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If we find ourselves off track in life, how can we ground ourselves and find our flow again?
When Josh Groban first stepped on stage as a shy 7th grader assigned a solo by his music teacher, his own mother didn’t know he could sing. Fast-forward three decades, and Josh has sold 35 million records worldwide. Josh’s rise to fame as a singer, songwriter and actor happened relatively quickly, he says, and along the way, he sometimes lost sight of what he cared about, pursued the wrong things, and experienced loneliness and depression. Through those difficult times, Josh sought therapy and built deeper connections with loved ones and learned to turn to them for support.
In this episode, Dr. Murthy and Josh Groban explore the challenges of navigating life when it becomes overwhelming, the power of the arts to heal, the importance the arts for young people, and how music has the power to transport us.
(07:09) Did Josh ever imagine his music could bring healing for people?
(09:30) Why are teachers so important for young artists?
(08:18) How Josh dealt with self-doubt
(23:01) What helped ground Josh as his fame grew?
(27:03) How does Josh know when he’s chasing the right things?
(33:34) How does Josh find the balance between hustle and flow?
(40:32) The isolation of fame
(49:43) The courage to work with a therapist
(55:30) The power behind Josh’s song “River”
(01:04) What do the arts do for our mental health & well-being?
(01:07:36) How is Josh Groban supporting the arts for young people?
(01:10:12) Why does Dr. Murthy feel so connected to Josh Groban?
(01:13:36) Why should we pursue experiencing the arts in our lives?
(01:17:02) Where has Dr. Murthy turned for inspiration or solace in music?
(01:18:47) Can we create more access to the arts for young people and turn STEM to STEAM?
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Josh Groban, Singer and Actor
Instagram: @joshgroban
Facebook: @joshgroban
About Josh Groban
Josh Groban possesses one of the most outstanding and instantly recognizable voices in music. A powerhouse vocalist and dynamic renaissance man, he has sold over 35 million albums worldwide. ATony, EMMY, and five-time GRAMMY Award-nominated singer, songwriter, actor, and philanthropist, his catalog spans a series of chart-topping blockbuster albums, including “Josh Groban” (5x-platinum), “Closer” (6x-platinum), “Noël” (6x-platinum), “Awake” (2x-platinum), “Illuminations”, “All That Echoes” (gold), “Stages” (gold), his first UK #1 album, “Bridges”, and his most recent release, “Harmony”. Along the way, he has packed arenas throughout North America, Europe, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, and Asia.
Groban made his Broadway debut in 2016 with a starring role in “Natasha, Pierre & The Great Comet of 1812,” for which he garnered a Tony Award nomination for Best Lead Actor In A Musical. In the spring of 2023, Josh took to Broadway once again, performing in the highly anticipated revival of “Sweeney Todd”, playing the title role which earned him Tony and GRAMMY Nominations along with widespread acclaim.Groban is also a known presence on television, with appearances on “Glee”, “The Simpsons”, “The Office”, “CSI: NY, It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia”, and “The Crazy Ones” as well as in the feature films “Coffee Town”, “Muppets Most Wanted”, and “Crazy, Stupid, Love”. In addition, he starred in the NETFLIX series “The Good Cop” in 2018.
In 2022, he returned to the hallowed stage of Radio City Music Hall for his Great Big Radio City Show residency and launched a nation-wide live tour. Also that year, Groban also starred in ABC’s special “Beauty and the Beast: A 30th Celebration” as none other than the Beast.
Groban remains an active arts education philanthropist and advocate, and his Find Your Light Foundation helps enrich the lives of young people through arts, education, and cultural awareness.
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Growing up in a small, crowded apartment in Los Angeles, Christian Robinson drew castles, imaginary scenes, and gave himself special powers to create the world he wished to inhabit. Inspired by a grandmother who knew how to make something out of nothing, Robinson nurtured his art into a very real superpower – the ability to help children understand the world and feel they matter. This conversation between the nation’s doctor and a celebrated author and illustrator is about creativity, honesty, why we all matter, and the kind of feedback you receive when your primary audience is young children.
Christian Robinson, Illustrator and Author
Instagram: @theartoffun
Twitter: @theartoffunnews
Facebook: @TheArtOfFunNews
About Christian Robinson
Christian Robinson is an illustrator, author, animator, and designer based in Oakland, California. He was born in Los Angeles and grew up in a small one-bedroom apartment with his brother, two cousins, aunt, and grandmother. Drawing became a way to make space for himself and to create the kind of world he wanted to see. He studied animation at the California Institute of the Arts and would later work with the Sesame Workshop and Pixar Animation Studios before becoming an illustrator of books for children. The Christian Robinson for Target collection, released in August 2021, includes more than 70 items across home and apparel for kids and baby. His books include the #1 New York Times bestseller Last Stop on Market Street, written by Matt de la Peña, which was awarded a Caldecott Honor, a Coretta Scott King Illustrator Honor, and the Newbery Medal, and the #1 New York Times bestseller The Bench, written by Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex. His solo projects include Another, which was named a New York Times Best Illustrated Book of 2019, and the New York Times bestseller You Matter. His latest collaboration with Matt de la Peña, Milo Imagines The World, received six starred reviews and was a #1 Indie Bestseller and a New York Times bestseller. He looks forward to one day seeing the aurora borealis.
