Afleveringen
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We document the unimaginable: a meaningless Detroit Lions preseason finale that a) was sold out—even for standing-room-only!—and b) featured a crowd so loud they actually affected the outcome of the game. Then:
(10:10) Did David invent the phrase "going sideways?" Did Marshall invent The Floor is Lava? And the essential quality of bringing yourself present to the moment (16:08) Why MTV's The Real World was must-watch TV (19:56) Parental GPS-tracking interrupts our recording; Marshall recognizes the obscure Meg Ryan 'meet-cute' the situation resembles (24:44) David wants to know: is the Sports Illustrated jinx a thing? (28:50) The real benefit of having been right about these LionsTheme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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David and Marshall discuss:
David's observations of his son's band-camp dance this week—and our own nerve-wracking high-school experiences calling girls we liked; who's playing—and who should be playing—John Madden in the upcoming biopic on his life (08:33); who wins the daily practice battle between superstars Penei Sewell and Aiden Hutchinson (16:51) and why; do you make room on your 53-man roster for a player who's quiet in practice, but shows up big-time on game days? (22:47) is David a human AI? (27:11)Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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Zijn er afleveringen die ontbreken?
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Inspired by the Detroit Lions' reinvention many of us believed would never happen, David and Marshall discuss and debate other successful—and unsuccessful—reinventions in our lifetimes, in entertainment, business and (20:38) sports. Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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David and Marshall discuss what the preseason really means, flash back to when the most popular person in Detroit was our backup quarterback (06:17), and wonder if backup QBs get practice reps with the first-team offense (08:00). Then we ask: when, if ever, should an NFL player choose going down or running out of bounds, versus fighting for an extra yard and risking injury (12:33)? Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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Part 2 of 2. David wonders if our phones are listening to us, tells Marshall how to make their bedroom bats more effective against intruders (07:59), and has an intense reaction to a comment Dan Campbell made to Sports Illustrated (11:38). Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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Part 1 of 2. David and Marshall try to solve a dead-rabbits mystery before they discuss second chances: will the Detroit Lions become only the third NFL team in the last 30 years to lose a conference championship, and come back the next season to win it (18:34)? And…what about second chances in love (29:54)? Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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Part 3 of 3. Heather joins for a fascinating 'offseason' (translation: about our friendship, not football) episode.
Last time, David was rocked when Heather said the phrase "okay, great!" David shares what that moment was like for him (01:17); then Heather explains what was actually going on for her when she said it. Also last episode, when Marshall went inside to get Heather, David speculated about what the two were saying to each other; Heather and Marshall reveal what they were actually saying to each other (12:54).In short: you'll get to see the stories we tell ourselves, and how both a) saying those stories out loud, and also b) responding to the stories with absolute honesty, can create real and deep trust and eliminate misunderstandings. Okay? Great!
Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind"
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Pt. 2 of 3. David and Marshall discuss:
What David said to that know-it-all neighbor about his perennials (01:30) Do Black people need sunscreen? (04:01)Then Heather joins us to resolve hurt feelings from the last time we were at David's house (08:35).
Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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Part 1 of 3. On Father's Day, David and Marshall intend to record an episode on the Lions and reinvention, but this time we get lost in the weeds (pun intended) breaking down Marshall's experience mowing his first-ever lawn earlier this week.
Also discussed:
the transformative power of making your bed; movies that hinge on a 'deadman's brake;' the joys—and occasional letdowns—of slowing things down.Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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Football is essentially over until training camp. But our ongoing conversation continues, without football this week.
We started this season of SHIT2GRIT revisiting the violent tale of Cam Sutton, which apparently occurred when he was dealing with a failed relationship. We've also been talking about all the factors that go into giving a player a 'max' contract, and the lack of coaching players get about turning it off after they've been coached a lifetime to play violently.
Those three takes are the subjects of these three outtakes from conversations past.
In the first (01:45), David and Marshall, after an a '80s and '90s pop-music duets convo, discuss the merits of alluding to violence in movies rather than showing it. Then Heather joins us (19:48) to contemplate the consequences of normalizing violence in children, and the importance of maintaining connection to one's own voice as a child facing violent punishments. We conclude (31:07) with Heather shedding light on what happens to a platonic relationship when one person tries to take it further.Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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Part 3 of 3. Brad Holmes has a proven track record as a GM in every area but one: re-signing his own draft picks. Holmes just gave cornerstone deals to three players: Amon-Ra St. Brown, Penei Sewell and Jared Goff. From Marshall’s perspective, all three cornerstones are not on equal footing. From David’s perspective, Holmes had no choice.
That subject ties our last few episodes together. We recall a multitude of famous figures who’ve had unexpected trajectories in their careers and lives, and ask if there are any true predictors of a person’s future trajectory. We also champion the necessity of direct communication during the heat of battle, and wonder how important communication skills are in determining long-term success.
We also ponder:
Does it matter if someone is just having a bad day? (28:44) Does everyone deserve a second chance? And what if they squander it?Stay tuned after the outro music (45:54), as David waxes passionate on the bizarre name of the episode—cracking Marshall up in the process. Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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Pt. 2 of 3. David sends Marshall an Instagram video of two football players, one expressing frustration with the other's on-field communication. It launches us into a discussion about the nature of communication in high-pressure situations in professional sports.
