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    Are you tired of the endless cycle of live launching and the stress that comes with it? What if you could generate consistent, scalable revenue from your online course—without the burnout?

    In this episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, I sit down with Caitlin Batcher, creator of The Scale Method, to uncover how she transformed her online course business into an 8-figure powerhouse using evergreen sales funnels. Caitlin shares the pivotal lessons she learned along the way, including why launching isn’t always the best strategy and how she built a predictable, scalable income stream without the stress of constant promotions.

    We dive deep into:

    ✅ The key differences between live launching and evergreen funnels (and which one is best for you)

    ✅ The biggest mistakes course creators make when transitioning to evergreen (and how to avoid them)

    ✅ Why traditional webinar strategies fail in evergreen models—and what works instead

    ✅ How to structure an ethical sales funnel that builds trust with your audience

    ✅ The mindset shifts that took Caitlin from stuck to scaling fast (and what it takes to hit your first 6 or 7 figures!)

    If you've ever felt like you’re on a never-ending treadmill of launches, this episode is a must-listen. Caitlin’s journey will show you how to simplify your sales strategy while creating sustainable, long-term success.

    🎧 Listen now and discover how to build a high-impact, high-revenue course business—without the launch stress.

    🔗 Links & Resources Mentioned:

    Caitlin Batcher’s Free Masterclass: How to Generate Launch-Size Revenue Without LaunchingFollow Caitlin on Instagram: @CaitlinBatcherJoin Shannon’s Free Masterclass: The 4 Proven Steps to Creating a High-Quality Online Course That Gets Results

    📢 Loved this episode? Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ review, and share it with fellow course creators who need this advice!

    ➡️ DM me on Instagram (@ShannonLBoyer) and let me know your biggest takeaway from today’s episode!

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    💡 A great course doesn’t just teach—it transforms. But what does it actually take to design a course that delivers real, lasting results?

    In this special bonus episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, we’re diving deep into the transformation factor—the difference between courses that simply share information and those that change lives. If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, be sure to check it out first!

    In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

    ✅ Why transformation—not just information—should be the core of your course
    ✅ The biggest mistake course creators make when designing their curriculum
    ✅ How to structure your course as a step-by-step journey that keeps students engaged
    ✅ Why anticipating roadblocks is key to helping students follow through
    ✅ The powerful ripple effect of empowering your students (and how it benefits you, too)

    🎧 Plus, I’m sharing real-world examples of transformational course design, so you can apply these principles to your own course—starting today!

    Resources & Links Mentioned:

    📌 Sign up for my FREE masterclass: The 4 Proven Steps to Creating a High-Quality Online Course That Gets Results
    📌 Join me next week for a conversation with Caitlin Bacher on evergreen sales funnels & scaling your course business!

    🎙️ Listen now and discover how to create a course that truly transforms your students’ lives!

    👉 Have you ever taken a course that truly changed the way you think or work? Tell me about it in the comments!

    #CourseCreation #TransformationalLearning #OnlineBusinessGrowth

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    💡 You’ve heard the pitch: “Create an online course and earn passive income while you sleep!” But is it really that simple? And more importantly—should you create one?

    In this episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, we’re diving deep into the realities of creating an online course. It’s not the effortless cash machine some people promise, but that’s actually a good thing. When done right, an online course becomes more than just another revenue stream—it becomes a powerful asset that sets you apart in your industry, builds your credibility, and creates real impact.

    And here’s the kicker: The rewards of putting in the effort go far beyond what you might expect.

    In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

    ✅ Why “passive income” is a myth—and what online courses actually offer instead
    ✅ How the work of creating a course puts you in an elite group of experts
    ✅ The surprising ways a high-quality course can open doors to new opportunities
    ✅ Why your course isn’t just a product—it’s a long-term asset that grows with you
    ✅ How building a course can position you as a trusted authority and thought leader in your space

    🎧 Plus, don’t miss part two of this special series! In the next episode, I’ll break down how to design a course that creates real transformation for your students. Be sure to subscribe so you don’t miss it!

    Resources & Links Mentioned:

    📌 Sign up for my free masterclass: The 4 Proven Steps to Creating a High-Quality Online Course That Gets Results
    📌 Connect with me on Instagram @shannonlboyer and let me know what resonated with you.

    ➡️ If you found this episode valuable, take a screenshot, share it on Instagram, and tag me—I’d love to hear your takeaways!

