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===============In this week’s podcast episode, John addresses this question: Even if I’m burned out and frustrated, are there ways to stay in clinical medicine while achieving balance, satisfaction, and enjoyment? During this presentation, he discusses the following 5 options for remaining in clinical practice.
Take another stab at addressing the circumstances leading to dissatisfaction by aggressively renegotiating your employment contract. Review your contract and identify the major issues causing your frustration. Develop a strategy for renegotiating those issues with your attorney. These typically involve vacation time and covering for others’ vacations, work hours, salary, restrictive covenants, and inadequate pay for collaborating with midlevel providers.
If you’re looking for a new job, consider engaging an agent to represent you in contract negotiations with a new employer, often at no cost to you.
Start a new practice or join one that does not bill insurance companies. Direct Primary Care and Concierge practices, and narrow-focused practices often enable the physicians to work on cash-only, fee-for-service, or membership models, and to create a better lifestyle and income.
Almost any of us could start or transition to a narrow focused practice. John’s colleague was a full-time general pediatrician who transitioned to caring solely for patients with attention deficit disorder. He uses standard protocols for evaluation and management, and is an expert at billing for these services. He reduced his staff and overhead and his satisfaction and income have improved.
Finally, for those who want to achieve many of the above advantages, and others, without starting a practice, working as a micro-corporation may be a great choice. Incorporating and working as an independent contractor for a large group or hospital system provides more tax benefits, flexible investment opportunities, and off-loading the expenses for rent and staffing.
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===============Dr. Zhen Chan knew early on that he wanted to be a physician and to develop new technologies and businesses to improve patient care and physician satisfaction and fulfillment. So it made sense that he would pause his medical education and obtain a traditional MBA degree.
With those degrees under his belt, he attended a pediatric residency. He went one step further and worked for a venture capital firm during his first year of pediatric practice. Now he is the CEO of a start-up company and a part-time practicing pediatrician. The company he leads, Grapevyne, facilitates job searches for physicians while reducing the costs of recruitment to hospitals and medical groups.
During our conversation today, Zhen describes what motivated him to attempt to balance 2 major careers so early in his career. Then we learn about his vision for Grapevyne, and what has been accomplished so far.
He also provides details on the Grapevyne incentive program that encourages physicians to share job openings with each other by offering modest finders fees. And he shares his vision for growing the company while offering other valuable free and low-cost services to physicians, including referrals for nonclinical jobs.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/new-way-to-find-a-job/
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Zijn er afleveringen die ontbreken?
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===============Today John presents his interview with a medical entrepreneur who started a business to improve patient access. A business that thrived during the Covid Pandemic while other businesses were struggling.
TJ Oshun emigrated from Nigeria 20 years ago. He became a physician assistant and enrolled in medical school. This was about 5 years before the Covid Pandemic hit. He was inspired to start his business when he saw how much difficulty patients faced because hospital emergency rooms were the only option for care at night and on weekends in his community.
During our conversation, TJ described how he established CallonDoc, a company that started by connecting patients with medical providers by telephone. He quickly expanded to telehealth and telemedicine, hiring software engineers to build his own platform for delivering the care.
He was well positioned when the pandemic occurred to provide the care needed during lockdowns. He explains how CallonDoc has flourished since then, providing care across the U.S., and how it has expanded into other service lines
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/fearless-medical-entrepreneur/
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===============Today John is shifting his focus to the topic of physician leadership. In the past few years, he has presented interviews with physicians in many unconventional careers with the occasional episode devoted to hospital leadership.
During the next few months, he will focus a bit more on opportunities that involve leadership roles in the hospital setting, because that is where most of the intense and expensive care is provided, and where he believes more physician leadership is needed.
To start this series, he recommends considering your motives for pursuing this nonclinical career and provides tips for getting started. Then he spends several minutes describing how physician executives must shift their focus from being decisive tactical “doers” to becoming strategic delegating planners with a focus on organizational accountability.
Finally, John describes the importance of personal accountability, optimism, and humility as key attributes for the developing physician leader.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/be-a-better-physician-leader/
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===============In this week's Classic Podcast Episode from 2020, Dr. Jennifer Spector describes how to become a medical editor. Unlike other medical editors who spent years as a paid medical writer, Jennifer parlayed her involvement in a professional society and unpaid writing to land her new editor position.
