity (50:43-52:38)Conclusion (Tap Social in Oxford; 'Strong' vs collective leadership; Older men and power; Violence against women and the 'Nordic paradox'; Ecological violence; Coercive control) (52:38-59:58)More info:
âTrump v Biden: A duel of contrasting masculinitiesâ (2020) https://theconversation.com/trump-v-biden-a-duel-of-contrasting-masculinities-148300âEvaluating the concept of political masculinity/ies: A simple idea or a case of too many ideas?â (2024): https://doi.org/10.1332/25151088Y2023D000000021âEuropean Perspectives on Men and Masculinities: National and Transnational Approachesâ (2006): -
Why should we all be concerned by the content, production and dissemination of pornography today? What is the impact of the normalisation of porn culture on boys and young men? How can we help them to reject harmful and inequitable sexual behaviours and attitudes, live up to the values they hold, and build healthy, mutualistic relationships?
In this episode, youth advocate and educator Daniel Principe talks frankly about what led him to speak out about pornography, and how he came to engage with boys and young men on these issues. He describes his innovative approach in schools and colleges across Australia, and talks movingly about the positive and thoughtful responses of the boys and young men he encounters. He emphasises the need to support boys through adolescence, to help them to critique the unequal culture they are growing up in, and to champion their fundamental decency and courage.
In Australia, Daniel is a member of the DART Institute (Domestic Abuse Resource and Training Group), an Ambassador for the Womenâs Resilience Centre, and an Ambassador for the national campaign Consent Canât Wait.
Find out more about Danielâs work: https://www.danielprincipe.com.auFollow him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lastoftheromans/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-principe-8b7556ab/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mrdanielprincipeEpisode timeline:
Intro (00:00-01:32)What led Daniel to start questioning pornography (01:32-06:01)How and why pornography has become so pervasive (06:01-12:53) Problems with the content of mainstream porn (12:53-18:39)Its impacts on men and boys (18:39-24:24)Damaging consequences for male sexuality (24:24-29:15)Break (29:15-29:21)Danielâs work with boys and young men (29:21-39:18)What we can do about porn culture, personally and politically (39:18-51:52)Conclusion (Tensions between challenging and supporting boys; The need for structural change; The narrow, conservative, big business nature of porn; Profiting from cycles of shame; Boysâ capacity to critique; How porn constructs masculinity; Perpetuating the male gaze and the centring of menâs pleasure; âThe end of masculinityâ?) (51:52-59:59)More info:
Read Danielâs piece for SBS Insight: https://www.sbs.com.au/news/insight/article/porn-taught-me-to-disrespect-women-from-when-i-was-11-now-i-try-to-tell-kids-whats-real/vbk4p7ggxAustralian Government âConsent Canât Waitâ campaign: https://www.consent.gov.auAustralian eSafety Commissioner report, âBeing a young man onlineâ (2024): https://www.esafety.gov.au/research/being-a-young-man-onlineAustralian Institute of Family Studies report, âThe effects of pornography on children and young peopleâ (2017): -
Across the globe, men tend to have a lower life expectancy than women. Although there are still significant challenges facing womenâs health, on issues ranging from cancer to suicide, men are faring badly. However, a closer look reveals that this picture varies significantly across different groups of men. Why is that? What role does masculinity play in shaping health inequities among men, and their experience of illnesses like prostate cancer? For Menâs Health Week 2024, we speak to Professor Derek Griffith about why an intersectional approach, which addresses issues such as economic inequality and structural racism, is vital to engaging with men and boys about their health and wellbeing.
Derek is a Founding Co-Director of the Racial Justice Institute and Founder and Director of the Center for Menâs Health Equity at Georgetown University (Washginton, DC, United States), where he is a Professor of Health Management and Policy and Oncology. He also serves as the Chair of Global Action on Menâs Health, a global menâs health advocacy organisation.
