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  • Creating trust with clients is essential to operating syndications and commercial investment properties. Building that trust is a cornerstone of long-term investing relationships.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Nic DeAngelo, president of Saint Investment Group. Saint Investment Group looks into large-scale distressed asset purchases and innovative syndications. Nic has more than two decades of experience in real estate and is an expert in investing and capital raising, specializing in real estate and debt markets.

    Jonathan and Nic explore Nic’s early exposure to real estate through books and a lifelong love of learning. You’ll hear Nic’s experiences with construction and banking, as well as how his family influenced where he decided to put his money. Nic explains what drew him to commercial real estate, why no particular personality type archives success in this industry, and the various jobs he tried before landing on his niche. Nic shares his perspective on residential versus commercial real estate, why scale determines your buy box, and offering clients transparency so that what you’re offering them is easy to understand. He reveals the two ways he decides whether to move forward with a deal, the influence baby boomers have on the market, and the impact of inflation, risk tolerance, and politics on investor timelines. Finally, Jonathan and Nic dig into not being afraid to invest with your “competition” in other asset classes, the value of providing education to your clients, and Nic’s advice for new investors.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    Nic DeAngelo’s exposure to real estate through books and lifelong learning, particularly Gary Keller’s book, “The Millionaire Real Estate Investor” His experiences in construction and banking and merging them to become an investor How Nic’s early experiences within his own family influenced where he put his money What drew him to commercial real estate The variation of personality types who achieve success in real estate in different niches Various jobs Nic tried before finding his niche Nic’s perspective on residential real estate versus commercial in the United States Why the scale of the operation determines the buy box The importance of transparency at such a level that clients can glance at a single page and grasp it Two ways Nic determines what deal to move toward and how the baby boomers are influencing the market How inflation, risk tolerance, and politics are impacting investors’ timelines Investing with your “competition” when they’re more versed in an asset class than you The two asset classes Nic specializes in Why education makes clients more likely to invest Nic DeAngelo’s advice for new investors

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  • Mindset could be your key to unlocking success in real estate investing.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes back Alyssa Holbrook, a master coach specializing in real estate investing, for a conversation on the power of mindset and strategic thinking. Alyssa shares her evolution from coaching small investors to high-net-worth individuals, highlighting the impact of personal growth. She stresses tailored coaching to navigate unique challenges and scale up investments, offering a perspective on how believing in bigger possibilities can open up greater opportunities.

    Jonathan and Alyssa explore the downsides of overanalyzing properties, making lowball offers, and discuss the balance between high returns and risk management. Alyssa points out the importance of confidence and proactivity in making sound investment decisions. You’ll also hear how different personality traits influence investment strategies and why you must understand your strengths and weaknesses. Trust and mentorship are critical elements for success, and Alyssa shares some tips for finding the right mentor and building meaningful, mutually beneficial relationships.

    Finally, Alyssa reveals some personal experiences and advice on combining detailed data analysis with firsthand property inspections. Learn how to navigate current market conditions, overcome emotions, and make informed choices.

    Whether you're new to real estate or an experienced investor, Alyssa offers tips for maintaining confidence, consistency, and dedication for long-term success.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    The importance of personal transformation and strategic thinking for scaling investments Balancing returns and managing risks in real estate investment Overcoming the drawbacks of over-analyzing and lowball offers How different personality traits affect investment strategies Alyssa Holbrook’s advice for finding and building meaningful relationships with mentors Decisiveness and the adaptability to weather fluctuating markets Strategically using home equity lines of credit in high-interest environments Combining thorough research with firsthand property inspections Alyssa’s strategies for scaling portfolios and the importance of consistency Her advice on building partnerships and leveraging competitive advantages Effective mentor-mentee relationships and structured coaching benefits Avoiding emotional involvement and remaining focused on sound investment decisions

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  • What if you could turn real estate into a vehicle for positive social change?

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Devana Came, a real estate investor passionate about creating high-quality sober living homes. From transparency with landlords to the fine line between profit and care, Devana offers her insights for those who want to make a meaningful impact through real estate.

    Devana reveals how the design and furnishing of a home can affect someone's recovery journey. She explains that a hands-on, compassionate approach can make all the difference, turning sober living homes into sanctuaries rather than just profit-generating assets. Her approach contrasts with the detached, financial mindset that can lead to less supportive living conditions. Jonathan and Devana also explore the ethical considerations and regulatory standards key to maintaining high-quality sober living spaces, ensuring these homes uplift and support their residents.

    Jonathan and Devana delve into the challenges of managing a sober living home. She shares some practical methods for nurturing a supportive community, including dealing with NIMBY (Not In My Backyard) neighbors and staff dynamics. Devana also underscores the potential of new build projects and co-living arrangements to enhance the sense of community and support within these homes.