    🎙 Listen now and discover why the effort of creating a course is actually your biggest advantage!

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    In this week’s episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, we dive into an insightful coaching session with Elaine Dickens, a registered psychotherapist and founder of Live Inspired Wellness. Elaine brings thoughtful questions to the table about transitioning her expertise into a purposeful educational offering, creating impactful workbooks, and delivering value-packed workshops for her audience of high-performing professionals.

    Elaine's passion for helping her clients achieve their full potential shines through as she discusses her vision for workshops and online courses. Whether you’re an entrepreneur considering creating a course or looking to refine your current offerings, this episode is brimming with strategies, practical advice, and creative approaches to course creation.

    🎧 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

    Why course creation is as much a creative outlet as it is a strategic business decision.The importance of being intentional when creating workbooks and how to transform them into active learning tools.Tips for designing workshops that engage participants and leave a lasting impact.Key differences between creating in-person workshops and translating them into online courses.How to tailor your course content and materials to meet the needs of your target audience, whether in-person or online.

    ✨ Actionable Takeaways:

    How to craft workbooks that are practical, engaging, and support active learning.Strategies for structuring workshops and courses to maintain engagement and ensure students walk away with actionable skills.Insights on marketing your course to the right audience and being transparent about who it’s designed for.

    📌 Ready to Create Your High-Impact Course?
    Be sure to check out my free masterclass, The Four Proven Steps to Creating a High-Quality Online Course That Gets Results. Learn how to avoid common pitfalls, deliver exceptional value, and build a course that truly makes an impact.

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    Want to work through your course creation questions in a coaching session with me? Apply to be a guest on The Art of Online Course Creation.

    📧 Get in Touch with Elaine Dickens:
    Live Inspired Wellness
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    Creating an online course is an exciting journey—but it can be overwhelming when you're not sure where to turn for help. In this episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, Shannon Boyer dives into the three key players who can support you in bringing your course to life. You’ll learn about the important roles of marketers, tech and design specialists, and educators—and why knowing the difference is essential for your course’s success.

    What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

    The distinct role each person plays in the course creation process.Why the right kind of help matters at each stage of your course development.The value of working with marketers, tech experts, and educators—and how they all contribute to a course that can truly make an impact.Key insights on how to avoid common missteps when choosing who to work with.

    Choosing the right support for your course creation journey can set you up for long-term success. With the right combination of marketing, design, and educational expertise, you can create a course that not only looks great but truly delivers on its promises to your students.

    Resources Mentioned:

    Free Masterclass: The Four Proven Steps to Creating a High-Quality Online Course That Gets ResultsDiscover the essentials for creating a course that resonates with students.Learn proven steps for making your course stand out and get results.

    Looking Ahead:
    In next week’s episode, Shannon is joined by registered psychotherapist Elaine Dickens for a live coaching call about turning her expertise into an impactful online course. Don’t miss this insightful discussion about teaching methods and creating valuable workbooks!

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    Are you curious about how artificial intelligence (AI) can elevate your course creation and marketing strategies? In this insightful episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, Shannon Boyer sits down with Emily Baillie—digital marketing expert, AI trainer, and professor at McMaster University—to explore the transformative role of AI in business and course creation.

    From practical tips for getting started with AI tools to understanding their limitations and potential biases, Emily shares her invaluable expertise in a way that's easy to understand and implement. Whether you're an AI novice or someone looking to refine your AI strategy, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you stay ahead in a fast-evolving digital landscape.

    What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

    How to start experimenting with AI tools like ChatGPT and Claude.The secrets to crafting effective AI prompts for better results.Why AI is a tool, not a shortcut, in creating high-quality, impactful courses.Essential considerations for protecting your privacy and data when using AI.Practical applications of AI for course creators, from content brainstorming to refining your writing.

    Emily also sheds light on the ethical and legal aspects of AI usage, offering a balanced perspective on its opportunities and challenges.

    If you’ve ever wondered how to incorporate AI into your business without compromising your unique voice or brand integrity, this conversation will guide you through the possibilities and pitfalls. Emily’s real-world examples and relatable approach make this complex topic accessible, whether you’re a seasoned marketer or a course creator just starting out.

    Connect with Emily Baillie:

    Visit her website: compasscontent.caFollow her on LinkedIn: Emily BaillieFind her on Instagram: Emily BaillieJoin her newsletter for tips and upcoming workshop announcements.