What's the impact of ego on your ability to listen? Is insensitivity always obvious? Is what we're hearing passion or aggression?Marshall emphasizes the importance of recognizing red flags and troubling patterns, while David considers the possibility of coaching and growth. Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)" | Instagram post: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7CZGTtRXWZ/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
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Part 1 of 3. On our way to a conversation about Brad Holmes, David and Marshall get sidetracked. We reflect on:
our 50th episode; what got Marshall into podcasting and into football; David recalls a phrase from last week that bothered David but resonated for Marshall; what bothered us both about Barry Sanders; an Instagram video about body language and making mistakesIn Part 2, we discuss Brad Holmes having to go all in on something he's never done before: re-sign his own draft picks | Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)
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Part 2 of 2. Chris Perfett of the late Pride of Detroit PODcast finishes his breakdown of the Detroit Lions' 2024 draft. Chris also discusses game theory, his relationship with sports, and what the PODcast journey has meant to him.
Afterwards, David and Marshall debrief how stressful it was keeping up with Perfett's untouchable knowledge base while dealing with David's dying phone, and chat about sushi bars, Seinfeld and the agony of waiting for the 2024 Lions season to start.
(02:00) "Of the three other draft picks, what stands out to you?" (14:38) "Everyone's jumping on this bandwagon now" (22:46) "Could you tell that the Campbell/Holmes regime was different?" (24:07) "The mic is yours…what else do you want to say?" (29:06) "That was quite an experience"Our thanks again to Chris Perfett for his time, honesty and insights | Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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Part 1 of 2. David and Marshall are thrilled to have Chris Perfett, creator and host of the now-defunct Pride of Detroit PODcast, join us to break down the Lions' draft. Covered on Part 1: the draft in the D; Terrion Arnold; Ennis Rakestraw Jr.; the Lions's cornerbacks room; man-mountain Giovanni Manu.
(02:48) "We've suddenly become legit" (08:47) "Guess who's here, David?" (17:30) "Can we start in?"P.S.: Here are all the Seinfeld references:
that lost Seinfeld script "These pretzels are making me thirsty" Kramer in the dojoTheme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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On the weekend before the 2024 NFL draft, and as we get back into the groove of doing the show, David and Marshall reflect on what's changed for us as longtime Lions fans in one calendar year. We discuss:
what it's like to be rooting for a winning Lions culture for the first time ever what makes a culture great what positions we predict Holmes will focus on in the draft what we feel about the alternate uniforms (we disagree—respectfully of course)If you, like us, root for the team in blue, then as David says, it's a fun hang. | Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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In the Season 2 premiere, David and Marshall delve back into the story of former Detroit Lions cornerback Cameron Sutton, who committed a violent crime, fled the scene, and avoided the police for almost a month before turning himself in. We consider the impact of violent jobs on personal relationships, and the essential quality of being able to 'turn it off' after a game. We also explore ways the league might mitigate post-game violence, and speculate on the challenges NFL athletes face in asking for support and managing their anger. We conclude (35:28) by unearthing a little-known potential explanation for why Cam Sutton allegedly committed this violent crime, and why he showed up at the Lions's practice facility as if nothing had happened. Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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Season 1 finale. David and Marshall begin their final convo of the season by talking about running, marathons and punchlines (01:57), 'press on' (you're welcome, David) with acknowledgements of friends of this podcast (05:43), reflect on this season of our show (09:50) and of this remarkable Lions season (17:36), and conclude with a chat from the past that features a hauntingly powerful message for next year's Lions (30:29). | Thank you for listening—see you in March for season 2 | Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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Many OG Detroit Lions fans went negative after the Lions' devastating loss in the NFC Championship game. Not David and Marshall. "It makes me nervous, but that means I should do it" (01:06) | "Younger siblings seem to not rush into stuff" (04:32) | "He looks devastated" (09:54) | "I think Brad Holmes is setting us up for long term success" (13:22) | "You can't find something to be grateful for? Are you f---ing kidding me?" (17:22) | "We're going to the Super Bowl!" (20:13) | "You have to be two things: good and lucky" (21:34) | "I would've run the ball" (23:27) | "My aggressiveness leaves me exposed" (24:44) | "He had the yips. It happens" (25:50) | "We were not being outplayed" (28:21) | "It just slipped out of his hands, I think" (31:02) | "That was a growing point for Campbell" (34:00) | "You're getting me excited again" (35:37) | "Nothing went their way even though they were the better team" (40:57) | "I'll never forget that moment that we had" (42:25) | Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"
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The Detroit Lions now stand one win from the Super Bowl. David raises a glass to toast the playoff victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (01:35); then we discuss TV shows with dark endings, answering machine messages, talking with dads and wrestling with sons (05:40). Next, we consider how unique it is to have a head coach be the face of our NFL franchise (18:07) and wonder what it is that makes people root for teams (25:26). Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)" | Thanks for the transition music to FreeGroove on Pixabay
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