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In this episode, we are joined by Dr Judy Hinchliffe, a forensic odontologist with more than 30 years of experience working across the UK, New Zealand and Australia.
Judy explains what forensic odontology is, how dental evidence can be used to identify the deceased, and why teeth remain one of the most valuable tools in forensic identification.
We discuss her journey from general dental practice into forensic science, her first experiences of forensic casework, and how she became one of the most respected figures in her field.
Judy also shares her experiences working on some of the world's most significant disaster victim identification operations, including the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami, the Sharm el-Sheikh bombings, the Christchurch earthquake, Australian bushfires and the Ethiopian Airlines disaster, where we had the privilege of working alongside her.
Along the way, we explore the realities of disaster deployments, the importance of teamwork, the emotional impact of identifying victims, and what it means to help provide answers to families during the most difficult of circumstances.
We also discuss one of the most debated topics in forensic science — bite mark analysis — and why this area of forensic odontology has come under scrutiny in recent years.
This is a fascinating insight into a highly specialised area of forensic science and the people who dedicate their careers to identifying the dead and helping bring certainty to the living.
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Working in crime scene investigation means facing things most people will never see. But behind every CSI is a person carrying the weight of what they have seen — and that is a conversation that doesn't get had nearly enough.
In this episode, Ange and Dee are joined by a very familiar face — Suzi Cutler, a former colleague from their time at Northumbria Police. Suzi spent almost 18 years in crime scene investigation — working as a CSI, Crime Scene Manager and Crime Scene Coordinator at Northumbria and Durham Constabulary — before moving into her current role as a UK and overseas specialist trainer, passing on her expertise to the next generation of forensic investigators at home and abroad.
We go under the barrier tape on Suzi's fascinating career journey — from her early days as a CSI inspired by Patricia Cornwell novels, through senior leadership roles, and into the world of international forensic training. We also explore what a single national police force could mean for forensic science and the training of CSIs across the UK.
But at the heart of this episode is a conversation that really matters. Suzi speaks with extraordinary candour about her experience of PTSD — how it crept up on her, what it felt like, and why she believes that if it can happen to her, it can happen to anyone. It is a powerful, honest and important conversation about the mental health toll of a career spent working with trauma, and why reducing the stigma around asking for help could change — and save — lives.
This is the third episode in which we have explored mental health in the world of forensic science and policing. It is a subject we are deeply passionate about, and we are so grateful to Suzi for having the courage to share her story.
⚠️ This episode discusses PTSD and the mental health impact of working in forensic science and policing. Listener discretion is advised.
💙 If you are struggling with your mental health, please know that help is available:
Mind Blue Light Programme — specialist mental health support for emergency services workers: mind.org.uk/bluelight
Oscar Kilo — the national police wellbeing service: oscarkilo.org.uk
Mind — for everyone: mind.org.uk or call 0300 123 3393
Samaritans — available 24/7: call 116 123
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For our one-year anniversary special, we thought we’d do something a little different and take it right back to where a lot of this started — the two of us working double crewed as CSIs.
In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we go back under the barrier tape and revisit some of the funniest, strangest, most chaotic and memorable jobs we attended together over the years.
From turning up to a “routine” criminal damage and finding a human knuckle… to one of the most shocking car park scenes we’ve ever dealt with… to navigating a house full of dog mess while being repeatedly assaulted by an overfriendly Alsatian — this episode is full of the moments that never make it into the documentaries, but stay with you forever when you work in crime scene investigation.
Along the way, we talk about the realities of working as CSIs, the dark humour that gets people through difficult jobs, and some of the absurd situations you find yourself in when you spend your days going under the barrier tape.
This one is funny, chaotic, slightly disgusting in places… and probably the most “Ange and Dee” episode we’ve recorded so far.
We’re also incredibly grateful to everyone who’s listened, supported us, reviewed the show, shared episodes or simply come along for the ride over the last year.
