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Today, Hunter spoke once again with Rob Poggenklass and Bryan Kennady from Justice Forward Virginia. Last year, Justice Forward Virginia joined the show to discuss the 2024 criminal justice policies being floated in Virginia. Today, Rob and Bryan are here to discuss what the 2025 legislative session has in store for criminal justice reform in Virginia.
Guest
Rob Poggenklass, Executive Director, Justice Forward Virginia
Bryan Kennedy, Public Defender, Fairfax County, Treasurer, Justice Forward Virginia
Resources:
Justice Forward Virginia 2025 Legislative Priorities
https://justiceforwardva.com/blog/2024/12/13/2025-virginia-general-assembly-legislative-priorities
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Today, Hunter spoke with Kerrie Liang, a student at Princeton University, to discuss the wrongful conviction of Ivery Dorsey. Through her and classmates work at Princeton, Kerrie walks us through how the inconsistent eye witness testimony of one person ultimately led to the wrongful conviction of Ivery.
Guest
Kerrie Liang, Student, Princeton University
Resources:
More Resources about Ivery’s Case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpV9qkt7JHM
https://www.instagram.com/bringiveryhome/reel/CsKxrNrOGgy/
https://makinganexoneree.org/2023
https://www.gofundme.com/f/wrongfully-convictedlegal-help-for-ivery-dorsey
https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/ivery-dorsey-case-princeton-students/
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Today, Hunter spoke with Hans Meyer and Holly Lucas to discuss a variety of topics at the intersection of the criminal legal and immigration systems. With the Trump administration poised to implement a policy of mass deportation, Hans and Holly offer insights into how they have worked in court rooms and the Colorado State Legislature to guide Colorado to more humane immigration policies.
Guest
Holly Lucas, Public Defender, Colorado State Public Defender
Hans Meyer, Criminal Defense and Immigration Lawyer, The Meyer Law Office
Resources:
Contact Hans
https://themeyerlawoffice.com/
Laken Riley Act
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-statement-on-senate-advancing-laken-riley-act-to-final-vote
What to do if ICE shows up
https://www.nilc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/EmployerGuide-NELP-NILC-2017-07-1.pdf
https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/immigrants-rights
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Today, Hunter spoke with Senior Reporter at The Appeal, Elizabeth Weill-Greenberg. A few weeks ago, Hunter was joined by Phil Wilayto of the Virginia Defender to talk about why prisoners of Virginia’s Red Onion Prison were lighting themselves on fire. Today, Elizabeth joins to reveal how despite the public proclamations by DOC officials, prisoners were lighting themselves on fire all along.
Guest
Elizabeth Weill-Greenberg, Senior Reporter, The Appeal
Resources:
Follow Elizabeth
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https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:dld6gvzefnncxuiaccy2u3qn
Read about Red Onion Prison
https://theappeal.org/red-onion-virginia-prison-self-immolated/
https://www.vpm.org/news/2024-12-06/ekong-eshiet-kevin-rashid-johnson-red-onion-vadoc-wise-county
https://virginiamercury.com/2025/01/09/rally-continues-call-for-investigation-into-red-onion-state-prison-presses-for-prison-reforms/
https://www.vpm.org/news/2025-01-10/red-onion-prison-incarceration-wise-county-pound-death-mike-jones
https://www.prisonradio.org/news-update/red-onion-state-prison-update/
https://theappeal.org/virginia-prison-response-red-onion-self-immolation/
https://theappeal.org/prisoners-intentionally-burned-themselves-red-onion-state-prison-virginia/
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Today, Hunter spoke with Professor Brittany Freidman about her new book Carceral Apartheid. In this book, Professor Freidman tells the story of the California Prison System, the racist violence the system permits to exist, and how the prison system used all of us power to crush the political arm of the Black Guerilla Family. Through this conversation, Hunter and Professor Freidman hope to demonstrate what our system does and does not permit to continue.
