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Jean Donaldson has just published a new edition of her book Mine! A Practical Guide to Resource Guarding in Dogs. If you have a dog who guards food, objects, people, or locations, you need this book! Jean joins Zazie and Kristi to discuss what to do if your dog guards food, locations, or other resources.
We talk about:
Why it was time for a new edition of Mine! and what it was like to write itHow to decide if your dog needs a regular training plan or a more incremental one to resolve their guarding behaviourWhy it's a myth that you should be able to take your dog's food away from themHow we can add food to puppies' bowls to help prevent food guardingWhy there's not really anything wrong with the personality of a dog who guards resourcesThe other behaviour issues that sometimes accompany guarding behaviourWhat it means to be "warmed up" or "cold" in a dog training planWhy dog trainers like the spicy dogsThe Olde English Sheepdog who was a bit of a challengeGuarding behaviour in Jean's dog Buffy and Kristi's dogs Archer and SoleilWhen to hire a dog trainer to help with resource guardingThe book Jean recommended to us is The Eagle and the Hart: The Tragedy of Richard II and Henry IV by Helen Kastor.
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Mine! A Practical Guide to Resource Guarding in Dogs by Jean Donaldson is available wherever books are sold.
Jean Donaldson is one of the world's top dog trainers, founder of the Academy for Dog Trainers, and author of the seminal book Culture Clash, which was named number one training and behaviour book by The Association of Pet Dog Trainers. In 2017, Jean authored and instructed Dog Training 101 for The Great Courses, another wonderful resource for dog guardians. Her most recent book is the second edition of Mine! A Practical Guide to Resource Guarding in Dogs.
Follow Jean at the Academy for Dog Trainers:
Website: https://academyfordogtrainers.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AcademyforDogTrainers
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/academy4dogtrainers/?hl=en
You might also like: Understanding resource guarding in dogs and how to fix it with Lisa Skavienski
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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Kids are routinely taught to ask a dog's owner before petting the dog. Today, radio host Steve Dale joins us to talk about how they should also find out if the dog wants to be petted or not. We learn about Steve's new children's book, Ask the Dog, which is a fun story with an important message, and we also talk about some good news in cat health.
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Why Steve wrote the bookThe importance of preventing dog bites, and why children are especially at riskWhy children should learn to ask the dogHow the relationship between dogs and children has changed over the yearsWhat it was like working with an illustrator for the bookThe work of the EveryCat Health Foundation and their research on taurine in cat food, FIP, diabetes, and heart diseaseHow research on cat health has also benefited human healthAlso mentioned:
The EveryCat Health Foundation is at everycat.orgTheater of the Mind created by David Byrne and Mala Gaonkar is at the Goodman Theater in Chicago through August 30 2026 https://theaterofthemindchicago.com/Steve Dale's interview with David Byrne https://stevedalepetworld.com/blog/conversation-with-david-byrne-booth-46/The book Steve recommended is Bicycle Diaries by David ByrneAsk the Dog by Steve Dale, illustrated by Shelby Koehler, is available wherever books are sold.
Steve Dale is a certified animal behavior consultant, a radio host, and his show Steve Daleās Pet World is essential listening for everyone who loves pets. He co-edited Decoding Your Dog, written by the American College of Veterinary Behaviorists, and has written and contributed to many other books. Ask the Dog is his first children's book. Steve is the host of Steve Dale's Pet World on WGN radio and also hosts a Sunday afternoon talk show at WGN radio.
Learn more about Steve and sign up for his newsletter at stevedale.tv.
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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Zazie and Kristi ask each other rapid fire questions about dogs and cats, breeds and behaviour. But in this game of this or that, we also discuss the answers, illuminating ideas about training and enrichment. By the end of the show, you'll know Zazie and Kristi a lot better, but you'll also have learned something about dogs and cats.
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At the end of the episode, we discuss the books we've been reading:
Detective Aunty by Uzma JalaluddinCrier's War by Nina VarelaSupport the show
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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Zazie and Kristi chat with Dr. Jo Wimpenny, author of Beauty of the Beasts, to learn more about wasps, mosquitoes, vultures, sharks, and other unloved animals.
