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  • In November, California will choose a new governor to replace Gavin Newsom, pitting Democratic candidate Xavier Becerra, a former US Secretary of Health and Human Services, US Congressman and state attorney general, against an unlikely Republican rival: Steve Hilton.

    Hilton was born in the UK and became a US citizen only five years ago. He had a career in center-right British politics, working as an adviser for former Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron.

    In 2012, Hilton moved to California, where he worked as a tech entrepreneur and as a host on right-leaning Fox News.

    Hilton, who wants to be the state’s first Republican governor since Arnold Schwarzenegger, tells Mishal Husain how he joined the party, discusses the US-Israel war with Iran, his attitude to big tech and what he misses about life in Britain. He also discusses what having Donald Trump’s endorsement means for him and his campaign.

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  • It’s 10 years since the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union. It was an enormous decision, one that has contributed to the churn of British prime ministers since, a phenomenon that has continued this week with the resignation of Keir Starmer.

    What effect has Brexit had on UK politics and the British economy over the last decade? This bonus episode of The Mishal Husain Show is an opportunity to reflect and look ahead.

    Earlier this month, Alastair Campbell, Co-Host of The Rest Is Politics podcast, and Jacob Rees-Mogg, a presenter on GB News, joined Mishal Husain in front of an audience of Bloomberg subscribers to mark the anniversary.

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  • Meredith Whittaker has spent years arguing that privacy is a prerequisite for a free society.

    As the president of the nonprofit foundation behind the encrypted messaging app Signal, she now finds herself defending that principle in the face of mounting pressure from governments and tech companies alike.

    In this conversation with Mishal Husain, Whittaker says she believes business models that rely on data collection, the rise of artificial intelligence assistants and even well-meaning efforts to protect children online risk undermining private communication. She also explains why Signal would rather leave a market than weaken the product’s encryption.

    If you enjoyed this episode, listen to Mishal’s conversation with Mustafa Suleyman from Microsoft AI: Mustafa Suleyman Isn’t Like Everyone Else in Silicon Valley

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  • For decades, Gary Lineker anchored live sporting events for the BBC. Now he’s a podcaster and media boss. In this conversation with Mishal Husain, he talks about his new Netflix show and hopes for an England World Cup win.

    Lineker co-founded Goalhanger Productions, the UK’s fastest growing private company. Throughout the World Cup, his podcast “The Rest Is Football” will be streamed on Netflix.

    He talks about the politics around the tournament and FIFA boss Gianni Infantino’s relationship with US President Donald Trump. They also discuss Lineker’s departure from the BBC, which he describes as a “long marriage.” 

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  • Peter Piot first encountered the Ebola virus in a laboratory in Antwerp in 1976. At the time, the pathogen was largely unknown. Now, almost 50 years later, a new outbreak is spreading through parts of Central Africa, triggering travel restrictions and quarantines across the globe.

    In this conversation with Mishal Husain, Piot, one of the world's leading authorities on the disease, discusses why Ebola, while deadly, is not easily spread. The Belgian scientist also explains the challenge of controlling outbreaks in conflict zones and lessons the world still hasn’t learned from Covid-19.

    06:44 - "No future in infectious diseases"
    10:50 - How contagious is Ebola?
    12:05 - “I'm not concerned that this will become a pandemic”
    13:23 - Are travel restrictions necessary?
    18:00 - “Ebola is not their only problem”
    19:07 - How far are we from a vaccine for this Ebola strain?
    22:14 - Tackling Ebola in 1976
    23:48 - Tracking the virus
    32:25 - Vaccine disinformation
    33:18 - “Long Covid really exists”
    34:18 - “I was scared to die”

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  • Ada Ferrer won the Pulitzer Prize in 2022 for her acclaimed book, Cuba: An American History, which examined the island’s relationship with the US.

    Her latest work, Keeper of My Kin, tells her family story: a mother who fled the island nation carrying an infant daughter, while leaving a brother behind.

    Now, as Donald Trump increases pressure on Cubans and their leaders, cutting off oil while  obtaining an indictment of Raul Castro for the 1996 shootdown of a small plane, Ferrer tells Mishal Husain about the human cost of Cuba’s long crisis.