    Devana's experiences and advice offer valuable guidance for creating sober living homes that make a difference.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    The main differences between owning and leasing sober living homes Creating transparency with landlords and the importance of community engagement The impact of thoughtful design and furnishing on recovery environments Some ethical considerations in sober living real estate investments Managing staff, conflict resolution, and reducing neighborhood opposition The financial and emotional rewards of investing in sober living homes The benefits of high-quality environments for resident morale and recovery outcomes Regulatory standards and distinctions between sober living homes and halfway houses Some of Devana’s strategies for successful operation, including the use of ADUs and co-living arrangements Devana's future plans and her mission to set quality standards in sober living homes

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  • Lisa Moore's path from a W-2 job to achieving time freedom with real estate investing is nothing short of inspirational.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Lisa to talk about how she created the life she wanted. Influenced early on by her mom's best friend, a top real estate agent, Lisa leaped into real estate investing when she moved to Utah. She shares her strategies for house hacking and turning single-family homes into income-generating properties, which allowed her to leave the corporate world at 37. Lisa also discusses planning for maintenance and vacancies to maintain profitability.

    Jonathan and Lisa discuss on-market MLS listings and off-market opportunities. Lisa emphasizes building relationships with neighbors and brokers, leading to lucrative deals and insights into local markets. You’ll hear the benefits of focusing on small to midsize multifamily units and the advantages of seller financing, especially when dealing with retiring baby boomers. Lisa's thoughts on local versus expanding markets are revealing for investors considering geographic diversification.

    Understanding real estate as a Limited Partner (LP) or an active investor can be critical. Lisa touches on the nuances of both roles and the importance of transparency and education from sponsors. She shares her experiences creating resources for new LPs and highlights the value of genuine connections and educating potential investors. By aligning with others with similar lifestyles and goals, Lisa has created a sustainable business model centered around long-term relationships in the investing community.

    Lisa Moore has achieved financial freedom, designed her ideal lifestyle through real estate, and is laying out exactly how she did it for you.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    Lisa Moore's path from W2 employee to financial independence at age 37 House hacking and transforming single-family homes into income-generating properties Strategies Lisa uses for planning maintenance and managing vacancies in real estate Her methods to initiate property deal flow, including MLS listings and off-market opportunities Building relationships with neighbors and brokers Lisa’s focus on local markets, specifically Utah and Idaho, and their advantages The benefits of targeting small to midsize multifamily units owned by retiring baby boomers The role of seller financing in real estate transactions Understanding the differences between being a Limited Partner (LP) and an active investor The importance of transparency and education from sponsors in investing Lisa Moore’s tips for building genuine connections and educating potential investors Using real estate as a tool for lifestyle architecture and achieving time freedom Creating long-term relationships with investors and aligning with like-minded people Overcoming challenges and embracing mistakes as learning opportunities Emphasizing quality over quantity in real estate investing and having long-term strategies

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  • Short-term rentals may be trendy in real estate investing, but creating comfortable corporate mid-term rentals can be just as lucrative with the right formula.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Vivian Yip, a public speaker, hospitality coach, mid-term rental entrepreneur, and the founder of Corporate Rentals USA by Hestia. Vivian is on a mission to become the trusted brand in mid-term rentals.

    Jonathan and Vivian unpack her childhood experiences alongside her parents, who were also real estate investors. She explains how those experiences helped her when she decided to pursue real estate investing as an adult. You’ll hear about Vivian’s first real estate investment, which was a house hack, who she rents to today, and why she got off Airbnb. Vivian shares what drew her away from the corporate world and into full-time real estate investing, what she loves about the hospitality side of mid-term rentals, and why she decided to focus on mid-term rentals versus short-term or long-term rentals. Vivian also delves into the work required to create successful mid-term rentals, guest screening, and using property management tools to set up a system for her properties. Finally, Jonathan and Vivian discuss the lack of comfortable corporate housing, the appeal of mid-term amenities, and how Vivian ensures a quality property for her guests. She also explains what her companies, Hestia and Hestia 360, do.

    Vivian Yip wants Hestia to be the go-to name in mid-term rentals, and she outlines precisely how she is accomplishing that in this episode.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    Vivian Yip’s experiences with real estate alongside her parents as a child How her experiences helped her when she decided to pursue real estate investing as an adult Vivian’s decision to invest in Austin and how her first home there’s appreciation allowed her to pay it off quickly Why she’s still house-hacking, who she rents to, and why she got off Airbnb Her transition away from the corporate world into full-time real estate investing The why behind Vivian’s drive to become an investor Creating hospitality and what makes it the key to success The work required to create a successful short- or mid-term rental and the importance of screening guests The two property management tools Vivian uses to set up a property management system for her mid-term properties The lack of comfortable corporate housing and what makes mid-term amenities so appealing The self-audit Vivian offers all of her hosts to allow them to fill an amenity need and sends an inspector to every property to certify corporate housing standards Components she ensures are in every property Ensuring that an area is safe for tenants and how Vivian vets that Hestia and Hestia 360 and what each arm of the business does Location’s importance for mid-term rentals versus that of short-term rentals What you should know about insurance stays Vivian’s class that teaches realtors how to become experts in their markets

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  • Working with a spouse or partner can be tough, but with the right systems in place and a clear vision for your future together, you can also create a healthy business relationship.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Tyler and Zosia Madden, the CEO and COO of Laurelless. They are real estate investors, entrepreneurs, and professional home flippers. Tyler is a general contractor and the visionary, whereas Zosia is the integrator.