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why Jo wanted to write about the beastieshow everything is connectedthe value of wasps and mosquitoes to the ecosystemhow sharks are not necessarily out to get people (even if sometimes they are)whether some animals are over-ratedwhich animal Jo most loved writing aboutand finally Jo told us which book she's been reading.Beauty of the Beasts: Rethinking Nature's Least Loved Animals is available wherever books are sold.
The book Jo recommended to us is The Animals in That Country by Laura Jean McKay.
Previous episodes with Jo:
The Holiday Special 2025 (Ep48)Animal minds and our favourite fables (Ep15)Also mentioned: Kristi's blog post on making a living in the world.
Jo Wimpenny is a zoologist and writer, with a research background in animal behaviour and the history of science. She studied Zoology at the University of Bristol, and went on to research problem-solving in crows for her DPhil at Oxford University. Sheās the author of Aesopās Animals, which weāve talked about with her before, and her new book which is just out now is Beauty of the Beasts: Rethinking Natureās Least Loved Animals.
Jo's website: https://jowimpenny.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jowimpenny/
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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Can pet dogs use their nose to find the eggs of an invasive species, the spotted lanternfly--and what was it like taking part in citizen science to find out? Zazie and Kristi are joined by dog trainer and author Melissa McCue-McGrath to learn all about this fun project. We also learn about Melissa's book, Misadventures of the World's Okayest Dog Trainer.
We talk about:
the nose work classes that Melissa teacheswhy the spotted lanternfly is such a problemwhy Melissa wanted to take part in citizen sciencethe real life issues that affected the projectthe training that they did with the dogsthe field trials at the end of the projectthe real world applications and why it was fun to be part of itwhat Melissa would say to someone considering signing up for a citizen science project with their dogwhy Melissa wrote her new book and what it's aboutMisadventures of the World's Okayest Dog Trainer is available wherever books are sold.
Also mentioned:
BewilderBeasts podcastMelissa's interview on DogCast radioThe Accidental Veterinarian by Philipp SchottTell Me Where it Hurts by Nick TroutBark! Fest with Philipp SchottVictoria Stilwell AcademyThe books that Melissa recommended are Away To Me by Patricia McConnell and The Discworld Series by Terry Pratchett.
Melissa McCue-McGrath is a professional dog trainer and behaviour consultant. She is a faculty advisor for the Victoria Stilwell Academy and she is the first non-UK person to be accredited with PACT. Sheās the author of Considerations for the City Dog, and her new book, Misadventures of the Worldās Okayest Dog Trainer, is just out now.
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Why you and your dog will love nose work with Bonnie Hartney (Ep46)Human remains detection dogs and historic searches with Kim Cooper and Cat Warren (Ep35)Support the show
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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Content warning: The books section at the end of the episode includes subject matter that may be distressing.
Having both a senior dog and a young dog in the same home can be wonderful, revitalizing the older dog and providing company for the younger dog. But it can also have its challenges. Zazie and Kristi talk about how to make sure everyone is happy and stays safe.
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How training can help when you have both an old dog and a young dog or puppyWhat to consider when deciding whether to bring a young dog into your home when you have a senior dogWhether bringing a young dog into the home can be beneficial for an old dogWhat kinds of issues people can have in this situationWhen to seek help from a dog trainer for your dog-dog issuesManagement options that can make a difference and help to prevent issues from arisingWe also discuss Zazie's book Bark!s win in the DWAA awards and Zazie shows Kristi her medalAnd finally we chat about the books we've been readingThe webinar that Kristi is presenting for the Pet Professional Guild is called Mixing Young Dogs and Senior Dogs: Management, Safety, and Training on April 8 2026. https://www.petprofessionalguild.com/webinars-events/webinars/mixing-young-and-senior-dogs-management-safety-and-training-with-kristi-benson/
Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog is available wherever books are sold. https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/p/books.html
The Dog Writers Association of America competition details: https://dogwriters.org/winners/
The books we recommend in this episode are:
Consent: A Memoir by Vanessa Springora trans Natasha LehrerPeople of Means: A Novel by Nancy JohnsonSupport the show
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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How can you help your dog to like it--and behave well--when visitors come to your home? Zazie and Kristi are joined by dog trainer Jeff Millman, author of Triggers and Reactions: A Guide to Fixing Your Dog Behavior Problems, to chat about this common issue.