    03:26 - Writing “Keeper of my Kin”
    04:09 - A love-hate relationship with Cuba
    05:40 - The Cuba of Castro
    07:11 - Leaving Cuba in 1963
    08:13 - Leaving her brother Poly behind
    12:08 - Letters from Poly
    15:48 - Cuba’s history of migration
    17:58 - Helping family in Cuba
    22:50 - People in Cuba are “suffering”
    24:01 - A threat to US national security?
    26:51 - A shared experience with Rubio
    32:19 - Cuban-Americans and Trump
    34:04 Obama’s visit to Cuba
    37:52 - Calling myself an American
    39:52 - The books is a “testament of love”

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  • David Dimbleby was for decades the face of election programs on the BBC. He anchored coverage of 10 UK general elections, as well as the 1975 and 2016 referendums on European membership, the funeral of Princess Diana and a host of other royal and state occasions.

    He’s seen prime ministers come and go, from Margaret Thatcher to Tony Blair and many more since. With Prime Minister Keir Starmer facing a potential leadership challenge, Dimbleby is uniquely placed to understand the characters and conflicts shaping Britain’s volatile politics today.

    In this conversation with Mishal Husain he gives his take on Starmer, Andy Burnham and Nigel Farage.

    0:03:15 Why so many prime ministers? 
    0:09:14 Keir Starmer is a “dud” 
    0:09:55 “I don’t know what (Burnham) stands for”
    0:11:31 Would Burnham be a different PM? 
    0:13:37 The UK is in a “dire state”
    0:16:16 “I am worried about the future”
    0:16:49 Nigel Farage as prime minister
    0:21:35 Ten years on from Brexit 
    0:24:31 The UK rejoining the EU
    0:31:52 King Charles' state visit to the US
    0:37:15 “I'm not in any way a republican”

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  • Beyond this week’s talks between Chinese President Xi Jinping and US President Donald Trump, there’s an epic tale that has been unfolding for decades. It’s a battle to be the world’s number one power and a much bigger story than the latest meeting of these two men. 

    Kishore Mahbubani is a former Singaporean diplomat who served as president of the United Nations Security Council. For two decades, he has argued that the West fundamentally misunderstands the rise of China and its challenge to American supremacy.

    Mahbubani. who eventually turned to academia, now specializes in governance and public policy. In this conversation with Mishal Husain, he traces the story behind the Xi-Trump talks, the handshakes and the social media posts–and what may lie ahead.

    Mahbubani also reveals how his own successes were made possible by Singapore’s remarkable growth.

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    03:34 - “The most important contest of our time”
    5:50  - “It's not about personalities”
    6:26 - “China can no longer be stopped”
    07:28 - US versus China: It’s a “zero-sum” game
    08:40 - Bill Clinton’s first meeting with Jiang Zemin
    12:35 - Cold War Comparisons
    18:30 - Growing up in Singapore in the 1950s
    19:53 - "My mother never cracked”
    26:25 - “China has become a tiger”
    30:24 - US war is a “gift” to China

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  • For a brief moment in 2017, Anthony Scaramucci became a unit of time. His 11-day stint as White House communications director was so short-lived that it entered the political lexicon.

    Almost a decade on, he has proven more durable than the joke. The Trump loyalist-turned-critic, Wall Street financier and podcast host remains a well-known figure in American political culture.

    Scaramucci is still holding forth on the US president he once backed, as well as bets that have shaped his own career, including on crypto and Sam Bankman-Fried.

    In this conversation with Mishal Husain, Scaramucci talks about his early life, his mistakes and his view of the political landscape ahead of the midterm elections.

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    03:00 - The midterms are “a longtime off”
    06:58 - “I’m a loyalist”
    08:35  - Who’s Trump’s successor?
    08:55 - A president needs “name recognition”
    11:41 - Meeting Trump for the first time
    13:14 - Trump’s “phenomenal political instincts”
    14:45 - Joining the Trump campaign
    16:11 - “Donald Trump was talking to my Dad”
    20:56 - Getting fired by Trump
    24:16 - It was “humiliating”
    25:56 - Meeting Sam Bankman-Fried
    27:53 - “I made false assumptions”
    31:18 - Bitcoin “I want to judge it over a five or 10 year period”
    33:05 - Growing up on Long Island
    35:17 - “The Mooch”
    37:17 - The future of the Democrats
    44:51 - History is a guide

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  • For more than 30 years, the Indian-born writer Amitav Ghosh has built a global following with novels that draw on deep historical research. 

    But his latest offering, Ghost-Eye, is more esoteric. The plot moves back and forth between India and the US, using past lives to explore the ties between the personal and the political.

    The plot centers on a psychiatrist treating a 3-year-old who shocks her family by insisting she remembers a past life in a fishing community.

    In this conversation with Mishal Husain, Ghosh explains why he’s finding it harder to write nowadays, how the memories of his childhood came flooding back during the Covid pandemic, why he sees capitalism as an obstacle to protecting the environment and thinks India has lost its way diplomatically. 