Whether you’ve been here since Episode 1 or you’ve only recently joined us — thank you for spending this last year under the barrier tape with us. 🚔
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On 22nd May 2017, a suicide bomber detonated a homemade explosive device in the foyer of Manchester Arena as thousands of concertgoers — many of them children — were leaving an Ariana Grande concert. Twenty-two innocent people were killed and hundreds more were injured. It was the biggest terrorist attack the UK had seen since the 7/7 bombings.
This episode is released one week before the 9th anniversary of that night.
In this episode, Ange and Dee are joined once again by Bob Gallagher MBE — former Senior Crime Scene Investigator, Crime Scene Manager and forensic and digital investigations lead at Greater Manchester Police's Counter Terrorism Unit. Bob received his MBE for his services to counter terrorism policing, including his role leading the forensic response to the Manchester Arena bombing.
Bob takes us under the barrier tape on the investigation — sharing details that go far beyond what the public ever gets to see. He talks us through the painstaking process of disaster victim identification, the recovery and reconstruction of the device, and the forensic pursuit of Hashim Abedi — the bomber's brother — who had fled to Libya.
He also reveals the remarkable forensic breakthrough that helped secure the case: a 20-year-old heel prick blood test taken at birth, which provided the DNA evidence needed to identify Hashim and ultimately bring him to justice. Bob was in court at the Old Bailey when the guilty verdict was returned — and he admits he shed a tear.
This is a deeply moving, forensically fascinating, and important account of what it truly took to investigate one of the darkest nights in recent British history — told by the man at the heart of it.
This episode is dedicated to the 22 lives lost on 22nd May 2017, and to all those whose lives were changed forever that night.
If you have been affected by the Manchester Arena attack, or would like to find out more about the memorial or access support, please visit 💙 manchesterattacksupport.org.uk
💙 In memory of the 22 lives lost on 22nd May 2017:
Saffie-Rose Roussos, 8
Nell Jones, 14
Sorrell Leczkowski, 14
Eilidh MacLeod, 14
Megan Hurley, 15
Olivia Campbell-Hardy, 15
Chloe Rutherford, 17 & Liam Curry, 19
Georgina Callander, 18
Courtney Boyle, 19 & Philip Tron, 32
John Atkinson, 28
Martyn Hett, 29
Kelly Brewster, 32
Angelika Klis, 39 & Marcin Klis, 42
Elaine McIver, 43
Lisa Lees, 43 & Alison Howe, 45
Michelle Kiss, 45
Wendy Fawell, 50
Jane Tweddle, 51
Forever in our hearts. Never forgotten. 💙
⚠️ This episode contains detailed descriptions of a terrorist attack, mass casualties, and graphic forensic content. Listener discretion is advised.
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What does it take to move from attending routine crime scenes to leading the forensic response to some of the most complex cases in the UK?
In this episode, Ange and Dee are joined by Bob Gallagher MBE — former Senior Crime Scene Investigator and Crime Scene Manager with Greater Manchester Police. Bob was awarded his MBE for services to forensic and digital investigations, including his role in the forensic response to the Manchester Arena bombing.
From the murders committed by Harold Shipman and the extensive exhumations that followed… to the aftermath of the Manchester Arena bombing… Bob has worked on some of the most significant and complex investigations in modern UK policing.
He joined GMP as a CSI in 1997 after a career in the Royal Navy, and went on to progress into senior forensic leadership roles — overseeing major murder investigations and making critical decisions under extreme operational pressure.
Bob reflects on managing multiple murder scenes in a single night during what he describes as a "weekend from hell," and what it really feels like to make forensic decisions when everything is happening at once.
We also hear about his move into Counter Terrorism, leading GMP's forensic and digital investigations unit — and the moment he received the call offering him that role while still at a live crime scene.
This is a rare insight into what it truly means to work at the sharp end of major crime — beyond what the public ever sees, and often beyond what is ever spoken about.
⚠️ This episode contains descriptions of graphic crime scenes and violent deaths. Listener discretion is advised.
