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What if some of the most important questions in physics are still waiting to be properly asked? In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Chiara Marletto, physicist at the University of Oxford and co-developer of Constructor Theory alongside David Deutsch. Constructor Theory is one of the most ambitious new frameworks in fundamental physics today, going beneath the laws of motion to ask a deeper question: what is possible, what is impossible and why.
In this conversation, they explore:
What Constructor Theory is and how it offers a new way to think about physical reality, from information and thermodynamics to the physics of life and the mind
Why time may be more fundamental and more difficult to explain than current physical theories suggest
Why physics is not only a technical discipline, but also a deeply creative act of imagination and explanation
Why both the education system and the funding system increasingly struggle with forms of knowledge creation that cannot easily be measured or categorized
Why many of the most important research questions today do not fit existing institutional frameworks and therefore often remain underexplored
Why progress in science depends on creating environments where difficult and foundational questions can still be pursued
This is a conversation about knowledge, creativity, physics, and the institutional structures that shape what kinds of questions society is willing to explore.
Episode breakown:
00:00 - Introduction: Why Physics Needs a Revolution
02:37 - Constructor Theory Explained: A New Foundation for Physics
09:09 - Why Quantum Mechanics Can't Explain Information & Life
19:36 - Is Darwinian Evolution Just Physics? Reductionism Debate
30:47 - What Is Time Really? A Physicist's Surprising Answer
38:03 - Quantum Theory at 100: Why We've Stopped Making Progress
50:42 - The Physics of Consciousness & What AI Gets Wrong
1:01:18 - Why Science Funding Is Killing Fundamental Research
About Chiara Marletto
https://www.linkedin.com/in/chiara-marletto-1b2338227/
https://www.chiaramarletto.com/
https://www.constructortheory.org/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosopher and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI and Ex Machina â The God Experiment, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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The quantum computing race is obsessed with one number: qubit count. But what if thatâs simply not the right metric?
In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Thomas Luschmann, Co-Founder and COO of Peak Quantum â a Munich-based deep-tech startup that embeds error protection directly into the hardware architecture, rather than relying on costly error correction after the fact.
In this conversation, they explore:
Why more qubits alone will never deliver industrially useful quantum computing and what "better qubits" actually means
How Peak Quantum's hardware-intrinsic approach compares to cat qubits, fluxonium, and topological qubits
What it really takes to turn world-class university research into a fundable deep-tech company
Whether Europe can build a sovereign quantum future or whether economic reality will force its best startups to look elsewhere
What it means to build technology that may already be beyond our full understanding and what that tells us about where humanity is headed
Thomas also shares Peak Quantum's 12-month proof-of-concept roadmap and his honest take on deep-tech fundraising, talent, and the asymmetry of who gets access to the first truly powerful quantum machines.
Whether you're interested in quantum hardware, European innovation, or the deeper questions at the edge of science and society, this conversation goes well beyond the qubit count.
About Thomas Luschmann
https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-luschmann/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/peak-quantum-computing/
https://peakquantum.de/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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What if quantum computing allowed us to engineer nature at the atomic level? In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Professor Michelle Simmons, Founder & CEO of Silicon Quantum Computing and one of the worldâs leading quantum materials scientists.
For over 25 years, Simmons has pioneered a new approach to quantum computing, building systems atom by atom in silicon. This goes beyond faster computation. It opens the possibility to understand, simulate, and ultimately engineer nature itself.
In this conversation, we explore:
What it means to engineer nature at the atomic scale
The race to build a fault-tolerant quantum computer
Why silicon-based, atom-level qubits could unlock scalability
How quantum systems allow us to simulate and recreate materials (âquantum twinsâ)
The convergence of quantum computing and AI
The philosophical implications: Are we moving from observing nature to designing it?
Michelle shares insights into her companyâs roadmap toward a million-qubit quantum computer by 2033, and how her team is already delivering early products that accelerate AI and solve real-world problems.
