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In this episode, Andrew talks about his upcoming trip to Mexico City, which started as a potential plan to live there but has evolved into a working vacation. Sean talks about recent challenges in his agency, including team members getting sick after conferences and some project misfires with smaller clients.
Andrew then gives an update on the lukewarm progress he's seeing with ChartJuice (complete with raw metrics) and again ponders a freemium pivot. He's grappling with the question - how do you know when to give up on a SaaS product?
They wrap up by debating whether shelling out big bucks for 15 minutes with a big shot is worth it or just a fancy way to burn cash.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/ChartJuice: https://www.chartjuice.com/Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunMiscreants: http://miscreants.com/StackWise: Coming soon...FigTree: Coming soon...For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
Transcript:
00:00:01.34Sean
but what up what up
00:00:02.64
Andrew
Not much, just ah trying to get a full week of work done for the first time in what feels like weeks um in part because I am headed to Mexico City next week.
00:00:09.84
Sean
yeah well
00:00:14.45
Andrew
um And I'll be working from there, but the first week I'm only going to have like two days because um Maddie gets in like midday Thursday.
00:00:14.79
Sean
yeah
00:00:24.72
Andrew
I'm traveling Monday. um We've got plans Friday um and Thursday afternoon. So it's like, yeah, I'm i'm not getting shit done.
00:00:35.69
Sean
are you Are you going, like, is there a reason you're going or are you just going to hang out because you like.
00:00:35.75
Andrew
So.
00:00:41.99
Andrew
um It started with like Maddie and I had kind of talked about like this pipe dream of maybe living in Mexico City one day.
00:00:49.90
Sean
Oh.
00:00:50.25
Andrew
um Part of me really wants to live in a Spanish speaking country at some point um so that I can become properly fluent because I've been taking Spanish lessons um almost every week for the last like year and some change.
00:01:04.58
Sean
OK.
00:01:05.07
Andrew
um and so And I've just always wanted to be fluent in Spanish. So this was kind of supposed to be a test run. It was a goal I set for myself this year. I was like, all right, I'm taking this year off. I'm focusing on startup shit. But I also want to make sure I still get in at least one long backpacking trip, which I did with my dad. And then I want to go to Mexico City for a couple weeks.
00:01:25.52
Sean
Oh yeah.
00:01:25.58
Andrew
um So, um yeah, the plan is to kind of work from there and try to like, try to spend some time.
00:01:37.70
Andrew
We're going to, again, take some days, have some fun, explore, but then also have some days where it's like go to a working space ah and just like live a normal life.
00:01:41.52
Sean
Yeah. Yeah.
00:01:48.19
Andrew
um I think that like the odds of moving to Mexico City are not very high anymore, like it just doesn't feel like it's probably going to fit into like our life plan.
00:02:00.44
Sean
Mm
00:02:00.83
Andrew
um But I think that I um would still strongly consider going for a longer stint at some point.
00:02:03.94
Sean
-hmm.
00:02:10.30
Andrew
So like the school I take lessons from is based in Puebla, which is, like I think, like two hours from Mexico City. So if I like it a lot and you this continues to be a goal, then I might, at some point, go spend a couple months at the school to try to become fluent.
00:02:30.28
Sean
Nice, nice. Have I ever told you that I have a pipe dreamer living in Vegas?
00:02:37.53
Andrew
Yeah, yeah, we've talked about it.
00:02:38.27
Sean
good Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. Because I want to be fluid in losing all my money at the casino.
00:02:42.93
Andrew
yeah
00:02:45.71
Sean
That's cool.
00:02:45.76
Andrew
You just want DEFCON year round, huh?
00:02:48.13
Sean
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. um
00:02:51.19
Andrew
DEFCON's a lot of fun. That sounds awful. DEFCON year round sounds like the worst thing in the world.
00:02:55.66
Sean
You know, there's a new there's a new conference now that's like going to be the new new big thing, um supposedly.
00:02:59.98
Andrew
Really?
00:03:00.66
Sean
Yeah, it goes. It's the Monday right after DEFCON and Black Hat. It's called A.I. 4. It's like the new hotness because it's all like A.I. stuff. It's a corporate event. um
00:03:10.75
Andrew
Hotness outside of cybersecurity.
00:03:12.58
Sean
No, like in in cybersecurity as well.
00:03:15.31
Andrew
But but like it has broader reach than cybersecurity?
00:03:17.72
Sean
I think so. I think so.
00:03:19.29
Andrew
OK.
00:03:19.74
Sean
I think so. I haven't looked so much into it. I just know that, like, yeah. I just know that. Well, my guess is it's going to be like the black hat, but for AI, basically. um
00:03:28.63
Andrew
What was the old hotness?
00:03:30.68
Sean
Black hat.
00:03:32.12
Andrew
But like outside of cybersecurity, what was the old hotness?
00:03:32.46
Sean
Black hat artist thing. Oh, I have no idea. I don't know.
00:03:35.77
Andrew
Yeah.
00:03:36.17
Sean
ah yeah um Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:37.85
Andrew
Not your job.
00:03:41.49
Sean
Not my area of expertise. um That's cool. I didn't know you were taking Spanish lessons lesss that regularly. I had no idea.
00:03:50.11
Andrew
Yeah, although I actually haven't taken a lesson in like the past three weeks be...
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In this episode, Sean gives a recap on shirt sales, his annual Korean BBQ dinner, and more from DEF CON. Andrew shares some feedback he got from the client project he's been working on, and dives into the early results he's seeing from running Google Ads for ChartJuice. Andrew reveals his latest mile times from his half marathon training, and the guys talk about how much impact you could make in congressional elections with some basic digital marketing chops.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/ChartJuice: https://www.chartjuice.com/Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunMiscreants: http://miscreants.com/StackWise: Coming soon...FigTree: Coming soon...For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
Transcript:
00:00:00.75Sean
What up, what up? Long time no see.
00:00:02.71
Andrew
Yeah, how's it going? Can't wait to hear all about Defcon.
00:00:07.02
Sean
Good. I can't wait to tell you all about DEFCON. A little sniffly. Definitely have conflu.
00:00:14.04
Andrew
Concrud.
00:00:14.49
Sean
Yeah, a couple friends. A couple friends I've also got in COVID. There's, I think, all that stuff.