    Jonathan, Tyler, and Zosia begin their conversation by exploring how Tyler started as an aspiring doctor and pivoted to become a general contractor and why Zosia maintained her high-income W-2 position as they started their entrepreneurial endeavors. You’ll hear when Zosia was ready to get on board with leaving her job and becoming a part of their business, Zosia and Tyler’s mutual goal of using real estate to achieve the lifestyle they both desired, and why making the right connections helped them find new properties and learn from others. Tyler and Zosia share their reliance on authenticity to create connections with others, their advice for first-time flippers in this challenging market, and why new flippers need to build good relationships with their subcontractors. Finally, Tyler and Zosia share how they keep their personal relationship strong even amidst business conflicts and failures.

    For many couples, working together may feel like a recipe for disaster, but Tyler and Zoia Madden discovered the secret sauce to establishing boundaries at work and home so that they could continue moving toward their shared goals for their family.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    How Tyler and Zosia Madden’s real estate career started with Tyler working solo and ultimately became a dual endeavor Why Zosia maintained her W-2 as they started their real estate investing business and the benefits it offered Zosia’s realization that she trusted where the business was going and loved the idea of it, particularly after becoming a mom The role of proof of concept in getting a spouse on board Using real estate as a couple to achieve the lifestyle that they want to live Making the right connections to find new properties and learn from them Being comfortable with being uncomfortable and getting into rooms with people who are smarter than you Maintaining authenticity to build genuine connections with others Moving past imposter syndrome and how having just a bit of it can help you continue to learn from others Earning the ability to ask someone for their time and knowledge while being meaningful, intentional, and interested Flipping homes in today’s market and Tyle and Zosia’s tips for first-timers who don’t know much Building relationships with your subcontractors and suppliers who will take care of you because you take care of them JV’ing on a flip with someone else to learn from them how to do a flip Keeping your personal relationship strong when the business side of things feels like it’s falling apart

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    Connect with Laurelless on Instagram - www.instagram.com/laurelless_

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  • Real estate investing is often dull, but its lack of excitement is what leads to long-term success.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Dani Beit-Or, a real estate mogul who started his path as essentially financially illiterate. Dani is the founder and CEO of Simply Do It, a company dedicated to assisting busy individuals make remote real estate investments. As an Israeli immigrant, Dani brings his unique perspective on real estate investing in the U.S. to his clients and helps them avoid common mistakes.

    Jonathan and Dani start their conversation by exploring Dani’s background as the child of traditional, conservative Israeli parents and how he was first exposed to real estate as an investment vehicle. You’ll hear why he discourages people from investing in hot markets, the general appeal of real estate, and how he defines a “negative role model.” Dani shares with Jonathan how his parents reacted to his decision to become an entrepreneur, where his first investment property was located, what he learned from it, and the lessons Dani took from the 2008 crash. Jonathan and Dani also discuss his systems and processes, why he doesn’t deviate from them, the mistakes new investors are making, and why you have to learn what questions to ask and get comfortable talking to people.

    Dani Beit-Or understands how to find his clients markets that perform well, and he wants others to know that real estate doesn’t have to be exciting to create wealth.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    Dani Beit-Or’s first exposure to real estate just after college Why he discourages people from investing in hot markets to make better money in a different market What Dani finds appealing about real estate versus other types of investments Dani’s definition of a “negative role model” and how that impacts the decisions he makes regarding money How his parents reacted to his entrepreneurial path instead of a traditional career path Dani’s first investment property in the Phoenix area and the lessons he took away from that investment The way his investments have changed over time and how the 2008 crash impacted him Creating systems and processes and why Dani doesn’t deviate from them The mistakes new investors are making today and the importance of having a local team to help you make decisions Why learning how to ask questions can save you in a transaction How Dani helps his clients overcome their discomfort in talking to people What Dani’s company, Simply Do It, does for his clients

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  • Single-family residential real estate may not be flashy, but it’s still a great investment—especially when you choose turnkey properties.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Marco Santarelli. Marco is an entrepreneur, investor, author, speaker, podcaster, educator, and the founder and CEO of Norada Capital Management and Norada Real Estate Investments, the largest nationwide provider of turnkey investment properties.

    Jonathan and Marco begin their conversation by discussing Marco’s first property flip at just 18 years old. You’ll hear how Marco cultivated an entrepreneurial mindset and the personality trait that helped him get started down this path at a young age. He shares why ignorance is expensive, why he no longer budgets to the penny, and what led him to found Norada Real Estate Investments to help others invest in turnkey properties. Marco reveals two concepts every investor should know, his favorite asset class (hint: it isn’t flashy), and his advice for brand-new investors. Finally, you’ll hear why networking with like-minded people is critical to building your knowledge base as an investor.