Beyond technology, this episode explores the mindset behind innovation, where competition, collaboration, and curiosity come together to tackle some of the hardest challenges in science.
Whether you're interested in quantum computing, artificial intelligence, deep tech, or the future of innovation, this conversation offers a rare inside look at one of the most advanced fields shaping our world.
About Michelle Simmons
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-simmons-34662921a/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/silicon-quantum-computing-pty-ltd/
https://www.sqc.com.au/
About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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Europe is often seen as strong in science but weak in execution. In quantum technology, this is starting to change.
In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Prof. Tommaso Calarco, Director at Forschungszentrum JĂŒlich and one of the key figures behind Europeâs Quantum Flagship.
They discuss the current state of quantum technology in Europe, the global race with the US and China, and how Europe is moving from research into real-world deployment. Quantum systems are being deployed and tested in public infrastructure, supercomputing platforms, and communication networks across Europe.
This episode covers:
The future of quantum computing and quantum infrastructure in Europe
Europeâs role in the global quantum technology race
The challenge of venture capital, scale-up funding, and deep tech investment
Different approaches to quantum computing, including neutral atoms, semiconductors, and NV centers
How quantum communication infrastructure is being developed
Why quantum can strengthen European collaboration and technological sovereignty
The conversation also explores broader questions:
How quantum systems influence our understanding of information, probability, and decision-making
The role of education, quantum engineering, and interdisciplinary skills
How quantum technologies and AI influence society and governance
A grounded and forward-looking conversation on quantum and Europeâs position in the next wave of technology innovation.
About Tommaso Calarco
https://www.fz-juelich.de/en/research/research-fields/information/quantum-technology/tommaso-calarco
https://qt.eu/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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Most of the attention in quantum goes to computing. But there is another layer and itâs already being built.
Quantum networking is already being tested on real telecom infrastructure from New York to Deutsche Telekomâs network in Berlin.
In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Noel Goddard, CEO of Qunnect, about how quantum is being built, tested, and run in real infrastructure.
They discuss what quantum networks actually are, how they differ from todayâs internet, and why security is emerging as the first practical use case. The conversation also explores the technical challenges of building quantum infrastructure, the realities behind the hype, and what it takes to turn deep-tech research into deployable hardware.
Looking ahead, Noel outlines a longer-term vision: connecting quantum computers, sensors, and data centers â and building the foundation for a new layer of the internet.
A grounded and forward-looking conversation on quantum, infrastructure, and the future of information systems.
About Noel Goddardhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/noel-goddard-b973225/
About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Zeynep KorutĂŒrk, co-founder of Firgun Ventures and former Executive Director at Goldman Sachs, about the emerging investment landscape around quantum technologies.
Zeynep shares her perspective on how the quantum ecosystem has evolved over the past decade â from a field with only a few dozen startups to a rapidly expanding global industry with hundreds of companies. The conversation explores why the biggest bottleneck today may not be scientific progress, but capital: many promising quantum startups struggle to secure the Series A and Series B funding needed to scale.
Together, they discuss what it takes to invest in quantum technologies, how venture capital differs in a field rooted in physics rather than software, and why talent, engineering execution, and long-term vision are critical for identifying the future leaders of the industry.
The discussion also touches on geopolitics, the global race between the US, Europe, and China, the convergence of quantum computing with AI and biotechnology, and how investors should think about responsibility and long-term impact in technologies that could fundamentally reshape industries and economies.
This episode is a deep dive into the intersection of quantum science, venture capital, and the future of technological progress.