    Take the Next Step:
    Looking to create your own online course? Don’t forget to sign up for Shannon’s free masterclass:
    The Four Proven Steps to Creating a High-Quality Online Course That Gets Results. Reserve your spot at shannonlboyer.com/join.

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    Do you know the difference between trademarks, copyrights, and patents—and how they apply to your online course? Whether you’re a new or seasoned course creator, protecting your intellectual property is essential to building a lasting and recognizable brand.

    In this episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, I’m joined by Andrei Mincov, founder and CEO of Trademark Factory, the only firm in the world offering trademark registration services with guaranteed results for a guaranteed budget.

    Andrei shares his journey from practicing law in Russia to founding his global trademarking business and provides invaluable insights for course creators, including:

    The critical differences between copyrights, trademarks, and patents—and why they matter for your course business.When and how to trademark your course name, framework, or visuals to ensure they remain uniquely yours.The risks of neglecting trademark protection and how it could cost you down the line.How to navigate the legal complexities of trademarks in a global, online business.

    If you’ve ever wondered whether trademarking your course or framework is worth it—or how to even start—this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you safeguard your brand, grow your business, and set yourself apart in a crowded marketplace.

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

    Trademark Factory WebsiteTrademark Factory YouTube Channel: Learn more about trademarks with Andrei’s video library.

    Andrei Mincov is the founder and CEO of Trademark FactoryÂŽ. Andrei has written multiple books on intellectual property, one an international bestseller, and he has helped thousands of entrepreneurs and companies protect their IP. He is passionate about sharing his experiences with growth-minded entrepreneurs who want to build amazing brands.

    Ready to protect your course brand? Don’t miss this essential conversation!

    🎙️ Tune in now to discover how trademarks can elevate your course business and secure your place as an industry leader.

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    How often do you stop and really look back at the past year? Not just to replay the highlights or cringe at the challenges, but to really reflect—on the wins, the lessons, and the growth you didn’t even realize was happening.

    In this episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, we’re hitting pause on the hustle to do just that. Shannon walks you through how taking time to reflect can fuel your next big moves, help you set meaningful goals, and set the tone for a more intentional year ahead.

    Whether you’re celebrating major wins or untangling lessons from the tougher moments, this conversation is all about making space for growth, clarity, and purpose as you head into 2025.

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    What You’ll Hear in This Episode:

    Why taking time to reflect can completely change how you approach the new year.How celebrating even the smallest wins can motivate you for what’s next.A refreshing way to look at challenges—hint: they might not be the setbacks you think they are.A simple framework to set goals that align with your vision, not someone else’s.

    Looking Ahead:
    Next week, we’re diving into a must-know topic for course creators: protecting your brand. Shannon sits down with trademark expert Andrei Mincov to explore what you need to know about securing your intellectual property and why it’s a game-changer for your business.

    Your Next Step:
    Take just five minutes today to reflect on the past year. What’s one win you’re proud of? What’s one lesson you’ve learned? Write it down—it’s the first step toward a strategic, intentional 2025.

    Tune in now and let’s get started.

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    What does success really mean to you? Is it about hitting six-figure launches, or is it something more personal—like picking your kids up from school every day, staying healthy, or building a legacy?

    In this episode, Shannon takes you on a reflective journey to explore how success isn’t just about the numbers. Through personal stories and fresh insights, she challenges the idea of a one-size-fits-all definition and helps you uncover what success looks like for you.

    Get ready to rethink your goals and design a business that truly supports the life you want to live. Whether you’re dreaming of more time for family, better health, or simply enjoying the ride, this episode will inspire you to align your course business with what matters most.

    Plus, Shannon shares a candid moment about her own struggles with balance this year—and the changes she’s making to prioritize her well-being in the year ahead.

    In this episode, Shannon covers:

    The mindset shift you need to define success on your own terms.How to create a business that works for your life, not the other way around.Personal reflections, actionable questions, and the inspiration to dream bigger (or smaller—whatever feels right for you).

    Resources to Keep the Momentum Going:

    Masterclass Signup: Ready to create an online course that gets results and showcases your expertise? Don’t miss Shannon’s free masterclass, where she shares her proven 4-step framework.Sip and Share Hour: Join Shannon and other online course creators for a monthly meetup—it’s like the lunchroom of the online course world!

    You don’t have to chase someone else’s idea of success. This is your chance to define it for yourself—and start building a life and business that feels just right.

    Hit play, and let’s get started.