    Buying investment properties doesn’t have to mean purchasing fixers. Instead, you can consider working with someone like Marco, who specializes in matching investors with turnkey properties.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    Marco Santarelli’s first property flip at 18 years old and what interested him about real estate The entrepreneurial mindset, the time freedom it offers, educating yourself, and investing in assets that create an income and equity over time The personality trait Marco possessed that helped him get started at such a young age Why ignorance is expensive and creating a target to achieve success Understanding your finances and focusing on making money versus saving your way to wealth How Marco educated himself when he first began real estate investing and before the internet The story behind the founding of Marco’s turnkey real estate company The lure of turnkey properties and why no property is totally passive Two concepts Marco says investors should know Deciding whether you’re a cash flow investor or appreciation-based Marco’s exploration of other asset classes and what his favorite is Property management and caring for tenants like customers The advice Marco would offer to a brand-new investor and where he recommends starting Why networking with likeminded people is critical for building your knowledge base Norada Capital’s goal and what makes it great for investors

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  • Becoming the go-to wholesaler in your market can take time, but it can also establish trust within your community, leading to referrals and consistently good business.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jeremy Beland and Dan Toback of REI Freedom join Jonathan to share how they train others to become the go-to cash buyers and wholesalers in their local markets. In addition to REI Freedom, they own multiple home-buying companies and have successfully closed more than 400 off-market properties since 2017. Jeremy and Dan are entrepreneurs, coaches, and business owners finding houses everywhere.

    Jonathan begins his conversation with Dan and Jeremy by exploring how they each started the business and how having a singular focus from the beginning contributed to their success. Dan and Jeremy share how they built a local portal to remain consistent, becoming the largest homebuyers in their markets. You’ll hear the credibility they built by “landmarking,” why they treat real estate as a business, and the two advantages a local wholesaler has over a virtual wholesaler. Jonathan covers the traits Dan and Jeremy say a new wholesaler needs for success, what makes this a people business first, and avoiding mistakes the competition makes. They discuss why you should be helping sellers even if you aren’t the right buyer for the house, the importance of empathy and transparency, and why patience and creating relationships are crucial for long-term success.

    Wholesaling and cash-buying aren’t right for every investor, but with patience, empathy, and people skills, Jeremy and Dan are helping others find the same success in their own markets.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    Dan Toback and Jeremy Beland’s introductions to real estate Why having a singular focus has contributed to Dan and Jeremy’s success Building a local portal to remain consistent and how it led to becoming the largest homebuyer in their markets The credibility that “landmarking” builds within a market Treating real estate investing as a business The two advantages a local wholesaler has over a virtual wholesaler Traits Dan and Jeremy say a new wholesaler needs to be successful Why this is a people business first and commodity second Where people are moving when they sell their homes in Florida The mistakes their competition is making and how you can avoid those same mistakes Helping sellers even if they aren’t the right buyer for the house and building genuine empathy for their situation How transparency leads to the most success in real estate Setting expectations about the wholesaling process for sellers The necessity of patience for success Creating relationships with other investors for long-term success and support

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  • Industrial flex space may not be at the top of your mind—especially if you’re a new investor—but today’s guest makes a compelling case for getting into this asset class.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Cody Payne, Senior Vice President at Colliers International in Fort Worth, Texas. Cody specializes in selling office industrial space and flex investment properties. With almost two decades of experience behind him, Cody operates, owns, and sells as a real estate agent and industrial specialist.

    Jonathan and Cody start their discussion by exploring how Cody began his career in the industrial space, who the typical flex space tenants are, and why more companies are choosing flex spaces as satellite locations. You’ll hear what’s contributing to the rise in popularity of industrial assets, Cody’s thoughts on developing new properties versus existing ones, and why he advises investors to develop new builds in phases. They delve into the appeal of industrial spaces for business tenants who can’t afford a traditional retail or office space, the demographics to look for in a potential investment area, and how Cody guides new investors into this asset class. Finally, Jonathan and Cody cover doing due diligence, the must-have amenities, and Cody’s advice for those interested in finding an industrial investment.

    Industrial assets aren’t on every investor’s radar, and if they aren’t on yours, Cody makes an excellent case for considering this investment class.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    How Cody Payne began his career in industrial real estate The typical tenant profile of a flex space today versus in the past More parking in industrial spaces in comparison to retail, in addition to versatility Flex space as satellite locations of larger companies The qualities of industrial that make it a good investment Growth of this asset class and what’s contributing to its rise in popularity Cody’s thoughts on existing spaces in comparison to developing new properties Why he advises those who choose to build to do it in phases What’s driving office tenants toward industrial space instead of traditional office space The appeal of industrial spaces for business tenants who can’t afford traditional retail or office space Questions to ask to look for a great deal in the industrial asset class along with the ideal demographics of an area Finding the right investor for this asset class and who it appeals to How Cody guides new investors into the industrial asset class The importance of due diligence for these properties Areas around the country ripe for industrial flex space Amenities that are important right now in growing flex space income Cody’s advice for investors who are interested in getting into industrial

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  • Home flipping might be the most well-known method for real estate investing, and while interest rates and home prices have pushed many investors out of the space and into others, some flippers are still making it work.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes guest Gabe Cole to the show. Gabe is a home flipper in Southern California, known as one of the most expensive markets in the country, and has flipped hundreds of homes. He is a licensed real estate agent and the founder and team lead of REALM Residential, brokered by Real.

    As the show opens, Gabe explains how he initially got involved in real estate through his wife’s family, specifically his father-in-law, who was a top-producing agent in their market. Gabe’s father-in-law mentored and coached him while he learned the ropes. Jonathan and Gabe delve into how to identify properties that fit your buy box criteria, what he’s learned about buying outside of your buy box, and how he’s been successful in Southern California despite the high prices and low inventory. You’ll hear why you have to know who your end buyer is for a flip, the importance of raising capital through relationships, equity investors versus debt investors, and why you must have systems and processes in place. Gabe explains design’s role in a flip, the time freedom this career created for him and his family, the competitiveness of his market even for teardowns, and how other investors can find success even in Southern California.