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    03:37 - “She had a near-death experience”
    05:37 - Reincarnated past lives
    08:05 - “The world has lost all its wonder”
    08:28 - Growing up in Kolkata
    10:56 - Kolkata and New York are the “opposite ends of the telescope”
    11:44 - “I really learned to think against the grain”
    12:13 - Creating a “bubble of tranquility” to write
    12:32 - Writing from “within the crisis”
    14:45 - India has lost its way diplomatically
    16:25 - Watching Zohran Mamdani grow up
    19:12 - India and China
    23:11 - Writing a story to be read in 100 years
    27:31 - Writing books by hand 

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  • We’re now eight weeks on from the start of the US-Israel war with Iran, a conflict that’s been watched with increasing alarm by Wendy Sherman, architect of the 2015 nuclear deal between the US and Iran and a former deputy secretary of state.

    Having spent years across the table from Iranian officials, she sees a far more volatile landscape today. In this conversation with Mishal Husain, she shares how her concerns go beyond the Middle East and explains how China and Russia are beneficiaries of the war.

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    03:13 - Iran’s “culture of resistance”
    05:00 - “The regime now is more hardline”
    05:33 - Iran won’t make concessions “easily” 
    09:38 - Control of the Strait of Hormuz
    10:36 - “They have not bombed away all of Iran’s knowledge”
    14:35 - Negotiating with Iran
    17:13 - Negotiations aren’t about trust
    23:47 - What might a US deal with Iran look like?
    25:14 - Iran will want the US “out of the Middle East”
    29:10 - China is “stronger”
    32:50 Trump’s visit to China
    41:19 - “I have found myself angrier”

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  • A new and radical take on Shakespeare’s Hamlet is out in US cinemas. The force behind it is actor, writer, producer and musician Riz Ahmed. He says the 400-year-old story has never felt more current.

    Ahmed, Oscar-nominated for Sound of Metal and star of the Oscar-winning live-action short The Long Goodbye, has a new series on Prime Video called Bait. It’s a black comedy about an actor on the cusp of a life-changing role as James Bond. 

    In this conversation with Mishal Husain, Ahmed talks about creativity and politics, discusses his upcoming movie with Tom Cruise and how becoming a father affected his acting.

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    02:32 - Hamlet “never goes out of fashion"
    03:39 - “The old order is falling apart”
    05:00 - “Is it the world that’s gone crazy or is it me?”
    07:50 - The dream of playing Hamlet
    09:51 - To be, or not to be is “misunderstood”
    13:40 - “It's authentic. I'm not acting”
    17:00 - Bait “it’s a very personal show”
    17:24 - Why Barbara Broccoli said yes to using Bond
    21:43 - Looking for acceptance
    22:34 - “Culture works in cycles”
    25:04 - Acting was an extension of real life
    28:20 - “I don’t like being pinned down”
    28:42 - SNL UK
    30:01 - Working with Tom Cruise
    32:21 - “My weekends are really simple”

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  • After almost six weeks of war, how did Pakistan manage to get the US and Iran to talk?

    Amid a still-fragile situation in the Middle East, that question sits at the heart of this conversation with Maleeha Lodhi. She has served as Pakistan’s ambassador to Washington, as well as to the UK and United Nations.

    For her, the Islamabad talks mark a moment of wider significance, as the middle powers demonstrate their capacity to influence geopolitics.

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    02:55 - Pakistan as a peacebroker
    05:00 - Field Marshal Asim Munir and President Trump
    07:49 - Pakistan and Iran
    10:00 - Economic pain in Pakistan
    13:40 - Israel and Lebanon
    14:45 - “I'd like to be optimistic”
    19:30 - US miscalculations
    22:00 - “US dominance is fading”
    23:00 Middle powers can “shape geopolitics”
    23:53 - Is China a winner?
    29:00 - Trump’s Board of Peace
    29:50 - “Common ground can be found”

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  • Lionel Shriver has often tackled complex or contentious issues in her fiction. From school shootings in We Need to Talk About Kevin to economic collapse in The Mandibles. 

    Her new novel, A Better Life, is the story of a family home taken over by outsiders. In this conversation with Mishal Husain, Shriver discusses the sociological concerns behind the story, which she says is a metaphor for the increase in undocumented US immigration during the Biden administration. 

    Shriver is a regular columnist for The Spectator, a conservative UK magazine. The link between the writing styles in that publication and her novel also feature in this episode.