Episode breakdown:00:00 Introduction
02:03 Quantum Investment Landscape
05:04 The Evolution of Quantum Technologies
07:52 Investment Strategies in Quantum
10:49 Talent Acquisition in Quantum Startups
13:38 Navigating Series A and B Funding Challenges
16:47 The Asymmetric Upside of Quantum Computing
19:32 Differences Between Quantum and Traditional VC
22:30 The Future of Quantum Exits and Acquisitions
25:38 Balancing Scientific Breakthroughs with Commercial Viability
28:30 Geopolitical Implications of Quantum Technology
31:27 Global Landscape of Quantum Technology
35:00 Sovereign Capital and Geopolitical Dynamics
38:10 Convergence of AI, Quantum, and Biotech
41:07 Investor Responsibilities in Quantum Development
44:09 Future of Quantum Technology and Market Dynamics
46:52 Rethinking Economic Structures in a Quantum Era
48:38 Predictions for Quantum's Future and Investment Strategies
About Zeynep KorutĂŒrkhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/zeynepkoruturk/
About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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Time feels obvious to us. It flows from the past to the present and into the future. But in modern physics, time is anything but simple.
In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with theoretical physicist Dr. Sravan Kumar about one of the deepest mysteries in physics: the nature of time, black holes, and whether information can truly disappear from the universe.
Dr. Kumarâs recent work revisits EinsteinâRosen bridges â structures often associated with wormholes â and proposes a new interpretation of how spacetime, quantum mechanics, and gravity might be connected. The conversation explores questions such as whether the universe could contain two arrows of time, how the black hole information paradox might be resolved, and what these ideas could mean for the future of physics.
Dr. Sravan Kumar is a theoretical physicist whose research focuses on quantum gravity, black holes, and the early universe. His work explores how quantum mechanics and gravity may ultimately be unified to better understand the fundamental structure of reality.
The discussion became a fascinating exploration at the intersection of physics, philosophy, and the deeper questions about the universe.
Episode breakdown:
00:00 Introduction
01:54 Exploring the Nature of Time
06:49 Cultural Influences on Scientific Inquiry
11:51 The Journey into Quantum Gravity
16:29 Einstein-Rosen Bridges and Information Paradox
21:45 Two Arrows of Time and Information Preservation
26:37 The Emergence of Time and the Big Bang
31:13 Quantum Computing and Time Symmetry
46:10 Understanding Control in Quantum Systems
49:13 Simulating Quantum Gravity and Cosmic Phenomena
51:55 The Simulation Hypothesis and Its Implications
54:58 Exploring Information First Ontology
57:58 The Future of Quantum Computing and Society
01:02:09 Entanglement and Its Role in Space-Time
01:04:56 Consciousness and Quantum Mechanics
01:10:55 The Challenge of AI Hallucinations
01:18:59 Cross-Disciplinary Collaboration for Progress
About Sravan Kumarhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/k-sravan-kumar-a0b45b72/
A new understanding of EinsteinâRosen bridges: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1361-6382/ae3044
Other relevant detailed papers
https://www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/17/1/29
https://academic.oup.com/ptep/article/2024/12/123E01/7911842
https://www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/17/7/1056
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1475-7516/2024/06/001
Schrodinger's expanding Universes paper first pointed about Universe with two arrows of time: https://www.cambridge.org/gb/universitypress/subjects/physics/cosmology-relativity-and-gravitation/expanding-universe?format=PB&isbn=9780521172172
About Anders IndsetAnders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Dr. Pavel Hrmo, CEO and co-founder of ZuriQ â a Swiss quantum computing startup spun out of ETH ZĂŒrich.
ZuriQ is taking a radically different approach to one of quantum computingâs biggest challenges: scalability. Instead of relying on traditional one-dimensional ion chains, Dr. Hrmo and his team are developing a reconfigurable two-dimensional ion array using Penning trap architecture â a breakthrough that could unlock a new path toward large-scale, practical quantum systems.
Together, Anders and Pavel explore whether trapped-ion systems could become the foundation of scalable quantum computing, how ZuriQâs architecture differs from players like IonQ and Quantinuum, and how Europe positions itself in the global quantum race.
They also dive into deeper questions:
When will quantum computing create real economic impact?
How will AI and quantum computing converge?
Will AI accelerate quantum breakthroughs â or will quantum redefine AI?
Are there fundamental limits to computation and energy?
And are we approaching a âpost-theoryâ era where machines outperform human understanding?