Find out more about Derekâs work: https://gufaculty360.georgetown.edu/s/contact/0031Q00002J74ovQAB/derek-griffith
Follow him on Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrDMGriffithFollow him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/derekmgriffith/Global Action on Menâs Health: https://gamh.orgCenter for Menâs Health Equity, Georgetown University: https://cmhe.georgetown.eduEpisode timeline:
Intro (00:00-01:28)Menâs Health Week and why it matters (01:28-02:34)Why an intersectional understanding of menâs wellbeing is needed (02:34-04:45)How health inequities manifest themselves in the US (04:45-06:01)The consequences of structural racism (06:01-09:35)The influence of masculinity on different groups of men (09:35-12:27)Understanding Black American manhood (12:27-15:10)Risk-taking (15:10-16:34)Menâs poor take-up of health services (16:34-19:52)Making healthcare more accessible (19:52-22:53)The costs of healthcare in the US (22:53-26:00)Break (26:00-26:07)Lack of discussion of menâs mental health in global policies (26:07-28:03)Menâs vulnerability and looking beyond individual explanations (28:03-30:13)What policy changes are needed (30:13-32:07)Masculinity and prostate cancer (32:07-40:10)Other forms of cancer experienced by men (40:10-42:09)Discomfort among male doctors (42:09-43:43)How we can engage with marginalised men and boys about their wellbeing (43:43-48:05)Fatherhood and (self)care (48:05-51:56)Conclusion (The structural dynamics of masculinity; The role of social class; âDying of whitenessâ; Relationships and womenâs positive impact; Prostate cancer) (51:56-59:34)More info:
Syndemics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syndemic Tony Coles - âmosaic masculinityâ: https://doi.org/10.1177/1440783308092882Tony Whitehead - Jamaican and African-American men, reputation and respectability: -
Why do most men in politics avoid describing themselves and their politics as âfeministâ? If they do support gender equality, why do they prefer instead to be called allies, advocates or supporters? What does this mean in practice for what men politicians do to promote womenâs rights, and address harmful masculine norms? How are they seen by feminist activists, women politicians and young people? These are vital issues given the power men in politics have to drive (or obstruct) change towards gender equality and preventing violence against women. They are discussed in a report by Dr JĂĄn Michalko for ODI, a global affairs think tank, drawing on case studies by research teams in Colombia, Liberia and Malaysia.
We talk to JĂĄn about the findings from the research, its implications for politicians, international donors, civil society and researchers on how to engage with men in positions of power, and what such men can do to promote the transformation of unequal gender norms, in politics and in wider society.
JĂĄn is a Research Fellow in Gender Equality and Social Inclusion at ODI. His research interests are in gender inequalities, political engagement, masculinities, feminist foreign policy, and youth. His work includes supporting the digital ALiGN platform at ODI, which brings together global gender norms research and lessons for transformative change: https://www.alignplatform.org
Follow JĂĄn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jĂĄn-michalko-phd-54719251Twitter: https://x.com/MichalkoJanFollow ALiGN on Twitter: https://x.com/ALIGN_GenderODI website: https://odi.org/en/Read the full research series, including the cross-country analysis and in-depth country reports: https://www.alignplatform.org/research-series-men-politics-agents-gender-equitable-change
Episode timeline:
Intro (00:00-02:20)Why ALiGN wanted to research men in politics (02:20-05:35)The political context in Colombia, Liberia & Malaysia (05:35-08:53)Challenges of comparing across contexts (08:53-10:35)Interviewing men in politics (10:35-14:02)The reluctance of men politicians to take on the label âfeministâ (14:02-17:19)Actions speak louder than words (17:19-18:54)The risk of falls from grace (18:54-19:53)Factors shaping men politicians' engagement with gender equality (19:53-23:59)Differences across political parties (23:59-26:23)The electoral cycle (26:23-28:40)Break (28:40-28:46)Focus groups with students & activists about their views on men politicians (28:46-32:44)Anti-feminist backlash (32:44-35:55)Barriers & enablers to progress for gender equality politics (35:55-38:15)What actions men in politics can take (38:15-40:17)The influence they have on wider society (40:17-42:08)Their reluctance to reflect on masculinity (42:08-46:29)JĂĄnâs own story of how he got involved in this work (46:29-51:20)Conclusion (Interactions with MPs Tony Benn & Peter Jackson; Men politiciansâ motivations for supporting womenâs rights over time; Pushes for the Australian govt to address violence... -
Dr Ken Harland has been involved in youth work practice and research with boys and young men in Northern Ireland for the past 35 years. During that time, he has witnessed a transition from a culture in which violence and conflict was normalised, to one of peace-building and hope. But how were âThe Troublesâ shaped by gender inequality? What impact did and does the conflict have on young men growing up, and on ideas of masculinity? How is it possible to reach disadvantaged boys and young men and help them find their voice in this context? And are there lessons for elsewhere from the political transformation of Northern Ireland towards peace?