🎙️ Bob will return for a dedicated episode on the Manchester Arena investigation in a fortnight's time.
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What does nearly 50 years at the frontline of forensic science look like — and what does it tell us about one of Britain's most enduring cold cases?
In this episode, Ange and Dee are joined by a very special guest and long-time mentor, Brian Rankin — former senior forensic scientist with the Home Office Forensic Science Service, former President of the Chartered Society of Forensic Sciences, and one of the most respected voices in UK forensic science education and quality standards.
Brian takes us on a fascinating journey through his career, from the early days as a forensic chemist in the late 1970s, through the transformative impact of DNA, the miscarriages of justice that forced the profession to raise its standards, and the controversial closure of the Forensic Science Service — a decision he believes the UK is still paying the price for today.
We also go under the barrier tape on one of the most debated cases in British forensic history: the murder of Jill Dando. Shot on her doorstep in Fulham on 26th April 1999, her case remains unsolved to this day. Brian offers an expert forensic perspective — including the pivotal role of firearms discharge residue evidence and why a conviction was eventually quashed. This episode drops ahead of the 26th anniversary of her death on 26th April, and her case continues to raise important questions about forensic science and what it truly takes to get it right.
A wide-ranging, thought-provoking conversation with one of the finest forensic minds in the UK.
⚠️ This episode discusses the details of a murder investigation. Listener discretion is advised.
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He went from attending crime scenes… to leading the teams behind them.
In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we’re joined by Peter Hunter — a former Crime Scene Investigator (CSI) who is now Head of Forensics at Staffordshire Police.
We started our CSI journey with Pete back in 2008, and in this episode we explore how a career in forensics really evolves — including what it’s like when you go from attending scenes… to leading the people who do.
We cover first scenes, early mistakes, differences between police forces, and the reality of working in crime scene investigation in the UK.
Plus, Pete talks us through one of his first complex murder investigations, and how forensic evidence helped piece together what really happened.
If you’re interested in true crime, forensics, or what really happens behind the barrier tape — this episode is for you.
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In October 2009, 50 year old Alan Wood was living a quiet life in rural Lincolnshire. A gentle and well-liked man, he worked nights at Sainsbury’s, ran a small gardening business, and enjoyed spending time with friends at his local pub.
But after what appeared to be a completely routine evening, Alan returned home — and was never seen alive again.
Three days later he was found dead in his living room, the victim of an extremely violent attack that shocked even experienced investigators.
What makes this case particularly unusual is the amount of evidence recovered. Police identified a full male DNA profile at the crime scene, as well as a distinctive footwear mark. There is also CCTV footage of someone using Alan’s bank cards, and an E-fit of a potential suspect. Yet almost 17 years later, the murder remains unsolved.
In this episode, we take a closer look at the evidence, the investigation, and the unanswered questions that still surround the murder of Alan Wood.
Because despite the DNA evidence, CCTV, and multiple investigative leads — the person responsible has never been identified, and someone somewhere knows who it is.
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This episode covers the unsolved murder of Alan Wood, one of the most brutal and mysterious unsolved cases in Lincolnshire.
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In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we continue the conversation that began in Episode 14, where Ange shared her experience of being assaulted and feeling let down by the criminal justice system.
This time, we’re joined by Angela Whitworth — the friend who was with Ange on the night of the assault and who was also seriously injured, suffering a broken arm that required surgery.
Ang talks through what happened from her perspective, the physical and emotional impact of the assault, and what it felt like to navigate the criminal justice process as a victim. She also speaks briefly about her career as an archaeologist and forensic anthropologist, including work in disaster victim identification, humanitarian crises, and as a forensic specialist for the International Committee of the Red Cross — giving important context to how it felt to suddenly find herself on the other side of the system she had trusted.
This episode is about listening to victims, understanding the lasting consequences of violence, and recognising how procedural failures can compound trauma long after the event itself.
