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In this episode of The Dugout, I share my month of humanitarian aid work at the U.S.-Mexico border and reflect on how immigration, borders, and carcerality intersect with personal and political struggles. From witnessing the cruelty of border enforcement to unpacking my own familyās experiences with incarceration and deportation, I explore the deeper connections between structural violence and the fight for justice.-------
EPISODE CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
05:28 Leaving to do humanitarian air work at the US/Mexican border
06:08 Reading A CULTURE OF CRUELTY and thinking about xenophobic violence
09:18 Connecting state violence at the border to how the US exports violence abroad
12:58 Check out THE DUGOUT on Patreon
13:55 Visiting the US/Mexican border wall and reflecting on having an undocumented father
20:40 Learning more about how Border Patrol operates at the border
23:40 Reflecting on my last week of humanitarian aid work
28:46 My last day of humanitarian aid work
29:33 Outro-------TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IMMIGRATION AND THE BORDER...š The Dugout IMMIGRATION AND BORDER Book List [AFFILIATE LINKS]...https://bookshop.org/lists/on-immigration-and-borders
--š Migrating to Prison: Americaās Obsession with Locking Up Immigrants by CĆ©sar CuauhtĆ©moc GarcĆa HernĆ”ndez: https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781620978313
--š Violent Borders: Refugees and the Right to Move: https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781784784713
--š Border Patrol Nation: Dispatches from the Front Lines of Homeland Security: https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9780872866317--------------ARTICLES...š "The Betrayal of American Border Policy" by Jonathan Blitzer, The New Yorker [An in-depth look at the challenges and contradictions in U.S. border policy, highlighting the experiences of migrants and those assisting them]: --------------Social Media Links:Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more:Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more:
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In this episode of The Dugout, weāre thrilled to welcome Margaret Killjoy, a prolific author, musician, crafter, and unapologetic anarchist. Margaret shares her journey from growing up as a "confused goth kid" in the suburbs to discovering anarchism through punk subculture and anti-globalization movements. We dive into the role of speculative fiction as a medium for radical imagination and discuss the intersections of identity, politics, and art. From DIY zines to the lasting influence of Steampunk Magazine, Margaret reflects on her experiences building and engaging with anarchist communities.
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WHO IS MARGARET KILLJOY?
Margaret Killjoy is an American author, musician, and podcast host. She is best known for her speculative fiction in the fantasy and folk horror genres, in particular for her two-book Danielle Cain series. Killjoy is involved in several musical projects across genres, including black metal, neofolk, and electronica.
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š If you want to read their new book Sapling Cage you can buy it here - https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781558613317and here are some links to our favoritesšA Country of Ghosts - https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781849354486š Escape from Incel Island! - https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781958911020š The Lamb Will Slaughter the Lion -https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9780765397362š We Won't Be Here Tomorrow: And Other Stories -https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781958911020remember purchasing from this link kicks a little back to us as well!--- OTHER MENTIONED MEDIA:š The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity: https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9780374157357š Said the Pot to the Kettle: Feminist Theory for Anarchist Men: https://azinelibrary.org/approved/said-pot-kettle-1.pdf---Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more:š Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/š Substack: https://tdugout.substack.com/š YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpodš Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPodš Website: https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast
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In this episode, we delve into the anticipated changes under President-elect Donald Trump's second term, focusing on his proposed policies in education and immigration. We explore the potential dismantling of the Department of Education, the introduction of universal school choice, and the impact on LGBTQIA protections. Additionally, we examine the administration's plans for immigration reform, including mass deportations, the end of birthright citizenship, and the merging of ICE and Border Patrol. Join us as we analyze these developments and discuss their implications for the future.
