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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 1 of our recap of âThe Shepherdâs Crownâ.
Threes! Bees! Mephistopheles!
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Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
Terry Pratchett's final Discworld novel races to No 1 in book charts - The Guardian
The Shropshire Witches Podcast - RSS.com
Mephistopheles - Wikipedia
Tiffany Aching's Guide to Being a Witch â an interview with Rhianna Pratchett and Gabrielle Kent - The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret
Bedfordshire clanger - Wikipedia
Music: Chris Collins, indiemusicbox.com
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, a bonus episode! Weâre looking at World of Poo, Dodgerâs Guide to London and Mrs Bradshawâs Handbook.
Lavatories! Naughty Girls! Shirtless Vimes!
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Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
Beauty, what it is and how to retain it - Internet Archive
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 3 of our recap of âRaising Steamâ.
Train Fight! On the Roof!
Find us on the internet:
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Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
Visions of the Future | NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL)
Bradshaw's Guide - Wikipedia
The Meaning of Liff - Wikipedia
Cumulonimbus Incus Description: Anvil Cloud - WhatsThisCloud
Campaign for Level Boarding
Did John Wilkes Booth's Brother Save the Life of Abraham Lincoln's Son? - Snopes.com
Cranbury Park - Wikipedia
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 2 of our recap of âRaising Steamâ.
Peril! Punch-ups! Puns!
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
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Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambiThings we blathered on about:
Raising Steam: the Marquis de Aix-en-Pains? - /r/Discworld
Aeolipile | Steam Turbine, Invention & Usage - Britannica
No Such Thing As A Teaspoon Of Coal - (No Such Thing as a Fish) BBC Sounds
Cockney Rovers - Maybe it's Because I'm a Londoner sing along - YouTube
Swindon: the heritage of a railway town - Google Arts & Culture
Brief Encounter (1945) - IMDb
Change of Gauge (Entry 206.LV2733) - Omnibus
List of rail accidents (before 1880) - Wikipedia
Caution! Railway safety since 1913 - Railway Museum
175 years making Britainâs railways safer - Office of Rail and Road
The railway traveller's handy book of hints, suggestions, and advice - WikiMedia Commons
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Music: Chris Collins, indiemusicbox.com
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 1 of our recap of âRaising Steamâ.
Choo! Choo!
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Facebook: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
The Not-So-Great-Bake-Along '24 - Seven-Strand Plaited Note
Death's Domain - Discworld Emporium
Terry Pratchett: A Life With Footnotes - Penguin
Pippina - Discworld & Terry Pratchett Wiki
The Severn Valley Railway
Up And Down The Railway Lines! (1940) - YouTube
Richard Trevithick - Wikipedia
Lancashire Witch - Wikipedia
Lotus-eaters - Wikipedia
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, weâre celebrating 150 episodes!
Questions! Answers! Uncomfortable levels of emotion!
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Facebook: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
JOANNA'S BOOK! Friends and the Golden Age of the SitcomNote: My very quick attempt at adding the podcast episode durations together in Google Sheets gives me a total of 240 hours and 27 minutes. Is that right?! That canât be right. - F
7A.1 Discworld Podcasters and Eric - Desert Island Discworld
Watch Nothing Like A Dame - Prime Video
Buffering the Vampire Slayer
chimpanzee riding on a segway
Frozen Charlotte (doll) - Wikipedia
Joanna's tiara falls off
Music: Chris Collins, indiemusicbox.com
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 3 of our recap of âDodgerâ.
Rats! Rings! Shiny Shoes!
Find us on the internet:
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Things we blathered on about:
Stottie cake - Wikipedia
The Worst Cat - Tumblr
Crossbones Graveyard
201 : Street entertainers in Victorian times â Jeffrey Green. Historian
Story of cities #14: London's Great Stink heralds a wonder of the industrial world - The Guardian
Tales of the underworld - The Guardian
Some Punch cartoons on the subject: 1848, 1849, 1858, 1883
You're Dead to Me, Christmas with Charles Dickens - BBC
Alexander Morison - Wikipedia
Thomas Monro (art collector) - Wikipedia
Music: Chris Collins, indiemusicbox.com
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 2 of our recap of âDodgerâ.
Growlers! Percies! Firky-Toodles!
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Facebook: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
Terry Pratchett: 'What keeps me going is the fight' - The Independent
Pratchett audio interview from 2003 â one I'd not come across before - r/TTSMYF
Music, Language, and Earworms | What Literature Knows About Your Brain
The Balls Whistled Over Our Heads: Continentals and Cannonballs - Journal of the American Revolution
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 1 of our recap of âDodgerâ.
