Afleveringen
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Nancy Hobbs founded the American Trail Running Association in 1996, helped establish USATF's Mountain Ultra Trail Council and chaired it for decades, and has served on the international boards governing trail and mountain running for some thirty years. Buzz and Nancy get into the underbelly of the sport: the governance.
They cover how the USATF Mountain Ultra Trail Council grew from a $750 annual budget to six figures, what a membership fee actually buys you (secondary medical insurance and drug testing, not just a warm fuzzies), why the biggest races, UTMB, Hardrock, Western States, aren't the official championships and what that imbalance does to the sport, the women reshaping who shows up on the start line, and the question Buzz keeps poking at: does trail running belong in the Olympics, and would it survive the trip? Also: a throwdown, a postcard, and a hard-won case for permission to walk.
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Danelle Ballengee is one of the most decorated endurance athletes in American history, a four-time Pikes Peak Marathon champion, two-time Adventure Racing World Champion, and six-time US Athlete of the Year across four different endurance sports. In December 2006, on a routine training run near her home in Moab, she slipped on black ice on the Amasa Back trail, fell roughly 60 feet, shattered her sacrum, broke her pelvis, and spent two sub-freezing nights alone in the desert before her dog Taz led search and rescue to her location.
In this conversation, Buzz sits down with Danelle at the Moab Public Library to revisit the golden era of adventure racing under Mark Burnett's Eco-Challenge, coming back two decades later for Bear Grylls' rebooted World's Toughest Race: Eco-Challenge Fiji alongside Travis and Mark Macy, the fall that should have killed her, and what it feels like to live what she calls borrowed time.
Danelle is the founder and race director of the Moab Trail Marathon and Half Marathon, held the first weekend in November.
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Matt Carpenter is the most decorated mountain runner in American history, 18-time Pikes Peak champion across twelve marathons and six ascents, holder of the Pikes Peak Marathon course record at 3:16:39 since 1993, and the man who took 90 minutes off the Leadville Trail 100 record in 2005 with a 15:42:59 that stood until 2024 when broken by David Roche.
In this conversation, Matt walks Buzz through what 33 years on top of Pikes Peak actually requires: the obsessive training math behind the 3-2-1 workout above 12,000 feet, the consistency-quality-quantity-rest pyramid that shaped every season, why a 90.2 VO2 max isn't the whole story (running economy is, and his was poor until he trained it), and the moment Ricardo Mejía's 1992 win lit the fire that produced the record the following August. They get into Matt's Fila SkyRunners years racing flat marathons at 17,060 feet in Tibet, his unconventional Leadville fueling system, 50 calories every ten minutes, watch set to beep, why he carried bottles in his armpits before running vests existed, and what made him retire on his own terms at 47 after winning Pikes Peak six years running. Plus the custard shop, the Planet Fitness bench-press streak, and a clear-eyed take on whether his marathon record will ever fall.
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Dave Mackey is a two-time USATF Ultrarunner of the Year, former rim-to-rim-to-rim Grand Canyon record holder, JFK 50 champion, and, after a freak fall off Bear Peak in May 2015, thirteen surgeries, and a voluntary below-the-knee amputation in November 2016, one of the more improbable comebacks in the sport. Buzz and Dave recorded the first part of this episode on the exact rock Dave fell off, on the summit of Bear Peak, in an actual snowstorm, wearing actual shorts.
In this conversation, Dave walks through the accident itself and the friends who got him off the mountain alive, why he ultimately chose amputation over more reconstruction, what proprioception feels like on a carbon-fiber running blade, his pre-Western States taper (rock climbing in Tuolumne Meadows), being one of the first American athletes to lace up a pair of absurd-looking early Hokas, and why he thinks modern ultrarunners are faster, better rested, and, for the most part, smiling more than his generation did. He's signed up for the Leadville Challenge again this summer, and he's still, as Travis Macy puts it, a runner's runner.
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Jason Blevins is a veteran journalist at the Colorado Sun who has spent nearly three decades covering outdoor recreation, public lands, and the mountain communities of the Colorado high country. In this conversation, Buzz and Jason dig into the slow-motion crisis unfolding across the Rocky Mountain West, a snowpack at 61 percent of normal, a 103-year-old Colorado River Compact straining under the weight of 40 million people's water needs, and ski towns facing an identity reckoning that has been building for years.