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Why having your dog jump on guests is in some ways a nice problem to haveThe behaviours we can teach them to do insteadThe signs to look for that would suggest that your dog is shy or fearful of guestsHow to use management when guests come overUnderstanding how to use desensitization and counter conditioning for fearful dogsHow dog training culture has changed over the years and reward-based methods have become more popularWhat it was like to study at the original Academy for Dog Trainers and how much Jeff loved itand finally, we ask Jeff what he's been reading latelyThe books recommended by Jeff are:
When Everyone Knows that Everyone Knows... Common Knowledge and the Mysteries of Money, Power, and Everyday Life by Steven PinkerNever: A Novel by Ken FollettAbout Jeff Millman: Jeff Millman was always known as an animal fanatic since he was a little boy. After studying journalism, living in Alaska after college while living in a tent, working professionally as an internet consultant and creative director, he studied dog training with the world-famous Jean Donaldson in San Francisco in 2002. Since then, he has been honing his dog training craft while training thousands of dogs. Heās the author of three books, including the two-volume Triggers and Reactions: A Guide to Fixing Dog Behavior Problems. lives in Cary, NC with his two wonderful children, amazing wife, and English Shepherds, Sky and Storm.
Jeff Millman's website: https://www.jeffmillman.com/
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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Zazie and Kristi talk about how to help dogs and cats get along, and why it all starts with thinking about the cat's feeling of safety.
We talk about:
the need to manage introductions between dogs and catswhat that means from the dog's perspective, and the cat's perspectivethe importance of letting them vote with their feetthe need for safe spaces, and how to make safe spaces for a catthe idea of training the dog to be safe around catshow to keep the peace at mealtimesplacement of the cat's resourceswhether dogs are ever scared of catshow some dogs cannot be trusted to live with a catThe books we recommend in this episode are:
Dog Affirmations: An Illustrated Journey Through Your Dog's Thoughts by Andrea CƔceresThe Little Old Lady Who Broke All the Rules: A Novel by Catharina Ingelman-SundbergPrevious episodes mentioned in the show:
Caring for dogs versus caring for catsHow to help your reactive or fearful dogFor more on how to set your house up for your cat, check out Zazie's book Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy, which is available wherever books are sold. Learn more about Zazie's books here.
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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What's the best kind of carrier to choose for your cat? We get a veterinarian's perspective from Dr. Mansum Yau, author of The Ins and Outs of Cat Carriers: A Veterinarian's Guide to Cat Carriers.
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why, as a vet, Dr. Mansum is interested in cat carrierswhat kind of carrier is the best one to choosehow to help cats be more comfortable at the vethow she became a stand-up comedian on top of being a vet, and how humour can help at the vetwhy toothbrushing is so important for cats and how a video of Dr. Mansum brushing her cat's teeth went viralthe best carriers for adventure cats, and what happened one time with her catwhat it was like illustrating her bookand finally, she tells us about a book she's readingThe book Dr. Mansum picked is Bony Legs and Other Stories by Pat Edwards.
Also mentioned in this episode, the cat toothbrushing episode that went viral: https://www.instagram.com/p/DGW-oi1xPSC/
Dr. Mansum Yau graduated from the Ontario Veterinary College in 2010 and earned her certificate in canine massage from the Royal Canadian College of Massage Therapy in 2025. She is Human Animal Bond and Fear Free Level 3 certified and passionate about preventative care and client education. When she is not caring for cats and dogs, she enjoys reading, writing, painting, drawing, performing clean stand-up comedy, raising awareness for endangered animals, and exploring nature with her one-eyed dog, Penny, and adventure cat, Boo. She is the author and illustrator of The Ins and Outs of Cat Carriers: A Veterinarianās Guide to Cat Carriers, available wherever cat lovers read. She also shares tips for cats and dogs at pet events and on Instagram and YouTube.
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LinkedIn https://ca.linkedin.com/in/drmansum
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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Away to Me is Patricia McConnell PhD's first mystery novel, and it's gorgeous. Zazie and Kristi chat with Patricia to learn more about the book and why she decided to write fiction set in the dog world.