00:00:19.25
Andrew
Ouch.
00:00:20.33
Sean
um I'll test again later. So far, so good. But ah yeah, we'll see. um Yeah, yeah, it's been, it's been hectic.
00:00:31.74
Sean
Got back yesterday at 5am because my plane got delayed, and that was brutal. But it's the first time I've ever used my priority pass for a lounge. So that was kind of cool. um But before we get into Defcon, what have you been up to?
00:00:43.45
Andrew
pun What?
00:00:45.64
Sean
What's been, what's been going on?
00:00:47.21
Andrew
what No, no, no, no, no. We got to start with Defcon.
00:00:48.83
Sean
Okay.
00:00:49.58
Andrew
and Defcon is is the big news here.
00:00:50.65
Sean
All right, fine.
00:00:51.69
Andrew
I've got i've got some some little tattoo stuff to talk about, but ah yeah no you I want to start with Defcon.
00:00:54.82
Sean
Okay.
00:00:58.31
Andrew
and
00:00:58.87
Sean
All right, okay, fine, fine, fine, fine. Defend was good, Black Hat was good, Black, I'll start with the Black Hat. I went to the, shout out to Lucas Nelson, and he handed me to the Investors and Innovators Summit. um So first I'm going to like a summit at Black Hat.
00:01:14.64
Sean
um
00:01:14.94
Andrew
Huh.
00:01:15.56
Sean
ah ah like I got to go that to that basically like for free which is cool and so I just decided not to pay for an expo pass this year terrible idea by the way like I really want to pay for an expo pass it's 800 bucks and like I don't really like it's not like I go for sales so I kind of just go to meet our clients but probably should have paid a hundred bucks to just go like like go to a booth
00:01:25.56
Andrew
Oh no.
00:01:37.19
Andrew
Why? Why do you say that?
00:01:39.28
Sean
Um, I think I felt, okay, one, I think I felt a little bit of FOMO not seeing stuff at Black Hat and the expo floor. Um, I mean, in part didn't have like that much time to walk the floor.
00:01:53.41
Sean
Definitely met people outside of the expo floor. So it was fine overall. I think it was just felt very weird not to like go do the whole expo thing that I always done every year. Um,
00:02:05.12
Andrew
You all have never set up like a booth at Black Hat, have you?
00:02:08.15
Sean
No, not for us, only for our clients.
00:02:08.79
Andrew
Yeah.
00:02:10.64
Sean
um But I think it's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we would never we would never like be black hat booth wise, that would be, actually, that would be very, very interesting.
00:02:10.67
Andrew
Yeah. That shit is expensive, right?
00:02:18.97
Andrew
Yeah.
00:02:21.00
Sean
I don't think black hat would ever let us do that, now that I think of that.
00:02:22.17
Andrew
Oh really?
00:02:24.51
Sean
I mean, we're not a security vendor, so it'd be very weird to do it.
00:02:26.65
Andrew
Hmm.
00:02:29.87
Sean
I don't know, it'd be weird. i like That's not that's not like a terrible idea. actually it'd be very interesting i wonder if there's something we could do there but anyway we like uh uh i didn't get to wander it which means i didn't get to like i think i think one of the things i missed out on and what's kind of sad about it is i didn't get to get them i didn't get to go pick up merchandise that we made for our clients that they printed and that was probably the biggest thing i was bummed out about
00:02:51.17
Andrew
Hmm.
00:02:56.29
Sean
Uh, but the innovator summit was super cool.
00:02:56.53
Andrew
That's a bummer.
00:02:59.57
Sean
Uh, shout out to Mike Privet and Ross. Uh, you know, they were, they were both on a panel together. That was super good.
00:03:04.65
Andrew
Cool.
00:03:06.02
Sean
Um, um, and that was fun. Def Con was Oh, so very fun. A lot of good pictures. We ah including me brought six people out this year.
00:03:15.41
Andrew
Tick.
00:03:19.17
Sean
um More like extended team members rather than like team core team members. It's been kind of like extended team members slash friends basically coming to help.
00:03:30.92
Sean
It's just a lot cheaper than flying out our design staff um from from a like
00:03:37.44
Andrew
Oh, because so that design staff can keep like doing design work for clients.
00:03:41.34
Sean
doing yeah yeah um yeah exactly um which is like i don't know it's something i like it's something it's been always the biggest issue of this like agency plus merchandise model right they're two separate businesses so flying out on...
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Sean is exhausted because he has so many inbound emails from prospective clients he doesn't have time to answer them all. Meanwhile, Andrew is trying to buckle down and get Stripe built into ChartJuice so he can start advertising and collecting payments. Sean and Andrew talk about how the consulting project is going, and Sean has to rain Andrew in as he contemplates repositioning ChartJuice again. As a bonus, find out how fast Andrew can run a mile and why he needs to run faster.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/ChartJuice: https://www.chartjuice.com/Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunMiscreants: http://miscreants.com/StackWise: Coming soon...FigTree: Coming soon...For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
Transcript:
00:00.90Andrew
What's up, friend?
00:00.81
Sean
Not so much. How are you?
00:04.17
Andrew
Good, we haven't talked other than Slack in like two weeks.
00:07.87
Sean
Yeah. You've been traveling.
00:11.38
Andrew
Yeah.
00:11.84
Sean
How have your trips been multiple?
00:14.99
Andrew
um Montana is fucking beautiful. Oh my god. um Glacier in particular is stunning. Was there for a friend's wedding. um And then I think right before that, my sister was in town visiting. Have we talked since then? I can't remember.
00:34.15
Sean
we talked i think i think the last time we talked was the day you i think you went to pick up your sister from the airport or yeah something like that yeah yes
00:42.08
Andrew
Okay. Cool. Cool. Yeah. So, okay. Great. Time makes no sense, but that was the week before. And then there was a week. I think. I don't know. Anyway, my sister came to visit. That was a blast. It was great to see her. Got to meet her new boyfriend. So that was fun. And then went to Glacier for one of my best friend's weddings. His name is Alex. His now wife's name is also Alex. So that was very entertaining.
01:15.17
Andrew
um We love her. We've known her for a long time. It's kind of the novelty is kind of worn off, to be honest, but but she is taking his name.
01:21.51
Sean
Got it.