    If you’re interested in home flipping but don’t think it’s profitable anymore, you won’t want to miss this conversation with Gabe Cole.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    Gabe Cole’s introduction to real estate through his wife’s family, including coaching and mentoring What he learned from working in the business as an agent before becoming an investor Identifying good investment properties that fit into your buy box The lesson Gabe learned when he bought outside of his buy box and why he sticks to what he knows now Finding success in the Southern California markets despite low inventory and high prices Knowing how your end buyer is and designing the flip toward that buyer The hardest part of learning to be a flipper for Gabe Taking into account how much you can push value based on the house Why you have to learn how to raise money to do more than one or two deals a year Presenting a flip as an opportunity for the person who is loaning the money Equity investors vs debt investors The importance of systems and processes, particularly when doing multiple flips and implementing numerous contractors Design’s importance in flipping properties The time freedom Gabe now has in his schedule Competitiveness even for teardowns and rundown homes Why he doesn’t typically buy homes from wholesalers Teaching other agents how to invest, particularly in high-priced markets like Southern California Where Gabe’s business is going in the future

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  • Mid-term rentals are an often-overlooked asset class that is gaining steam with investors. When short-term rentals prove to be too much work, mid-term rentals could be the answer.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan’s guest is Jamie Banks, a mid-term rental (MTR) investor who got her start with co-hosting. Jamie is also a multifamily investor and has quickly become an MTR expert with more than 20 managed properties under her supervision.

    As their conversation begins, Jonathan uncovers how Jamie started her post-college career with commercial lending, which quickly piqued her interest in becoming an investor. She explains why you should always take the deal as long as the numbers work and the property cash flows, the importance of building real-life connections with other investors, how she decided on MTRs as her area of focus, and how she hopes to set an example for other minorities in this asset class. Jamie shares why MTRs can work in any market size, the criteria you can use to identify your ideal tenant, and why you must understand the area where you’re offering an MTR. You’ll also hear Jamie’s reasoning for including a video in every listing, who’s using MTRs, the pros and cons of co-hosting, and some strategies she uses to remain successful in this asset class.

    If mid-term rentals aren’t on your radar, Jamie Banks makes a compelling case for why they should be.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    Jamie Banks’s introduction to real estate with commercial lending and asset management and moved into real estate investing Taking the deal as long as the numbers work and the property cash flows Having a healthy dose of imposter syndrome to overcome your fears and propel you forward Building real-life connections with other investors and deciding on medium-term rentals as the asset class to focus on Being a minority in the investing space and setting an example for others to follow Why MTRs can work in any market Identifying your ideal tenant for your MTR Doing your due diligence in an area and understanding the area where you’re offering an MTR Video versus photos in a listing and setting expectations about the property ahead of time Who uses mid-term rentals The properties in Jamie’s portfolio, where she sees gaps in the market availability, and what her focus is now Jamie’s strategy for narrowing down her next targeted market Her favorite things about mid-term rentals What makes mid-term rentals different from short-term rentals in terms of cleaning needs The pros and cons of co-hosting and how she does it effectively remotely The importance of having a runner to check in on things at an inexpensive rate that offers them experience as well Jamie’s advice for others who want to get into the mid-term rental asset class

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  • Specializing in a real estate niche can be lucrative for you, but with a long-term strategy in mind, it can also position you as the go-to expert who can influence local politics.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Chantal Duame, a licensed real estate agent based in Denver, Colorado. Chantal is the founder and managing partner of Good Neighbor Realty and a real estate investor who discovered a love of short-term rentals early on in her investing career. Her realty company works with investors who believe the good life includes a great real estate portfolio.

    Jonathan and Chantal start their conversation by exploring Chantal’s decision to become a licensed realtor, why she is an investor first and foremost, the benefits of having a license, and how being an investor herself benefits her clients. You’ll hear who fits Chantal’s ideal client profile, how she created multiple income streams with one property, and how politics can impact short-term rentals in local markets. She also explains how she remains competitive, professional, and successful in STRs, her thoughts on using mid-term rentals as a part of your strategy, and what it takes to be a great host.

    Short-term rentals is a niche still full of potential, and Chantal Duame is helping her clients take advantage of the lucrative opportunities available in this market.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    Why Chantal Duame became a licensed realtor and considers herself an investor first The benefits of having a real estate license as an investor How being an investor helps Chantal serve investors because she understands the industry Her ideal client and why you have to be clear on your value proposition Chantal’s first experience in real estate and what she learned about real wealth Her first investment property following her primary residence and how she created multiple streams of income from one property The appeal of short-term rentals and how Chantal’s knowledge of the space helps grow her business Politics in local markets and the impact Chantal has on the decisions they make regarding short-term rentals What she’s doing to remain competitive, professional, and successful in the booming STR market Ambiance and marketing’s value in the short-term rental space Chantal’s thoughts on using mid-term rentals as a part of your investing strategy The first piece of advice she would give to a new investor interested in her market The huge advantage of STRs and what it takes to be a good host Chantal Duame’s goals for future investments

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  • Not knowing where to find the answer to a problem can be a roadblock along the real estate investing journey, preventing investors from moving forward. Financing can be especially tricky, and finding a lender who presents real solutions is gold.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Stacy Patel to the show. Stacy is the co-founder of a private money group called Golden Handshake Capital. They work with investors doing fix-and-flips, BRRRs, wholesale, and more. Stacy also has a family-run real estate investment and solution firm, The Home Asset Experts, based in St. Petersburg, Florida. She has 20 years of experience in private money lending, in addition to her experience as an investor.