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ARTICLES MENTIONED…
"A Look at the Potential Impact of Shutting Down the Department of Education" – NPR, November 14, 2024. (npr.org)
"Donald Trump Education Changes: What to Expect" – CNN, November 17, 2024. (cnn.com)
"House Bill 8 Would Force Schools to Notify Parents Before Teaching Sexuality Content" – Ohio Capital Journal, June 12, 2023. (ohiocapitaljournal.com)
"Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)" – Pillsbury Law, December 2024. (pillsburylaw.com)
"What Do Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy Plan to Do with DOGE?" – Al Jazeera, November 25, 2024. (aljazeera.com)
"How Trump Can Hobble the Education Department Without Abolishing It" – Education Week, December 2024. (edweek.org)
"Trump Border Czar Tom Homan Discusses Family Detention Centers and Deportation" – NBC News, December 2024. (nbcnews.com)
"Trump’s Mass Deportations Could Split 4 Million Mixed-Status Families" – NBC News, November 2024. (nbcnews.com)
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ABOUT THE EPISODE
In this episode of The Dugout, we delve into the intersections of desirability politics, revolutionary violence, and media spectacle, exploring how attractiveness shapes public perceptions of political acts. Using the Luigi Manjoni case as a focal point, we ask: Why does his "hotness" dominate the narrative? How does desirability dilute or amplify revolutionary discourse? Drawing on texts like Blood in My Eye by George Jackson and Belly of the Beast by Deshaun Harrison, we examine how aesthetics, anti-blackness, and capitalism intersect to influence activism, media, and power. Join us as we unpack the complexities of desire as both an entry point and obstacle to meaningful political action. Check the show notes for resources to continue the conversation!
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TO LEARN MORE...
"Revolutionary Suicide" by Huey P. Newton: https://bookshop.org/a/23229/9780143105329
"Belly of the Beast" by DaShaun Harrison: https://bookshop.org/a/23229/9781623175979
"Black Against The Empire": https://bookshop.org/a/23229/9780520293281
[affiliate links]
š„ 1995's "PANTHER" [movie]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1PmnZ9hejw&pp=ygULcGFudGVyIDE5OTU%3D
"The Revolutionary Aesthetics of the Black Panther Party & Its Impact on Fashion Today" [article]: https://kansascitydefender.com/fashion/black-panther-party-fashion-aesthetic/
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In the second half of our conversation with Mutt, we explore the transformative potential of Black anarchism through the lens of Muntjacās work and the radical publishing efforts of Sedition Press. Mutt shares insights on Black diasporic life, politics, and resistance against the forces of Babylon.
We discuss topics like:
Intersectional critiques of activism and patriarchy within movements. The revolutionary legacy of Black autonomous politics. Anti-racist organizing in the UK and global solidarity. Community self-defense against fascism and the state.-
Links Mentioned In Episode:
š Muntjac's Work & Projects
š A Black Autonomy Reader (Incomplete)
š The Final Straw Radio Interview with Mutt-
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DIRECT ACTION 101. EP 1 - In Direct Action 101 Episode 1, I take you through the last ten years of my journey in grassroots organizing. From navigating police tactics and planning marches to holding meetings and developing strategies for change, I share key lessons that have shaped my path. Whether youāre new to activism or a seasoned organizer, this episode offers insights on direct action, anarchism, and the powerful movements that have shaped our world. #DirectAction101 #Anarchism #Activism #Organizing #BLM #StandingRock #MutualAid #GeorgeFloydRebellion #SecurityCulture #RadicalMedia
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TO LEARN MORE ABOUT TOPICS IN THE VIDEO
š STANDING ROCK - "Black Snake Killaz" (doc): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dWeg_jHdK0&t=2523s&pp=ygUSYmxhY2sgc25ha2Uga2lsbGF6
š BLACK LIVES MATTER - "Whose Streets" (doc): http://www.whosestreetsfilm.com/
š MY BOOK - "WHEN THEY TELL YOU TO BE GOOD".... https://bookshop.org/a/23229/9781953534422