01:24.95
Andrew
So they are going to be Alex Drake and Alex Drake, which is like absurd. Um, but we did a lot of hiking, did some white water rafting. Um, I saw, uh, mountain goats and big horn sheep. Um, and yeah, Glacier is just absolutely stunning. I, it reminded me that like, there's so much of this country that I have not seen that I want to see. Um, so I think next year I might. Maddie and I might make it a point to do like some sort of national park road trip or something, but we'll see.
02:04.04
Sean
nice um i've always dreamed of just going and like driving to go cross-country trip in either like an rv or just with multiple motels and just driving around and staying like a like 52 weeks in 50 52 weeks in 52 states something like that and then you're right sorry it's been a long it's been a long since you've been gone it's been a war zone here
02:18.26
Andrew
There are 50 states, but
02:31.01
Andrew
Oh no, what's happening? Why are you so tired?
02:36.01
Sean
um i count california as two states just for the record and porta rico just just before but i'm not yeah i am not smarter than a fifth grader for what it's worth so um anyway uh i don't know just like you
02:43.80
Andrew
Puerto Rico should be a state, but yeah.
02:55.44
Sean
and You know that thing where they're like, you'll know when you have product market fixed or bang on your door. It's like, have feeling like you have service market fit and people are banging on my door and we say yes to things. and We say no to some things, but like whenever, you know, just, we have a lot of clients and I don't have, we have.
03:12.22
Andrew
I understand.
03:17.00
Sean
Barely amount the amount of people to get all of it done with all the things that are going on.
03:20.77
Andrew
Yeah.
03:23.63
Sean
um um
03:26.14
Andrew
So you're in, you're fully in one of the agency peaks where there's just like too much work and you're happy that there's too much work.
03:34.68
Sean
Yeah.
03:36.60
Andrew
So you're finally not stressed about like paying the bills and making ends meet, but instead that's replaced with doing the work and making sure the work is done to a high standard because, you know, when there's lots of work to go around, it's easy for things to slip through the cracks and yeah.
03:42.32
Sean
Right.
03:49.41
Sean
Yeah. Yeah.
03:52.74
Sean
Yeah. But there's more money in our bank account than ever.
03:54.51
Andrew
Yeah.
03:56.04
Sean
So, you know, that's, that's really cool.
03:59.49
Andrew
Yeah, it really is.
03:59.93
Sean
Um, yeah.
04:00.84
Andrew
This is the thing about agencies is it does feel like you're always trading one type of stress for another. It's either you're like, fuck, I need to find clients. Or it's like, fuck, I need to get this work done for clients. um
04:13.50
Sean
Yeah. I do really think like,
04:18.39
Sean
Like I think I think creative agencies also like creative service providers are also an extra level of like because it's objectives right it's not like I have a friend who runs an MSP or an it's MSP sort of shop, but it's very like those that sort of work is very like oh you get the green checkmark because because the scanner no longer detects an issue so you're good, it's good to go.
04:41.89
Andrew
Yeah, the flip side is like people don't usually call us in the middle of the night because they're like design got hacked into.
04:41.82
Sean
you can like
04:48.71
Sean
You're right. You're right. You're right.
04:50.45
Andrew
So that's, that's like, Oh yeah, that's.
04:50.52
Sean
We do manage websites. We do. Weflo did go down the other day, and that was my nice slide blew the fuck up.
04:54.91
Andrew
hu
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Season 2: Episode 5
In this episode Sean talks about being buried in client work at Miscreants and how to design trendy clothing that gets people hyped. Meanwhile, Andrew talks about making slow progress on ChartJuice and trying to fight the temptation to become an SEO content goblin.Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/ChartJuice: https://www.chartjuice.com/Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunMiscreants: http://miscreants.com/StackWise: Coming soon...Cider: Coming soon...For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
Transcript:
00:02.21Sean
So where are you up to? You're late.
00:04.34
Andrew
Uh, I was, I'm so behind on writing my newsletter for this month. Um,
00:11.16
Sean
Because you're not using AI to help you anymore.
00:14.65
Andrew
Dick.
00:15.61
Sean
Sorry, sorry.
00:16.52
Andrew
Um, yeah, I just like, honestly I've been busy with, uh, with consulting work for somebody. I think that's, that's what I'm going to blame it on.
00:26.47
Sean
i it is his fault i would blame it on him as well he's made a lot of poor decisions recently we player
00:34.31
Andrew
Yeah, I've been busy with consulting work and then we were like, um we were up north for ah the fourth for a week. um And so there was like a day where I thought about trying to write it there. We had kind of a rainy day and I was like, I'm just going to fuck around on my phone and read a book instead.
00:49.38
Sean
I, it is his fault.
00:53.84
Andrew
um Which was a choice I don't really regret, but now I'm like,
00:55.16
Sean
I would blame it on him as well. He's made a lot of poor decisions recently.
00:59.72
Andrew
uh like two weeks behind getting a newsletter out so trying to trying to get a piece written about how I validated church use and like just how I got to the point where I was willing to make the investment in the initial MVP because when I say validated I don't know if the product is going to work yet we're a ways off from that but
01:07.48
Sean
Cool.
01:24.03
Andrew
validated it enough to have confidence building an MVP.
01:27.50
Sean
Cool.
01:27.60
Andrew
So writing an essay about that and then ah need to put together like the newsletter portion with some links and stuff. But yeah, completely lost track of time. I did the thing I do where I like procrastinated for 30 minutes and then started writing again 30 minutes before our podcast and then looked up and it was like four twelve and we were supposed to start at four o'clock. So
01:50.67
Sean
I do find that like that level of like crunch time is what really snaps me into flow real quick.
01:55.08
Andrew
Oh, absolutely.
01:56.39
Sean
Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad. I'm glad we could do that for you.
02:01.80
Andrew
Honestly, like, that's part of why we wanted to start the podcast again, right?
02:05.41
Sean
For sure.
02:05.71
Andrew
Or at least for me, I i needed, like, I need some social forcing functions to make me do shit.
02:07.01
Sean
Yeah.
02:13.01
Sean
Yeah. Yeah.
02:14.19
Andrew
If I have to give you an update every week, then I have to have an update every week.
02:14.27
Sean
hundred
02:20.36
Sean
Yeah. I mean, like you tweeted out something about us writing and I was like, fuck. And I started writing. I haven't done it last week, but ah since like, since you tweeted about it, but it at least like made me attempt to put words to the paper for a couple of days. So that was pretty cool.