Jennifer is a Board-Certified Podiatric Physician and Surgeon with 14 years of clinical experience. She received her DPM degree from the Temple University School of Podiatric Medicine. Then she completed a three-year residency in podiatric medicine at Christian Care Health System.
She spent over 5 years in national leadership positions at the American Association for Women Podiatrists (AAWP). While at the AAWP she was responsible for writing and editing the newsletter and other documents. That experience enabled her to land her position as Associate Editor for Podiatry Today.
After working in that position for about 20 months, Jennifer was promoted to Senior Editor followed by Managing Editor at Podiatry Today. In July of 2022, she became one of the Assistant Editorial Directors at HMP Global, the parent company of Podiatry Today and a market leader in international healthcare education and clinician engagement.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/become-a-medical-editor/
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===============Dr. Neetu Sharma is a board-certified internist and nephrologist and Functional Medicine expert. She completed her internal medicine residency at Wayne State University Detroit Medical Center and her nephrology fellowship at the University of Cincinnati.
Dr. Sharma worked in a very busy private nephrology practice and became disillusioned with the heavy workload and not getting to the root causes of her patient's medical problems. She considered her options, obtained additional training in Functional Medicine, and decided to completely overhaul her career.
She decided to find a stable nonclinical career alternative, while also building a part-time virtual practice that incorporates her traditional medical training with functional medicine. She now works as a medical director for a large health plan full time, applying her medical experience and knowledge every day. She is building a new practice called Zeal Vitality offering personalized proactive wellness plans, advanced diagnostics with biomarker analysis, and holistic strategies to promote weight loss, metabolic and kidney health, and overall vitality.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/health-insurance-medical-director/
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===============Dr. Christian Zouain completed medical school in the Dominican Republic in 2010. He moved to the U.S. and, while applying for U.S. residencies, he leveraged his medical background by working as a medical assistant and scribe, and then as a Medical Case Manager and Utilization Review Specialist at hospital in New York City. There he discovered the field of Clinical Documentation Improvement (CDI).
He switched gears and obtained training in CDI and ICD-10 Coding. He used LinkedIn to network and discovered a hospital nearby looking to hire physician CDI specialists for their CDI program.
He was hired in 2015 and has worked in the field ever since. He has worked as a CDI (now Clinical Documentation Integrity) Specialist, Medical Reviewer, and Auditor, on-site and remotely, as an employee and as a self-employed freelancer. During this classic interview, Christian describes his journey, the attraction of working in the industry, and the resources to help physicians land their first CDI position.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/become-a-cdi-expert/
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===============Dr. Heather Fork is an ICF master certified coach helping physicians find their best career path forward, whether in medicine, a nonclinical career, or something else. Heather is passionate about making it easier for physicians to navigate their careers.
She hosts the weekly Doctor’s Crossing Carpe Diem Podcast. And she has created several helpful free resources and paid courses, which can be found at doctorscrossing.com. Besides her coaching, two of her most popular resources are the Carpe Diem Resumé Kit and her course LinkedIn for Physicians (both are affiliate links so I may receive a payment if you purchase the course using my link - John).
In today’s interview, Heather helps us understand the root causes of procrastination. She then shares a model about procrastination and several tactics for overcoming it. Finally, she closes by describing how to use Artificial Intelligence to help eliminate this roadblock to your progress.
You'll find links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/procrastination/.
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===============Greg Gilbaugh, DDS, completed his dental education, including an advanced dental residency, at the University of Iowa. Dr. Gilbaugh then established the Family Dental Center, near Cedar Rapids, which he has run for over 30 years.
During his long career he was forced to rebuild his practice from the ground up not once, but twice due to “once in a lifetime” natural disasters. Then, when the dust finally settled, he was diagnosed with a physical disability that meant he could no longer practice dentistry and was forced to put his full focus on running the business side of his practice.
This led to him establishing the Kalos Business Group through which he speaks and consults on leadership and business development, helping others in their journey to connect that which is most important with the area in which they spend the most time (their business). He is also the author of Letting Good Things Run Wild.