From error correction and qubit scaling to AGI, creativity, and the philosophy of technology, this episode explores the intersection of physics, artificial intelligence, and the future of human agency in a world increasingly shaped by advanced computation.
A conversation about quantum systems and the limits of human understanding.
Episode breakdown:
00:00 Introduction
01:51 Quantum Computing Innovations
04:59 ZuriQâs Unique Approach to Scaling Qubits
07:30 Challenges and Opportunities in Quantum Computing
10:44 Comparing Quantum Technologies: Trapped Ions vs. Others
13:36 The Role of Engineering and Physics in Quantum Development
16:41 Economic Implications of Quantum Computing
19:38 The Future of Quantum Ecosystems
22:31 The Intersection of Quantum Computing and AI
25:54 The Nature of Creativity in AI and Quantum
28:38 Philosophical Implications of AI and Quantum Computing
34:04 The Intersection of AI and Human Creativity
36:34 The Limitations of AI in Understanding
41:03 Quantum Computing and Its Implications
43:58 The Role of Human Judgment in an AI-Driven World
48:07 The Future of Quantum Computing and Its Challenges
56:44 Ethical Considerations in AI and Quantum Technology
58:47 The Future of ZuriQ and European Tech Landscape
About Pavel Hrmo
https://www.linkedin.com/in/pavel-hrmo/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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What does it really take to make quantum computers work at scale? Anders Indset hosts Steve Brierley, founder & CEO of Riverlane, to unpack fault-tolerant quantum computing's potential to revolutionize chemistry, materials science, and climate tech.
Discover why qubits are so fragile, how 25 years of error rate improvements still fall short, and the trillion-operation leap needed for real-world impact. Steve reveals Riverlane's real-time error correction stackâaccelerating hardware roadmaps by 3-5 years across superconducting, trapped ions, neutral atoms, silicon spins, and NV centers.
Key insights:
Crossing the QEC threshold: From 1,000 to billions of error-free operations
Quantum + AI/HPC: Hybrid workflows for next-gen supercomputing
First applications: Quantum chemistry, materials design, efficient catalysts
Quantum computers as "programmable models of nature" for new physics discoveries
They also tackle big questions: Are quantum machines or nature's simulators? Can quantum-AI uncover new elements or physical laws? Is consciousness computable?
00:00 Introduction
01:37 The Fragility of Qubits and Error Correction
04:40 Engineering Challenges in Quantum Computing
07:40 Exploring Different Qubit Modalities
11:48 Commercial Pathways for Quantum Computing
13:58 The Role of Quantum Computing in Chemistry
18:40 The Intersection of Quantum Computing and AI
21:33 Quantum Mechanics: A Model of Nature
24:39 Exploring New Physics with Quantum Computers
34:34 Exploring Quantum Simulations and Reality
37:36 The Future of Quantum Computing and AI Convergence
42:07 The Implications of AI and Quantum Technologies
49:24 The Nature of Consciousness and Human Uniqueness
56:20 The Future of Quantum Error Correction and Industry Impact
About Steve Brierley
https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-brierley-72127a142/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Enrique Solano (CEO of Kipu Quantum) about the future of quantum computing, quantum AI, and artificial intelligence â and why waiting for a universal, fault-tolerant quantum computer may be the biggest mistake in the industry.
Solano challenges the dominant narrative around quantum technology. Universal quantum computers are not imminent, logical qubits are not yet scalable, and noisy quantum hardware is not useless â itâs an opportunity.
At the center of the conversation is his concept of quantum intelligence: hybrid classical-quantum systems that combine quantum computing and AI to unlock reasoning beyond both human cognition and classical supercomputers.
A sharp and contrarian discussion about quantum advantage, quantum-enhanced machine learning, AI hallucinations, and whether intelligence truly requires consciousness.