    Jonathan and Stacy start their conversation with what it means to provide solution-based lending, her belief in education and collaboration that creates structure for the long-term, and what earned her the nickname the “dream killer.” Stacy outlines her strict underwriting process, what makes the wholesale industry sometimes challenging, and the automated process she uses with white glove service. You’ll also hear why she is service-minded in every career she pursues, how to set firm conditions before agreeing to anything in a private money lending deal, and how transparency can benefit you as a new investor.

    If you’re a solutions-driven investor, you won’t want to miss Stacy Patel’s systematic approach to lending and investing.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    Stacy’s 20-year background as a private money lender and why she views it as a collaboration for success that benefits everyone Solution-based lending to help borrowers create more wealth and mitigate risk Education and collaboration to create structure for the long-term Why Stacy earned the nickname the “dream killer” Her strict underwriting process and the reasoning behind it The lack of transparency and integrity in the wholesale industry and why that sometimes makes it challenging to work with them as a lender Stewarding the money through the lending process so that when a problem pops up, Stacy can help Her automated process and the white glove service she offers Stacy’s service-minded perspective in every career she’s had Hard money lenders who are blowing up deals and why she’s frustrated with them Setting firm conditions before agreeing to anything based on the conditions underwriters must operate within Finding coaches or mentors in your local community who can guide you and amassing knowledge before spending Understanding that real estate is relational and not transactional Stacy’s first exposure to real estate’s power in her early 20s and the first thing she bought on her own What motivates Stacy when she buys a new piece of real estate and the properties she prefers How transparency can benefit you as a new investor

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    Connect with Stacy on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/stacypatel

    The Private Money Lending Network for Real Estate group - www.facebook.com/groups/privatemoneylendingnetwork

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  • Trusting what you see investors doing on social media can be tempting, but looks can sometimes be deceiving.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Denis Shapiro, Managing Partner of SIH Capital Group. Denis began investing in real estate in 2012. Over the years, he has created a diversified portfolio that includes ATM funds, mobile home parks, life insurance policies, tech startups, and industrial property. Denis is also the author of The Alternative Investment Almanac: Expert Insights on Building Personal Wealth in Non-Traditional Ways.

    Jonathan and Denis begin their discussion by delving into Denis’s early exposure to real estate with the book Rich Dad, Poor Dad, and why it didn’t stick the first time around. They cover the lessons he’s teaching his kids about money using Monopoly, why he loves having a diversified portfolio, and what types of affordable housing he prefers. Denis explains how he finds off-market deals in the affordable housing space, the three asset classes he loves the most, and why private lending is an integral part of the three pillars of his business. You’ll hear why creating relationships is crucial to his business model rather than leaning on reputation, why taking actionable steps matters when introducing yourself to other investors, and the value of knowing your skillset and having a basic knowledge of terminology at your disposal. Finally, Denis emphasizes being cautious when choosing syndications to invest with and knowing what uncomfortable questions to ask.

    Denis’s career is centered on relationships and trust, which continues to help his business scale and thrive.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    Denis Shapiro’s early exposure to real estate investing and his pivot from a career in government to real estate investing What Monopoly is teaching his kids about real estate investing The lessons he’s trying to teach his kids about money and why having money doesn’t necessarily make you rich Why Denis loves being diversified with his investments His first property and some of the big lessons he learned from it The importance of having a team in place to help manage affordable properties at scale The types of affordable housing Denis prefers, and the barrier of entry red tape creates that you won’t find in commercial real estate Finding off-market deals in the affordable housing space The three asset classes Denis loves the most and why he stays focused on those Private lending and what makes it an attractive pillar in his business model Creating relationships with other investors and building trust instead of basing a business deal on reputation Learning to ask the right questions as a new investor Taking actionable steps when you’re working on building relationships with people you want to work with Why knowing your skillset and some industry terminology can improve how you relate to those you want to learn from and work with What you can learn from LP investors and being careful when choosing syndications Denis’s advice for not becoming too dependent on track records and knowing what uncomfortable questions to ask

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  • Building unique, remote short-term rentals can be a complex process, but it can also be gratifying. You’re often taking a property that would otherwise be demolished and turning it into something that can be appreciated for years to come. The guests it attracts typically appreciate its unique qualities, ensuring your asset will be well cared for.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Kristie Wolfe, who builds handcrafted one-of-a-kind experiences for her short-term rental properties. Kristie built her first tiny house in 2011 as a social experiment for her own idea of living simply and deliberately. She currently owns a treehouse in Hawaii, an underground hobbit hole in Washington, a fire lookout in the Idaho Panhandle, and a potato hotel in Boise, Idaho.