💛 Thank you for listening and for supporting conversations that centre victims’ voices.
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This week we’re joined by Justine Shanahan — a CSI with over 25 years’ experience and a part-time lecturer at the University of Lincoln.
Justine takes us back to the beginning: a teenager spending her pocket money on true crime books (long before CSI was cool), arranging her own attachments, and attending a post-mortem at just 17.
And then comes the moment every new CSI fears most: her first night on call — and she’s deployed to a double murder!
In this episode, Justine shares:
- What it was really like starting as a CSI in the early 2000s
- Major crime investigations early in her career in a “quiet” county
- The long-term impact the job can have on mental health
- Why she loves teaching and what she thinks CSI will look like in the future
- The one case that still haunts her — the unsolved murder of Alan Wood (2009)
As always, we take you back under the barrier tape — real stories, realities, and the parts of the job TV never shows.
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In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we focus on the murder of Judith Richardson, a 77-year-old woman living independently in Hexham, Northumberland, whose life was taken in August 2011.
Judith was known in her community for her kindness, her love of music, and her regular attendance at organ recitals at Hexham Abbey. She lived a quiet life, rooted in routine and connection.
Her murder came to light after the discovery of a discarded handbag — a seemingly ordinary item that led police to Judith’s home. Once she was found, the handbag became central to the investigation, triggering CCTV enquiries and ultimately helping to identify the suspect: Graeme Jarman. Known for his extremely violent past, his identification sparked a nationwide manhunt, turning the investigation into a race against time to apprehend him and prevent any further crimes.
We explore how forensic evidence, CCTV, and careful investigative work came together — including Ange’s role as crime scene photographer at the post-mortem — while keeping Judith at the heart of the story.
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In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, it’s just the two of us — and we’re sharing a case that hits much closer to home.
Angela recounts her experience of being burgled while asleep in her own home — and what followed was a forensic and investigative process that raised serious questions about triage decisions, evidence recovery, and the wider criminal justice system.
From being told no CSI would attend, to carrying out our own scene examination and uncovering footwear marks that later linked multiple burglaries, this episode explores what happens when assumptions are made too early — and when vital evidence is dismissed.
We discuss the realities of being a victim of crime after years working as investigators, the risks of phone-based crime triage, and why context, intelligence, and evidence-led decisions matter far more than tick-box processes.
As always, we go back under the barrier tape to talk honestly about where systems work, where they don’t, and why evidence should always be allowed to speak for itself.
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In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we’re joined by Charlotte Thorpe, a former Crime Scene Investigator, Crime Scene Manager, and Senior CSI, who spent over 20 years with Kent Police.
Charlie has worked on thousands of crime scenes, from volume crime through to serious and complex investigations, and has led teams through some of the most challenging moments of their careers. She shares what it’s really like learning the role from the ground up, being thrown in at the deep end, and building confidence through experience — not textbooks.
We discuss early career mistakes, major scenes, the realities of forensic work behind the scenes, and how the job impacts you over time. Charlie also reflects on leadership, mentoring new CSIs, and the importance of looking after yourself and your team — something she continues to do today in her current role as a trainer.
An honest, insightful episode for anyone working in forensics, considering the career, or wanting to understand what happens underneath the barrier tape.
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Merry Christmas! In this Boxing Day episode, we lift the festive tape and share what it’s really like to work as a CSI over Christmas and New Year.
From frozen crime scenes to festive chaos, hear real stories from our days in the field — the good, the bad, and the downright ridiculous:
• Christmas Day shifts you can’t dodge
• The forbidden “Q word” and its consequences
• Burglaries, assaults and alcohol-fuelled incidents
• Technical winter nightmares: batteries dying, blood in snow, and footwear marks
• Stuck vans, burnt clutches, and blizzards
• The emotional impact of festive crimes
• Camaraderie, office decorations, microwave party food & keeping spirits high
Funny, honest and eye-opening — a look at the human side of forensic work when everyone else is celebrating.
