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This week, celebrity correspondent Eve Lindley tells Sarah about why we should all be thankful for Amy Winehouse. Note: this episode depicts struggles with eating disorders, addiction and self harm. Please listen with care. We are thankful for you, too.
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This week, American Hysteria’s Chelsey Weber-Smith gives Sarah some exposure therapy.
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"What is it about the culture that has conditioned us to favor the wants and needs and desires, however horrible, of a serial murderer, as opposed to--most often--the women and girls that they harmed and killed?" This week, Sarah Weinman takes us on a backpacking trip through true crime history and American pop culture, and tells us about the myths and realities of criminal profiling—and why they're sometimes so hard to pull apart. And finally, we ask the ultimate taboo question: are serial killers boring?
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The Case of the Fake Sherlock
What lies beneath: the secrets of France’s top serial killer expert
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This week, Heather Radke brings us a tale of pageants, eugenics, and butts.
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This week, Sarah tells her favorite kind of story to American Hysteria’s Chelsey Weber-Smith: one where two girls hoaxed the world without trying very hard.
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This week, we bring you a re-release from our bonus vault as Sarah tells Carolyn Kendrick about the making of Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours. We learn about the worlds of songwriting and production, how the music business has changed since the 1970’s, and of course all the interpersonal relationships that make us love to love this band.
We will be back next week with a new episode.
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This week, we fight the real enemy with Allyson McCabe.
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This week, national treasure Amanda Knox talks with Sarah about what the American legal system claims to be for, what it’s actually doing, and what might be possible in the future. They entertain the most heretical ideas they can think of, which mostly seem to be about unconditional love and mercy. And at the end, Sarah’s ghost boyfriend Clarence Darrow turns up.
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This week, survival correspondent Blair Braverman tells Sarah the story of a Supertramp. In 1996, Jon Krakauer's book Into the Wild described a young man, Chris McCandless, who changed his name, walked into the Alaskan bush, and died after mistakenly eating a toxic plant. Or did he? Now, Sarah and Blair talk about the McCandless archive and its legacy in conversations around wilderness, Alaska, violence, and more.
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Here’s some money, go see a Porn War. This week we’re going on a field trip to Times Square with Nona Willis Aronowitz, author of Bad Sex, to learn about Deep Throat, “porno chic,” and the unresolved feminist battle over whether to eradicate pornography or make more of it. Digressions include Carol Clover, this discovery of the clitoris, and Harry Reems (Joel Reems’ distant cousin).
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This week, Eric Michael Garcia tells Sarah about America’s barely forgotten pastime, plus the Supreme Court’s long history of horrifying decisions. Digressions include due process, The Evil Dead, and what Hitler admired about the United States.
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Episode Resources:
https://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-forgotten-lessons-of-the-american-eugenics-movement
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/reckoning-with-our-mistakes/
http://eugenicsarchive.ca/discover/tree/512fa0d334c5399e2c000005#:~:text=Kellogg%20was%20a%20vocal%20eugenicist,hygiene%20(Kellogg%2C%201913)
https://allthatsinteresting.com/john-harvey-kellogg
http://www.eugenicsarchive.org/html/eugenics/static/images/1013.html
https://www.oyez.org/cases/1900-1940/274us200
https://eugenicsarchive.ca/discover/connections/530ba18176f0db569b00001b
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/04/adam-serwer-madison-grant-white-nationalism/583258/
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Where did all these prisons come from? WBEZ’s Shannon Heffernan is here to give us part of the answer, which involves “small government” (of course), Lennie Briscoe (as always), the pink flowers of Alcatraz, and a prison sweepstakes that produced the actual worst song of the 80s.
Two quick corrections via Shannon:
"I said Illinois has potential plans to shrink one prison and close another. That was an error. Both plans are about shrinking facilities. I said CO's have a life expectancy of 56 years, the stat I meant to quote is 59 but since our interview, I discovered that statistic (and the stat about divorce) to be from studies/sources that are considered very weak so I've stopped using them."
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We want to play a game. This week, Dana Schwartz stuffs us in an iron maiden and explains why the most famous Medieval torture devices are none of the above. Digressions include the Kings Cross Wax Museum, getting stabbed in the butt, and the pivot to video era.
Links to stuff discussed within:
5 Of The Most Gruesome Medieval Torture Devices [Buzzfeed]
Sutton hoo artifact [1]
Sutton hoo artifact [2]
Coat of shame [1]
Coat of shame [2]Here's where to find Dana:
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From our friends at Maintenance Phase, the story of how Nestlé executives, global health institutions and a very racist white lady seeded a nutritional myth we're still living with today.
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Mike and Sarah have big feelings about an enduring debate. Digressions include “Carrie,” party planning etiquette and Whole Foods cafeterias. Sarah’s sound quality changes midway through because she moves from a McDonald’s parking lot to a Hardee’s parking lot.
Special thanks to Meredith Clark and Allissa Richardson for helping us with the history section of this episode!