    Jonathan and Kristie begin their conversation by exploring how she became interested in creating unique homes that offer one-of-a-kind experiences, what gave her the idea she could do this full-time, and what draws her to being off-grid and saving properties that would otherwise be demolished. Kristie shares how she creates connections with her guests using personal touches, the challenges of building and renovating in remote locales, and what it was like to build a Hobbit House. She also explains how the potato hotel idea came to fruition, the time it takes her to build out one of these properties, her plans for future properties, and what she would tell someone else who wants to get into creating niche short-term rentals.

    If you’re interested in short-term rentals but want to do something a bit different than the norm, this conversation with Kristie is everything you’re looking for.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    How Kristie Wolfe got into creating unique Airbnb experiences by trying to replace her factory job income Her first property, which she bought sight unseen in Hawaii with owner financing, when it became profitable, and how she found it Overcoming analysis paralysis and the character traits that allow Kristie to move forward quickly with decisions about properties The appeal of being off-grid The pandemic’s impact on Kristie’s business model and why being off-grid proved to be a wise business decision Why she’s building out properties that other people aren’t doing The appeal behind finding and saving a property that no one else wants The two things Kristie does in each property to build a connection with her guests Her repeat customers, what keeps them coming back, and the personal touch she offers to those who stay in every property The challenges of getting materials and teams to properties in remote locales The timeline for completing the projects Kristie’s fire lookout tower projects and what she loves about them Her Hobbit House’s origin story How her guests find her and why social media is important for Kristie’s marketing The story behind her potato hotel and why people love it The cocoon cottage and what took so long to put it together What’s in Kristie’s future plans, and why she likes the idea of redoing an old school, firehouse, or church Her advice for someone who might want to take on these sorts of projects Creating a listing to attract the right guests for your unique property

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  • Most investors start investing careers in one asset class and switch to another. Today’s guest discovered his path early and stuck with it.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes guest Michael Zaransky of MZ Capital Partners. Michael is the founder and managing principal of MZ Capital Partners, which concentrates on investment, property acquisition, and development. Michael began his career with triple-net leases and quickly moved to multifamily properties.

    Jonathan and Michael’s conversation begins with why Michael received a law degree but never practiced. They discuss some of the advantages and disadvantages of real estate today, especially regarding technology use, what Michael learned from his first investment, and what you should look for in an emerging neighborhood you want to invest in. He shares how building new versus purchasing existing structures can be beneficial, his preference for land versus property with existing structures, and what goes into choosing unit configurations for a development. Jonathan and Michael explore what makes the traditional multifamily model appealing, his entrance into the single-family market in Knoxville, and why he continues to purchase assets in his local Chicago market. Finally, you’ll hear why amenities matter in multifamily housing, the generational differences that impact a tenant’s rental preferences, and the biggest struggle in attaining equity in bigger syndications.

    If you’ve ever wondered what it’s like to jump into multifamily instead of exploring other asset classes first, you won’t want to miss this episode with Michael Zaransky.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    Why Michael Zaransky pivoted to real estate after law school and never became a traditional attorney Real estate’s evolution and the advantages and disadvantages of being online Michael’s decision to invest in a triple-net lease as his first investment and what he learned from that experience His investments in some of Chicago’s emerging neighborhoods and staying on top of what’s going on in the local market The stores to look for in an area you’re considering for investment Michael’s advice for familiarizing yourself with a neighborhood Building new versus purchasing existing structures and what influences those decisions Development and his preference for land versus a property with an existing asset that requires demolition The property size Michael prefers and what’s needed to manage them Choosing unit configurations for a development Managing student housing and how it differs from other types of multifamily properties What he likes about the traditional multifamily model How a recent acquisition in Knoxville, Tennessee, took Michael Zaransky into the single-family rental market with 87 single-family homes The buying opportunities coming up in Michael’s local Chicago market Offering amenities to help scale out on rents and outpace older buildings built just as apartments What each generation is looking for in an apartment Why Michael sticks primarily to multifamily instead of branching out to other asset classes The biggest struggle in attaining equity in bigger syndications and Michael’s advice for someone just starting in this real estate niche

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  • Self-storage is appealing as a passive investment opportunity. Most interactions are with your tenants’ belongings. And if you don’t have to construct the building from scratch, it can be an incredibly lucrative investment opportunity.

    On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan’s guest is Clint Harris, a general partner and investor relations specialist with Nomad Capital. Like nearly everyone, Clint began his real estate investing with single-family properties. He pivoted to multifamily and Airbnbs and finally landed on self-storage syndications. Clint’s self-storage path has a unique twist because he and his partners convert retail facilities, such as old Kmart buildings, into self-storage buildings. Clint’s background also includes 15 years in medical device sales.

    As Jonathan and Clint begin their conversation, Clint shares his two mistakes when he started real estate investing and the three ways he discovered to get to the independence of purpose. They explore what led him to self-storage, the fallacy of passive income, what you should consider before committing to any real estate project, and being slow to hire property managers and quick to fire them. Jonathan and Clint cover how he invested in his first self-storage conversion using vertical integrations, how long it takes for a conversion to cash flow, and why passive investment strategies should be a part of your portfolio. Finally, they explore the generational differences in using self-storage and Clint’s advice for new investors who don’t know what direction to take.