They talk about what it looks like when mountain communities diversify away from a sole reliance on chairlift riders, why the ideal town might be "just shitty enough," and how the housing crisis in places like Crested Butte and Aspen is a preview of pressures playing out across the country.
The conversation opens up into something larger: outdoor recreation as a $1.3 trillion industry that has earned a seat at the policy table — and the responsibility that comes with it. This episode is brought to you by Wahoo KICKR Run. The Buzz is part of the UltraSignup Podcast Network.
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Buzz sits down with Karl "Speedgoat" Meltzer, 50-time 100-mile winner, previous Appalachian Trail FKT holder, and the man behind one of trail running's most iconic nicknames , for a conversation about a career that has never followed the obvious path.
Karl is currently at 93 hundred-mile finishes, closing in on a goal he set four years ago: 100 finishes by the summer of 2027, with Hardrock 100 as his dream finale. They dig into the origin of the Speedgoat nickname (a jackrabbit, Highway 70, a Fila shoe called the Escape Goat), what it looks like to hold a perpetuity royalty deal with Hoka on one of the best-selling trail shoes in the world, and what Karl learned across three AT record attempts about the difference between being an elite hundred-miler and being ready for multi-day. Plus longevity, old-school zone-five-or-nothing training, speed golf at Bandon Dunes with Bernard Lagat and Nick Willis, and the homemade bobsled runs that once left Buzz's sacrum bruised for four days.
Karl is 58, still running for Hoka through 2027, still operating on the same principle that drove him through his Snowbird bartending years: live first, die later. The record will stand for a while. The shirt is coming.
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Sean O'Rourke holds a PhD in computational physics. He also lives in a Ford Transit Connect, bathes in hot springs, and has climbed roughly 2,000 peaks across the American West, South America, the Alps, and Central Asia, mostly alone, entirely self-funded, and almost completely off the radar. He goes by Dr. Dirtbag, a name he's been writing under since 2010.
This conversation is about what happens when someone with serious credentials looks at the conventional post-graduate path and quietly walks the other direction. Sean teaches computer science and coaches Nordic skiing remotely, which frees him to spend most of his time on what actually interests him: bike mountaineering in Kyrgyzstan, tagging remote six-thousanders in the Puna de Atacama, and attempting the 82 Alpine summits over 4,000 meters entirely self-propelled, a project that ended with a loose rock, a broken toe, and a 143-euro emergency room bill in Aosta. His trip reports and route ideas live at drdirtbag.com.
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Ski mountaineering just made its Olympic debut at the 2026 Milano Cortina Winter Games, the first new sport added to the Winter Olympics since 2002. Nikki LaRochelle, former U.S. Ski Mountaineering National Team member and color commentator for Olympic Broadcasting Services, joins the show live from Milan to break down everything that happened.
The headline for trail and ultrarunners: mountain runners Cam Smith and Anna Gibson placed fourth in the mixed relay, finishing ahead of Italy, Austria, and Germany. Gibson picked up the sport less than a year ago and delivered a masterclass in pacing that stunned even seasoned observers. France took gold, Switzerland silver, and Spain bronze, capping a historic week for Oriol Cardona Coll, who won the first-ever Olympic gold in men's skimo, Spain's first Winter Olympic gold since 1972.
Buzz and Nikki also discuss what Alysa Liu's joyful figure skating gold can teach endurance athletes about reframing pressure, how skimo landed with the broader public, and whether trail running could one day join the Games.
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Max King might be the most versatile distance runner on the planet. A World Mountain Running champion, a 100K road world champion, a Mount Marathon winner, a top finisher at Comrades and Sierre-Zinal, the range is almost absurd. But when Buzz sits down with Max, the thread running through all of it isn't ambition or optimization. It's fun. After burning out post-college and stepping away from the sport for two years, Max made a pact with himself: keep running only as long as it stays enjoyable.