You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/beat-burnout-for-good/
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===============Today’s episode is Part 2 of my interview with Dr. Tod Stillson. Tod is a family physician who discovered that he could improve his autonomy and increase his income by incorporating and switching from employee to micro-corporation owner. In Episode 374 we learned that 10 years ago he discovered he could practice under a professional services agreement with the hospital system, so he incorporated and began working as a mini-corporation.
We pick up the interview with Tod, who explains how he shifted from employment to working using a professional services agreement. Then, he discusses a variety of benefits that you can access under this new model.
We also discuss the free and paid resources available to help physicians including his book, Doctor Incorporated: Stop the Insanity of Traditional Employment and Preserve Your Professional Autonomy, a blog, a membership program, free e-books, and consultation services.
Before closing, we discuss other options for physicians seeking more fulfillment and control, including direct primary care and other cash-only practices, and compare them to the microcorporation employment-lite approach to contracting with an employer.
You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/benefits-of-a-professional-corporation
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===============Dr. Tod Stillson earned his medical degree at the Indiana University School of Medicine. He then completed a Family Medicine Residency and a one-year fellowship focusing on Obstetrics at the Roanoke Memorial Hospital in Roanoke, Virginia.
He has practiced Family Medicine in North Central Indiana for almost 30 years, initially as an employee of the local hospital. About 10 years ago he discovered he could practice under a professional services agreement with the hospital system, so he incorporated and began working as a mini-corporation. That opened up many opportunities for him resulting in more autonomy and a higher income.
He has now created several resources to help educate other physicians about incorporating and contracting with employers in this new way. These include a book called Doctor Incorporated: Stop the Insanity of Traditional Employment and Preserve Your Professional Autonomy, a blog, a membership program, free e-books, and consultation services.
This week’s podcast is Part 1 of the 2-Part interview, which concludes with Episode 375 of the Physician Nonclinical Careers Podcast in one week.
You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/win-as-a-micro-corporation/
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===============This is Part 2 of our interview with Dr. Debra Blaine. Dr. Debra Blaine is a retired family physician who has always wanted to be a novelist. So she began writing and published her first book a few years ago using a hybrid publisher. Following that experience, she decided to learn how to self-publish.
She has now written seven books, publishing most of them herself. She now helps other authors write and self-publish their books. Her most recent book is a self-published book about self-publishing.
In today’s episode, we close the interview as Debra explains how she helps her clients develop and write their novels and nonfiction books.
You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/more-on-how-to-publish/
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===============Dr. Debra Blaine is a retired family physician who has always wanted to be a novelist. So she began writing and published her first book a few years ago using a hybrid publisher. However, she was frustrated by the costs and long publication process required using a hybrid.
She continued writing books and taught herself how to self-publish both fiction and nonfiction books. She has now written seven books and helps other authors write and self-publish their books. Her most recent book is a self-published book about self-publishing.
Today she returns to the podcast to share what she has learned with you. And to try to convince you to write and self-publish your book as a way to promote your clinical or nonclinical business.
You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/how-to-publish-a-book/
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===============Today I want to provide an update on the part-time work providing remote collaboration and supervision. This is also known as working as a remote medical director. One of the attractive parts of this job is that you are paid for being AVAILABLE for collaboration. So, you can generate income while doing other things to some extent.
It’s something that I have been doing for the past 2 ½ years. I've been the medical director for a new urgent care network since 2014. Four years ago I began cutting back on my clinic hours and completely withdrew 2 years ago from direct patient care. However I still serves as remote medical director, collaborating as needed with APNs and PAs, updating policies, reviewing charts, and performing other medical director duties.
In today’s presentation, I focus on providing these services through third-party companies that find opportunities for collaborating physicians, connecting them with healthcare organizations that need help. This presentation is the recording of a Q&A Session held in January of this year. You can learn about these free sessions by signing up for my emails at nonclinicalphysicians.com/dailyemail.
You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/remote-collaboration/
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===============Emma Nichols, PhD, first appeared on the PNC podcast to discuss one of the most popular freelance nonclinical jobs available to physicians and other clinicians: medical writing. In today’s replay from 2018, we’re provided a comprehensive overview of freelance medical writing.