After being a community youth worker for 17 years, in 1996 Ken joined Ulster University and was co-founder and co-director of the âCentre for Young Menâs Studiesâ there from 2005-2016. Since then heâs worked independently as a consultant, trainer, lecturer and researcher in youth and youth-related issues, and also works part-time as a Research Fellow and Consultant with Ulster University's longitudinal research initiative âTaking Boys Seriouslyâ. In this episode, Ken talks movingly about his personal story, linking his early work experiences in the shipyards, to finding his passion in education, his relationship with his dad, and being a grandparent.
Follow Ken on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ken-harland-26b237b5/Read more of his research: https://pure.ulster.ac.uk/en/persons/ken-harlandCheck out his book, âBoys, Young Men and Violence: Masculinities, Education and Practiceâ (2015): https://link.springer.com/book/10.1057/9781137297358 and recent journal articles...âTaking Boys Seriously: A participatory action research initiative demonstrating the transformative potential of relational educationâ (2024): https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01425692.2024.2315121âEmbedding masculinities within a gender conscious relational pedagogy to transform education with boys experiencing compounded educational disadvantageâ (2024): https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14681366.2024.2301726We cover the following topics:
Kenâs experience of living through The Troubles (01:14-05:22)The place of gender in conversations about transition away from conflict (05:22-08:45)How men were expected to be âdefendersâ and âprotectorsâ (08:45-11:52)The dominance of the âcult of the hardmanâ (11:52-15:34)Similarities and differences in masculine pressures in different contexts (15:34-18:36)The impact of the police and army as well as paramilitary organisations (18:36-20:17)Hopes for a better future despite the challenges (20:17-25:07)The experiences of women during The Troubles (25:07-26:59)What led Ken to work on masculinity issues (26:59-35:30)The establishment of the Centre for Young Menâs Studies in Belfast (35:30-40:59)Making sense of how masculinity influences young men's (and our own) lives (40:59-46:46)Taking Boys Seriously: The need for gender conscious relational pedagogy (46:46-48:33)Practical lessons from Kenâs work with boys (48:33-53:04)Conclusion: Moving away from a culture of violence; Challenging the notion that boys donât talk; Social change in Northern Ireland,... -
The heavy toll of gun violence in the United States is having traumatising impacts on innumerable Black men and boys, many of whom will know one or more family members or friends who have died as a result. Yet there is widespread reluctance to consider the idea of vulnerability and victimisation among these young survivors.
In this episode, we hear from Dr Jocelyn Smith Lee, who has herself experienced personal loss from the violence, about her work in the cities of Greensboro and Baltimore to challenge dehumanising narratives of Black men and boys and ensure that their voices and experiences are central to efforts to tackle the violence. We also learn about community initiatives helping these men and boys and their families heal from trauma and loss.
Jocelyn is an Assistant Professor of Human Development and Family Studies at the University of North Carolina, Greensboro. She is also the founder and director of the Centering Black Voices research lab, and the founder and project lead for the visual storytelling campaign âIn All Ways Humanâ, which was originally funded by a Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Grand Challenge Award.