Episode breakdown:
00:00 Introduction
01:48 Unconventional Thinking
04:30 The Role of Creativity in the Age of AI
07:34 Challenges in Quantum Computing
10:40 The Reality of Quantum Hardware
13:38 Exploring Quantum Applications and Limitations
16:53 The Future of Quantum Computing and Its Impact
19:39 Innovations at Kipu Quantum
22:43 Commercial Implications of Quantum Technologies
38:38 Advancements in Quantum Computing and AI
41:03 The Future of Quantum Intelligence
47:06 Philosophical Perspectives on Reality and Consciousness
53:39 The Nature of Human Intelligence vs. AI
59:04 The Vision for Artificial Human Intelligence
01:07:54 Promising Developments for Humanity's Future
About Enrique Solano
https://www.linkedin.com/in/enrique-solano-812631154/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Carlos Moreira, founder and CEO of WISeKey and SEALSQ, one of the worldâs leading voices on digital trust, cybersecurity, quantum security, and sovereign technology. Recorded around the World Economic Forum in Davos, the conversation explores why trust has become critical infrastructure in the quantum age.
Moreira reflects on his three-decade journey from early work with the United Nations and the origins of the web in Geneva to building a global trust ecosystem spanning digital identity, post-quantum cryptography, semiconductors, satellites, and quantum computing. He explains why trust in the quantum era cannot be treated as a feature layered on top of technology, but must be embedded at the architectural level â comparable to energy grids or financial systems.
Together, they discuss quantum security, the coming âQ-Dayâ, the geopolitical implications of technology sovereignty, and why Europe must learn to scale global technology champions. The conversation also examines how quantum computing will reshape encryption, finance, AI, and digital identity, and what this means for governments, companies, and society.
Moreira shares his long-term vision for a human-centric digital future, where technology strengthens resilience, autonomy, and consent rather than control.
A focused, wide-ranging, and deeply personal conversation with one of the architects shaping the foundations of trust in the Fourth Industrial Revolution.
Episode breakdown:
00:00 Introduction
01:32 The Importance of Trust in Technology
04:42 Sovereignty and Decentralization in Technology
07:15 The Evolution of Digital Trust
10:22 Building a Trust Infrastructure
13:37 The Role of Quantum Computing
16:30 The Urgency of Post-Quantum Security
19:22 The Future of Identity and Consent
22:20 Cultural Shifts in Identity and Trust
34:32 The Evolution of Digital Identity
37:45 Empowering Individuals in the Digital Age
42:35 AI as a Tool for Enhanced Decision-Making
50:50 The Intersection of Humanity and Technology
57:19 The Future of Human Enhancement and Technology
01:02:37 Innovations on the Horizon: WISeKey and SEALSQ
About Carlos Moreira
https://www.linkedin.com/in/carloscreusmoreira/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with John Martinis, Nobel Prizeâwinning physicist (Nobel Prize in Physics, 2025) and one of the key architects of modern quantum computing, recorded at the World Economic Forum in Davos
Martinis reflects on his journey from early superconducting qubit experiments to the landmark quantum supremacy breakthrough at Google, and explains why building a scalable quantum computer is ultimately a systems-engineering challenge where manufacturability matters as much as physics. He shares his perspective on how quantum computing will complement classical computing and AI, why meaningful economic impact will take time, and why progress is likely to be slowerâbut ultimately deeperâthan todayâs hype suggests.
A focused and personal conversation with one of the scientists who helped turn quantum computing from theory into reality.
Episode breakdown:
00:00 Introduction
00:59 Quantum Supremacy
03:57 Engineer vs. Physicist
07:17 The Feynman Moment
11:16 Scaling Quantum Computing
20:42 From Academia to Industry
28:53 Economics of Quantum36:52 Where the Real Synergies Lie39:36 Consciousness, Language & the Limits of Computation
55:22 Why Progress Still Matters
About John Martinis
https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-martinis-5856911a6/ https://www.physics.ucsb.edu/people/john-martinis
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with LoĂŻc Henriet, CEO of Pasqal, about quantum computing as it moves from theory into reality.