02:38.93
Andrew
Nice. Yeah, we got to actually we got to decide on an actual an actual bet or something. But I don't want to do that right the second because I have too many other things I'm trying to do right this second.
02:46.30
Sean
Yeah.
02:52.07
Sean
For sure.
02:52.29
Andrew
I'm like, I don't want to take on a writing bet.
02:54.63
Sean
ah sure
02:55.72
Andrew
Maybe maybe in a ah month or two.
02:59.59
Sean
um How's your trip by the way, you went through a cabin.
03:03.82
Andrew
Yeah, Trip was great. um My girlfriend's aunt and uncle have this amazing place on Drummond Island, which is this cool island off the tip of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. If anyone listening has never been to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, which you probably haven't because most people haven't, it's like one of the most beautiful parts of the entire country. like i didn't really hear about it until I came here and moved to Detroit. And now it's one of my favorite places in the world. It's so fucking beautiful. The Great Lakes are like
03:38.57
Andrew
turquoise blue. theres The trees feel like you're in the Pacific Northwest, um but the weather is way better than the Pacific Northwest. It's chilly enough in the middle of July that you need like a sweatshirt and jeans at night, um but it's warm enough to swim during the day.
03:53.37
Sean
whoa
03:57.01
Andrew
It's it's a magical place.
03:57.65
Sean
Whoa.
03:59.70
Andrew
um And I felt like a ah true digital nomad because I had I felt like I had perfected my my um transportable work setup. I had my laptop. my iPad, which they have made iPad mirroring so good and so easy now.
04:17.24
Sean
Yeah.
04:18.21
Andrew
I haven't used it in years, but it's like it's great now.
04:18.30
Sean
Yeah.
04:21.49
Andrew
And then I was using Starlink at Maddie's aunt and uncle's place. And the so the Wi-Fi was great. And I was just like, holy shit, with like that new Starlink Mini, you could have an amazing multi-screen set up that you could put in a backpack and it would be light as hell.
04:42.70
Sean
I thought a lot about what you said about the Starlink this weekend, by th...
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Season 2: Episode 4
Did you know AI really loves the word delve? Sean and Andrew can't help starting the pod off with a little more AI talk. Then they get into Sean's new product he's working on. Meanwhile Andrew is putting aside his IDE and starting to shift his focus to marketing and selling ChartJuice. He talks about using Flow.club to focus and setting a goal of doing two hours of deep work every day. Sean asks Andrew if he would sell ChartJuice if someone made him an offer tomorrow. And Sean and Andrew talk about working together on a new client project!
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/ChartJuice: https://www.chartjuice.com/Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunMiscreants: http://miscreants.com/StackWise: Coming soon...Cider: Coming soon...For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
Transcript:
00:00.77Sean
What's up? What's up? How you doing?
00:03.03
Andrew
Not bad. What happened to our theme music? I thought you were supposed to be coming in every week with a new theme song.
00:09.35
Sean
So, you know, it's actually a little bit harder to use. than i Yeah.
00:14.64
Andrew
Isn't this the classic story of all of these AI tools is it's like, it seems great at first glance. And then you start trying to really use it for something and you start going, oh, this is so much work to get out of this, what I want to get out of it.
00:28.82
Sean
Yeah, 100%. I think like it doesn't have it doesn't have the levers I would want. you know I can't like dial a voice. I can't like switch. I have to use a prompt to change. like Do I want a male singer or a female singer? Do I want it to be you know louder here? I can't i can't say like I want to be louder here or different here. I feel like that.
00:49.46
Andrew
You need a cringe dial. Let me crank the cringe all the way down to zero.
00:51.24
Sean
Yeah. Yeah, i don't think i don't the thing is AI doesn't know what that is, which is crazy.
00:55.60
Andrew
AI doesn't understand cringe. AI is by default cringe. That's that's why we still have jobs.
00:58.85
Sean
You know?
01:01.89
Sean
um I've been looking at some other AI things and God.
01:07.62
Sean
which AI really likes the word Delve. Did you know that?
01:10.59
Andrew
Oh, interesting. I have not noticed that.
01:11.63
Sean
Yeah. I think Paul Graham had a tweet or something to say like that's like the one of the biggest indicators that someone's seeing AI and they never saw it and then until I finally like um I was pulling a transcription out and then trying to get a summary just to see how any of that works and the amount of times it uses Delve is astounding and
01:31.86
Andrew
That's fascinating.
01:32.63
Sean
There's nothing I can't, i you know, once it's like a wrapper around whatever sort of AI tool, I can't tell it to, you know, at that point, I can't even change the prompt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um.
01:42.85
Andrew
By the way, I really want to try out a couple of different transcription tools to see if any any of them can do a better job with our voices because Zincaster is not terrible, but it's a little bit of a mess.
01:45.78
Sean
Hmm.
01:57.05
Sean
Hmm.
01:57.49
Andrew
I do think the, Post edit transcription is usually better.
02:03.85
Sean
Mm-hmm.
02:04.19
Andrew
like I see a pretty noticeable improvement from pre-edit and post-edit, so that's kind of interesting.
02:06.81
Sean
Mm-hmm.
02:09.69
Andrew
But I'm really curious, like what if Podscan actually has the best the best transcriptions?
02:10.71
Sean
Maybe.
02:14.46
Sean
maybe
02:15.85
Andrew
Or yeah know maybe Transistor's new transcription tool will be better because that's all they're doing?
02:16.09
Sean
Maybe.
02:21.50
Sean
Yeah.
02:25.24
Andrew
I don't know.
02:25.29
Sean
Is there a job to be good at that?
02:27.00
Andrew
Yeah, I guess it's Zincaster's job to get that right as much as Transistor's job. but um It might even be the same person powering both.
02:31.87
Sean
Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Um,
02:37.63
Andrew
It might be the same tool under the hood.
02:39.95
Sean
um
02:40.45
Andrew
That would be funny.
02:40.75
Sean
so, so this podcast, uh, for a client, I was running it through, I tried swell AI by, I don't remember his last name, Cody something, um. The draft horse, now he's doing swell, um and I tried to script again. um Interestingly, I don't know what's going on with swell, but like so far, that's the best transcript I got back. um Yeah, so that's pretty good. um Okay, no, no, no, no.