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    What does success look like for you as a course creator?

    As the year draws to a close, it's natural to reflect on your achievements, challenges, and vision for the future. But when it comes to your online course, how do you define success? Is it the number of enrollments? The revenue? Or is it something deeper—something more impactful?

    In today’s episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, host Shannon Boyer dives into the first part of a powerful three-part series designed to help you redefine success. Moving beyond traditional metrics, Shannon challenges you to take a holistic look at what truly matters in your journey as a course creator.

    In this episode, Shannon explores how to redefine success as a course creator, moving beyond surface-level metrics to uncover what truly matters. You’ll discover fresh perspectives on measuring your impact, creating a deeper connection with your students, and building a legacy that aligns with your mission.

    Throughout the episode, Shannon shares actionable reflection prompts and inspiring examples that will leave you motivated to celebrate your wins, learn from your challenges, and approach the year ahead with clarity and purpose.

    If you’ve ever felt pressure to chase vanity metrics or struggled to define your achievements in meaningful ways, this episode is for you. Shannon’s insights will leave you inspired to focus on what matters most: the lives you touch and the legacy you’re building through your course.

    Resources & Links

    Explore Shannon’s signature program: Your Best Course ExperienceConnect with Shannon through Instagram @shannonlboyer

    Next Week:
    Join us for part two of this series, where we’ll dive deeper into redefining success for yourself—not just as a course creator, but as an entrepreneur with a vision. You won’t want to miss it!

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    What’s in a name? Everything—if you want your course to stand out in a crowded market. In this episode, Shannon sits down with James I. Bond, author of the groundbreaking book Brain Glue, to uncover the secrets behind creating course names that captivate and convert.

    James brings decades of expertise in emotional selling and marketing, sharing the science-backed techniques behind why some names stick like glue—and why others don’t. From bestsellers like Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus to quirky products like Squatty Potty, James unpacks the strategies that make these names unforgettable.

    Whether you’re brainstorming your very first course or rethinking your branding, this episode is packed with insights that will transform the way you think about naming.

    Here’s What to Listen For:

    The surprising reason logical names fail—and what to do instead.A three-step process for coming up with names that resonate and sell.The "Brain Triggers" that create emotional connections in your audience’s mind.Fascinating stories behind some of the most iconic names in business (and what you can learn from them).How to balance SEO with emotional appeal for online course names.

    About James I. Bond

    James I. Bond is a behavioral management specialist and the author of Brain Glue, a Publishers Weekly finalist for Best Book of the Year. His career spans running a top advertising agency in Montreal to consulting with Fortune 500 companies in Southern California. Through Brain Glue, James demystifies the emotional triggers that drive decision-making and teaches entrepreneurs how to make their brands unforgettable.

    Learn more about James’ work and explore Brain Glue at YesBrainGlue.com.

    Resources and Links

    Learn More About James I. Bond: YesBrainGlue.comOrder the Book: Brain Glue is available now on Amazon.Connect with Shannon Boyer: Explore Shannon’s services and book your free discovery call at ShannonLBoyer.com/Services.

    Ready to Name Your Course Like a Pro?

    Discover the art and science of course naming in this must-listen episode. Get inspired by James I. Bond’s stories, actionable tips, and creati

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    Have you ever tailored your online course to cater to visual, auditory, or kinesthetic learners, believing it would improve their outcomes? While the idea of learning styles is pervasive, what if it’s not the key to student success?

    In this episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, host Shannon Boyer takes a deep dive into the widely held belief in learning styles and uncovers why they might not be the golden ticket many course creators think they are. Instead, Shannon shares evidence-backed strategies that truly enhance learning and help students achieve results.

    What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

    The surprising research that debunks the myth of learning styles.Why focusing too much on learning styles can unintentionally limit students.The difference between learning preferences and effective teaching methods—and why it matters.How a multi-sensory approach to teaching fosters better engagement, deeper understanding, and more flexible learners.Real-world examples of aligning teaching methods with the content itself—whether it’s learning to play an instrument or mastering geometry.

    Shannon also explores how engaging students through a variety of methods builds adaptability and critical thinking skills—tools they’ll use far beyond your course.

    Why You Should Listen:

    If you’re a purpose-driven course creator striving to create a course that gets real results for your students, this episode is for you. Shannon breaks down complex research into actionable advice, challenging common misconceptions while providing practical tips you can apply immediately.