š SECURITY CULTURE - "What Is Security Culture" (zine): https://www.sproutdistro.com/catalog/zines/security/what-is-security-culture-a-guide-to-staying-safe/
š BOEING 5 AND LEGAL DEFENSE WORK: https://organizingmythoughts.org/challenging-the-war-machine-the-boeing-5s-legal-struggle/
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EPISODE CHAPTERS
00:00 ā Introduction to Direct Action 101
01:23 ā Childhood lessons on immigration, the carceral system, and becoming radicalized in high school
09:28 ā College years: BLM movement, Ferguson protests, and student organizing
24:16 ā Adult radicalization: Labor organizing, anarchism, and witnessing Nuit Debout in France
33:52 ā Joining the Standing Rock movement, complexities of social movements, and dealing with PTSD
45:11 ā Lessons from Standing Rock and 2016 activism
48:08 ā Moving to Ohio and organizing with the Black Queer and Intersectional Collective
51:15 ā Mutual aid work at the U.S.-Mexico border in 2018
54:19 ā The 2020 George Floyd rebellion: Abolition, state repression, and questioning traditional marches
58:32 ā The importance of security culture in activism
59:33ā Publishing When They Tell You to Be Good (WTTYTBG) and moving to NYC
01:01:08 ā Ohio organizing and legal defense work for the Boeing 5
01:04:19 ā Radical YouTube, launching The Dugout podcast, and anarchist media
01:07:09 ā Humanitarian support work at the border
01:08:30 ā Q&A: Reflections on organizing and personal growth
01:13:33 ā Outro: Whatās next for Direct Action 101
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ABOUT THIS EPISODEIn this recap and reflection on Season 1 of the podcast, we talk about what goals we had when we started, what we've learned from this project so far, our favorite episodes, and what's next for Season 2. #TheDugout #BlackAnarchism
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MENTIONED MEDIA AND RESOURCES:
HELP "FREE POLO": https://opencollective.com/free-polo LUCRETIA MCEVIL (YOUTUBE): https://www.youtube.com/@lucretia_macevil-
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ABOUT THE EPISODE
I sat down to talk about the chaotic year of 2024 and some observations I have while walking away from it - from the UHC incident to social media to class consciousness. #politics #2024
CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro01:15 - How HUMOR is a potential vehicle to CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS05:58 - The sinister wealth behind Trump's upcoming cabinet07:24 - What is CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS in the digital age?11:19 - How IDENTITY POLITICS and KAMALA HARRIS lost in 202415:16 - Are ANARCHISTS a part of the American Left?21:20 - ANTI-REPRESSION work will be vital coming forward25:29 - The sinister danger behind ART becoming CONTENT28:33 - Outro and What's Coming in 2025
SHOW NOTES
Trump assembling US cabinet of billionaires worth combined $340bn...https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/06/trump-us-cabinet-billionaires
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Jordan reads through Klee Benally's No Spiritual Surrender: Indigenous Anarchy In Defense Of the Sacred chapter Indigenous Rooted Direct Action
READ THE BOOK... No Spiritual Surrender: Indigenous Anarchy In Defense Of the Sacred
ABOUT THE BOOK... No Spiritual Surrender: Indigenous Anarchy in Defense of the Sacred is a searing anti-colonial analysis rooted in frontline experience. Klee Benally (DinƩ) unrelentingly agitates against colonial politics towards Indigenous autonomy and total liberation of NahasdzƔƔn (Mother Earth).
WHO IS... KLEE BENALLY: Klee Benally is a DinƩ (Navajo) musician, traditional dancer, artist, filmmaker, & Indigenous anarchist. He currently lives in Flagstaff, Arizona. Klee is originally from Black Mesa and has worked nearly all of his life at the front lines in struggles to protect Indigenous sacred lands. Klee provides strategic planning and direct action training with Indigenous Action Media. Klee helped establish TƔala Hooghan Infoshop, Protect the Peaks, Outta Your Backpack Media, and volunteers with Haul No. Klee has produced numerous documentaries and facilitated strategic
planning for Indigenous justice campaigns. Has been an entertainer with Native American Music Award winning rock group Blackfire & the internationally acclaimed
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MUSIC FEATURED...