We talk about:
What made Patricia decide to write a mystery novelThe main character, Maddie McGowanWhether it was fun to be writing dogs as charactersHow she wrote about the dogs as real characters & without turning the interactions into negative/aversive ones. The many different dog training cases that appear as secondary characters in the bookPatricia has previously written many wonderful non-fiction books, including her memoir, The Education of Will. Whatās different about writing fiction? The power and importance of friendships and how dogs are one of the ways that many people can find a community?What motivates her to write, and will we see more of Maddie after this?Away to Me will be published on Feb 24th and is available for pre-order wherever books are sold.
Also mentioned:
What the Dog Knows by Cat WarrenPatricia's blog post on finding grace https://www.patriciamcconnell.com/theotherendoftheleash/natl-dog-training-month-or-you-and-54/Susanna Daniel and Madison Writers' Studio https://madisonwriters.com/Patricia McConnell at Bark! Fest https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/16149739The book Patricia recommend is The Salt Stones by Helen Whybrow.Learn more about Patricia and her book, Away to Me, on her website: https://www.patriciamcconnell.com/
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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How is caring for a dog different than caring for a cat, and what is the same? We talk about what dogs and cats need for a happy life with us.
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Training dogs and training cats (and why you should train your cat)The importance of enrichmentTheir sense of smellGoing places with your dog, but not your catHouse trainingVet care and husbandryAnd the books we've been reading.Also mentioned in this episode:
There is a training plan to teach your cat to go in their carrier at the end of Zazie's book Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat HappyZazie's blog post on 3 easy ways to start training your cat includes notes on carrier training https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/2023/05/3-easy-ways-to-get-started-with.html The husbandry project from the Academy for Dog Trainers https://academyfordogtrainers.com/husbandry-project/The books are:
The Black AntiFascist Tradition by Jeanelle K Hope and Bill V MullenSnap: A Novel by Susin NielsonSupport the show
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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If your dog has separation anxiety, what can you do to help them, how can you cope with not leaving your dog alone for longer than they can handle, and why is it so important? We're joined by separation anxiety expert Malena DeMartini to talk about how you can help your dog with their separation-related issues.
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what separation anxiety is and whether other labels like separation-related distress are useful to dog trainers and dog guardianswhat it means to suspend absences for your doghow video helps to show the moment when the dog starts to get distressed, and what happens before thatwhy it's important to speak to a vet about medication for separation anxietyhow crates are not the answer for dogs with separation anxietyhow dog trainers can become certified to work with separation anxiety cases (CSATs) through Malena's school And Malena tells us about a book she lovesMalena DeMartini is a Certified Trainer and Counselor (CTC) and a Certified Dog Behavior Consultant (CDBC). Since 2001, she has specialized exclusively in canine separation anxiety, having worked hundreds of cases and constantly innovating to find better ways to treat the condition and support guardians, other trainers, rescues, and shelters. Malena is the author of two ground-breaking books, Separation Anxiety in Dogs, Next Generation in Treatment Protocols and Practices (2020) and Treating Separation Anxiety in Dogs. is the founder of the prestigious Separation Anxiety Certification Program (SACP), which has graduated hundreds of Certified Separation Anxiety Trainers (CSATs) across the globe. She also has an online self-paced course, Mission: POSSIBLE, which is an invaluable resource.
Learn more at https://malenademartini.com/
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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In this special episode, Zazie and Kristi are joined by some of the most popular guests from previous episodes to chat about all things animal behaviour, including dogs, cats, ants, penguins, and crows.