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In this episode, we sit down with Dr Gary Currie — the CSI, Crime Scene Manager, national trainer, and senior lecturer who has shaped countless careers… including ours.
Gary reflects on more than 30 years under the barrier tape: from the early SOCO days to modern CSI work, the culture shifts, the chaos, the humour that keeps you going, and the moments that stay with you long after leaving the job.
We talk openly about:
🧪 What CSI work used to look like vs now
🚔 Stories only a real SOCO could tell
🧠 Coping mechanisms, hindsight & mental health
🎓 Teaching and influencing the next generation
🎶 And how Gary created our podcast theme tune
It’s honest, funny, and deeply personal — a conversation about the realities of a career that changed lives!
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Former Detective Sergeant Joanne Mackel joins us for a deeply personal conversation about her life, her policing career, and the decades-long search for answers surrounding her mum’s disappearance.
Joanne’s mother, Ann Law, went missing from Newcastle in 1973. Ann’s body has never been found, and it is long believed that she was murdered and buried by her husband — Joanne’s father, Gilbert Law. Growing up in the shadow of a flawed investigation, Joanne eventually pursued a career in policing — determined to be the officer she wished had been there for her family.
In this episode, Joanne shares her experiences as a child during her mum’s disappearance, her journey through serious crime policing as a Detective Sergeant, and the resilience, humour, and honesty she’s carried throughout her life. She also talks about the creation of Dig Up Your Mam, the six-part podcast hosted by award-winning journalist Julie Bindel, which documents her family’s story and her ongoing fight for the truth.
This is an emotional, insightful, and at times surprisingly funny conversation — a testament to Joanne’s strength and determination to keep her mum’s memory alive.
Content warning: This episode discusses domestic abuse, murder, and long-term trauma. Please listen with care.
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In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we sit down with expert investigator and diving specialist Peter Faulding, Founder of Specialist Group International (SGI). Peter shares his remarkable journey — from early careers in emergency response to becoming a leading voice in underwater search and recovery operations.
We dive into the technology behind Peter’s work, the hidden challenges of interpreting sonar, and some of his most notable cases.
We then turn to the high-profile Nicola Bulley case — discussing the sonar footage released by SGI, the collaboration and challenges between private search teams and police, and the College of Policing review into how the investigation was handled. Peter speaks candidly about his role, the public scrutiny, and what accountability means in forensic search and major investigations.
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This week’s episode of The Crime Scene Insiders is a deeply personal one.
Ange opens up about an assault she and a friend experienced three years ago, and the long, exhausting journey through the criminal justice system that followed. As someone who’s spent years working within the sector, Ange offers a unique perspective on how victims can be let down by a system that’s supposed to protect them.
In this longer-than-usual episode, we discuss the flaws in the investigation, the impact of the process, and why it’s so important for victims’ voices to be heard.
It’s an important conversation about crime, justice, and the real-world consequences when the system fails.
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In this episode of The Crime Scene Insiders, we’re joined by James Harris — former City of London Police detective, specialist in major crime investigations, and one of the UK’s most highly trained investigative interview specialists.
James shares insights from his policing career, including his approach to interviewing suspects and witnesses, and the realities behind major crime investigations. He also talks about his transition into academia, training the next generation of criminal investigators, and what it really takes to succeed in policing today.
If you’re fascinated by investigative interviewing, major crime cases, and the behind-the-scenes world of policing, this is an episode not to miss.
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This week on The Crime Scene Insiders, we’re joined by Lindsy Slamon as she reflects on her remarkable 20+ year career across roles as a Crime Scene Investigator, manager, and coordinator. From gripping cases—including the high-profile Dale Cregan investigation—to the unforgettable moments that kept her on her toes, Lindsay shares stories that are equal parts fascinating and entertaining.
Now transitioning into policing education, she inspires the next generation with her wealth of experience, offering insights, humour, and hard-earned lessons from a career spent behind the tape.
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