They discuss how quantum technology is leaving the lab, why neutral-atom processors are emerging as a scalable path, and how quantum will complement classical computing and AI rather than replace them. The conversation includes a clear 2026 outlook, explores Europeâs role in technological sovereignty, and opens a philosophical discussion on emergence, responsibility, and what quantum technology could mean for human agency in a world shaped by supercomputing.
A focused conversation on quantum advantage, leadership, and what it truly means for breakthrough science to become real.
Episode breakdown:
00:00 Introduction
02:11 From Curiosity to Capability
08:01 Between Promise and Reality
13:18 From Lab to Market
18:25 Quantum as a Strategic Asset
25:02 Quantum Meets AI
35:35 Measuring Progress
43:06 Technology, Responsibility and Society
47:31 A Reflective View on Quantumâs Future
About LoĂŻc Henriet
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lo%C3%AFc-henriet-974b2a53/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosopher and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Andrew Cheung, Founder and CEO of 01 Quantum, about Q-Day, quantum computing, and the security risks already emerging today. They discuss why data can be stolen now and decrypted later, why the transition to quantum-safe security is more complex than most expect, and why execution speed matters more than technological hype.
A conversation about trust, leadership, and security in a post-quantum world.
Hereâs the breakdown of the episode:
00:00 Introduction
01:52 Quantum Reality Check
09:26 Understanding the Quantum Risk
23:01 The Quantum Security Dilemma
32:44 The Global Quantum Race
37:09 Making Quantum Security Real
44:13 What Comes Next
About Andrew Cheung
https://www.linkedin.com/in/acheungquantum/?originalSubdomain=ca
Anders Indset is the worldâs leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina â The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy â earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future.
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In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Johan Strömqvist â Founder & CEO of Single Technologies and a pioneer of 3-D DNA sequencing.Johan shares how his background in physics, photonics, and biotechnology led to the development of the worldâs fastest 3-D imaging system and a radically new way to read the code of life.
Together, Anders and Johan explore how biology is becoming programmable and why 3-D sequencing could transform whatâs possible in life sciences. They discuss how AI and future quantum technologies may accelerate breakthroughs in genomics, synthetic biology, and regenerative medicine â from organs-on-demand to new ways of understanding the human brain.
They also reflect on global competition in deep tech, Swedenâs role as an innovation hub, and the ethical implications of a world where life itself becomes writable code.
Hereâs the breakdown of the episode:
00:00 Introduction
01:55 From Engineering to Biotech
06:51 The Rise of 3D Sequencing
12:19 Making Life Visible
19:45 The Economics of Sequencing & Understanding Cells
27:29 Life Sciences Meets AI
37:51 Building Deep Tech
53:41 Ethics & the Future of Life Engineering
About Johan Strömqvist
https://www.linkedin.com/in/johan-str%C3%B6mqvist-5702492b/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.
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Anders Indset sits down with Steve Suarez â Founder & CEO of HorizonX, global quantum strategist, and former Global Head of Innovation at HSBC.
Steve explains how he fell in love with quantum technologies, why he created the Quantum Index, and what the data reveals about the industries and countries leading the global quantum race.
Together, Anders and Steve explore the future of quantum computing, the risks of hype, and why executive education is crucial for navigating the next wave of technological change. They also discuss the growing competition between Europe, the U.S., and the Middle East, and why the Gulf region is rapidly becoming a major deep-tech hub.
They reflect on the wider impact of emerging technologies, from new materials to personalized medicine, and why the coming decade may reshape how we think about innovation, value creation, and the role of humans in a rapidly accelerating world.
Hereâs the breakdown of the episode:
00:00 Introduction
01:50 Foundations of the Quantum Era
11:42 Education, Measurement & the Reality of Quantum Progress
20:02 The Quantum Index in Action
31:45 Global Quantum Dynamics & Competitive Landscapes
39:45 Quantum Technologyâs Impact on Society & Work
49:05 Consciousness, Technology & the Future of Reality
About Steve Suarez
https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesuarez/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.
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In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Liz Parrish â CEO of BioViva, pioneering advocate for gene therapies, and likely the worldâs most gene-modified person.
