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  • Gordon joins Jay from Rio as the IATA AGM wraps. The two then turn to Brazil itself: one of the world's largest aviation markets, and one of its most consolidated — a combination that shapes everything from pricing to who gets to compete.



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    00:35 IATA Rio Highlights

    03:15 OEM and Engine Anger

    10:05 Capacity Crunch Upside

    13:58 Demand and Fare Limits

    18:45 Fuel Price vs Shortage

    22:43 Break and Reset

    23:36 Brazil Market Overview

    26:07 Triopoly and Bankruptcies

    32:06 Why No New Entrants

    35:01 Regulation and Gol Long Haul

    37:19 World Cup Travel Talk

    38:59 Wrap and Subscribe

  • Gordon and Jay decode the most revealing CEO commentary from the Bernstein investor conference — what executives signaled about capacity, consolidation, and the months ahead. Then they look forward to the IATA AGM, one of the aviation industry's biggest gatherings, and what to watch for.

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    00:35 Coffee Confessions and Naps

    02:14 Bernstein Conference Setup

    03:11 JetBlue Buyout Rumors

    05:39 Kirby Shuts It Down

    08:39 Southwest Take on Mergers

    12:42 JetBlue Response and Outlook

    16:07 Fuel Prices and Guidance

    20:07 Break and Listener Mail

    20:30 IATA AGM Rio Preview

    21:37 What IATA Is and Why It Matters

    25:34 Key Themes Fuel Middle East Sustainability

    27:53 Questions to Ask CEOs

    32:31 Aircraft Supply Crunch

    36:40 Wrap Up and Subscribe

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  • A rough quarter for easyJet has the numbers telling a stark story. In part one, Gordon and Jay dig into a -27% operating margin and the missteps, market pressures, and industry dynamics behind it. In part two, they answer a deceptively simple question: why does Atlanta — not New York, London, or Dubai — top the global rankings for passenger traffic?

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    41:45 Closing and IATA AGM plug

  • Gordon and Jay unpack how Iberia engineered one of the most dramatic financial turnarounds in modern airline history. Plus: Singapore Airlines posts a solid start to the year, but its Air India stake is shaping up to be a costly bet.



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    00:00 Welcome and Agenda

    01:39 Singapore Earnings Snapshot

    03:28 Air India Stake Drag

    04:17 Why SIA Keeps Investing

    07:22 Vistara Merger Complexity

    08:43 Air India Headwinds

    09:47 CEO Transition Stakes

    11:56 SIA Wrap and Break

    14:09 Iberia Turnaround Setup

    15:03 Profitability Like Ryanair

    16:17 From Dysfunction to Reform

    20:23 Margins Then and Now

    22:51 Madrid Hub and Macro Tailwinds

    27:23 Latin America Strategy

    32:04 More Advantages and XLR Growth

    36:57 Final Thoughts and Signoff

  • Gordon sits down with Skift airlines reporter Meghna Maharishi to break down a revealing Q1 earnings season for U.S. carriers — separating the standouts from the strugglers. Plus: the latest merger chatter swirling around the industry, and could a major Boeing order follow President Trump's visit to China?

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    01:10 Q1 Earnings Snapshot02:26 Southwest Surprise Quarter03:24 Bag Fees and New Model05:05 Elliott Pressure and Next Moves07:08 Lounges and Premium Light08:22 American Falling Behind10:39 Break and Return11:16 Scott Kirby Merger Talk14:59 DC Policy Watchlist16:50 Flying Taxis in NYC20:57 Spirit Collapse Aftermath23:23 Trump China Trip Aviation Angle25:11 Wrap Up and Subscribe

  • Spirit Airlines is the first major U.S. carrier to go out of business in more than two decades. In this special edition, Gordon is joined by Jay and Meghna to unpack what went wrong — from blocked mergers to shifting consumer demand — and what Spirit's collapse means for the future of low-cost flying in America.