Find out more about Jocelynâs research: https://www.uncg.edu/employees/jocelyn-smith-lee/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jocelyn-r-smith-lee-ph-d-577b6015/Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrJocelynSmithIn All Ways Human campaign: https://inallwayshuman.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/inallwayshumanTwitter: https://twitter.com/InAllWaysHumanCentering Black Voices research lab: https://centeringblackvoices.comTwitter: https://twitter.com/CenterBLKVoicesTopics we cover:
The prevalence of gun violence in the US and its unequal impacts (01:12-04:26)The social contexts for Jocelynâs research in Baltimore, MD and Greensboro, NC (04:26-08:47)The impacts of trauma and loss from gun violence on Black men and boys (08:47-14:57)(Limited) possibilities for turning points and perceived life expectancy (14:57-19:38)Why we are so reluctant to talk about vulnerability and victimisation among Black men (19:38-22:19)The âIn All Ways Humanâ campaign that Jocelyn has created (22:19-28:30)Telling a different, positive story, through the life-course (28:30-30:49)The effects that police violence has on Black men and boys and their families (30:49-37:08)Services which play a more positive role in their lives (37:08-42:02)How we can help Black men and boys to heal from this trauma and loss (42:02-46:29)The impacts of the violence on women and girls (46:29-48:50)The disproportionate responsibility placed on Black women (48:50-50:22)The recent reduction in homicides in Baltimore, and achieving political change (50:22-55:05)Conclusion (55:05-01:01:14), including: The shocking scale of the homicides, from a young age; How masculine norms can obstruct men from talking about fear and grief; Links with episode 38... -
What is 'discomfort', and how can we engage effectively with men when they display it in conversations about masculinity, gender equality and violence? How can connecting with discomfort help to change harmful attitudes and behaviours? What are the risks and challenges in embracing discomfort, and how can they be dealt with? These issues are at the core of our discussion with Dr Nate Eisenstadt, drawing on his extensive experience of facilitating and researching bystander intervention and domestic violence perpetrator programmes in the UK.
We also explore the training room as a microcosm of wider society, and how discomfort and fear are often weaponised by public figures to promote damaging, polarising responses to complex real-world problems. Drawing on his earlier research on contemporary anarchist practices, Nate reflects on the challenges and potential of community-based transformative (as opposed to punitive) approaches to ending gender-based violence.
Nate is a Senior Research Associate at the University of Bristol in the UK, in their Medical Schoolâs Domestic Violence and Health Group, and the Co-Director of Kindling Interventions, which delivers bystander leadership programmes for violence prevention, equality and diversity.
Find out more about Nateâs research: https://research-information.bris.ac.uk/en/persons/nathan-eisenstadtLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nathan-eisenstadt/Kindling Interventions: https://kindling-interventions.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/KindlingIntervLinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/kindling-interventions/We cover the following topics:
The 'bystander leadership' training that Nate is delivering (01:31-05:16)Why he and Dr Rachel Fenton set up Kindling Interventions (05:16-09:03)Advantages and challenges with the bystander intervention approach (09:03-16:27)Different ways in which 'discomfort' can surface in this work (16:27-22:39)How to respond to discomfort when engaging with men and boys (22:39-30:57)The role of skilled facilitation (30:57-33:39)Facilitatorsâ own experiences of discomfort (33:39-37:24)How discomfort links to the backlash against feminism in wider society (37:24-42:46)Vital ingredients for impactful work with men who've perpetrated abuse (42:46-48:55)How this research links with Nateâs work on anarchist and anti-oppressive organising (48:55-52:06)Key tenets of anarchism and links with community accountability (52:06-53:58)Conclusion (53:58-59:54): Overlaps with Jens van Tricht's episode; the value of uncomfortable conversations; shifts in work with men who've used violence; the resonance of Nate's work with wider political polarisation; and anarchism and mutual aid.Further reading:
The Intervention Initiative: https://law.exeter.ac.uk/research/interventioninitiative/Rachel Fenton, Helen Mott et al. (2016) A review of evidence for bystander intervention to prevent sexual and domestic violence in universities (Public Health England): -
Now and Men is taking a break until February 2024, so in the meantime, to coincide with Veganuary and a new campaign called 'Vegan and Thriving' from the UK Vegan Society, we revisit episode 29 from June 2023, where we discussed masculinity and veganism with Dr Kadri Aavik.
Between 2016 and 2020, the number of vegans in Europe has doubled from 1.3 million to 2.6 million. More and more people are questioning the consumption of meat and dairy for ethical, environmental and health reasons. The majority are women, but a significant number of men are vegans, too â and over 30% of Europeans say they are consciously eating less meat. In this episode, we explore menâs experiences and motivations for becoming vegan and how they deal with masculine expectations about food. Veganism and vegetarianism are sometimes portrayed as âunmanlyâ and effeminate, whilst meat-eating is often associated with strength and virility. The meat and dairy industries are also major contributors to greenhouse gas emissions â might the climate crisis and increasing recognition of the harms caused by these industries be leading to changes in the behaviours of some men?