Farthings! Sovereigns! Bones!
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Facebook: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
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Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
Decoding TV
Dodger: An interview with Professor Sir Terry Pratchett. Part 1 - YouTube
Crown and Anchor - Wikipedia
Punch and Judy - Wikipedia
Charon's obol - Wikipedia
In Which a Trope Is Described - TV Tropes
London Labour and the London Poor (Vol. 2 of 4), by Henry MayhewâThe Project Gutenberg eBook
Sewer Gator - TV Tropes
Music: Chris Collins, indiemusicbox.com
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, weâre releasing a very special episode â a conversation with Ian Stewart, recorded live at the Discworld Convention 2024! We talk about Tiffany Aching books, the Science of Discworld, and involve the audience in a Very Scientific Poll on the best Witches book.
Magic! Science! LIVE!
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
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Email: [email protected]
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Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
Photos from DWCON 2024 - TTSMYF
Professor Ian Stewart FRS - Royal Society
Sir Terry Pratchett - The Science of Discworld - YouTube
Science of Discworld Series - Penguin
Jack Cohen obituary | Science | The Guardian
Terry Pratchett Receives Honorary Degree from University of Warwick [and awards honorary UU degrees to Ian Stewart and Jack Cohen]
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, usually read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week is a special bonus episode in which Joanna speaks about the release of her debut book, Friends and the Golden Age of the Sitcom.
Iâll! Be! There! For! You!
(And weâll be back soon with more bonus material, and your regularly scheduled nonsense in September â apologies again for the long summer hiatus!)
Buy the book/read more from Joanna:
Joanna Hagan's website
Pen and Sword Books: Friends and the Golden Age of the Sitcom - Hardback
Friends and the Golden Age of the Sitcom - Amazon.co.uk
Two-Hats Television - Joannaâs Substack
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Facebook: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Music: Chris Collins, indiemusicbox.com
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 3 of our recap of âSnuffâ.
Storms! Sand! Sailing!
Find us on the internet:Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Facebook: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:The panic of eating slightly later than usual. - Parents Of Tiktok
Victoria Wood - Swim the Channel - YouTube
The story behind the Oblivion mod Terry Pratchett worked on - Eurogamer.net
James Gordon Bennett Jr. - Wikipedia
Snuff *Warning Spoilers* | The Forums of Sir Terry Pratchett OBE
Music: Chris Collins, indiemusicbox.com
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 2 of our recap of âSnuffâ.
Caves! Rural! Pockets!
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Facebook: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
JoannaHagan.co.uk
Santino Fontana 'singing' a song in The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes - TikTok
How to pronounce unggue? - r/discworld
Elephant Dung 101 - Global Santuary for Elephants
Joanna in her authorial dressing gown
Mythical Creatures - Redcaps - BBC Sounds [Rhianna Pratchettâs podcast]
Full article: Taxonomizing Goblins from Folklore to Fiction Taylor & Francis [paywalled]
The Princess and the Goblin - Wikipedia
Goblin Market by Christina Rossetti - Poetry Foundation
Goblin Feet - Tolkien Gateway
Funny Little Things - Tolkien Gateway [poem from The Hobbit]
print; satirical print [Bewilderforce] - British Museum
The Tragic True-Crime Life of Lady Lucan - Noble Blood
Of the Dustmen of London - UC Santa Cruz
Music: Chris Collins, indiemusicbox.com
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 1 of our recap of âSnuffâ.
Trees! Sheep! What?
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Facebook: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
My Last Landlady, Neil Gaiman - YouTube
Snuff - Colin Smythe
Terry Pratchett interview - Snuff (Fast Forward) - YouTube
An interview with Sir Terry Pratchett (with Neil Gaiman) - Boing Boing
Garden hermit - Wikipedia
He's hired: Belgian lands 'dream job' as hermit for Austrian cliffside retreat - The Guardian
Hay Festival (@hayfestival) - X
Why is it called a Bowler Hat? - Lock & Co. Hatters
Trout tickling - Wikipedia
The âThursday Murder Clubâ Books Are Criminally Bad - Gawker (Via the Wayback Machine)
Music: Chris Collins, indiemusicbox.com
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 3 of our recap of âI Shall Wear Midnightâ.
Weddings! Funerals! Folklore!