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Natalie Wynn's "Canceling" Drag Them: A brief etymology of so-called “cancel culture”The Long and Tortured History of Cancel CultureThe strange journey of ‘cancel,’ from a Black-culture punchline to a White-grievance watchwordWhy Attacking ‘Cancel Culture’ And ‘Woke’ People Is Becoming The GOP’s New Political StrategyTales From the Teenage Cancel CultureGenerational Cycles in American Politics, 1952–2016It’s Not Callout Culture. It’s Accountability.An Incomplete (but growing) History of Harassment Campaigns since 2003The State of Online Harassment“Did We Create This Monster?” How Twitter Turned Toxic Morally Motivated Networked Harassment as Normative ReinforcementSupport the Show.
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Mike tells Sarah how liberal magazines turned a "kids these days" moral panic into a national crisis. Digressions include Law & Order, Dave Foley and swimming pool etiquette. This episode contains detailed descriptions of sexual assault, mass shootings and suicide.
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John Wilson’s The Myth of Political CorrectnessJon Weiner's Historians in TroubleNeil Gross’s Why Are Professors Liberal and Why Do Conservatives Care?Political Correctness: How The Right Invented A Phantom EnemyThe Fraying Of AmericaThe Rising Hegemony of the Politically CorrectAre You Telling Me That I'm Politically Correct?Are You Politically Correct?The Rising Hegemony of the Politically CorrectThere Is No Campus Free Speech Crisis: A Close Look at the Evidence
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Mike tells Sarah the real reason Congress called a bunch of rockers to Washington D.C. Digressions include cartoon violence, sleeveless tees and Trixie Mattel. Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher" and Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It" are dissected at length.
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The hearing transcript Dee Snider's memoirFrank Zappa's memoirRunning with the Devil: Power, Gender, and Madness in Heavy Metal MusicMusic-Evoked Emotions—Current Studies Don’t Let The Man Get You Down: Rock and Roll and The Development of The Parents’ Music Resource CenterSave the Children: The Parents’ Music Resource Center and Media ActivismHighway to Hell: Laws, Lawsuits, and Moral Panic over Heavy Metal MusicThe Parents’ Music Resource Center: From Information to Censorship“Leer-Ics” or Lyrics: Teenage Impressions of Rock 'n' RollParental Advisory – Explicit Content: The Parents Music Resource Center, Conservative Music Censorship, and the Protection of ChildrenAndrew Hartman’s A War for the Soul of America: A History of the Culture WarsThe Effects of Violent Music on Children and AdolescentsA Comparative Historical Analysis of Post-war Moral Panics and the Construction of Youth from 1938 to 2010
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Mike tells Sarah how a congressional wife started a moral crusade. Digressions include Sheena Easton, Satanic rhymes and teen homicide statistics. Ozzy Osbourne's bat story is recounted in full.
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Save the Children: The Parents’ Music Resource Center and Media ActivismEverything you need to know about Ozzy Osbourne biting the head off a bat in Des MoinesHighway to Hell: Laws, Lawsuits, and Moral Panic over Heavy Metal Music, The Emergence of Youth Suicide: An Epidemiologic Analysis and Public Health PerspectiveThe Role of Gun Supply in 1980s and 1990s Youth ViolenceThe Parents’ Music Resource Center: From Information to CensorshipParental Advisory – Explicit Content: The Parents Music Resource Center, Conservative Music Censorship, and the Protection of ChildrenAndrew Hartman’s A War for the Soul of America: A History of the Culture WarsTrends in Premarital Sex in the United States, 1954–2003'I'd Sell You Suicide': Pop Music and Moral Panic in the Age of Marilyn MansonA Comparative Historical Analysis of Post-war Moral Panics and the Construction of Youth from 1938 to 2010“Children Having Children,” the 1985 moral panic article in Time
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Mike tells Sarah the complicated story of an over-simplified study. Digressions include Tonya Harding, "The Meg" and Kitty Genovese. The Milgram obedience studies and the "broken windows" theory of policing receive bonus debunkings.
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The Original StudyPhilip Zimbardo's "The Lucifer Effect"Zimbardo's 1973 NYT articleDavid Jaffee’s precursor study at Toyon HallBen Blum's "The Lifespan of a Lie"The Stanford prison experiment in introductory psychology textbooks: A content analysisThe Real Lesson of the Stanford Prison ExperimentRevisiting the Stanford Prison Experiment: Could Participant Self-Selection Have Led to the Cruelty?Interpersonal Dynamics in a Simulated Prison: A Methodological AnalysisThe Obedience Alibi: Milgram's Account of the Holocaust Reconsidered Obedience in Perspective: Psychology and the HolocaustUnchaining the Stanford Prison Experiment: Philip Zimbardo’s famous study falls under scrutinyThe Secrets of Abu Ghraib Revealed: American Soldiers on Trial
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This week, Mike and Sarah dissect the Creepy Encounters subreddit and how to handle our creepy feelings in an unsafe time and place. Digressions include Carol Kane, McDonald's and Uber. Sarah wonders if human traffickers have taken serial killers’ jobs.
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"I was almost sex trafficked and didn’t realize until nearly a year later""Homeless lady approaches my car while i’m eating alone at the Mcdonald’s, doesn’t realize i’m not stupid""Do not let your Uber Driver cancel your ride while in the car"
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