03:08.87
Andrew
I also saw every, do you know them? ah Nathan used to be Bashaw and now I think it's Basquez. He was at Product Hunt and then at Gimlet and um then I think co-founded every with
03:25.58
Sean
Cool.
03:31.51
Andrew
Dan Schipler, if that, I might have that name right. It's kind of interesting. They were doing bundled newsletters. So taking different newsletter creators and creating a unified brand for them to publish under and then offering a bundled price where the creators split the revenue and they're now taking.
03:43.65
Sean
Cool.
03:47.29
Sean
cool
03:52.41
Andrew
that bundle concept to a new extreme and launching software products. And the only way to pay for their software products is by buying a bundle, a subscription to every. So for one price, you get access to all of their newsletters and their software products. And their first one was Lex, an AI powered document editor where you could
04:18.67
Sean
Okay. You use that, yeah.
04:22.06
Andrew
I, yeah, I've used it a little bit. It's, it's pretty nifty. And then it se...
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Season 2: Episode 3
It's a Small Efforts Double Header! We were late getting this episode out, so we decided to go ahead and publish two weeks of episodes at once. In this episode Andrew is coming straight from a tattoo session, and talks about fighting bugs with ChartJuice. Meanwhile, Sean has gotten over 300 APPLICATIONS to his open job post, almost all from Dribbble. And he previews the consumer SaaS/community he's building on the side. Andrew and Sean discuss the strategy behind the new ConvertKit rebrand, and finally debate whether AI-generated book notes can be a good growth strategy for Andrew's personal blog.
Differences between serverless functions and edge functions according to Claude:
Execution Location: Serverless functions run on the cloud provider's servers centralized in large data centers, while edge functions run on edge servers distributed across multiple locations closer to the user.Latency: Edge functions have lower latency compared to serverless functions due to their proximity to the user.Scalability and resource constraints: Serverless functions scale automatically based on demand, while edge functions have a more limited scalability. Edge servers generally have less compute power and storage compared to cloud servers.Use Cases: Serverless functions are better suited for compute-intensive tasks, while edge functions are more efficient for data processing and content delivery near the user.Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/ChartJuice: https://www.chartjuice.com/Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunMiscreants: http://miscreants.com/StackWise: Coming soon...For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
Transcript:
00:00:00.69Sean
What's up?
00:00:02.02
Andrew
Not much, just got back from a little tattoo session, got some fresh ink.
00:00:06.48
Sean
Very cool. What did what you get?
00:00:08.97
Andrew
Uh, got a piece of flash. So I was at a fundraiser for, um, a friend's, a friend was organizing the fundraiser. He's part of this group called prism, um, that raises money to support, uh, GSAs in schools, which used to stand for gay straight alliances.
00:00:19.32
Sean
Cool.
00:00:27.96
Andrew
Now I think stand for gender sexuality alliances.
00:00:31.21
Sean
Okay.
00:00:31.48
Andrew
Um, so he's part of this group prism. They were doing a fundraiser and they had a raffle as part of the fundraiser.
00:00:38.18
Sean
Hmm.
00:00:38.43
Andrew
And they were raffling off three flash tattoos. Um, so it was like a design and you could put. ticket in, and if you won, you would get that tattoo. And um I like two of them. And so I put a ticket in each one and was like, well, let fate decide. And I got picked. And so I went and got this cool vase with, it's like kind of an abstract vase with monstera leaves sticking out.
00:01:04.13
Sean
Yeah.
00:01:06.90
Andrew
And it's my first leg tattoo, got it on my thigh. um it will be very visible when I wear shorts.
00:01:14.20
Sean
Hell yeah.
00:01:14.51
Andrew
um So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:15.18
Sean
Five inch the blue velvet shorts.
00:01:18.18
Andrew
When I wear my short shorts, which is all I wear.
00:01:19.60
Sean
Nice.
00:01:20.58
Andrew
So, um yeah, I'm pretty into it.
00:01:20.75
Sean
Nice.
00:01:23.87
Andrew
It was cool. This was my first, I guess it was my second flash tattoo. um But the artist, she was great. Her name was Ali Gostella, I think. Super chill, super welcoming, had a great time, made the experience fantastic.
00:01:40.32
Sean
Hmm.
00:01:41.67
Andrew
And one of the cool parts was she really was stoked about this design, which was so much fun because she was having fun tattooing it and was really hyped and excited about it. And that made it more fun and made me more excited about getting it. And so it was just like just good energy.
00:01:55.53
Sean
Nice.
00:01:58.07
Sean
I like it. Congrats.
00:01:59.08
Andrew
Yeah.
00:01:59.96
Sean
Yeah, congrats on waiting.
00:02:01.33
Andrew
Thanks. I'm I'm stoked. i'm I'm really excited about it.
00:02:04.48
Sean
Cool.
00:02:04.66
Andrew
I will show you after the podcast because it will not get podcast content.
00:02:08.82
Sean
That's true. That's true. We are, we are not a video podcast yet. We tried, but yeah.
00:02:13.67
Andrew
We can be. I guess whenever we just got to commit to doing another thing, which is not like us.
00:02:18.46
Sean
Yeah.
00:02:21.08
Andrew
Well, and is also like us. You know what I mean?
00:02:23.70
Sean
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. For sure.
00:02:26.97
Andrew
Yeah. So what's up with you?
00:02:29.04
Sean
Um, last week was brutal. Last week was a couple, a couple of our folks are out on like PTO and then some folks got sick.
00:02:31.81
Andrew
Yeah.
00:02:36.01
Sean
Um, uh, yeah. Uh, so I didn't sleep much and that was, that was exciting, but we're back to it.
00:02:44.58
Andrew
Oh, that's rough.
00:02:45.14
Sean
You know, I'm on eight hours, so extra energetic today. Um, I mean, Oh,
00:02:52.52
Andrew
How is hiring going?
00:02:55.23
Sean
dribble is not dead.
00:02:56.62
Andrew
Oh, really?
00:02:56.72
Sean
dribble not that hot take dribble like yeah yeah hiring our type form
00:03:00.41
Andrew
For hiring designers specifically? Yeah.
00:03:06.01
Sean
So we were going to do we're going to do like an online, we're going to put a form on our website at first and then I was like, I don't i ...