    Resources and Links:

    Join Shannon’s monthly Sip and Share sessions: shannonlboyer.com/WednesdaysLearn more about creating impactful courses: Visit Shannon’s Website

    Don’t Miss Out on Next Week’s Episode:

    Subscribe now to catch Shannon’s interview with James I Bond, author of Brain Glue, where they’ll discuss how to create compelling names for your courses and businesses to boost sales.

    Ready to reimagine how you teach? Hit play now and discover how to move beyond the learning styles myth to create a more engaging and effective online course!

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    Do you ever feel uneasy about the marketing tactics you see in the online space? In this episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, Shannon Boyer welcomes Jan Ditchfield, a business strategist with a remarkable background in fundraising and ethical marketing. Together, they explore how to create genuine connections with your audience while staying true to your values—and how these principles can transform your online course business.

    Drawing from her years in the nonprofit sector, Jan shares actionable strategies for avoiding the manipulative tactics of "bro marketing" and fostering trust through ethical sales practices. You'll also learn the key differences between ethical urgency and misleading scarcity, how to qualify leads to ensure your students are set up for success, and why building trust begins long before—and long after—the sale.

    This conversation is packed with practical tips and empowering insights to help course creators navigate the often-confusing landscape of online marketing. If you're looking for strategies to grow your business authentically while delivering exceptional value to your students, this episode is a must-listen.

    What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

    What "bro marketing" really means and why it’s harmful.Practical ways to sell authentically and ethically.How to use urgency and scarcity without crossing ethical lines.Why trust-building begins after the sale—and how it can lead to long-term success.Key strategies for ensuring your marketing aligns with your values.

    Guest Spotlight:
    Jan Ditchfield is an award-winning business strategist and ethical sales expert who has generated over $25 million in revenue in her career. She helps purpose-driven women turn their expertise into thriving, online businesses that generate consistent $10k months—without sacrificing their values or burning out. Jan left her 20+ year career as a professional fundraiser to build a multiple 6-figure business during the height of the pandemic, with a toddler under her desk. She’s also the straight-talking host of the Top 3% podcast No BS Business School, where she teaches women how to master ethical sales and marketing strategies that deliver real results.

    Links & Resources:

    Connect with Jan: JanDitchfield.co or @janditchfield.co on IG and FBListen to Jan’s podcast: No BS Business SchoolUnlock your six-figure potential with Jan's FREE $100,000 Online Business Checklist.

    Don’t Miss This Episode If You Want To:

    Learn how to market your online course with integrity.Build long-term relationships with your students and customers.Find joy in selling through alignment with your values.

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    When it comes to creating course modules, how much is too much? How do you keep your learners engaged while delivering meaningful results? In this episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, we’re exploring the secrets to designing modules that hit the perfect balance—structured enough to guide your learners but flexible enough to meet their needs.

    If you’ve ever wondered how to decide what belongs in a module, how long it should take, or how to avoid overwhelming your audience, this episode is for you. Get ready for actionable tips, real-world examples, and the clarity you need to create modules that your learners will love.

    What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

    Why every module needs a clear purpose and how defining objectives can transform the learning experience.How to make time work for you and your audience by tailoring content to fit their schedules and priorities.Simple strategies for managing cognitive load to keep learners from feeling overwhelmed and help them retain what they’ve learned.

    Plus, hear real-world examples and practical steps to implement these strategies in your own course.

    If you’ve struggled with figuring out how much content to include in a module, or you’re worried about whether your course feels overwhelming to learners, this episode will give you the clarity and confidence to move forward. Whether you’re just starting out or refining a course you’ve already created, these tips will help you design with intention and impact.

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    Join the Course – The Your Best Course Experience will take you from idea to impact with easy to follow frameworks, strategies, and support.Work With Me 1:1 – Book a free discovery call to learn more about how I might support you in creating your first course, your next course, or making your existing course world-class.

    Next Episode Teaser: Ever hear of a course marketing strategy that feels icky? There's a reason for that. Next week, that amazing business strategist, Jan Ditchfield is going to talk to us about selling our courses ethically. I can't wait!

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    In this special coaching episode of the Art of Online Course Creation podcast, host Shannon Boyer introduces the new series where she provides guidance to aspiring course creators.

    This episode features Brenda Chilstrom, an award-winning pediatric occupational therapist and feeding specialist. Brenda shares her journey and challenges in creating her online course, the Eating With Ease Academy, aimed at helping parents navigate feeding and sensory challenges with their children.