We talk about:
with Jo Wimpenny, PhD, author of Aesop's Animals, we talk about The Ant and the Grasshopper and how we know whether or not animals can plan ahead--plus we get exciting news about her next bookZazie and Kristi chat about their highlights of the yearwith Marc Bekoff, PhD, author of The Emotional Lives of Animals (and many other books) we talk about ethology, his research with penguins, and whether animals have ritualsZazie and Kristi chat about Holiday ritualswith Erica Beckwith CTC of A Matter of Manners Dog Training, we talk about how to get cute Holiday photos of your petsand finally we share which books we've been readingThe full show notes are available on the Companion Animal Psychology website: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/
Previous episodes with these guests:
Animal minds and our favourite fables with Jo Wimpenny , PhD https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/14597289Canine emotions and perceptions with Marc Bekoff PhD, Zazie Todd PhD, and Cat Warren at Bark! Fest https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/16276537Animal emotions with Marc Bekoff, PhD, at Bark! Fest https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17148973The benefits of tricks training for dogs and cats with Erica Beckwith https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/12793661Also mentioned in this episode:
Preorder Beauty of the Beasts by Jo Wimpenny https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/beauty-of-the-beasts-9781399417617/Ask Me Anything about Fearful and Reactive Dogs https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/18168422Wild Rituals by Caitlin O'ConnellJane GoodallErica Beckwith's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/amatterofmannersdogtraining/The books we chose are:
A Woman Among Wolves by Diane K Boyd4 Days a Week by Juliet B SchorThe Passengers on the Hankyu Line by Hiro Arikawa trans. Allison Markin PowellDare I Say It by Naomi WattsLearn more about:
Dr. Jo Wimpenny https://jowimpenny.com/
Dr. Marc Bekoff https://marcbekoff.com/
Erica Beckwith CTC https://www.amatterofmannersdogtraining.com/
Kristi Benson CTC https://www.kristibenson.com/
Zazie Todd, PhD https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/ (This is also where you'll find full show notes and a transcript).
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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Zazie and Kristi are joined by Prof. Carri Westgarth to answer your questions about dog bites, how to avoid getting bitten by a dog, and what to do if you have been bitten by a dog.
We talked about:
Why dogs biteHow to use management to keep people safe from dogsHow to keep children safe from dog bitesWhat to do if a loose dog charges you How to regain trust if your own dog has bitten youThe difference between predatory behaviour and fear aggressionThe systemic factors that can make a difference to the prevalence of dog bites, and why education is only part of the answerWhy Breed Specific Legislation isn't the solution to dog bitesAnd more!Also mentioned in this episode:
Dr. Sophia Yin's video with loose dogs (correction: it was in Australia) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhm36dDFrk4The Care for Reactive Dogs website https://careforreactivedogs.com/Zazie's email list. Sign up here: https://companionanimalpsychology.kit.com/a88e8d1a2aBooks by Prof. Carri Westgarth:
The Happy Dog OwnerDog Bites: A Multidisciplinary Perspective (co-edited with Daniel Mills)Books by Zazie Todd PhD:
Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog HappyBark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive DogProfessor Carri Westgarth is Chair in Human-Animal Interaction at the University of Liverpool with a passion for understanding the relationships we have with our pets. With a background in animal behaviour and dog training she has trained in veterinary epidemiology and human public health. Her research interests focus on the implications of dog ownership for human health and wellbeing, but also how owner management of their dogs can impact dog welfare. Both quantitative and qualitative research methods are used to tackle her primary research questions of how to improve population health through the promotion of dog walking, and how to prevent dog bites. Her expertise on understanding and changing the behaviour of dog owners is sought by many organisations wishing to prevent dog bites and promote āresponsibleā dog owner behaviour, such as her work as a consultant for Royal Mail. She is also a Full Member of the Association of Pet Behaviour Counsellors and founder of the Merseyside Dog Safety Partnership. In her spare time Carri teaches dog training classes, and previously was a professional Assistance Dog Instructor. Her practical experience in many areas relating to dogs, combined with a multi-disciplinary academic perspective, gives unique strength and relevance to her expertise.
Website: https://www.liverpool.ac.uk/people/carri-westgarth
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Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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We learn what canine scent work is, why it's so good for dogs, and how to get started--and progress--in this activity with Certified Nose Work Instructor Bonnie Hartney of Ocean Park Dog Training.
We talk about:
How Bonnie got started in scent work and how the activity first came aboutWhy scent work is fun for dogs and for their humansWhat to expect at a beginner classWhether scent work is for all dogsThe kinds of scent that are used, how dogs progress to searching for a target odour, and the kinds of searches they doWhat Bonnie has learned about her dogs from doing scent workHow Kristi's dog Archer is likely to do at scent work if she tries itDifferences between scent work classes and professional scent workIf you'd like to try nose work, Bonnie recommends:
National Association of Canine Scent Work: https://www.nacsw.net/
Find an Instructor https://education.k9nosework.com/instructor_extsearch
Online Scent Training with Scent Work University:
https://www.scentworku.com/collections/foundation-sniffing-program
For shy and fearful dogs with Kelly Lee; https://www.dogkindtraining.com/sniff
The book Bonnie chose is Finding Flora by Elinor Florence.