Guest
Brittany Friedman, Professor of Sociology, University of Southern California
Resources:
Pick up a Copy of Brittany’s Book
https://uncpress.org/book/9781469683409/carceral-apartheid/
COINTELPRO
https://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-pro
https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/federal-bureau-investigation-fbi
https://www.pbs.org/hueypnewton/actions/actions_cointelpro.html
https://www.npr.org/2021/01/18/956741992/documentary-exposes-how-the-fbi-tried-to-destroy-mlk-with-wiretaps-blackmail
https://www.lib.berkeley.edu/about/news/fbi
https://www.brandeis.edu/writing-program/write-now/2018-2019/silverman-jacob/index.html
https://ccrjustice.org/home/blog/2020/08/04/fbi-s-legacy-smearing-movements-terrorism-justify-suppression
https://moguldom.com/448109/fact-check-before-malcolm-x-was-murdered-j-edgar-hoover-sent-message-do-something-about-malcolm-x/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1969/07/16/J-Edgar-Hoover-Black-Panther-Greatest-Threat-to-US-Security/1571551977068/
https://onlineexhibits.library.yale.edu/s/black-panther-may-day/page/the-black-panthers-and-the-fb
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Today, Hunter sat down with Scott Troxell to wrap up our conversation on Colorado Municipal Courts. This time, the conversation focuses on how Rifle Municipal Courts were giving people 6 Months sentences for thefts that the state only gave 10 day sentences.
Guest
Scott Troxell, Attorney, Glenwood Springs, Colorado
Resources:
2017 ACLU Report on Colorado Municipal Courts
https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/JUSTICE-DERAILED-web.pdf
Coverage of Municipal Courts in Rifle by Denver Post
https://www.denverpost.com/2024/12/24/colorado-legislature-municipal-court-bills/
https://www.denverpost.com/2024/09/22/colorado-municipal-courts-sentences-minor-crime/
ACLU Amicus Brief
https://www.aclu-co.org/en/cases/mobley-v-city-rifle-amicus
Rifle Changes Ordinance
https://www.coloradopolitics.com/courts/colorado-supreme-court-dimisses-appeal-after-rifle-backs-down/article_1ff3e57e-9e04-11ee-9a8a-6b95521cebde.html
Current Colorado Supreme Court Issues
https://www.aclu-co.org/en/cases/camp-v-city-westminster-amicus
https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/2024-11-07_aclu_cff_amicus_br.pdf
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Today, Hunter sat down with longtime death penalty abolitionist activist Abraham Bonowitz. On previous episodes about death penalty abolition, the show has primarily focused on the successes and failures of the fight in the court room. Today however, Abe joins the show to discuss the types of media campaigns and coalition building that is necessary to fight and ultimately abolish the death penalty outside of the four corners of the court house.
Guest
Abraham Bonowitz, Executive Director, Death Penalty Action
Resources:
Death Penalty Action contact
https://deathpenaltyaction.org/
https://www.facebook.com/deathpenaltyaction
https://x.com/DeathPenaltyAct
https://www.instagram.com/deathpenaltyaction/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMW5q-nvTO9XSm38BwgwJgw
Melissa Lucio
https://freemelissalucio.org/
https://www.amazon.com/State-Texas-Vs-Melissa-Special/dp/B08L3Q69NR
https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/movies/the-state-of-texas-vs.-melissa/1e71f675-ac8e-303c-a9fa-5dae467c02df
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/trial-judge-declares-melissa-lucio-to-be-actually-innocent-recommends-texas-cca-overturn-conviction-and-death-sentence
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/15/melissa-lucio-death-penalty-judge-overturn/
Commutations
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/25/nx-s1-5237504/biden-gets-support-for-commuting-federal-death-row-sentences-for-37-of-40-prisoners
https://www.newsweek.com/death-row-joe-biden-commute-dylann-roof-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-robert-bowers-2005007
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/in-wake-of-president-bidens-federal-commutations-north-carolina-governor-cooper-grants-clemency-to-15-death-sentenced-prisoners-the-largest-grant-of-capital-clemency-in-state-history
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/23/g-s1-38794/biden-death-row-commutations
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-prisoners-cant-legally-object-bidens-death-row-commutations-doj-ar-rcna186280
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/23/us/politics/biden-commutes-37-death-sentences.html
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Today, Hunter sat down with Keri Williams to continue our coverage of Municipal Courts in Colorado. This time, they discussed how Pueblo Municipal Courts were giving people years in jail for contempt of court charges.