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How can we create a meaningful life in a self-centered world? Have our societal notions of success misled us? How does connection underpin our sense of meaning? What practical skills do we need to understand other humans? And what do morals and values have to do with any of this?
A few years ago, David Brooks, columnist & cultural commentator, experienced deep personal loss. He suddenly found himself emotionally at sea. As he looked for ways to keep his head afloat, he realized he wasn’t alone; that somehow many Americans had become disconnected from their families or beliefs or way of life. Brooks saw an America drifting from its values and morals, to the point that the basics of human relations were out of reach. Instead of moralizing, Brooks set out on a journey to find people who are truly connected and anchored, and to learn what they do and how they do it.
In this episode, the Surgeon General and David Brooks dig into deep questions. In a world that can feel uncertain and pressured, this episode is a pause to ask what stories we tell, about ourselves and the world, and to think about what gives each of us a sense of meaning in our lives.
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(03:33) Why is America in a state of emotional pain?
(00:08) Can we even talk about morals, values, and social skills?
(11:38) People or government: where can we find moral support?
(14:06) Can AI provide emotional sustenance for humans?
(17:56) How can parents help kids build a moral foundation?
(21:16) Is being social a teachable skill?
(25:03) What is the “moral and relational hunger” that fascinates David Brooks?
(27:52) David Brooks’ personal quest to better relate to people.
(29:30) Can the pressure of striving de-humanize us?
(31:25) How can we be authentic in a world of likes and clicks?
(35:06) How do external notions of “success” shape us?
(38:41) What is the story of the Weavers?
(42:38) How can we build up the Weaver movement?
(45:12) How do we expand positive social norms?
(48:45) How's your social life? What keeps you from hosting gatherings?
(55:47) Can we connect across difference?
(01:01:13) Where does David Brooks find hope?
(01:04:12) Is faith a source of inspiration for David Brooks?
David Brooks, Columnist
Twitter: @nytdavidbrooks
Weave: the Social Fabric Project: @weavetheppl
About David Brooks
David Brooks is a columnist for The New York Times and a contributor to The Atlantic. He is a commentator on “The PBS Newshour."
His most recent book, “The Second Mountain,” shows what can happen when we put commitment-making and relationships at the center of our lives. He is also the author of “The Road to Character,” “Bobos In Paradise: The New Upper Class and How They Got There” and “The Social Animal: The Hidden Sources of Love, Character, and Achievement.”
Mr. Brooks is on the faculty of Yale University and is a member of the American Academy of Arts & Sciences.
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What does it mean to succeed when you’ve reached the Olympic podium? How do you separate that success from your sense of self-worth?
The world knows Chloe Kim as one of the greatest athletes ever. At 17, Chloe was the youngest person to win an Olympic gold medal in snowboarding. She was the first to win two gold medals in the Halfpipe. She was the first female snowboarder to have landed back-to-back 1080s. She is the first athlete ever to win all four major snowboarding titles in the Olympics, Worlds, Youth Olympics and X Games.
Under the pressure and expectations of the world, how does Chloe stay true to herself? Now 24, Chloe holds so much wisdom. Grappling with her incredible success, she has sought to understand what truly matters - insights that have come from her moments of pain and struggle. In this conversation, Chloe opens up about how she found her way through her depression and anxiety. And how she finds inner peace. As the children of immigrant parents, Chloe and the Surgeon General talk about family and what the American Dream means to them.
Ultimately, this episode is a meditation on where we find meaning in life.
(00:03:15) Dr. Murthy and Chloe sort out Team Dog vs Team Cat tension.
(00:05:38) Where did Chloe’s love of snowboarding come from?
(00:08:55) What inspired Chloe’s parents to come to America?
(00:12:45) What were the early days of snowboarding like for Chloe?
(00:14:25) How Chloe learned to be fearless on the slopes & off the slopes
(00:17:27) How do people’s expectations of success affect Chloe?
(00:20:50) How did Chloe get through her mental health struggles?
(00:25:05) How did Chloe turn to therapy?
(00:27:45) What brings Chloe (and Dr. Murthy) inner peace?
(00:32:58) How do you live a life that’s grounded in love?
(00:38:20) What gives Chloe a sense of purpose when things get hard?
(00:39:41) Chloe’s evolving definition of success.
(00:44:12) Chloe on her relationship to self-worth and loving herself.
(00:47:04) What is Chloe’s relationship to social media?
(00:52:17) What does Chloe want her parents to know about what they mean to her?