Emma has a doctorate in molecular biology and started writing professionally early in her career. She quickly became a seasoned medical communications professional specializing in continuing medical education and medical news writing. Her company, Nascent Medical, now provides expert medical writing services through its team of experienced MD- and PhD-level writers.
In addition to being a seasoned medical writer, she has been teaching others how to set up and market their own medical writing businesses through her Six-Week Course on Freelance Medical Writing. In fact, several of my podcast guests have completed her course prior to starting their own medical writing careers.
You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/be-a-freelance-medical-writer/
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This week, John focuses on one of the 3 popular nonclinical careers he discussed in last week’s episode, that of hospital Chief Medical Officer (CMO).
He uses the 100 Top Hospitals Award as a model for physicians to identify the expertise they should develop to fulfill the role of CMO. He describes the components of the Top 100 Hospital Award:
Mortality Rate Complication Rate Healthcare Associated Infection Rate 30-Day Mortality Rate 30-Day Readmission Rate Length of Stay Spending Per Beneficiary Expense Per Discharge HCAHPS (Patient Satisfaction) Scores Adjusted Operating Profit MarginLooking at this list, in most hospitals the CMO is the professional with the training and experience most able to address the first 6 items. Knowing that, it behooves physicians planning to seek a CMO role to develop experience in hospital quality improvement and patient safety, utilization management, coding and documentation, infection prevention, and information management.
During this short tutorial, John describes how physicians can efficiently develop those skills through part-time volunteer and paid roles in their hospitals using this model to direct them.
You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at https://nonclinicalphysicians.com/best-cmo-leading-a-top-100-hospital/
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===============This week, John describes why it is natural to want to “level up” your career once you have accomplished all you want to do as a clinician, using professional athletes and attorneys as examples. Leveling up is a process of taking your career to the next level by building on your education, training, and experience to a new level of satisfaction and income.
He does this by selecting and describing the 3 most popular full-time nonclinical careers. Each year thousands of physicians are recruited for these positions. They generally offer excellent benefits, competitive salaries, and room for advancement.
John describes their pros and cons and lists resources to use to find and land your first job. For those who don’t want to spend 6 to 12 months researching all possible options, focusing on these jobs in the hospital, biopharma, and health insurance industries will help accelerate your transition.
You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/popular-full-time-careers/
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Dr. Armin Feldman is a psychiatrist who learned to work with attorneys as an expert witness early in his career. After selling a nationwide network of head injury rehabilitation centers, he focused on helping attorneys with pre-trial consultations to help with their cases to obtain better settlements, and more appropriate medical care for their clients.
About 16 years ago he began teaching other physicians how to duplicate his pre-litigation, pretrial medical legal consulting business. Through his coaching and support, he instructs physicians on the medicine involved, and the marketing, operational, legal, and financial aspects necessary to create a viable consulting business.
In this classic replay from 2021, he explains what he does, how it is different from expert witness consulting, and why it has become so popular. He also explains how his medical legal consulting coaching works and how to reach him to learn more about it.
You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/best-new-physician-consulting-business.
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Dr. Sue Zimmerman is an orthopedic surgeon who appeared on the podcast to discuss how she planned for her transition out of traditional medicine after 24 years. She had the foresight to engage a career coach before she needed to shift gears.
When the time came, she applied a strategy that worked brilliantly for her: find several part-time jobs that aligned with her vision and skills. In her case, that meant knitting together writing, editing, teaching, and providing nonsurgical orthopedic services. The result was a balanced, interesting, fulfilling, and productive lifestyle.
In today’s replay from 2018, Sue explains how she pulled this off, offering advice, encouragement, and specific tactics for listeners to apply.
You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/writing-teaching-and-limiting-clinical/
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Dr. Judy Finney is an interventional cardiologist who appeared on the podcast to discuss the amazing field of Life Insurance Medicine in 2018. During this interview, Judy described why she decided to leave clinical medicine, how she quickly landed a job at a life insurance company, and why she loves what she is doing.
She also lists several resources and tips to help you find and pursue your first medical director position.
At the time of our interview, she was serving as an Associate Medical Director. Since then, she moved on to a Medical Director position for 2 years before accepting a position as Vice President for a major mutual insurance company earlier this year.
You will find all of the links mentioned in the episode at nonclinicalphysicians.com/amazing-field-of-life-insurance-medicine/
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