Three decades later, that philosophy has carried him from obstacle courses to Welsh castles, from the track to the trails of southern China. In this conversation, Max and Buzz dig into what it actually looks like to maintain elite fitness across wildly different disciplines without specializing, how Max taught himself to climb like a European mountain runner after finishing 81st at his first Sierre-Zinal, and why the motivation to grind through big training blocks shifts as you age. Max talks honestly about what slowing down feels like at 46, the surprising role collagen and creatine have played in his recovery, and why he's now chasing bucket-list races like the Dipsea over podium finishes at marquee ultras.
The two close with a reflection on the growth of trail running worldwide, from local hundred-person races with hand timing and burritos to 5,000-person events in China, and why Max believes the soul of the sport will survive the spectacle.
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The 44th annual Ultrarunner of the Year Awards are in, and this year delivered one of the deepest fields of women's performances in the history of the award. Buzz Burrell talks with John "Tropical John" Medinger, who has administered the vote when he took over Ultrarunning Magazine (sold in 2024 to Jamil Coury), about the full results, the voting process, and what made 2025 such a standout year. Katie Schide won North American Female Ultrarunner of the Year after victories at Hard Rock (course record), the World Long Trail Championship, and Madeira. Jim Walmsley took the men's title with four wins, including Chianti Castles, where he beat Kilian Jornet. Meg Eckert's 603-mile six-day world record earned Performance of the Year for women, while Charlie Lawrence's 6:07:10 100K on the track (sub-six-minute pace) took the men's honors.
John and Buzz discuss how the voting works, why Western States results carry so much weight, the new World Ultrarunner of the Year category, and the endless debate of comparing trail times to track performances. They also touch on Courtney Dauwalter's challenging year, the case for Ann Flower and Caleb Olson, and why some impressive performances still fall short of the top 10.
TIMESTAMPS:
:00 Intro
1:40 Meet John Medinger
3:08 How the Ultrarunner of the Year Award works
10:04 Top 3 Female Ultrarunners of 2025
14:23 Katie Schide's dominant year
17:00 Top 3 Male Ultrarunners of 2025
21:00 Jim Walmsley's undefeated season
27:42 Performance of the Year: Meg Eckert's 603 miles
33:07 Why track performances won this year
42:11 World Ultrarunner of the Year results 46:58 Controversies and debates
52:16 The future of the award
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Ski mountaineering is about to have its moment, and if you're a trail runner, you should be paying attention. Skimo shares DNA with our sport: the relentless uphill effort, the technical descents, the mountain culture, and a surprising number of athletes who race both. After decades as a European-dominated discipline, skimo makes its Olympic debut at the 2026 Winter Games in Italy.
Nikki LaRochelle joins Buzz to break down what skimo is and why trail runners should care. A longtime skimo racer and ultrarunner, with finishes at San Juan Solstice 50 and Canyon de Chelly, Nikki famously Photoshopped herself into a broadcast booth four years ago, manifesting a future she wasn't sure she'd ever reach. This February, she'll be the technical commentator for the Olympic Broadcasting System. She walks listeners through what makes skimo racing so tactically complex: the transitions, the boot packs, the skinning, and the descents that punish any lapse in focus.
Then Cam Smith, one half of Team USA's mixed relay duo alongside Anna Gibson, shares what it's like to prepare for the biggest stage in sport. At the Solitude World Cup, Cam and Anna jumped from ranked 13th to first, proving they can compete with anyone on their best day. Cam talks about the mental game, the preparation heading into Italy, and chasing the first-ever Olympic medals in skimo history. Buzz floats the idea that they could be the first trail runners to compete in an Olympic Games.
The sprint is February 19th, the mixed relay February 21st. This is your primer on a sport that shares more with trail running than you might think.
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Buzz previews 2026 with Zoë Rom, coach Scott Johnston, Western States Race Director Craig Thornley, and Allison Mercer of FastestKnownTime.com.
The panel digs into the Courtney DauWalter, Tara Dower, Katie Scheide showdown at Hardrock 100 and what the growing competitive depth in women's ultrarunning actually tells us (spoiler: progress is real, but parity isn't here yet). Scott Johnston makes the case for AI and data analysis in elite pacing—and explains why it all goes out the window by mile 80. Craig Thornley shares updates on Western States' multi-year Granite Chief Wilderness trail reroute and weighs in on whether rising prize purses at Broken Arrow and Gorge Waterfalls signal a real shift in how the sport operates.