    In the written version of this conversation, you’ll find more information on how Mishal Husain researched and prepared for this interview, including her own notes, data, historical context and further quotes from Lionel Shriver. www.bloomberg.com/latest/weekend-interview

    02:27 - Inspiration for A Better Life
    03:39 - Extended adolescence
    06:32 - A metaphor for America
    10:21 - Shriver’s political journey
    12:42 - Declining populations
    17:02 - ICE tactics
    20:34 - From North Carolina to Northern Ireland
    22:57 - Rebelling against church
    24:30 - Transgender debate
    30:07 - Why Shriver left the UK
    32:26 - Muslim immigration
    35:32 - Novels versus columns
    40:12 - Writing for shorter attention spans
    41:30 - Shriver’s recovery from illness

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  • With attention fixed on the potential developments between the US and Iran, could the Israeli government be forced to end the war earlier than it might like?

    The last few weeks have seen daily air strikes by Israel on Iran, and retaliatory attacks that have killed and injured Israelis. The wider picture is of two and a half years of constant conflict, particularly in Gaza.

    In this conversation, Mishal Husain speaks to Shira Efron, who has been a Middle East analyst for the last 20 years and is now Distinguished Chair for Israel Policy at RAND. They discuss Israeli public opinion on Iran, the extent of the military operation in Lebanon and what’s at stake in the Israeli election due later this year.

    02:25 - Life in Tel Aviv
    04:42 - Israeli public opinion on Iran
    06:24 - “A feeling of deja vu”
    07:42 - Netanyahu's calculation
    09:17 - Will elections go ahead?
    10:59 - Did the Mossad get it wrong?
    12:44 - American public opinion
    14:24 - US and Israeli relations
    18:24 - “There's one boss and this boss is President Trump”
    20:11 - The future of Lebanon
    23:52 - “Everyone forgot where Gaza is”
    31:21 - Smotrich’s plan
    33:44 - “We are seeing a shift to the right”
    37:37 - Looking ahead to 2028

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  • US Representative Ro Khanna of California helped force Donald Trump to release the Epstein files. Now he wants to end the war with Iran. Earlier this month, the Democratic Congressman joined forces with Representative Thomas Massie of Kentucky, a Republican, on a War Powers resolution seeking to halt the military action, though it ultimately failed in the GOP-controlled House.

    Speaking to Mishal Husain almost three weeks after the US and Israel began coordinated attacks on Iran, Khanna says he believes that  opposing war in the Middle East and taxing billionaires could unite progressives and disaffected Trump voters.

    02:57 - Hearing Epstein’s name for the first time
    05:18 - Forcing the release of the Epstein files
    10:07 - Holding this Epstein class accountable
    11:05 - A new found confidence
    11:59 - Hoping for a split in MAGA?
    12:43 - “It’s a coalition that’s gonna win”
    14:24 - Stopping the war in Iran
    15:53 - Trump’s “looking for an off ramp to end the war”
    17:21 - Increasing pressure on Trump over Iran
    19:50 - Could Cuba be next?
    21:21 - Khanna’s grandfather was an Indian MP
    23:15 - Running for president in 2028?
    24:58 - Taxing billionaires
    30:08 - A progressive coalition
    34:06 - “You can't help but be hopeful about the American story”

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  • Despite the intensity of the US-Israel bombing campaign, Iran’s regime, now under a new supreme leader, hasn’t given President Donald Trump the “unconditional surrender” he’s seeking.

    Mishal Husain speaks with Vali Nasr, a professor at Johns Hopkins University’s School of Advanced International Studies and a preeminent scholar on the Islamic Republic. His life has been shaped by the story of Iran over the last 50 years, starting when his family fled amid the 1979 revolution.

    His life’s work has been to study the region and its relationship with the US. He’s also worked  as an adviser to the US State Department during the Obama administration.

    Nasr explains why Tehran believes time is on its side in the war, and that a prolonged conflict may only strengthen Iranian nationalism.

    02:34 - Why Iran is “prepared to suffer more”
    06:28 - What drives the new ayatollah
    10:03 - How Iranians view the US and Israel
    12:07 - War will last “longer” than Trump hopes
    14:00 - School strike, destruction of heritage sites
    15:35 - Lessons from the Iran-Iraq war
    19:03 - “This is the final battle”
    20:17 - Impact of US sanctions
    22:40 - Will Iran pursue a nuclear bomb?
    26:02 - Iran’s experience of foreign intervention
    28:27 - Can Reza Pahlavi, son of the Shah, succeed?
    30:48 - Nasr’s experience fleeing Iran in 1979
    35:15 - Mood among Iranian-Americans
    39:32 - Iran’s “rightful place in the world”

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  • Within 24 hours of the US and Israeli strikes on Iran, a host of other countries were drawn into the latest conflict in the Middle East.