Intro Song: Blackfire - Mean Things Happenin' In This World
Outro Song: Blackfire Peaks Song
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In this first part of our interview with Mutt, a revolutionary and key figure in the UKās Black anarchist movement, we dive deep into radical propaganda, racialization, and the power of decentralized living. Mutt, involved with MUNTJACāa collective of POC anarchistsāshares their journey through the punk scene, their radicalization in response to the racism of growing up in England and Scotland, and their commitment to anti-capitalist and autonomous ways of life. We also discuss the limits of anti-organizational activism and the importance of mutual aid, including the zine How to Deal with the Cost of Living Hike, which offers practical resistance tips.
Listen in to explore Muntjacās work and Muttās unique perspective on Black anarchism.-Links Mentioned: ā¢ https://linktr.ee/muntjac ā¢ https://seditionist.uk/distro/readables/books/a-black-autonomy-reader-incomplete/ ā¢ https://thefinalstrawradio.noblogs.org/post/2024/09/29/mutt-on-the-incomplete-black-autonomy-reader/
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In this episode, we unpack the 2024 election results and discuss the urgent need for organizing beyond the ballot box. With a Republican-controlled House, Senate, and presidency, what lies ahead is a reality where marginalized communities, especially immigrants and Black, Indigenous, and POC groups, face new threats. We explore how historical patterns of oppression repeat in America and why itās essential to move from disillusionment to action.
From mutual aid networks and direct action to digital security and grassroots resilience, we discuss practical ways to build community power. This conversation also looks at how resistance movements, such as Standing Rock and the Black Panther Party, offer valuable lessons on solidarity and collective care. Whether itās organizing in your local spaces, educating yourself and others, or engaging in mutual aid, this episode provides insight into the steps we can take to resist injustice and work towards a more liberated future.
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Timestamps
00:00 Intro 02:26 Unpacking Post-Election Shame and Voting Demographics
04:04 Why and How America Repeats Itself
07:00 Who voted for Trump in 2024?
10:52 White Supremacy and Western Individualism Won?
15:30 The Dems Failed Their Base About Gaza
17:27 Dealing with ANGER and DEFEAT
20:21 Why We Must Resist
33:47 COMING 2025 - A COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE TO DIRECT ACTION
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Research List:
āMutual Aid: Building Solidarity During This Crisis (and the Next)ā by Dean Spade
Black Snake Killaz (documentary on Standing Rock)
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In this episode, Prince and Jordan discuss the life and legacy of Illinois Black Panther Party Chairman Fred Hampton. Known for his powerful leadership and dedication to Black liberation, Fred Hampton helped unite people across races and backgrounds to fight for justice. As a young leader in the Black Panther Party, he launched community programs and spoke out boldly against oppression, inspiring people far beyond Chicago. Tragically, Hampton’s life was cut short in 1969 when he was assassinated in a police raid, but his ideas and work continue to influence movements for equality today.
Also, to learn more, check out one of the first Dugout episodes, where Prince and Jordan also talk about Judas and the Black Messiah, a film about Fred Hampton’s life and betrayal by FBI informant William O’Neal, comparing the movie’s portrayal to historical accounts. Listen in for a deep dive into Hampton’s role in the Black Panther Party and why his message still matters.
Resources to Learn More:
Books [ AFFILIATE LINKS] :
- The Assassination of Fred Hampton: How the FBI and the Chicago Police Murdered a Black Panther by Jeffrey Haas: https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781641603218
- From the Bullet to the Ballot: The Illinois Chapter of the Black Panther Party and Racial Coalition Politics in Chicago by Jakobi Williams: https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781469622101
Films:
- Judas and the Black Messiah (2021) – A biographical drama depicting Hampton’s life and betrayal.