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    00:00 Spirit Collapse Begins

    00:54 Meghna’s 3AM Breaking News

    02:51 How Spirit Ran Out

    06:10 Is ULCC Model Dead

    09:00 Bankruptcy Missteps And Mergers

    13:32 DOJ JetBlue Deal Fallout

    17:59 Cost Math Writing Wall

    20:34 Part Two What Happens Next

    20:48 Who Fills Spirit Routes

    23:19 Fares Rise And Route Gaps

    25:26 What Low Cost Still Works

    27:32 Mergers Partnerships After Spirit

    33:34 Can A New ULCC Launch

    36:42 Final Thanks And Wrap

  • Gordon and Jay open with JetBlue's latest quarterly results, unpacking what's behind the airline's struggles and what it might take to get back on course. Then they turn to Norwegian, where a strong set of numbers tells a very different story.



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    01:24 JetBlue Earnings Snapshot

    03:31 Why JetBlue Is Struggling

    07:40 Fort Lauderdale and JFK Strategy

    11:15 Spirit Bailout Tangent

    14:50 JetForward Plan and Levers

    18:23 Fuel Shock and Demand Strength

    19:34 Break and Subscribe Plug

    20:06 Norwegian Reset and Q1 Results

    23:26 What’s Driving the Turnaround

    24:23 Europe Capacity Cuts and Demand

    28:32 Fuel Supply and Industry Mood

    31:15 Wrap Up and Final Thanks

  • Could the U.S. Government shore up Spirit Airlines? Gordon and Jay break down the latest industry chatter about the troubled carrier's future, including fresh commentary from President Trump. Then they shift gears to unpack Alaska Air Group's newest earnings report and what it signals about the carrier's post-Hawaiian merger trajectory.



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    32:27 Demand Headwinds and Closing

  • Will two of America's biggest airlines become one? Gordon and Jay dig into whether a United-American mega-merger is actually on the table and ask what further consolidation would mean for the industry. Plus: Qantas cuts capacity and Korean Air's latest financials.



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    00:32 United American Merger Rumor01:59 Regulatory and Fuel Context05:05 Duffy Comments and Caveats06:26 Consolidation Speculation08:32 Qantas Fuel Hedging Shock09:47 Network Shifts and Airspace13:15 More Headlines and Break14:23 Korean Air Q1 Overview15:59 Passenger Demand Drivers19:27 Cargo Boom and Other Units23:19 Asiana Merger Clarified25:29 Wrap Up and Subscribe

  • Delta’s latest results are in and the fuel price challenge is front and center. Gordon, Jay, and Meghna dive into what the numbers say about the airline’s strategy and resilience. In part two, the conversation turns to Southwest and the next chapter of its transformation story.



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    00:59 Delta Q1 Headline Numbers

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    03:29 Earnings Call Tone

    04:07 Premium Demand Holds

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    06:48 Why Demand Stays Strong

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    33:23 Culture And Activist Push

    35:34 Passenger Reactions Mixed

    37:21 Middle Market Risk

    39:44 Final Thanks Signoff

  • Gordon and Jay unpack major leadership moves shaping the industry, from Willie Walsh’s shift to IndiGo to Michael Rousseau’s departure from Air Canada. Later, they dive into fuel prices and what’s ahead for Alaska Airlines.



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    02:26 JetBlue Seeks a Partner

    04:42 Willie Walsh to IndiGo

    08:25 IATA Succession Talk

    11:11 Air India Leadership Rumors

    12:00 Air Canada CEO Steps Down

    18:50 What Are IDEA Awards

    19:37 Who Can Enter

    20:09 Airline Categories Explained

    21:19 Quiz And Sample Forms

    23:29 Back To Lounge News

    23:53 Fuel Price Reality Check

    24:49 Alaska Warns Bigger Loss

    26:22 Mexico And Hawaii Demand Dip

    28:41 Alaska Expands To Europe

    30:33 Widebody Risk Debate

    31:10 Why Buy Hawaiian

    34:12 Seattle Long Haul Competition

    37:35 Integration And Outlook

    39:21 Wrap Up And Subscribe

  • In part one, Gordon and Jay unpack a whirlwind few days for the global airline industry, including fresh insights on jet fuel prices. In part two, the conversation turns to intriguing developments at Filipino low-cost carrier Cebu Pacific. 