Find us on the internet:
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Email: [email protected]
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Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
Television Without Pity's demise forces a generation to face the snark reality - The Guardian
The Leaping Hare by George Ewart Evans - Goodreads
the life and legend of michael scot - The Project Gutenberg
Jugging - Wikipedia
Watermarks & Foolscaps: Exploring the History of Paper Production - Alembic Rare Books
END BIT CREDIT: Sir Terry Pratchett in conversation with Dr Jacqueline Simpson in 2010 - The Folklore Society [Taken from part 1, near the end, but listen to the whole thing â thereâs more of the song as well as a fantastic conversation â and perhaps even invest in a membership. It's quite possibly the best non-essential on which I spend money.]
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 2 of our recap of âI Shall Wear Midnightâ.
Onions! Chickens! Omens Galore!
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
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Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
Angry White Boy Polka - YouTube
NOTE: the other quote about grasping nettles firmly is from Night Watch, not Equal Rites
18 Witches by Thy Last Drop - Spotify
Buying a wart from someone. : r/CasualUK
James Murrell - Wikipedia
Or, if youâre a member of the Folklore Society, this is the article I referenced: Cunning Murrell by Eric Maple
Sorcery on display: witch bottles - Museum of London
"Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria" - Maintenance Phase - Spotify
The Egg-Shell â The Kipling Society
Perennial dreams - the Horologium Florae - Francineâs Substack! This has a bit about Erasmus Darwinâs poetry.
Another lost Terry Pratchett story found.
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 1 of our recap of âI Shall Wear Midnightâ.
Hares! Flowers! Sticky things!
Find us on the internet:Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Facebook: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
Announcing: Designing Terry Pratchett's Discworld.
Dracula Daily
Terry Pratchett: Shaking Hands With Death - YouTube
Terry Pratchett: Choosing to Die (TV Movie 2011) - IMDb
Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling and Wake - Wikipedia
Cerne Abbas Giant: Has the mystery of the chalk hill figure been solved? - BBC News
Bulford Kiwi - Wikipedia
Master of the Revels - Wikipedia
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, weâre celebrating Terry Pratchett Day!
Jumping on the theme of âStart in the Wrong Placeâ - weâre talking about some of the best (and worst) places to get started with Terry Pratchettâs work.
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Facebook: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
Quiz - Discworld Emporium
Soul Music (TV series) - Wikipedia
DAVE GREENSLADE From The Discworld reviews
29: Eric Pt.1 (Corporate Nonsense Demon) - The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret
Lisa McCormick - BBC Radio 5 Live
Music: Chris Collins, indiemusicbox.com
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 3 of our recap of âNationâ.
Crabs! Red and Blue!
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Facebook: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
'Fallout': How to Succeed in the Postapocalypse Without Really Trying - Rolling Stone
Coney Islandâs Incubator Babies - JSTOR Daily
Aunt Sally Game - Cotswolds Info
THE IMPACT OF RED IN YOUR PAINTINGS Part 2 - Susan Harrison-Tustain Artist
The World Turned Upside Down - Wikipedia
Submillimeter Array - Wikipedia
Jupiter in Daylight - The Planetary Society
Music: Chris Collins, indiemusicbox.com
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The Truth Shall Make Ye Fret is a podcast in which your hosts, Joanna Hagan and Francine Carrel, read and recap every book from Sir Terry Pratchettâs Discworld series in chronological order.
This week, Part 2 of our recap of âNationâ.
Coconuts! Pineapples! Fish!
Find us on the internet:
Twitter: @MakeYeFretPod
Instagram: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Facebook: @TheTruthShallMakeYeFret
Email: [email protected]
Patreon: www.patreon.com/thetruthshallmakeyefret
Discord: https://discord.gg/29wMyuDHGP
Want to follow your hosts and their internet doings? Follow Joanna on twitter @joannahagan and follow Francine @francibambi
Things we blathered on about:
An appropriately unhinged recap of Pretty Little Liars (Part 1) - YouTube
THE Vampire Diaries Video - YouTube
Dimetrodon - Wikipedia
Save The Pacific Northwest Tree Octopus
Gospel of Mary - Wikipedia
And death shall have no dominion by Dylan Thomas - poets.org
austentatious out of context - YouTube [You can also buy a couple of their shows to download here: https://www.austentatiousimpro.com/shop/]
Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star - Wikipedia
Guns, Germs, and Steel - Wikipedia
The Book of Household Management - Mrs. Isabella Beeton. Volume 1. - Ex-Classics (PDF)
The rise, fall, and rise of the status pineapple - BBC News
Society for Indecency to Naked Animals - Wikipedia
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