- The Murder of Fred Hampton (1971) – A documentary capturing his leadership and the circumstances of his death.
YouTube Videos:
• JUDAS AND THE BLACK MESSIAH - Official Trailer
• Fred Hampton: The Revolutionary Voice | Legacy of a Leader
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In this quick episode of The Dugout, Iām sharing my immediate reaction to Donald Trumpās presidential win and what I think it means for all of us. This result brings up so many memories from his last term, and I canāt help but feel anxious about whatās to come ā from harsher immigration policies to deeper divisions in the country. I talk about why I think we need to rethink our role in the āAmerican projectā and why history keeps repeating itself in this country.Drawing from movements around the world, I explore how we can push back against these forces, resist fascism, and stand together. This isnāt just about voting ā itās about finding ways to protect ourselves and each other. If youāre wondering where we go from here, join me as I dig into the deeper issues and the urgent need for collective action.
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In this episode, I dive deep into the radical choice of rejecting U.S. presidential elections and examine why voting might not be the answer for achieving true liberation, especially for Black and Indigenous communities. For generations, weāve been told that the ballot box is the path to progress. But history shows us something different: from slavery to Jim Crow to mass incarceration, the U.S. electoral system has consistently failed to deliver justice or freedom for the oppressed.Drawing on the words of Black radical activists and thinkers, I break down the myth of the ālesser evilā and reveal how voting often serves to maintain a system built on control. Weāll talk about the roots of voting as a tool of social compliance, how the promise of democracy has let down marginalized communities time and time again, and why some believe that real change lies in resisting the system entirely, not participating in it.-Media Mentioned:š History of the Electoral College and Founding Fathersā Intentions - https://www.history.com/news/electoral-college-founding-fathers-constitutional-conventionš Presidents Who Lost the Popular Vote - https://www.history.com/news/presidents-electoral-college-popular-voteš Obamaās Comments on Black Voter Turnout and Kamala Harris - https://www.npr.org/2024/10/10/g-s1-27633/barack-obama-kamala-harris-black-men-pennsylvaniaš AIPACās Influence on U.S. Elections - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/16/congress-election-pro-israel-lobby-aipacš Three-Fifths Compromise and the Racist Origins of the Electoral College - https://www.teenvogue.com/story/electoral-college-slavery-three-fifths-compromise-historyš Malcolm Xās āThe Ballot or the Bulletā Speech - http://www.edchange.org/multicultural/speeches/malcolm_x_ballot.html-EPISODE CHAPTERS0:00 - 5:56 INTRO: Means TV & What Drives Anti-Voting Beliefs?5:56 - 11:30 On The Validity of Not Wanting to Vote and Needing More11:30 - 29:04 How the Electoral College Came From A Fear of Democracy29:04 - 33:54 The Racist Motivations of The Electoral College and the Three-Fifths Compromise33:54 - 41:30 MLK on Voting in GIVE US THE BALLOT speech41:30 - 54:43 On Black Self-Defense and Malcolm X on Voting in THE BALLOT OR THE BULLET speech54:54 - 01:04:36 Why Weāre Told to Vote: Unpacking the Faulty Logic01:04:36 - -01:08:34 Blackness, Obama, and Voting Shame: Whatās Really at Stake?01:08:34 - 01:17:38 INTERVIEW w Jordan M on Abolition and Voting01:17:38 - 01:26:10 How Trauma and Resistance Make a Path Forward01:26:10 - End | OUTRO - How can we resist moving forward?
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In this episode, we explore the complex legacy of Black voting rights, their symbolic significance, and the limitations of the ballot in achieving true Black autonomy. We journey from the Civil Rights Movement to modern abolitionist efforts, unpacking how Black political representation has been both a step forward and a limitation. We question whether voting alone is sufficient for liberation in a system designed to uphold white supremacy and economic exploitation. Join us as we discuss how movements for Black autonomy intersect with global anti-colonial struggles and envision a future beyond voting.