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Season 2: Episode 2
It's a Small Efforts Double Header! We were late getting this episode out, so we decided to go ahead and publish two weeks of episodes at once. In this episode Andrew talks about quietly pushing ChartJuice live, and raves about his new favorite podcast. Meanwhile Sean drops some knowledge about the intricacies of swag supply chains, and the guys discuss the trap of being an expert beginner vs a true expert. Finally, Sean talk about a leadership retreat he's going on soon.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/ChartJuice: https://www.chartjuice.com/Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunMiscreants: http://miscreants.com/For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
Transcript:
00:00.00Sean Sun
Yeah, hey doing sorry late.
00:00.64
Andrew
All good man I've just been over here sipping on my in Zony Happy as can be.
00:06.41
Sean Sun
Ah, there you good there Good How's your week been. What's you been up to.
00:13.49
Andrew
Um, not a bad week. Um, let's see I haven't been hella productive this week but I've been making steady progress. So um.
00:29.64
Andrew
Think this happened after last week's pod. Um, so I sent out chart juice for feedback to a small group of friends you um, awesome price Greg um, handful of people and.
00:49.48
Andrew
My friends are super generous and so a bunch of people took the time to create an account and give me some feedback and a lot of feedback I got was like hey this is cool. Um, you know Austin understandably spent a bunch time on the ux and was like hey you know you should left a line. Your text anytime you have more than a line or two because it becomes harder to read when it's center aligned and I was like dope didn't know that that's a really helpful rule of thumb. Thanks for telling me um and then like Greg um in very Greg fashion pointed out. Hey on the signup form you should really have a couple of statements about the value props and like what people are going to get out of this to help encourage them to finish the signup process which is very Greg always thinking from the perspective of the user and thinking about like how do we optimize this. Um, so that was super helpful. My friend Kevin who is one of the original partners in crit and a super talented engineer took a very engineer's approach to it and he was like hey just so you know if you put in a ah. Width of greater than a hundred thousand pixels it breaks and I was like cool I don't care and like he obviously knew I wouldn't care but you know took took a very engineer approach to it and.
02:09.31
Sean Sun
Yeah, yeah.
02:19.44
Sean Sun
Um, yeah.
02:21.86
Andrew
Ah, like looked for the edge cases the weird extreme edge cases. The other one was like if you add more than 21 elements to a pie chart then the legend gets really wonky like create. Um, so.
02:39.40
Sean Sun
I think that's a hold on I just want to point out I don't think I think that's a feature not a bug I think no one should be adding 21 elements to a pie chart like a pizza doesn't have 21 slices yeah um
02:41.61
Andrew
Yeah.
02:49.77
Andrew
I Love it? Yeah yeah, yeah, we we intentionally make your chart look like shit past a certain point because like why stop.
02:56.87
Sean Sun
Right? right? Exactly There's a hidden feature that if you make it look like it'll all turn brown and.
03:03.80
Andrew
I mean the good thing to do would be if you use more than 8 elements or something in your pie chart. We just automatically start combining the smallest ones that would be nifty but um, but my favorite piece of advice came from my friend ramy um, who is an indie hacker.
03:13.12
Sean Sun
Um.
03:21.69
Andrew
Um, based out of the Uk and repeat founder has a few successful small products under his belt and his advice was basically good enough ship it and I was like that's you're so fucking right? so.
03:33.50
Sean Sun
Nice.
03:41.60
Andrew
Um, yeah, the first half of this week was shipping it so chart juice is now technically live I'm calling it a soft launch because I haven't really talked about it being live much at all yet I'm not being super public about it. Um I just linked up.
03:46.26
Sean Sun
Um, okay, um.
04:00.70
Andrew
The buttons on the marketing website to the actual app so that you can get to the app from the marketing website and then I made some small updates yesterday to the marketing website adding screenshots and a little bit more information about how it how it works. To try to make it a little bit clear what the product does because I had several people like hit the marketing website and go so is this like chart Js for emails and I was like I mean kind of but it's like a layer above that. Um, so I added some some screenshots and like a little bit more information without. While trying not to change too much because I still want to test kind of that original marketing copy and see how well it works. Um, but yeah, so chart juice is now live I am spending the rest of this week focused on trying to get billing working. Um, so i.
04:45.97
Sean Sun
Um, right.
04:57.83
Andrew
If you go sign up for an account right now it is free until I get billing implemented um and once I get billing implemented I'll I'll find some way to grandfather in any existing accounts with like an extra long free trial Probably um.
05:11.20
Sean Sun
Right? right? So Andrew's giving away lifetime access to anyone who signs up right now.
05:16.66
Andrew
Andrew's giving away short to your mas if your life only you know continues for another three or four weeks then yeah lifetime access.
05:25.31
Sean Sun
If you plan on dying soon. Sign up for George ah, that's the ad there you go is converting ad.
05:31.90
Andrew
Ah, perfect ship it so working on getting billing um, integrated which I've just been dragging my feet a little bit. It's just boring. It's like it's standard. Ah. Stuff I Just got to hook up some webhooks and Yada Yada Um, and then the other thing I need to do that's kind of important is I need to actually test using our embed code in a transactional email which is like somewhat. Hard to do since I don't have an existing Saas product with existing data. Um, So yeah, I'll just I'll probably just fudge the data. But um I need to send out some test emails. Um, and then I want to record a demo video of like the entire end-to-end process.
06:24.35
Sean Sun
Right...
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Andrew and Sean are back for Season 2! In Season 2 they'll get transparent about the highs and lows of building their businesses (with plenty of goofing around too). Same concept, new businesses.