Bonnie Hartney is the owner and head instructor/trainer of Ocean Park Dog Training in Surrey, BC, which is AnimalKind accredited. Bonnie is a force-free, reward-based dog training professional, who brings knowledge and experience working with shelter dogs and pet dogs to advance otherās understanding of pet dog behaviour. Bonnie earned her CTC (Certificate in Training and Counselling) from a distinguished, international leader, Jean Donaldson at the Academy for Dog Trainers. To further her understanding of scent detection for pet dogs, Bonnie studied with NACSW (National Association of Canine Scent Work) founders and is a certified CNWI (Certified NoseWork Instructor) with 9 years experience teaching Nose Work. For over 25 years, Bonnie has volunteered and worked with the BC SPCA, helping shelter dogs to be adopted. Currently they have Nose Work classes every day of the week with 4 certified Nose Work Instructors and more than 95 dog teams.
Bonnie's website, Ocean Park Dog Training https://www.oceanparkdogtraining.com/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/oceanparkdogtraining/ and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/oceanparkdog/
You might also like Ep 35 on human remains detection dogs with Kim Cooper and Cat Warren https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17384889
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About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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We hosted an Ask Me Anything on anxious, fearful, and reactive dogs. You asked some incredible questions, and this is the result.
We talked about:
How to find the starting place for working with anxious dogsHelping dogs who are afraid of elevatorsFear of strangersHelping reactive dogs in tricky environments like apartment buildings and citiesReactivity to other dogsFear of loud noisesHow the unfortunate side effects of shock collars can persist after training is overHow to persuade people not to use aversivesand more!Also mentioned in this episode: Understanding resource guarding in dogs (and what to do about it) with Lisa Skavienski https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/12905737 (episode 8)
Thank you to everyone who sent in questions for this episode and/or who attended the live event. If you'd like to see more events like this, let us know!
This event was arranged to celebrate the publication of my book Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, which is available wherever books are sold, including Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Bark-Science-Helping-Anxious-Reactive/dp/1778403328/ and Greystone Books https://greystonebooks.com/products/bark
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About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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We talk about the real world of conservation dogs and the fictional world of FBI dogs and conservation canines with Jen J. Danna, who writes under the name Sara Driscoll. Deadly Trade is the latest FBI K-9 mystery from author Sara Driscoll. K-9 handler Meg Jennings can never walk away from her job, even amid her Hawaiian Islands honeymoon, where she and her search-and-rescue black Lab encounter a double threat from wildlife poachers and Mother Nature.
We talked about:
The work of conservation dogs and what they do on the Hawaiian islandsWhy Sara was inspired to write about conservation canines in Deadly TradeHow to write about dogs as characters in their own rightThe kind of training that Hawk, the FBI canine, and the conservation dogs in the book would go through in real lifeHow the dogs influence the success of the missionHow Hawk picks up on things his handler, Meg, can'tWhy Sara chose to write about endangered birdsWhat it's like writing with a co-authorAnd as always, we ask for a book recommendation!Deadly Trade is published on 28th October 2025 and is available from all good bookstores.
Sara Driscoll is the pen name of Jen J. Danna, coauthor of the Abbott and Lowell Forensic Mysteries and author of the FBI K-9 Mysteries and NYPD Negotiators series. After over 30 years in infectious diseases research, Jen hung up her lab coat to concentrate on her real loveāwriting āexceptionalā thrillers (Publishers Weekly). She is a member of the Crime Writers of Canada and lives with her husband and four rescued cats outside of Toronto, Ontario.
Learn more about Sara Driscoll on her websites, saradriscollauthor.com and https://jenjdanna.com/.
Also mentioned in this episode:
Away to Me by Patricia McConnell PhD will be published in February 2026 and is available for pre-order nowYou can hear Patricia McConnell talking about the book at 2024's Bark! Fest, which is available as a previous episode of this podcast https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/16149739Learn about the work of historical scent detection dogs in an episode with Kim Cooper and Cat Warren https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17384889 The Hawaiian crow is the āAlalÄ. Learn about the āAlalÄ project https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/alalaproject/Support the show
About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
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Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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Demand barking is a type of barking that dogs do to get something they want, like a treat, toy, or attention. It happens because we've previously (accidentally) rewarded them for it. So what should you do if your dog is demand barking?