Drawing from her personal journey â from her sonâs type 1 diabetes diagnosis to her own decision to undergo multiple gene therapies â Liz shares how she became one of the most influential voices in longevity and regenerative medicine.
Together, they explore why aging may become optional, how regulation is slowing down life-saving innovation, and how gene therapy could progress from a frontier technology to a universal tool for human health.
These are the topics Liz and Anders are talking about:
00:00 Introduction
01:49 The Journey into Gene Therapy
13:14 Innovation Through Breaking Boundaries
21:41 The Biology of Tomorrow
36:24 Where Technology Meets Life
46:16 The Coming Human Future
01:01:37 Consciousness, Experience, and the Human Condition
About Liz Parrish
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizlparrish/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.
NEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643
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In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Alex Challans, CEO and co-founder of Resonance, the company behind The Quantum Insider â the leading global platform for intelligence and media in quantum technology.
Alex reflects on the early days of building The Quantum Insider and how Resonance has grown into a major deep-tech intelligence powerhouse. He shares why the quantum industry has moved from niche academic circles into a rapidly expanding global ecosystem powered by scientists, founders, investors, and governments.
Together, they explore the rise of the quantum economy, the convergence of quantum, AI, and space technologies, and how capital, timing, and technological breakthroughs are reshaping industries far beyond computing. Alex also gives a behind-the-scenes look at Our Quantum Future, Resonanceâs new documentary highlighting where the next decade of quantum innovation may take us.
These are the topics Alex and Anders are talking about:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:48) Entering the Quantum Era
(10:45) Navigating the Emerging Quantum Landscape
(19:28) Timing, Adoption & the Role of Government
(29:49) The Rise of the Quantum Economy
(40:41) QuantumâAI Interaction and Financial Infrastructures
(54:25) Shifting Market Dynamics and Our Quantum Future
About Alex Challans
https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexchallans/
About Our Quantum Future
https://ourquantumfuture.com/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.
NEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643
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In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Ben Bloom, co-founder and CEO of Atom Computing â one of the pioneers of neutral-atom quantum computers. From optical control and logical qubits to the next industrial revolution in materials science, Bloom shares how his team is scaling systems from thousands to tens of thousands of qubits and why this moment might mark the beginning of a new computational era.
These are the topics Ben and Anders are talking about:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:59) The Quantum Capital Debate
(04:13) Neutral Atoms in Quantum Computing
(06:00) Engineering Challenges and Scaling
(09:57) The Role of Classical Control
(11:40) Exotic Approaches and Future of Quantum
(15:25) The Journey of a Founder
(21:57) The Future of Quantum and AI Collaboration
(27:31) Societal Implications of Quantum Computing
(32:35) Scepticism and Optimism in AGI Development
(38:48) Industrial Use Cases and Implications
(42:13) Government's Role in Quantum Computing and Regulation
(45:02) Quantum vs. AI
(50:58) The Future of Manufacturing and Material Revolution
(54:10) Philosophical Implication on Quantum Mechanics
(58:06) Atomâs Future
More about Ben Bloom
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-bloom-8871598/
https://atom-computing.com/
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.
NEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643
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How are we building the quantum future responsibly?
Anders Indset speaks with Nick Farina, co-founder and CEO of EeroQ, a company taking one of the most unconventional paths in the race for scalable quantum systems: trapped electrons on liquid helium.
They explore how quantum progress unfolds â not in one defining moment, but through interlinked advances that amplify each other. From the physics of floating electrons to the philosophy of progress, this episode dives deep into how we can balance ambition and awareness as science, markets, and ethics converge to shape our shared future.
More about Nick Farina
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickfarina/
https://eeroq.com
https://x.com/nick_farina
About Anders Indset
Anders Indset is a leading business philosopher, author, and deep-tech investor. His latest book proposes Artificial Human Intelligence (AHI) as the future of humanity.
NEW BOOKThe Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI https://www.amazon.com/dp/1394309643
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