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    01:17 Fuel Price Crisis Update

    04:57 Other Industry Headlines

    05:31 Earnings Season Preview

    09:18 Demand Strong Despite Costs

    11:30 Listener Mail and Break

    11:53 Skift Idea Awards Spotlight

    16:53 Back From Break and Setup

    17:25 Cebu Pacific Overview

    20:43 Profitability and Challenges

    21:39 Fuel Shock and Fare Hikes

    26:23 Wrap Up and Subscribe

  • Fuel accounts for roughly 20–30% of an airline’s operating costs—so when prices surge, the impact can be immediate and significant. In this week’s show, Gordon and Jay break down how U.S. airlines are navigating this historic spike and explore what it could mean for supply and demand. 



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    00:36 Fuel Crisis Reality Check
    01:59 JP Morgan Conference Setup
    04:19 March Bad Luck Streak
    05:23 Jet Fuel Spike Numbers
    07:09 Fares Rising Demand Strong
    09:49 Pulled Forward Bookings
    13:43 Q1 Earnings and Weather
    16:28 New Revenue Levers
    18:03 Legacy vs LCC Pricing
    19:33 Subscribe and Break Tease
    20:17 IDEA Awards Introduction
    21:08 Impact Over Scale
    21:56 Finding Your Category
    23:06 Quiz and Sample Forms
    23:40 How to Submit
    24:46 Awards Wrap and Next Topic
    25:16 Why JP Morgan Matters
    27:20 Delta Refinery Explained
    31:25 American vs United O'Hare
    35:19 Fuel Shock and Recession Risk
    37:32 Volatility Is the New Normal

  • Jay Shabat is joined by Meghna Maharishi and Skift's Head of Research Seth Borko for a crossover Airline Weekly Lounge that hits two pressure points at once: a sudden jet fuel spike and the growing airport disruptions from the current US government shutdown. 

    First, Seth breaks down what the fuel surge could mean for US carriers, using airline SEC disclosures to translate price moves into real dollars, and why the pain can vary by region even when the shock is global. 

    Then Meghna walks through what travelers are feeling on the ground as TSA agents miss paychecks, security lines balloon at several airports during spring break, and Global Entry remains suspended, creating additional bottlenecks for international arrivals. The team closes with what to watch next, including signals expected from airline leaders at the upcoming JPMorgan Industrials conference.

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  • In a week when the world's busiest international airline ground to a halt and Gulf hubs faced aerial attack, Gordon and Jay explore the impact of the Iran war on the aviation industry. In part two, we take a closer look at the latest earnings from Qantas and Virgin Australia.



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  • In part one, Gordon and Jay review the latest numbers from Singapore Airlines and explain why context is key when determining success. In part two, we preview the annual results from British Airways and Iberia's parent company, IAG. 



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  • Delta and United are dominating airline profits while American falls behind, and Frontier struggles to recover.

    Jay Shabat and Meghna Maharishi break down airline earnings, American’s leadership pressure, and Frontier’s turnaround strategy.



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  • In part one of this week's show, Gordon and Jay crunch the latest financials from Icelandair and discuss how it plans to become sustainably profitable. In part two, the conversation turns to global airports, as we reveal the major hubs with the biggest shifts in capacity for Q2.



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  •  In this week's show, Gordon and Jay discuss the latest results from Japan's two mega-airline groups. With inbound visitor numbers soaring, but domestic air travel down, we analyze the key financial and operational metrics separating ANA from JAL.



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  • In part one of this week's show, Gordon and Jay discuss the latest quarterly earnings from American Airlines and JetBlue. In part two, the discussion turns to Ryanair, with a deep dive into its financials and 2026 strategy. 



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