In this episode we recap WHERE THE HELL WE'VE BEEN FOR TWO YEARS. Plus we talk about the projects we're working on now, how to market and validate Andrew's new startup, and Sean's search for founder friends.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/ChartJuice: https://www.chartjuice.com/Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunMiscreants: http://miscreants.com/For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
Transcript:
00:00.73
Sean
All right? don't scream this time. Maybe I'll cut that front part out. Um, okay, take 4 episode 1 season 2 small efforts like no see oh yeah, me too.00:11.35
Andrew
Ah, but what's up man Glad to be back. Ah back on the pod with you.00:18.76
Sean
Too I'm excited to be doing this again. It's been a fun 6 ones of a dry run. Um, so ah.00:22.92
Andrew
It wouldn't be us if we didn't record for six months and then finally describe decide to scrap all of those recordings and just say fuck it. Let's go live or as close to live as we can get.00:32.53
Sean
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's literally how I've built the michigans website every single iteration actually I spent months on it and then I'm like fuck. And I just do it in the black in my hotel room right? before blackhead starts in a day like yeah, good enough I don't care if it's not perfect. Um, what's been going on. Why have we disappeared what happened you know what happened to season 1 I'm sure everyone wants to know.01:02.54
Andrew
Ah, yeah, um, yeah, it's been 2 years almost to the day like pretty close to it. So um, we were running the podcast before and had set it up in a way to be like.01:05.75
Sean
Our 11 listeners.01:22.00
Andrew
Fairly highly highly produced and um in a way that required as little involvement from us after recording as possible so we had an awesome producer and an editing team who would take care of everything for us. Um, but that also meant it was. A little bit expensive to create um and then I went and sold my business and that meant that half of our funding disappeared. So I sold crit almost two years ago exactly um, sold the company to.01:47.45
Sean
Hell yeah, a girl. Yeah, he did.01:58.77
Andrew
Of our longtime clients grayyno which was an awesome experience. I still haven't really written about the experience of going through this sale process. It might be hard to do now I've I'm sure I've already forgotten a lot. Um, but it was it was a really. Really fascinating experience to go through I think our sale was really pretty easy and pretty fast compared to a lot of people because we already knew each other really well um, and structured it in a way that that due diligence was pretty simple. So um, yeah, sold crit two years ago02:23.90
Sean
A 502:36.57
Andrew
Then went to work at graynoy for a year um so learned a ton in that time about security and technology and what it's like to be part of a larger team as hilarious as it is a 50 person team is like by far the biggest team I'd ever been a part of.02:53.75
Sean
Yeah.02:55.78
Andrew
Um, and ah learned about management and it was like a year of speed learning. Um, it was really interesting. Had a lot of fun. Um, and then ultimately got fired which was kind of. Ah, shock and kind of not a shock. Um, ultimately I think it just wasn't as good a fit on either side as either of us were were hoping for um, still have a ton of friends there and still am rooting for them all to be successful. Um, you know it's funny I've mentioned that I got fired to. Entrepreneur friends and to like non-onpreneur friends and non-onreneur friends are generally like oh my god are you? okay like what's ah, what's wrong. What can I do to help and then all my entrepreneur friends are like yeah I kind of expected that we're just ah.03:46.18
Sean
Yeah, yeah, it makes sense.03:52.10
Andrew
I Guess once you're like an entrepreneur through in through you kind of become unhireable but not in the way you thought just unhireable in the sense that like you become a bad employee or don't want to don't want to work for anyone? Um, so um.03:56.64
Sean
Um, yeah, yeah.04:00.33
Sean
Yeah, yeah.04:10.71
Andrew
Yeah, shocking and not a shock. Um, but ultimately like 2 really good things came out of bad experience which were um one when I was at crit my fear. The thing that kept me up at night. Was often this idea of like what if our clients all disappear and we run out of money and we have to lay off the entire team that was like the failure mode that that was constantly eating away at me constantly like this pit of stress in the middle of my stomach. Um, and then once I sold the company and joined grey noise. Thought that fear would go away. It didn't it just morphed and the new fear. The new failure mode was what if I get fired. Um, and so when I ultimately did it was this kind of positive forcing function to face this deep fear of failure that I had. Um, and you know went through it and was like oh shit I'm okay and the people around me don't actually think any worse of me. In fact, they all are being super supportive and kind and like are very understanding and and then I had time to make a podcast to get.05:20.70
Sean
So yeah, and then you had time to do a podcast again. So it's been great.05:28.17
Andrew
Um, and and that actually was the second positive thing. So the the second really positive thing was that it gave me the nudge to take a long extended sabbatical. Um, so after that I went and fulfilled a lifelong dream and walked across Spain on the camino de santiago. Um. Spent two months over in Europe um, that was incredible I've written about that on my on my website a little bithitteraskins dot com um, and then I I came back from that and had time to sit down and just think about what I really wanted to do and um. Decided that I wanted to get back into startups and wanted to try to build a new product and do do it the way that I had always wanted to do it which was bootstrapped calm slow growth. Um, and ah, you know, but do something that. You know, high margin. Um, try to basically build my perfect job. My dream job my my dream business. Um, so I started working on ad at the beginning of this year worked with a partner for a little while who um, ultimately had to step away for some personal reasons. Um. Which then launched me into the process of learning to code again which has been really cool. Um, kind of surprised myself with how much I have enjoyed that and liked that. Um and so that was a few months ago that I I started learning to code and and building the product.07:05.74
Andrew
Myself and I'm now ah at a point where I've got a functional prototype and I'm you know probably going to be launching in a week or 2 probably 2 two weeks would be my guess. So um, yeah.07:19.46
Sean
I Hell yeah.07:24.27
Andrew
Last time we recorded I was running an agency and now I am getting ready to launch a new Saas company. So yeah, and so now that's ah now we're on season 2 Um, so yeah, tell me tell me ah tell me and tell our 3 listeners.07:29.51
Sean
Yeah, act... -
(0:24) This is officially a rock climbing podcast
(8:15) Andrew and Sean's gardens have attracted guests
(12:59) Sean lowkey needs another break
(25:10) Miscreants is doing a collection drop at DEFCON
(29:56) Rebranding is like creating a religion but without Kool-Aid
Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
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(0:27) There’s a parallel universe where Andrew’s life revolves around photography
(8:34) Sean is suspicious as hell
(17:31) The real reason why so many CEOs are super fucking into meditation
(26:31) Andrew and Sean’s bi-weekly book club chat
(34:29) Your lawyer career doesn’t mean shit if you can’t work on your streetwear brand
Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/Sublime Security: https://sublimesecurity.com/ Email Rep IO: https://emailrep.io/ Ted at Sentinel IPS: @tedgruenloh Margins by Ranjan Roy and Can Duruk: https://www.readmargins.com/ Leave Me Alone: https://leavemealone.app/ SparkToro: https://sparktoro.com/ Melissa Perri’s book: Escaping the Build Trap: How Effective Product Management Creates Real Value Bionic reading: https://bionic-reading.com/For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
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(0:25) The difference between Andrew and Sean is that Sean is extra delusional
(6:27) Sales feels like throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks
(17:23) Either the channels depend on the day, or different channels work during different times
(24:32) Giving constraints encourages creativity, not stifles it
(34:21) Andrew and Sean are both traveling and bad at bowling
Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/Traction: https://www.amazon.com/Traction-Get-Grip-Your-Business/dp/1936661837For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
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(0:22) Getting experience is all about putting in the reps
(9:09) It’s easy judging a designer by their portfolio. A PM by their resume? Not so much.