Guest
Keri Williams, Attorney, Pueblo, Colorado
Resources:
2017 ACLU Report on Colorado Municipal Courts
https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/JUSTICE-DERAILED-web.pdf
Coverage of Municipal Courts in Pueblo by Denver Post
https://www.denverpost.com/2024/07/21/pueblo-municipal-contempt-of-court-charges-jail-time/
https://www.denverpost.com/2024/08/01/pueblo-municipal-court-workplace-investigation/
https://www.denverpost.com/2024/09/11/pueblo-contempt-court-city-defends-investigation/
https://www.denverpost.com/2024/10/11/pueblo-judge-contempt-of-court-aclu-challenge/
https://www.denverpost.com/2024/12/10/pueblo-inmates-released-contempt-court-ruled-unconstitutional/
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https://www.beckerlawgroup.net/
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Today, Hunter sat down with Alison Gordon to continue our coverage of Municipal Courts in Colorado. This time, the discussion focuses on the extremely punitive Westminster Municipal Court.
Guest
Alison Gordon, Associate Attorney, McCabe Law
Resources:
2017 ACLU Report on Colorado Municipal Courts
https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/JUSTICE-DERAILED-web.pdf
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https://www.mccabe-law.net/
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Today, Tristan Gorman and Rebecca Wallace are back this time to discuss municipal courts in Colorado. This episode is the first of our four-part series on municipal courts in Colorado. This episode gives a general overview of problems in this courts and then dives into the outright denial of counsel happening in Grand Junction’s Municipal Court.
Guest
Tristan Gorman, Policy Director, Colorado Criminal Defense Bar
Rebecca Wallace, Policy Director, Colorado Freedom Fund
Resources:
2017 ACLU Report on Colorado Municipal Courts
https://www.aclu-co.org/sites/default/files/JUSTICE-DERAILED-web.pdf
Coverage by the Denver Post
https://www.denverpost.com/2024/10/17/grand-junction-municipal-court-public-defenders-right-to-counsel/
Coverage by Grand Junction Daily Sentinel
https://www.gjsentinel.com/news/western_colorado/grand-junction-municipal-court-accused-of-constitutional-violations/article_abbff94a-8d8b-11ef-af0d-a3597da2fba4.html
CFF Website
https://www.coloradofreedomfund.org/
CCDB Website
https://ccdb.org/
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Today, Tristan Gorman and Rebecca Wallace join the show to discuss the policies, ballot initiatives, and rhetoric from district attorneys that is pushing Colorado back in a “tough on crime” direction. Through their work with their respective organizations, Rebecca and Tristan are intimately familiar with the conversations that the state legislature engage in around crime and the criminal legal system.
Guest
Tristan Gorman, Policy Director, Colorado Criminal Defense Bar
Rebecca Wallace, Policy Director, Colorado Freedom Fund
Resources:
Colorado Freedom Fund Links
https://www.coloradofreedomfund.org/
https://www.coloradofreedomfund.org/2024-legislation
Colorado Criminal Defense Bar
https://ccdb.org/
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A Bonus Episode for everyone! On Monday, I had a discussion/debate with Daniel Carr, a former cop from Albuquerque, New Mexico. Today, we discussed/debated the use of force in the SrA Roger Fortson, the Execution of Marcellus Williams, and the citation issued to a homeless, pregnant woman in Louisville Kentucky
Guest
Daniel Carr, Police Law Newsletter
Resources:
Links to Daniel’s Work
https://linktr.ee/policelawnews
SrA Roger Fortson Case
https://www.npr.org/2024/08/23/nx-s1-5088020/roger-fortson-death-florida-sheriff-deputy-charged-manslaughter
https://apnews.com/article/airman-shot-florida-deputy-roger-fortson-760057db9fd9c7b2f25e85b1b285e8e3
Execution of Marcellus Williams
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-5612/326599/20240923222829451_2024.09.23%20Williams%20Glossip%20Cert%20Petition%20FINAL.pdf
https://www.google.com/search?q=marcellus+williams+pettion&oq=marcellus+williams+pettion&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQABgKGIAEMgkIAhAAGAoYgATSAQg2MjkyajBqNKgCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Pregnant KY Woman Cited for Unlawful Camping
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/21/us/kentucky-woman-pregnant-homeless-police.html#:~:text=A%20homeless%20woman%20said%20that,camera%20footage%20released%20on%20Thursday.
https://www.wlky.com/article/body-cam-footage-lmpd-citing-pregnant-homeless-woman-labor/63251559
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/20/pregnant-kentucky-woman-labor
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Thank you to everyone who has made the show possible this year. Whether you are a listener, a subscriber, a guest, or a friend of the show, this show would not be possible without you! Thanks for another amazing year, and Hunter is looking forward to another incredible year in 2025.