The conversation spans the backyard ultra phenomenon, crossover athletes moving between road and trail, and the grassroots running boom powering the whole thing from below. Zoë asks the pointed question: does ultrarunning have a pipeline for its next generation of stars, or are we five retirements away from a charisma crisis? And what would it take for athletes and media to stop producing what she calls "room temperature vanilla ice cream" content?
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Can a sport built on dirtbag ethos survive the arrival of real money? In this end-of-year special, Buzz gathers Zoë Rom, coach Scott Johnston, Western States race director Craig Thornley, and FKT manager Allison Mercer to make sense of 2025.
They dig into the paradox of professionalization, $275 super shoes, UTMB live broadcasts, Ironman private equity, while Zoë points to the data that says the grassroots still holds: only 1.7% of trail runners actually race, backyard ultras are booming, and FKTs remain just you and a GPS watch. Scott Johnston talks weighted vest training and speaks with rare compassion about the CCC doping scandal. Craig reveals Killian is returning to Western States in 2026 and announces the historic rule change allowing poles after 53 years, driven not by elite concerns but by accessibility for the back of the pack.
Allison celebrates a year of dominant women's performances, while Zoë asks the uncomfortable questions about OnlyFans sponsorships: why is it easier for a platform associated with adult content to support female athletes than it is for endemic brands? And Buzz wonders, when did vomiting and hallucinating become something to brag about?
Chapters:
00:00 – Intro
01:24 – Zoë Rom on the paradox of professionalization
11:17 – Scott Johnston on training Tom Evans and Ruth Croft
18:40 – Craig Thornley on Western States' historic men's race
27:12 – Allison Mercer on dominant women's performances
38:30 – Zoë on OnlyFans and sponsorship equity
49:18 – Scott on the CCC doping scandal
56:19 – Craig on poles, traction devices, and rule changes
1:00:23 – Chris Myers' scuba mask river crossing
1:04:02 – Buzz on glorifying suffering
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Camille Herron is the only athlete to win all three IAU Ultra World Championship distances, the only person to win both Comrades and Spartathlon, and the holder of world records from 50 miles to six days. But beyond the numbers, Herron is a scientist with a master's degree in exercise and sports science, a recently diagnosed autistic and ADHD athlete, and someone who has navigated more than her share of controversy. In this wide-ranging conversation with Buzz Burrell, Herron opens up about everything: her unconventional training philosophy of short, frequent runs over grinding long miles; the metabolic testing that revealed her unusual fat oxidation capacity; how neurodivergence has been both a superpower and a challenge in her career; and why, at 43, she's feeling more free and energized than ever, even without sponsors.
The conversation doesn't shy away from harder topics. Herron addresses the Wikipedia controversy that cost her the Lululemon partnership, framing it as retaliation for her role as a sports whistleblower who has made multiple reports to USATF and the IAU. She also reflects on watching her records fall to Tara Dower and Caitriona Jennings with genuine enthusiasm, celebrating what she sees as a new era for women in ultrarunning. Whether you're here for the training insights, the fueling science, or the candid discussion of navigating public scrutiny, this episode offers a rare, unfiltered look at one of the most accomplished and polarizing figures in ultrarunning history.
FOR MORE CONTEXT: The Wikipedia controversy referenced in this episode was first reported by Canadian Running Magazine in September 2024 and led to coverage in Runner's World, Women's Health, and other outlets. Herron's husband Conor Holt released a statement taking responsibility for the Wikipedia edits. Herron maintains her own account of events on her website.
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Olympic marathon medalist Molly Seidel joins host Buzz Burrell for a candid conversation about pressure, injury, and her shift into trail and ultra running. Molly unpacks her decision to drop out of the New York City Marathon, the long rebuild after breaking her kneecap, and why the trails feel like the right competitive home for the next phase of her career.
She talks openly about identity, the culture of pain in endurance sports, and the growing doping problem in road running, along with why she's aiming squarely at a Golden Ticket at Black Canyon. Honest, sharp, and unexpectedly funny, this episode offers a rare look at an elite athlete redefining her path.