    It can take a while to hit your stride as an investor, but Clint Harris makes a compelling case for investing in passive assets like self-storage.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    The two mistakes Clint Harris made as he began real estate investing Why appreciation makes more millionaires and billionaires than cash flow Two questions Clint asked himself to start moving toward independence of purpose and the three ways he discovered he could get there What led him to self-storage and why they’ve been lucrative investments Return of time and why most real estate investors eventually seek that out instead of equity or cash flow The fallacy of passive income Getting on the same page with your spouse or partner and aligning your goals to create a plan to achieve them What you should ask yourself before committing to any real estate project Hiring property managers and why you should be slow to hire and quick to fire them How Clint invested in his first conversion to self-storage, which was an old Kmart building, using vertical integrations The reason converting old retail buildings to self-storage works for Clint The length of time it takes to create cash flow in a self-storage conversion Why a passive investment strategy should be part of your investing portfolio Features Clint Harris looks for in a building as he considers it for self-storage The generational differences in the usage of self-storage units His advice for new investors who aren’t yet sure what direction they want to take

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  • Aside from the invention of the nail gun, technology has remained relatively unchanged in the last 75 years when it comes to constructing real estate. One company is trying to change that and make the industry more efficient and less wasteful.

    On today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan’s guest is Damion Lupo, the Chief Investment Officer of FrameTec. Over the last 30 years, Damion has owned more than 65 companies and personally purchased over 150 houses, apartment complexes, and condos in seven states. He has a long history in real estate, and with FrameTec, he’s modernizing manufacturing and disrupting the construction industry.

    Jonathan and Damion begin their conversation by outlining how FrameTec is disrupting the construction business, the gap it’s filling, and why it’s causing both excitement and panic. You’ll hear what losing everything during the 2008 crash taught Damion, how a lack of patience can be detrimental in this business, and two things you can do to avoid making drastic investing mistakes. He also shares where to look for people you can trust and learn from, how to avoid FOMO, and why you should never be afraid to do the work. Finally, Damion outlines the scope of FrameTec, how it will revolutionize real estate, and the huge problem FrameTec is set to solve.

    Disrupting construction is a big goal, but Damion Lupo is well on his way to changing the face of the industry.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    What FrameTec does and how the company is disrupting the construction business The gap FrameTec is filling in the construction industry and why it’s causing both panic and excitement How this new construction model is positively impacting local communities and helping to alleviate the housing shortage Damion Lupo’s introduction to real estate in the ‘90s and the mistakes he made during the 2008 crash Why it’s essential to have people you respect and trust to point out your blind spots and have a mission beyond money Remaining focused and not overleveraged yourself so that you become distracted The biggest mistakes people make when they have money but lack patience Two things you can do to avoid making drastic mistakes with your investing Where to find people you can eventually trust and learn from Avoiding FOMO, having a five- to ten-year plan, being patient, and putting in the work Why you should never take advice from people who make less money than you Asking the right questions to get an honest answer and a deeper understanding of the concept The overall scope of FrameTec, how it’s going to help real estate, and the huge problem FrameTec is set to solve Gaps in construction post-2008 and why big wealth isn’t in turnkey properties How you can be successful by just offering customer service Investing in yourself to move forward Damion’s many books and what drives him to write them

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  • On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes guest James Hwang, who found his niche in mid-term rentals. James is well on his way to building a large medium-term rental portfolio after starting with nothing. By day, he is an oncology pharmacist. By night, he’s a real estate investor, renovating the projects he takes on.

    Jonathan and James jump into his story, beginning with the troubles his parents experienced owning rentals when James was a child. They explore why James settled on a multifamily as his first rental, why he believes strongly in giving to others and building a community, and how he was introduced to mid-term rentals. You’ll hear the income differential between long- and mid-term rentals, the systems James put into place to manage his properties, and the questions to ask yourself before entering the mid-term rental market. James explains the importance of vetting prospective tenants carefully, mixing in long-term rentals with mid-terms, and the ability to offer those tenants other properties once you’ve built your portfolio. Finally, Jonathan and James explore why mid-terms don’t need to be flashy, what his properties offer that others don’t, and using arbitrage to get ahead in the real estate game.

    James Hwang quickly figured out what would work for him as a new investor, and he’s eager to help others learn to do the same.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    When James Hwang realized real estate would be a part of his future His parents’ experiences with real estate, why it was initially off-putting, and how he changed their minds about it James’s first investment property and why he chose a multifamily The techniques he used to manage his stress as he began purchasing properties Giving to others, building a community, and why it ultimately will be reciprocated What drew him to the idea of mid-term rentals, and how he got started The income differential between long-term and mid-term rentals Putting systems into place to manage properties and matching those to your goals Questions to ask yourself before jumping into the mid-term rental game Vetting your tenants carefully and ensuring you’re acting as a good landlord Mixing in long-term rentals with mid-terms to maintain steady cashflow Humanizing the landlord-tenant relationship and remembering that when increasing rents Being able to offer potential tenants other properties once you’ve built an economy of scale How James bought a duplex with mid-term rental opportunities in mind Why mid-terms don’t need to be as flashy as short-term rentals What PPL is and why that matters when you’re offering mid-term rentals The arbitrage he’s created and how it’s benefitting his business and the owner’s Security deposits and rent while using arbitrage James’s overall goal with arbitrage at the apartment complex he’s in

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