Dr Kadri Aavik is an Associate Professor of Gender Studies at Tallinn University, Estonia. Kadri has written a book about her research in Estonia and Finland, âContesting Anthropocentric Masculinities through Veganism: Lived Experiences of Vegan Menâ (Palgrave Macmillan, 2023). Research for the book was conducted as part of the project âClimate Sustainability in the Kitchen: Everyday Food Cultures in Transitionâ (University of Helsinki, 2018-2022), funded by the Kone Foundation: https://www.helsinki.fi/en/projects/climate-sustainability-kitchen
Buy Kadriâs book: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-031-19507-5Find out more about her research: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kadri-Aavik and https://www.etis.ee/CV/Kadri_Aavik/engTopics covered:
Why food and eating are gendered (02:38-05:02)How to define veganism (05:02-06:49)Kadriâs research with vegan men in Estonia and Finland (06:49-09:41)Menâs motivations for becoming vegan (09:41-11:20)Kadriâs personal relationship with veganism (11:20-13:33)The connections between meat-eating and masculinity (13:33-15:02)Gendered differences in diets (15:02-17:14)Menâs engagement in household cooking (17:14-21:32)Navigating family relationships as a vegan (21:32-23:32)The influence of patriarchy on human relations with other animals (23:32-27:42)What this has to do with climate change and âAnthropocentric masculinitiesâ (27:42-32:10)Barriers to veganism for men (32:10-37:33)The different contexts of veganism in Estonia and Finland (37:33-41:39)The extent to which veganism is a âprivilegedâ phenomenon (41:39-44:35)Achieving institutional as well as individual change (44:35-48:48)Veganism as a form of activism, not just a âlifestyle choiceâ (48:48-50:45)Impacts of veganism on menâs relationships (50:45-54:12)More info:
Veganuary (where people try being vegan throughout January) - https://veganuary.comThe UK Vegan Society - -
Blake Morrisonâs award-winning, bestselling memoir âAnd When Did You Last See Your Father?â is an honest and intimate portrait of family life, father-son relations, and the impact of bereavement. Since it came out in 1993, Blake has continued to revisit his familyâs past through âThings My Mother Never Told Meâ (2002), and is âstill working things outâ in his poignant recent book âTwo Sistersâ, about his sister Gill and half-sister Josie, published earlier this year.
In this episode, Blake reads extracts from âTwo Sistersâ and âAnd When Did You Last See Your Father?â, and we explore with him key themes in his work, including: sibling relationships; family secrets; men controlling women; male violence; transitions in father-son relations; youthful rebellion, and becoming a man. We also discuss issues around men, emotion and grief, the genres of âsib-litâ and âdad-litâ, and the impact of feminism on Blakeâs own development and writing.
As well as a memoirist, Blake is a poet, novelist, and journalist. His published work includes the poetry collections âDark Glassesâ, âThe Ballad of the Yorkshire Ripperâ and âShingle Streetâ, and most recently, âSkin and Blisterâ, and four novels, including âThe Last Weekendâ and âThe Executorâ. Heâs a regular literary critic for the Guardian newspaper and the London Review of Books, and is Professor Emeritus of creative and life writing at Goldsmiths University. Born in Yorkshire, he has lived in South London for many years.