*NO EPISODES THIS THURSDAY OR NEXT TUESDAY*
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Today, Hunter is joined by professor Ráchael Powers to discuss Marsy’s Law. For those unfamiliar, Marsy’s Law is one of many types of Victim’s Bill of Rights law that exist around the country. These laws are designed to give victims of crime more rights in the criminal legal system. The only problem? They often directly conflict with the rights of the accused. Today, Ráchael joins us to talk about a report she published for the NACDL about the dangers of Marsy’s Law.
Guests:
Ráchael Powers
Resources:
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https://researchdirectory.uc.edu/p/powersro
https://x.com/rpowerscrim?lang=en
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https://www.nacdl.org/Document/JusticeforNoneHowMarsysLawUnderminesCrimLegalSys
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Today, Hunter is joined once again by Eric Fish and Chesa Boudin. This time, Eric and Chesa join the show to discuss a recent law review article they published discussing ways to strengthen pre-trial adjudication. As discussed at length on the show, our criminal legal system has killed the jury trial. As a result, opportunities to bring injustices, misconduct, and corruption to light have faded away. Chesa and Eric’s law review article attempts to point out places around the country that have figured out ways to revive adversarial aspects of our legal system before trial. In doing so, they offer a pathway that criminal defense lawyers may be able to increase their chances to oppose the governments case in public.
Guests:
Chesa Boudin, Executive Director, UC Berkley Criminal Law and Justice Center
Eric Fish, Professor of Law, UC Davis School of Law
Resources:
Contact Chesa
https://www.law.berkeley.edu/our-faculty/faculty-profiles/chesa-boudin/#tab_profile
https://x.com/chesaboudin?lang=en
Contact Eric
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https://law.ucdavis.edu/people/eric-fish
Law Review Article
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5026754
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Today, Hunter is joined by Professor Jacob Charles to discuss the Second Amendment. Since D.C. v Heller in 2008, the Second Amendment transformed from nearly dead letter law to one of the most rapidly changing areas of the Constitution. Jake joins the show to detail that transformation and explain the impacts it is having on our legal system.
Guests:
Jacob Charles, Professor of Law, Pepperdine University Caruso School of Law
Resources:
Contact Jake
https://law.pepperdine.edu/faculty-research/jacob-charles/
https://bsky.app/profile/jacobdcharles.bsky.social
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SSRN
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/cf_dev/AbsByAuth.cfm?per_id=1714457
Heller
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/554/570/
Bruen
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf
Rahimi
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/22-915_8o6b.pdf
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Today, Hunter is joined by Dr. Julie Mack and Randy Papetti to discuss Shaken Baby Syndrome. Also known as Abusive Head Trauma, Shaken Baby Syndrome started out as an untested hypothesis meant to help parents keep their children safe. However, police and prosecutors quickly realized the power SBS had to secure convictions. Since then, dozens of people’s convictions have been overturned as courts around the country realize that SBS is an unfounded, junk science that does not belong in the criminal court room.
Guests:
Dr. Julie Mack, Radiologist
Randy Papetti, Attorney
Resources:
CATO Institute on Shaken Baby Syndrome
https://www.cato.org/events/shaken-baby-syndrome-examining-evidence-shadow-executionRandy’s Book on Shaken Baby Syndrome
https://www.amazon.com/Forensic-Unreliability-Shaken-Baby-Syndrome/dp/0998904333
Feigned Consensus: Usurping the Law in Shaken Baby Syndrome/ Abusive Head Trauma Prosecutions
https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3104&context=articles
Swedish Study on SBS
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28130787/
Robert Roberson
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2023/09/15/texas-shaken-baby-syndrome-baby-death-robert-roberson?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAl4a6BhBqEiwAqvrquptUxczfL4EwGv2aXhKkzhV8LiaHBriGbcdDzCJtXwd7ypeophvb0xoCCckQAvD_BwE
https://www.texastribune.org/2024/10/29/robert-roberson-shaken-baby-texas-death-row-evidence/
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Today, Hunter is joined by Rob Perkins and Dan Eichinger to discuss Public Defense in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. If you’ve listened to the show long enough, then you know that Pennsylvania was one of the last states to provide any funding for Public Defense. While the $7.5 million allocated to support Public Defense is welcome, it is insufficient to account for the decades of underfunding/understaffing in places like Allegheny County. Yet, Dan and Rob believe that with the help of new county leadership, they can finally meet the demands of Gideon in Allegheny County.