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BOOKS TO BUY TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST... [affiliate links]
"The Souls of Black Folk" by W.E.B. Du Bois: https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781680920543
"Race, Reform, and Rebellion: The Second Reconstruction in Black America" by Manning Marable" : https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781578061549-Media and Resourcesš Malcolm Xās āThe Ballot or the Bulletā Speech: Analyzing the limits of voting within a white-dominated system: http://www.edchange.org/multicultural/speeches/malcolm_x_ballot.htmlš Kwame Tureās Perspectives on Black Power and Voting: Insight into how Black autonomy requires more than the ballot: https://www.panafricanperspective.com/kwamt.htmlš SNCC on Economic and Political Power: Resources on SNCCās shift post-Voting Rights Act.: https://snccdigital.org/our-voices/emergence-black-power/political-economic/š What We Want - Civil Rights Teaching: A deep dive into historical demands for political and economic rights: https://www.civilrightsteaching.org/resource/what-we-wantš āVoting Is Not Harm Reduction: An Indigenous Perspectiveā: A critical Indigenous take on the limitations of the vote: https://www.indigenousaction.org/voting-is-not-harm-reduction-an-indigenous-perspective/š MLKās āGive Us the Ballotā Speech (1955): The historical significance of this speech and its relevance today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPre-KEFiVs-
TIME STAMPS
Intro (0:00)
The DIY Nature of Black Existence (2:57)
The Civil Rights Movement (5:33)
āGive Us the Ballotā Speech by MLK (9:33)
The Civil Rights Era vs. the Black Power Era (31:37)
The Era of Moving from a Snake in the Militant to Black Autonomy (35:42)
COINTELPRO and Government Repression (44:41)
What Has Shifted Our Conceptions of Black Life, Voting, and Autonomy? (56:55)
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The 2024 election season has been a grim reminder of the failings of the U.S. political system. In this mega-compilation, we dive into the ways in which the election cycle exposed the deep-seated issues of American fascism, the limitations of the two-party system, and the ongoing crisis in Palestine. We unpack the hollow rhetoric, state violence, and corporate interests that dominate U.S. politics, revealing how they perpetuate injustice both at home and abroad. This video challenges the idea that voting alone can address these systemic problems and makes the case for radical alternatives to break free from the cycles of oppression.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
01:54 On WEB DuBois and Black Capitalism
13:53 Why you can't vote away FASCISM
53:40 Why Abolitionists don't trust Kamala Harris
01:19:11 How MEMES ARE PACIFYING US to fascism
01:49:20 Why The US Is Fascist
02:55:54 Why Fascism Needs A Hero Like Donald Trump
03:11:18 On The Dangers of Project 2025 and Complacency
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In this episode, we are honored to sit down with JoNina Abron-Ervin, a former member of the Black Panther Party and the final editor of The Black Panther newspaper. JoNina shares her incredible journey from desegregating schools in Jefferson City, Missouri, to her life-changing experiences in Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) and her work within the Black Panther Party. We delve into her radicalization after the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr., her involvement in the global Black liberation movement, and her reflections on the importance of Black autonomy, anarchism, and solidarity in todayās struggles.JoNina offers a powerful critique of the systems of oppression she has fought against for decades, from state repression to patriarchy within revolutionary movements. Together, we explore how the Black Panther Partyās survival programs reshaped communities and why many of their ideals remain relevant today. This is an intimate and insightful conversation with a revolutionary voice who has spent her life advocating for Black liberation and anarchism.-Media Research and Resource List for the Episode: āDriven by The Movementā by JoNina Abron-Ervin | https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781849356060 āBlack Faces in High Placesā by Lorenzo Komāboa Ervin and JoNina Abron-Ervin | Read at: Anarchist Library - Black Faces in High PlacesArticles on Black Panther Party and COINTELPRO: The COINTELPRO Papers by Ward Churchill & Jim Vander Wall We Want Freedom by Mumia Abu-JamalRelevant Podcasts: The Black Autonomy Podcast (hosted by JoNina and Lorenzo Komāboa Ervin) Itās Going Down: JoNina Abron-Ervin InterviewDocumentaries: The Black Panthers: Vanguard of the Revolution (PBS) MLK/FBI (exploring COINTELPROās role in dismantling Black liberation movements)
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ABOUT THE EPISODE
In this episode, we explore why the real threat isnāt just Project 2025, but our collective failure to resist U.S. imperialism and state violence. While Project 2025 endangers immigration, reproductive rights, and public education, itās a symptom of Americaās deeper monopoly on power. We break down how media illiteracy, political memes, and celebrity politicians pacify us, and how both parties scapegoat immigrants. The focus shouldnāt just be opposing one projectāitās about building the capacity to resist the broader empire and fight for true liberation. Join us as we discuss what real resistance looks like and how we can push for lasting change.