Special thanks to the President's Council on Sports, Fitness & Nutrition for collaboration on this episode.
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Chloe Kim, Snowboarder
Instagram: @chloekim
About Chloe Kim
The 2022 Winter Olympics cemented Chloe Kim as the female face of both snowboarding and action sports when she became the first female in history to win back-to-back Olympic gold medals in halfpipe snowboarding. After being accepted to Princeton University, Kim took the 2019–20 season off from competing to focus on her education. Returning in January 2021, after a 20-month hiatus from snowboarding competition, Kim continued her dominance of the sport, winning all 4 women’s superpipe events in the 2020–21 season including her seventh X Games gold medal and her second World Championship.
Kim has had just as much success off the mountain as she’s had on it. She’s been featured on Forbes 30 Under 30 list, Time Magazine’s 100 Most Influential People list, and Time’s 30 Most Influential Teens list (3 years in a row), as well as the cover of Time Magazine, Shape Magazine, Sports Illustrated, Sports Illustrated Kids, and ESPN Magazine. She also had an appearance in a Maroon 5 video and the Charlie’s Angels reboot. Additionally, Kim has taken home 5 ESPY Awards, the 2022 Daring to Disrupt Award at Glamour Women of the Year Awards, 3 Nickelodeon Kids Choice Sports Awards, and 2 Laureus World Sports Awards. Kim was appointed as a member of the President’s Council on Sports, Fitness & Nutrition on March 24, 2023, for a 2-year term. Kim, whose parents emigrated from Korea, now lives in Los Angeles and has been recognized for her positive impact in the Asian American community. -
Judy Woodruff is not done asking questions. A decorated and respected journalist, she anchored the PBS NewsHour for 15 years until she stepped down in 2022. Now, at age 79, she is traveling the country to answer: what is at the root of the division and disconnection our country faces today? And how do we fix that? To understand across different perspectives requires the ability to listen. At 79, Judy has honed this skill. In the decades Judy spent reporting on Americans and our politics (starting when Jimmy Carter declared his run for president) as well as raising her three children, she has seen enormous change in how people relate to one another. In this episode, we hear her views on the value of really listening to others and having respect, even when we might not agree with or understand, someone.
(03:15) Judy Woodruff’s interest in divisiveness in America
(12:05) How have political divisions evolved during Judy’s career?
(17:13) How Judy became a journalist
(22:12) Where did Judy find support in an era when few women were in journalism?
(26:16) The role of her mother
(33:08) How can we keep family and friends centered when work takes us away?
(34:45) How does Judy define success?
(36:57) The balance of success, creating meaning, and parenting
(44:36) Why listening and respect is essential to Judy’s work.
(46:54) How does Judy handle difficult interviews?
(51:58) Where does Judy find respite when she needs a break?
(55:37) Is Judy hopeful about the world?
(57:50) Is there someone Judy hasn’t interviewed whom she’d love to?
(58:08) Judy shares a funny on-set moment
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Judy Woodruff, Journalist
Twitter: @judywoodruff
Instagram: @judywoodruffpbs
About Judy Woodruff
Broadcast journalist Judy Woodruff is the Senior Correspondent for the PBS NewsHour, after serving for 11 years as its Anchor and Managing Editor. During 2023 and 2024, she is undertaking a reporting project, “America at a Crossroads,” to better understand the country’s political divide. She has covered politics and other news for more than four decades at CNN, NBC, and PBS.
The recipient of numerous awards, including the Peabody Journalistic Integrity Award, the Poynter Medal, an Emmy for Lifetime Achievement, and the Radcliffe Medal, she and the late Gwen Ifill were together awarded Arizona State University’s Walter Cronkite Award for Excellence in Journalism after Woodruff and Ifill were named co-anchors of the PBS NewsHour in 2013, marking the first time an American national news broadcast would be co-anchored by two women.
For 12 years, Woodruff served as anchor and senior correspondent for CNN, where her duties included anchoring the weekday program, Inside Politics. At PBS from 1983 to 1993, she was the chief Washington correspondent for The MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour. From 1984-1990, she also anchored PBS' award-winning weekly documentary series, Frontline with Judy Woodruff. In 2011, Woodruff was the principal reporter for the PBS documentary “Nancy Reagan: The Role of a Lifetime”. And in 2007, she completed an extensive project for PBS and other news outlets on the views of young Americans called “Generation Next: Speak Up. Be Heard”.
At NBC News, Woodruff was White House correspondent from 1977 to 1982. For one year after that she served as NBC's Today show chief Washington correspondent. She wrote the book, “This is Judy Woodruff at the White House,” published in 1982 by Addison-Wesley. Woodruff is a founding co-chair of the International Women's Media Foundation, an organization dedicated to promoting and encouraging women in communication industries worldwide.
Woodruff is a graduate of Duke University, where she is a trustee emerita. She lives in Washington, DC, with her husband, journalist Al Hunt, and they are the parents of three children.