    Shannon provides valuable advice on structuring courses and maintaining engagement. Listen in for insights, tips, and inspiration on building impactful online courses.

    Brenda Chilstrom, OTR/L is an award-winning pediatric occupational therapist and feeding specialist, passionate about helping families navigate the complexities of feeding challenges. Through her innovative program, The Eating with EASE Academy, she empowers parents to create safe, joyful, and connected mealtime experiences for children facing feeding and sensory challenges. With a focus on sensory regulation, internal motivation, and nurturing curiosity, Brenda offers practical, evidence-based strategies tailored to each unique family, transforming rigidity and power struggles into joyful food exploration. Her mission is to shift the mindset around feeding, providing compassionate support and actionable tools to foster harmony and connection at the table.

    See Brenda's FREE Unlock Eating Guide.
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    If you are interested in being coached by Shannon on an episode of the show, please apply here.

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    Have you ever found that the bonus content or a guest speaker in a course was the thing that truly got you hooked? In today's episode, we're diving into how adding that little extra can make your online course stand out—without overwhelming your students or distracting from your main content.

    What You'll Learn:

    The difference between core content and bonus material, and why it matters.The three types of bonus content that can enhance your course.How to include guest speakers effectively to add value and credibility.Strategies to balance additional content so it enriches rather than distracts.

    If you're a course creator looking to add that special touch to your online course, this episode is packed with insights on how to do it right. Learn how to offer bonuses and bring in guest experts in a way that truly benefits your students and sets your course apart.

    Don't miss out on my free guide: "7 Things All Course MUST Have to Max Student Referrals." It's both a guide and a handy checklist to help you craft a high-quality course. Download it at shannonlboyer.com/must-haves

    Next Episode:

    Join us next week for a brand-new segment featuring a live coaching session with an award-winning pediatric occupational therapist. We'll explore how she can transition her successful in-person practice to the online world. It's going to be an insightful conversation you won't want to miss!

    Enjoyed this episode? Be sure to subscribe and leave a review! Your feedback helps us create content that you love.

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    To learn more about courses I offer and how to work with me, please check out my website here.

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    Ever thought about the legal side of online courses? You’re not alone! This week, Shannon Boyer sits down with Canadian lawyer and course creator, Corinne Boudreau, who breaks down the legal essentials course creators need to know. Corinne’s got a knack for making legal lingo easy to understand, all while adding her perspective as a fellow course creator.

    In this episode, you’ll hear about:

    Copyright Must-Knows: Protecting your content from day one – why and how to do it right.Essential Contracts & Clauses: The key agreements every course creator should have and why they matter.Handling Chargebacks & Refund Policies: Corinne shares strategies for tackling tricky refund requests and managing chargebacks like a pro.Navigating International Markets: With customers potentially anywhere, get Corinne’s advice on governing laws and cross-border legal nuances.DIY Legal Resources for Course Creators: Corinne discusses her legal templates designed for Canadian small businesses to get legally set without the stress.

    This episode is packed with actionable steps to set your business up for legal success—whether you’re new to course creation or scaling up. If you want to make sure your course is legally sound, don’t miss this informative and insightful conversation!

    Find Corinne at www.legalmybiz.ca or on Instagram here.
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    In this insightful episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, I am joined by Annette Stepanian, an American lawyer who has dedicated her career to helping entrepreneurs and small business owners protect their creative work. Annette is the founder of Your Legal BFF, a resource for easy-to-use, industry-specific legal templates and training. Together, we delve into the legal side of online course creation and how to safeguard your business from costly legal mistakes.

    Key Takeaways:

    Treating Your Course as a Business from Day One: One of the most common mistakes online course creators make is failing to treat their course as a business from the beginning. Annette explains the importance of setting up proper contracts, understanding intellectual property rights, and establishing clear terms of service and refund policies.The Power of Legal Templates: Many entrepreneurs shy away from legal services due to perceived costs, but Annette emphasizes the accessibility of legal templates that are designed for online course creators. These templates can provide essential protections without the need for a full-time lawyer.Protecting Your Intellectual Property: Online course creators often worry about content theft. Annette provides actionable advice on how to protect your work through copyright registration, trademarking course names, and using DMCA takedown notices if your content is copied.Navigating AI in Course Creation: As AI becomes more integrated into online businesses, course creators must be mindful of the potential legal challenges. While it can provide efficiencies, Annette advises creators to use AI cautiously until the legal landscape becomes clearer.