Guests:
Rob Perkins, Executive Director, Allegheny Lawyer’s Initiative for Justice
Daniel Eichinger, Program Administrator, Wayne County Indigent Defense Services
Resources:
Allegheny Lawyers Initiative for Justice
https://www.ali4j.org/
Allegheny Public Defender Report
https://www.ali4j.org/research-report-a-path-forward
ACLU Report
https://www.aclupa.org/en/job-left-undone-allegheny-countys-fork-road
2018 Coverage of Public Defense
https://whyy.org/articles/decades-after-landmark-lawsuit-caseload-concerns-continue-in-allegheny-countys-public-defender-office/
Email Rob
During the Episode Dan, mentioned Racial Disparity in Allegheny County. Here is an additional note from him:
RAND_RTI_Final_Report.pdf (pitt.edu)
Additionally, I mentioned that half of all charges filed against Black people arise from a police initiated encounter. My phrasing could have been more precise as the paper refers to charges arising out of "Black neighborhoods" (as opposed to Black people) and I didn't mention the numbers in terms of the disparity between White neighborhoods, so I wanted to make sure your listeners had the exact language from the report:
(Pg. 47 of the report, pg. 91 of the document):
"In particular, charges that are filed in Black neighborhoods are almost equally likely to initiate from either a call for service or a low-priority law enforcement action (30% versus 27%). However, in the White matched neighborhoods, charges are more than twice as likely to originate from a call for service than from a low-priority law enforcement action (38% versus 17%)."
Additionally, the percentage of charges growing out of a police-initiated interaction is likely higher because, as the authors note (pg. 46):
"Thirty-two percent of the cases could not be matched to the 911 call data. As noted in the previous section, these are likely to be instances where law enforcement officers initiated an action but did not call it in. These unmatched cases are thus classified as unidentified law enforcement–initiated actions."
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Today, Hunter is joined by Professor Stephen Bright to discuss his new book, the Fear of Too Much Justice. Over decades of work as an attorney, Steve has been a leading voice against the death penalty and in support of major overhauls to our criminal legal system. Today, Steve joins the show to discuss how the Fear of Too Much Justice is stopping people from reforming our criminal legal system.
Guests:
Stephen Bright, Professor of Law, Yale University School of Law
Resources:
Stephen Bright’s Faculty Page
https://law.yale.edu/stephen-b-bright
Fear of Too Much Justice
https://www.thefearoftoomuchjustice.com/
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Today, Hunter is joined the Editor of the Virginia Defender Newspaper, Phil Wilayto to try and understand a simple question: Why are people incarcerated at Virginia’s Red Onion State Super Max Prison self-immolating just to get transferred to a new prison?
Guests:
Phil Wilayto, Editor, Virginia Defender Newspaper
Resources:
On Saturday, Dec. 7, the Virginia Defenders for Freedom, Justice & Equality will hold a public meeting titled “Crisis at Red Onion Supermax: How you can help!” The meeting will take place at Wesley Memorial United Methodist Church, 1720 Mechanicsville Turnpike, in Richmond’s East End.
https://virginiadefender.org/
For more information, call, or text the Defenders at 804-644-5834 or email [email protected].
Crisis at Red Onion Face Book Page
https://www.facebook.com/events/980796297402417/?acontext=%7B%22event_action_history%22%3A[%7B%22mechanism%22%3A%22your_upcoming_events_unit%22%2C%22surface%22%3A%22bookmark%22%7D]%2C%22ref_notif_type%22%3Anull%7D
More Coverage
https://www.wvtf.org/news/2024-11-12/fearful-prisoners-use-desperate-measures-to-protest
https://www.latintimes.com/dozen-black-inmates-reportedly-attempted-self-immolate-virginia-supermax-prison-escape-566799
https://www.wric.com/news/virginia-news/officials-address-allegations-of-self-inflicted-burnings-by-inmates-at-red-onion-state-prison/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/inmates-red-onion-state-prison-sustain-self-inflicted-burns-protest-rcna182013
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/30/red-onion-state-prison-protest
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/01/us/virginia-prisoners-burns-protest.html
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