Find out more about Blake: https://blakemorrison.netMore info about âTwo Sistersâ: https://www.boroughpress.co.uk/products/two-sisters-blake-morrison-9780008510527/âThings My Mother Never Told Meâ https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/357294/things-my-mother-never-told-me-by-morrison-blake/9780099440727âAnd When Did You Last See Your Father?â: https://granta.com/products/and-when-did-you-last-see-your-father/Blakeâs âTop 10 books about fathers and sonsâ: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/nov/02/top-10-books-about-fathers-and-sons-blake-morrison-and-when-did-you-last-see-your-fatherWe cover the following in this episode:
Reading from 'Two Sisters' (01:24-06:42)Blakeâs motivations for writing the book (06:42-08:14)Why brothers donât write about sisters (08:14-10:12)Examples of âsib-litâ (10:12-11:47)The impact of alcoholism on Gill (11:47-13:46)Alcoholism and gender (13:46-16:04)Male violence and the efforts of adults to hide it (16:04-19:18)The significance of women in Blakeâs life (19:18-21:02)The supposed stability of 1950s/60s family life (21:02-22:22)Reading from âAnd When Did you Last See Your Father?' (22:22-26:09)Why the book was so successful (26:09-27:47)The extent to which Blakeâs portrayal of fatherhood was culturally specific (27:47-30:21)âDad-litâ and other authors to read on father-son relations (30:21-32:28)Shifts in Blakeâs relationship with his dad and how he saw him (32:28-34:41)Blakeâs capacity for writing... -
How can men contribute to gender equality and justice in the world? What can they learn from feminist approaches? How can they break free from the limiting expectations of what a 'real' man should be, and become more fully human? In this episode, we talk to Jens van Tricht, the author of an inspiring book 'Why Feminism is Good for Men', now translated from the original Dutch into English by Liz Waters - and launched with this episode of Now and Men! The book offers an accessible and hopeful perspective on men and masculinities, connecting the personal and the societal, the abstract and the concrete, the theoretical and the practical, the serious and the playful.
Jens describes himself as an 'idealist, anarchist, and feminist'. In our discussion, we explore Jens's own journey and how these influences have played out: from childhood questions about gender norms, to teenage angst and punk music, the Amsterdam squatter and anarchist movements - and finding direction through Women's Studies, personal growth and feminist practice.
Drawing on these experiences, ten years ago Jens founded Emancipator, an organisation which promotes gender equality and social justice by engaging with men and boys about issues including work and care, violence and safety, sexuality and sexual diversity. Jens is also a board member of the MenEngage Global Alliance.
You can find out more about Jensâs work at https://www.jensvantricht.nl and Emancipator at https://www.emancipator.nl/en/emancipator-2/'Why Feminism is Good for Men' can be purchased in English on Amazon, and is also available in Arabic, Dutch, German and Korean: https://www.amazon.com/Why-Feminism-Good-Jens-Tricht-ebook/dp/B0C579ZY14/ref=sr_1_3Follow Jens on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jensvantricht LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jensvantricht/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jens.vantricht.7We cover the following topics in this episode:
What led Jens to write the book and why feminism is good for men (01:04-05:49)Jens's experiences as a child and how these influenced his thinking about gender (05:49-13:31)His 'journey' into feminism and formative experiences as a teenager, e.g. punk music and the Dutch squatter movement (13:31-20:20)Being a man in Women's Studies (20:20-25:47)What 'menâs liberation'/'emancipation' means (25:47-31:38)Seeing oneself as a human being rather than a man (31:38-35:06)Holding oneself to account as a man (35:06-39:18)Emancipator's approach to working with men (39:18-42:34)Why the process is so important (42:34-48:42)Why relationships, sexuality and intimacy are such vulnerable and insecure domains for men (48:42-51:10)The context of The Netherlands and its upcoming election in debates about masculinity and gender equality (51:10-55:25)Wrapping up (55:25-59:58)
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Richard Bliss is an artist and tailor based in Newcastle-upon-Tyne in the North-East of England. He currently has an exhibition of work on display at Bishop Auckland Town Hall in County Durham called âThe Quest for the Perfect Shirtâ. We recorded this episode in person with Richard in one of the galleries, and thank the curator, Debbie Connell, for making this possible.
In our discussion Richard explains how he, as a gay man, seeks to understand masculinity and menâs lives through the process of making shirts, often in public places or community settings, reflecting and responding to conversations with individuals or groups. He guides us through the exhibition, telling us about some of the pieces, the ideas behind them, what they say about contemporary expectations of manhood, how they relate to his own experiences, and the contradictions of a man practising textile art and tailoring and using it as a way to engage with other men.