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EPISODE CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
01:24 Kamala Harris Campaign, Oprah, and the Betrayal of the Black Elite
04:08 The Need for Social Media Literacy and An End To Xenophobia
07:24 Breaking Down Policies In Project 2025
14:58 Project 2025 on Immigration
16:43 On the terror of potential DE-NATURALIZATION under Trump 2024
20:31 On the need for resistance, whether under PROJECT 2025 or Kamala Harris
27:37 Why we resist no matter what the outcome
32:43 Outro
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MENTIONED MEDIA
š What Is Project 2025? :https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do
š Pro-Palestine Students Face Censorship: https://www.middleeasteye.net/trending/columbia-and-nyu-pro-palestine-students-face-censorship
š DNC and Social Media Influencers: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/us/politics/dnc-social-media-influencers.html
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In this episode, I explore the dangers of memeifying politics, focusing on Trump's xenophobic comments about Haitian immigrants during the 2024 presidential debate in Springfield, Ohio. As a child of West Indian immigrants and an Ohioan, this issue hits close to home. While memes might seem like harmless fun, turning serious issues like xenophobia into jokes helps normalize hate and even strengthens fascism.
Meme culture pacifies us, making it easier to laugh than resist. But when we joke about xenophobia, weāre not fighting itāweāre allowing it to grow. I dive into how the right weaponizes memes for recruitment and violence, and how progressives can fall into the trap of defanging politicians with humor.
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Media and Research Mentioned:
š Migrant Caravan National Emergency - Daily Dot: https://www.dailydot.com/irl/migrant-caravan-national-emergency/
š Inside the Hate Factory: How Facebook Fuels Far-Right Profit - The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/dec/06/inside-the-hate-factory-how-facebook-fuels-far-right-profit
š Trump Referred to Haiti and African Countries as 'Shithole Nations' - NBC News: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-referred-haiti-african-countries-shithole-nations-n836946
š A Brief History of Fascist Lies by Federico Finchelstein: https://bookshop.org/a/23229/9780520389779
š Why Itās Time for White Male Mediocrity to Lose - Ijeoma Oluo, NBC News: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/ijeoma-oluo-why-it-s-time-white-male-mediocrity-lose-n1251948
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Recently Prince and Jordan sat down to ask each other questions around black anarchism, their approach to the politic and some critiques.
PODCAST CHAPTERS
0:00 ā 2:00 | Welcome and Introductions to The Dugout
2:01 ā 10:30 | Black Anarchism: Revisiting a Radical Vision
10:31 ā 20:05 | Defining Black Sovereignty Through Anarchist Lenses
20:06 ā 29:50 | New African Anarchism and Critiquing State Power
29:51 ā 39:45 | Personal Journeys into Black Anarchism
39:46 ā 49:30 | Pan-Africanism, Blackness, and Diaspora Connections
49:31 ā 57:10 | Challenges of Building Trust Among Black Radicals
57:11 ā 1:05:00 | Black Anarchismās Role in Global Liberation and Media Work
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