    Iran retaliated by targeting sites in Israel and across the Gulf, including the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait and Bahrain, as well as Iraq, Oman and Jordan. Israel, meanwhile, has carried out air strikes on Lebanon and sent in ground troops as it seeks to dismantle Iranian ally Hezbollah.

    For this conversation, Mishal Husain has turned to an expert on the broad sweep of Middle East politics. Bernard Haykel is a professor of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University. Born in Lebanon, he is known for weaving together knowledge of history, religion and social change across the region. His forthcoming book is about contemporary Saudi Arabia and its leader, Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, with whom he is in regular contact.

    02:45 - “I was not surprised”
    03:40 - The Iranian retaliation
    09:00 - The three scenarios in this conflict
    11:00 - “This regime will survive”
    13:20 Protests after Khamenei's death
    15:35 Did MBS encourage the strikes on Iran?
    18:40 The Saudi Air Force will get “involved”
    21:30 Trump and MBS
    25:00 MBS “doesn’t want wars”
    27:00 Saudi competition with UAE
    29:18 MBS is “a bit like Elon Musk”
    30:30 MBS is an authoritarian 33:00 The US has a “role to play” in the Middle East

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  • When President Donald Trump returned to the White House last year, one of his first acts was to sign an executive order withdrawing the US from the World Health Organization. The administration's rupture with the WHO began in Trump’s first term, when relations deteriorated as the Covid-19 pandemic set in. 

    In this conversation with Mishal Husain, WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus reveals he remains in close contact with US Secretary of Health and Human Services  Robert F. Kennedy Jr. despite that break. He also talks about the lessons learned from Covid and why the WHO is still waiting for answers from China as it seeks to understand the origins of the virus.

    Beyond the politics of global health, Ghebreyesus opens up about his own childhood trauma and why the death of his brother in 1970 makes the fight against preventable disease personal for him.

    02:51 - Being a child of war
    06:25 - Working in conflict zones
    08:07 -  “War and disease are old friends”
    09:34 -  “Don’t forget the invisible enemy”
    11:35 - How far away is the next pandemic?
    12:48  -  US withdrawal from the WHO
    14:50 - Covid and China
    16:50 -  Personal attacks from the US
    18:16  - The US flag has been returned
    18.51 Argentina is leaving the WHO
    21:22 - Was Covid a lab leak?
    22:49 - Waiting for answers from China
    26:46 - Vaccine skeptics
    27:26 - Texting RFK Jr.
    28:56 - “My brother died”
    31:06 - “He could have survived”
    33:46 - “Defunding mRNA research is the wrong decision”
    34:20 - Will MAHA work?
    37:27 - A message for President Trump
    39:26 - “Viruses get advantage when we are divided”

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  • “KPop Demon Hunters” is the brainchild of Korean-Canadian animator Maggie Kang. It’s Netflix’s biggest-ever film and follows Rumi, Mira and Zoey, members of the girl band Huntrix, as they battle to save the world from dark forces. 

    As you’ll hear, Kang grew up loving Korean pop music long before it was globally cool and forged a Hollywood career on films including “The Lego Ninjago Movie” and “Kung Fu Panda 3.” In this conversation with Mishal Husain, Kang explains how she had always hoped a story about Korea would one day come her way. But it never did, so she came up with her own.

    Kang is in the middle of a life-changing moment. Her movie has already scored wins at the Golden Globes and the Grammys, and now all eyes are on the Oscars. The extraordinary thing is that no one expected “KPop Demon Hunters” to be such a smash hit. Husain asks Kang what it’s been like adjusting to all the attention, and of course whether there’s a sequel in the works.

    03:06 - “A global phenomenon”
    04:17 - The screaming fans
    05:01 - The movie theater screenings
    06:49 - Pitching “KPop Demon Hunters”
    09:27 - Living between two cultures
    12:04 - Growing up as an “outsider”
    16:34 - Kang’s first animation book
    17:16 - “I liked to draw”
    18:21 - Recording the voiceover, over and over
    20:11 - The story of “Golden”
    21:39 - Rumi, Mira and Zoey in “Golden”
    23:00 - Waiting for “the tingles”
    25:25 - “We kinda worried it was a little cheesy”
    27:27 - Helping the world find Korean culture
    29:30 - Choosing the title for a “kooky” movie
    34:20 - A message from Kang to the fans
    34:48 - “There’s a sequel, surely?”
    35:14 - Live action “KPop Demon Hunters”?
    37:01 - “I’m still very grounded”
    37:22 - Diving back into the sequel?
    38:00 - “Wow! You are going to the Oscars!”

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