    About Annette Stepanian: Annette is a lawyer with over a decade of experience working with small business owners, creatives, and course creators. Her business, Your Legal BFF, provides industry-specific legal templates and resources to make legal information accessible and affordable.

    Connect with Annette:

    Website: www.AnnetteStepanian.comYour Legal BFF: www.YourLegalBFF.comInstagram: AnnetteStepanian

    If you're ready to dive deeper into the legal side of your course creation journey, be sure to join us next week for a special episode with Canadian lawyer Corinne Boudreau, who will provide insights specific to our friends up north!

    Until then, stay dedicated, stay passionate, and keep creating impactful online courses. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with your fellow course creators!

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    Imagine this: your online course is live, enrollments are flowing in, but how do you transform those sign-ups into a dynamic, engaged community? In this episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, Shannon Boyer unpacks why an engaged learning community is not just a bonus but a game-changer for online courses.

    Shannon delves into the powerful impact community has on course completion rates, student retention, and overall course value. She shares compelling research that highlights the difference a vibrant community can make and offers practical strategies to create one that not only supports learning but fosters accountability and growth.

    You'll learn how to implement specific activities and structures that encourage student interaction, from accountability threads to feedback sessions, ensuring your students feel connected and motivated to complete the course. Shannon also explores the role of the instructor in shaping the community—finding the balance between being present and empowering students to lead and engage with one another.

    But the value doesn’t end when the course does. Discover how a well-maintained community can build lasting relationships, strengthen loyalty, and create advocates for your brand. Shannon discusses the importance of long-term engagement and offers insights on leveraging alumni and beta groups to keep the energy alive.

    Additionally, Shannon addresses the current trend of using AI bots in communities, weighing in on why they may not be the ideal solution for fostering genuine connections. She also explains how you can set your course apart from the crowd by actively engaging with your students and encouraging a collaborative, rather than competitive, environment.

    Ready to turn your course into a thriving community? Tune in to gain actionable strategies and insights that will help you build a space where your students can connect, grow, and succeed together.

    For more insights on how to create a high-quality online course that delivers extreme value, check out my freebie, The 7 Things All Online Courses MUST Have to Max Student Referrals.

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    To learn more about courses I offer and how to work with me, please check out my website here.

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    In this episode of The Art of Online Course Creation, Shannon Boyer welcomes Teri Holland, a seasoned course creator and podcast coach. With a background in Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP) and hypnotherapy, Teri has successfully transitioned from live in-person trainings to online courses. She shares her valuable insights from over a decade of experience, discussing the power of staying personally involved in your courses, experimenting with formats, and the importance of persistence.

    Teri candidly talks about her journey, including the challenges she faced when she removed herself from her podcast training course, only to find her students struggling to take action. Realizing that personal support was a key element, she revamped the course, introduced a five-day challenge, and saw impressive results.

    Key topics covered:

    Teri’s Shift to Online Courses: How personal health challenges and COVID-19 led to Teri moving her live trainings online and why she decided to stick with it.The Importance of Involvement: Why Teri decided to reintegrate herself into her courses after finding that students weren’t taking action in her evergreen, self-paced programs.Why Short Challenges Work: How Teri structured her five-day podcasting challenge for rapid results, ensuring students don’t get stuck in perfectionism.Building Relationships: The importance of following up with students, nurturing relationships, and how it leads to both personal fulfillment and business growth.Launching vs. Selling: Teri’s candid thoughts on her “imperfect” approach to launching courses and why organic marketing and leveraging other people’s audiences has worked for her.Course Experimentation and Burnout Prevention: The need for course creators to experiment with formats, analyze results, and pivot when necessaryAdvice for New Course Creators: Teri’s advice to "just start" and allow room for growth, embracing the imperfections that come with being a beginner.

    If you're a course creator looking to strike the right balance between personal involvement, scalability, and student success, you’ll find Teri’s experiences both enlightening and encouraging.

    Connect with Teri:

    Website: www.teriholland.caSocial Media: @theterihollandPodcast: Success in MindFreebie from Teri: Pod Launch Checklist

    Teri Holland is Professional Speaker, Podcaster and Coach. Teri is the creator and host of Success in Mind, a podcast for entrepreneurs and leaders that ranks in the top 1% of podcasts worldwide. Having been a podcaster for over 9 years, she is now excited and passionate about helping others to find their voice through podcasting.

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