(18:58) It’s mad hard building a leadership team
(27:12) Commission vs. Salary: We’re undecided on which one’s better
(37:03) If Krit didn’t exist, Andrew would definitely have an SEO marketing agency
Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/Pyramid of Success: http://www.coachwooden.com/pyramid-of-success Traction: https://www.amazon.com/Traction-Get-Grip-Your-Business/dp/1936661837 Entreprenurial Operation System: https://www.eosworldwide.com/ Luke Stephens: @hakluke HackerContent: https://hackercontent.com/For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
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(0:22) Sean was recently diagnosed with ADHD, and that’s OK
(5:58) I’m not undisciplined, mom—I’m just wired differently
(10:16) Wages as a CEO: How much should you compensate yourself?
(20:21) Stocks are steady, but business is more rewarding
(26:53) Sometimes, it’s the stupid risks that pay off (so go sponsor that esports team)
(30:36) Personal note: Rest in peace, Mike Murray
Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/Atonic Habits: https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits Bureau of Digital 2022 Salary Guide: https://bureauofdigital.com/2022-salary-guide Mike Murray: @mmurray Organizing Solutions for People with ADHD: https://www.amazon.com/Organizing-Solutions-People-Revised-Updated/dp/1592335128 Pilot’s 2021 Founder Salary Report: https://pilot.com/blog/2021-pilot-founder-salary-reportFor more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
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(0:27) It’s good to have a playbook in case you get hit by a bus tomorrow
(6:19) You can’t have a great process if you don’t iterate or communicate
(11:31) The more granular you get, the more you get bogged down by the rules
(18:14) Awesome employees + no rules = chaos
(23:17) The client does have the final decision, but it’s sad if you just act like a waiter
(33:24) Miscreants don’t sponsor losers
Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/Maker’s Pace: https://anchor.fm/makers-pace/For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
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(0:27) The Tale of Two Founders: the Technical One and the Sales and Marketing One
(6:58) Sean is Andrew’s new therapist
(13:39) Letting go of your Legos is harder than it looks
(17:48) Hot Take: Social media memers don’t make for good marketing directors
(23:32) Sean is like a laptop with too many Chrome tabs open: constantly getting drained
(29:56) Relinquishing Perfectionism: It’s not that their version is worse—it’s just different
(35:40) Miscreants is now an eSports sponsor
Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/Productive Flourishing: https://www.productiveflourishing.com/For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
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(0:27) Andrew got roped into volunteering with a local high school robotics team
(4:12) It’s mad hard to hire a product designer
(10:59) One does not simply get hired because one uses hamburger menus
(20:22) There’s always a weird rift between international and domestic employees
(28:38) How do you keep your employees happy when you can’t give them a ping pong table?
(31:38) You can’t pay someone a shit salary just because they’re in Mexico
(40:44) Hiring People: It’s like a transaction, so don’t be shitty
Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Andrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
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(0:27) Andrew got his first snow boots ever, and Sean is terrified of surfboarding
(4:36) Sean wishes he had an office-office, and Andrew's looking to hire a product designer
(10:14) Andrew’s new pitch: a low-cost, automated recruiting service with a flat fee
(19:58) There are many great online job boards out there, but Ziprecruiter is not one of them
(25:34) Coinbase's Super Bowl ad was a super clever campaign
(30:02) Andrew and Sean play a game using Krit's data on cybersecurity product names
(40:07) Sean’s new self-care regime: breathwork
(45:32) It's hard to know just how many people you should hire
(51:48) You can't build a business on something people don't want or don't know that they need
Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/Pallet: https://www.pallet.com/ Superpath: https://jobs.superpath.co/ Krit’s cyber security product names analysis article: https://www.krit.com/blog/cybersecurity-product-names For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
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(0:27) Andrew’s never been to Disney World, and Sean’s surrounded by cat owners
(5:18) Domain names are like gym memberships: you should take them seriously
(10:38) People are scrambling to figure out how to close that lead gap, and that’s fair
(15:40) A less boring alternative to white papers: interactive microsites
(19:48) No time for microsites? Start a movement with other companies
(24:33) What’s better than hosting competitions? Free swag.
(28:19) Everyone loves free stuff—including existing customers
(31:59) One does not simply close the lead gap by making marketing events
Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/Label Time: https://label-time.com/ Minimum Viable Secure Product: https://mvsp.dev/ Trace Labs: https://www.tracelabs.org/For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
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(0:25) Andrew and Sean are going to play a game
(2:57) Microcopy: the little bits of texts that can make a huge splash
(7:48) Accessibility: it’s just good design
(10:18) Andrew wants tooltip walk-throughs to burn in Hell
(14:05) Not all product analytics is created equally
(20:03) Why do people have a customer support robot when it takes hours to get a response?
(23:19) Documentation is more scalable than customer support, but most people suck at it
(32:47) Andrew’s quick correction
Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.
Links:
Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/Growth.Design: https://growth.design/ Samuel Hulick’s User Onboarding: https://www.useronboard.com/ Parallax tool: https://www.getparallax.com/For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
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(0:27) Andrew hopes he's resilient to SAD because he has plenty of other mental anguish
(3:29) Culture and Business: Only having awesome culture doesn't put food on the table
(15:58) Miscreants just launched three freaking projects back to back
(19:09) Appealing to Emotions 101: Emphasize with pain
(21:33) If you think figuring out your niche is hard, try finding someone else's
(29:15) Standing out in a Commoditized Industry: Specifically show what you do
(38:07) Krit and Miscreant's 2022 goals: Less chaos, more focus
Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.
Links:
Andrew's Twitter: @AndrewAskinsAndrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Andrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/Krit: https://www.krit.com/ Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ Sean's Twitter: @seanqsunHatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
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