You can visit âThe Quest for the Perfect Shirtâ at Bishop Auckland Town Hall until Thursday 30th November 2023: https://bishopaucklandtownhall.org.uk/gallery/current-exhibition/You can view photos of many of the shirts from the exhibition on Richardâs Instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/richard_bliss_newcastle_/Or his Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/richardne001There is more information about Richard and his work here: https://www.richardbliss.co.ukA second exhibition by Richard, âWorkersâ Threadâ, celebrates the contribution of working-class women and men to the history of County Durham, and is also on display in the Town Hall. We refer briefly to this at the end our conversation, and to the âThe Mural of the Durham Minersâ Galaâ by Norman Cornish, which occupies a whole wall there.
We discuss the following topics in this episode:
Why the exhibition is named âThe Quest for the Perfect Shirtâ (01:25-06:38)Richardâs methods and why he uses shirts as his medium (06:38-11:04)Tailoring in public space and talking to people about masculinity (11:04-13:42)What Richard has learnt from the process (13:42-17:18)Favourite pieces from the exhibition â e.g. working with homeless men (17:18-24:14)The complexities of identity: being gay and being Jewish (24:14-30:50)Men and power at work (e.g. former Liberal Party politician David Steel) (30:50-36:53)How Richard got into textile art and tailoring (36:53-39:45)Ties and gendered power in clothing (39:45-42:41)Art and its social impact (e.g. Grayson Perry, author of âThe Descent of Manâ, 2021) (42:41-45:04)The influence of Durham and North East England, e.g. its working-class, trade union, mining history (45:04-50:01)Why the exhibition is in Bishop Auckland (50:01-55:28)Thinking about the future, and Richardâs next project on older gay men (55:28-59:55)For more information about the unique collection of galleries and gardens that make up the still developing âAuckland Projectâ in Bishop Auckland including the Spanish Gallery, the Faith Museum, the Castle, the Mining Art Gallery, and the Deer Park, see: https://aucklandproject.org
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What is 'patriarchy' and where do its origins lie? How did it become embedded in societies from prehistory to the present? What part do we all play in maintaining patriarchal structures, and can they be dismantled? These are some of the pressing questions we discuss in this episode with Angela Saini, author of a fascinating new book 'The Patriarchs: How Men Came to Rule' (Harper Collins): https://harpercollins.co.uk/products/the-patriarchs-how-men-came-to-rule-angela-saini?variant=39997855268942
Angela is an award-winning British journalist, currently based in New York. She teaches science writing at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, presents radio and television programmes, and has written for National Geographic, the Financial Times, and Wired. In 2022 she was a Logan Nonfiction Program fellow, and a fellow of the Humboldt Residency Programme in Berlin. 'The Patriarchs' follows on from her earlier books, the critically acclaimed 'Superior: The Return of Race Science' and 'Inferior: How Science Got Women Wrong'.
Website: https://www.angelasaini.co.ukInstagram: https://instagram.com/angeladsaini/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelasaini/We cover the following topics in this episode:
Defining 'patriarchy' (01:01-02:32)'The Patriarchs' as a title (02:32-03:51)'Patriarchy' as a system (03:51-05:21)Motivations for writing the book (05:21-06:46)Animals and 'natural' male domination (06:46-10:32)Angela's journey exploring gender diversity in how people live (10:32-12:01)Matrilineal societies and why they are important (12:01-15:07)European colonialism and the imposition of patriarchal norms (15:07-16:08)The 1848 Seneca Falls Women's Rights Convention and pre-existing Native American societies (16:08-20:14)Weighing archaeological, anthropological and ancient DNA evidence â the work of Marija Gimbutas (20:14-27:50)Colonial and patriarchal justifications for inequality, e.g. in Athens (27:50-33:43)Rise of the first states: organising around birth rates and defence (33:43-38:37)Putin's Russia as a model of the patriarchal state (38:37-40:54)Complexities of women and men supporting or resisting patriarchy (40:54-42:26)Shifting and reframing âpatriarchiesâ over time, e.g. Afghanistan (42:26-45:37)Hanging onto a positive vision of a radically different world, e.g. Iran (45:37-47:47)Explaining social behaviour and social change beyond biology (47:47-50:01)Angela's current and future projects (50:01-52:55)Conclusion (52:55-58:43)References:
Marija Gimbutas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marija_GimbutasIan Hodder: http://www.ian-hodder.com/Gerda Lerner - âThe Creation of Patriarchyâ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Creation_of_PatriarchyJames Scott: - Laat meer zien