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This week on The Buzz, Buzz Burrell sits down in Moab, fresh off the finish of the Moab 240, with newly crowned Triple Crown champion Kilian Korth. In a season that redefined what's possible in ultrarunning, Kilian swept the 200-mile series, Tahoe, Bigfoot, and Moab, setting a new cumulative record and proving that success is built on years of setbacks. He opens up about how pulmonary edema, DNFs, and near-collapse moments became the foundation for his breakout year, why he prioritizes rest and recovery over mileage, and how a six-minute dirt nap can reboot the brain mid-race.
From efficient aid-station strategy to fueling exclusively on simple sugars for nearly 60 hours, Kilian breaks down the methodical mindset behind running 200s fast—and the humility it takes to get there. He and Buzz talk sleep deprivation, hallucinations, and the mental games required to stay focused through multiple nights on foot. Plus, Kilian reveals his plans for 2026: the Cocodona 250 and a shot at the Colorado Trail FKT.
Whether you're dreaming of your first 100 or fascinated by the world of multi-day racing, this episode is a masterclass in resilience, efficiency, and the art of going long.
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Kilian Jornet joins The Buzz to talk about his States of Elevation project—72 U.S. 14ers in 31 days, covering 400,000+ feet of vert, 600+ miles on foot, and 2,500 miles by bike. He shares what he learned about the American landscape, endurance, and the body's ability to adapt, plus reflections on public lands, culture, and why the U.S. mountains feel like home.
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They cover:
How Kilian planned and executed his 31-day odyssey
The difference between the Alps and American wilderness
His take on access, adaptation, and why adventure still matters
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In this episode of The Buzz, Buzz Burrell sits down with ultrarunning icon and race director Candice Burt, the woman who put 200-mile races on the map. From founding the Triple Crown of 200s to tackling self-supported FKT attempts on Colorado's infamous Nolan's 14, Candice has redefined what "too far" really means.
They talk about what it takes to stay awake and moving for days on end, the psychology of pushing beyond comfort, and why even the most seasoned athletes need to respect the line between adventure and danger. Candice opens up about her 200-day streak of running 50Ks, the creation of the Arizona Monster 300, and what she's learned from organizing and rescuing runners in some of the toughest races on Earth.
Together, Buzz and Candice explore how sleep, fear, and risk shape performance, and why the most meaningful endurance challenges aren't just about suffering, but about self-reliance, courage, and curiosity.
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Public lands are where we run, where our races unfold, and where many of us feel most at home. But what happens when those protections are rolled back?
In this episode of The Buzz, Buzz Burrell talks with Kat Baker, Executive Director of Runners for Public Lands, about the fight to keep 58 million acres of Forest Service land under the Roadless Rule, why iconic races like Western States, Wasatch, and Hardrock depend on these protections, and how runners can step up as stewards.
Kat shares how RPL is rallying race directors, mapping where courses overlap with roadless areas, and helping runners become partners for land managers under strain. We also explore what runners can learn from climbers and other outdoor groups who've earned their seat at the advocacy table.
If you've ever laced up on a forest trail, this conversation is for you. Public lands aren't guaranteed, they're a gift we all share responsibility for.
🔗 Learn more and join RPL: runnersforpubliclands.org
📅 September 28 is National Public Lands Day - free admission to all U.S. National Parks.This episode of The Buzz is presented by Arc'teryx, supporting stewardship and access to the places we run.
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At this year's UTMB, it wasn't just about who won, it was about what the event has become. In this episode of The Buzz, host Buzz Burrell talks with longtime running journalist Brian Metzler about the transformation of UTMB Week into the sport's most competitive race series, biggest trade show, and all-out cultural festival. From Jim Walmsley's sprint finish at OCC, to Courtney Dauwalter's gritty 10th-place finish at UTMB, to Ruth Croft's commanding win, Buzz and Brian break down the racing itself before zooming out to ask what all the brand activations, media attention, and 175 million livestream views mean for the future of trail running.
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If you enjoyed this episode, check out the rest of the UltraSignup Podcast Network. The Trailhead with Zoë Rom and Brendan Leonard brings humor, heart, and a love of running culture to every episode, and Between Two Pines offers offbeat, laugh-out-loud conversations with Dom Grossman and Andy Pearson. And now, both The Buzz and The Trailhead are on YouTube, so you can listen on the run or watch from home.
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