In this episode, we talk about:
How dogs bark for different reasons, including watchdog barking and barking due to fearWhat demand barking isWhy the phrase "demand barking" is actually a bit of a misnomerWe give examples of demand barking, including when Zazie's dog Pepper does thisWe share ideas and tips for what to do about itKristi talks about why she set up a course on this and what's includedAnd finally we talk about the books we're reading.The books we recommend in this episode are:
Spoiler Alert: You're Gonna Die by Korttany Finn and Jacquie PurcellJunie: A Novel by Chelene KnightAlso mentioned in this episode:
The episode on harmonious multidog households and resource guarding in dogs https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17835523 The episode on how to help your reactive or fearful dog https://www.buzzsprout.com/2183505/episodes/17695165The Hogan's Alley Society https://www.hogansalleysociety.org/Learn more about Kristi Benson and her courses: https://www.kristibenson.com/
Learn more about Zazie Todd: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/p/home.html
Get Zazie's books from all good bookstores or here: https://www.companionanimalpsychology.com/p/books.html
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About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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Dog sports are fun activities for you and your dog, but with so many to choose from, it can feel daunting to get started. We demystify dog sports with trainer Ayoka Bubar, a Rally Obedience judge who has taught (and tried) many different sports. She shares the details and tells us how to match sports to dogs.
We talked about:
Why Ayoka loves dog sportsWhy dog sports are good for dogsWe get examples: rally o, tricks training, barn hunt, and cartingWhich kinds of dogs and people these sports are best forThe best place to start if someone is interested in trying a dog sportThe role of a dog's breed in choosing a dog sportWhich dog sports are suitable for reactive and fearful dogsWhat Ayoka has learned from doing so many different dog sportsThe kind of community that is found amongst dog sports peopleAnd as always, we get a book recommendationAyoka chose Atomic Habits by James Clear as her book choice.
Ayoka Bubar is an approved judge for the Canadian Association of Rally Obedience and she never passes up an opportunity to try a new sport with her Rottweilers. She has trained or trialed in Flyball, Agility, Tracking, Trick Titling, Herding, Rally Obedience, Mondioring, IGP, and Scentwork, so she is the perfect person to tell us about dog sports. As well, Ayoka believes that dog training should be fun for dogs and their humans, which we love to hear. And she likes to use positive reinforcement techniques to help handlers communicate more effectively with their dogs.
Learn more and get details of classes at https://ayokabubar.com/
Ayoka on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ayoka.bubar
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theogrottendog/
Also mentioned in this episode:
Bark! The Science of Making Your Dog Happy by Zazie Todd. Available wherever books are sold.
Tricks classes by Erica Beckwith of A Matter of Manners Dog Training https://www.amatterofmannersdogtraining.com/
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About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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The benefits of having more than one dog and what you should do to ensure everyone gets along. We talk about:
How having another dog in the home can be beneficial for a dogHow it can cause issuesDisagreements between dogs are normal, just like people disagreeWhat kind of disagreement is okayThe mistake many people make which makes things worseHow to make sure resources aren't a source of stressHow to deal with dog fights and break them upManagement can be life-saving for multi-dog homesOn the fly training for polite interactionsAnd as always, we recommend some booksThe books recommended in this episode are:
How to P*** Off Men: 109 Things to Say to Shatter the Male Ego by Kyle Prue
Birds of Coastal British Columbia by Nancy Baron and John Acorn
This episode topic was suggested by a listener. If you have ideas for things you'd like us to talk about, let us know!
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About the co-hosts:
Kristi Benson is an honours graduate of, and now on staff with, the prestigious Academy for Dog Trainers and has her PCBC-A from the Pet Professional Accreditation Board. She lives in beautiful northern British Columbia, where she helps dog guardians through online classes. She is also a northern anthropologist.
Kristi Benson's website Facebook
Zazie Todd, PhD, is the award-winning author of Bark! The Science of Helping Your Anxious, Fearful, or Reactive Dog, Wag: The Science of Making Your Dog Happy and Purr: The Science of Making Your Cat Happy. She is the creator of the popular blog, Companion Animal Psychology, and has a column at Psychology Today. She lives in Maple Ridge, BC, with her husband, a dog and a cat.
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