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In this special live discussion, I’m joined by Pavel from the Psicoactivo Podcast to break down one of the biggest flashpoints currently developing in the UAP conversation.
Ross Coulthart and UAP Gerb have both raised serious questions around Lue Elizondo’s alleged past role within the so-called legacy program, his possible involvement in controlled disclosure, and whether he would be the right person to lead any future UAP transparency effort.
We discuss what Ross said, why Gerb’s comments have landed so strongly, the rumoured “UAP czar” role, the divide between controlled disclosure and full transparency, and how David Grusch may have changed the entire direction of the conversation.
We also get into the wider implications for whistleblowers, national security, amnesty, The Age of Disclosure, Jay Stratton’s upcoming book, and whether the UAP community is entering a new and more fractured phase.
This is not about character assassination. It is a conversation about trust, disclosure, secrecy, and who the public should rely on as this topic moves forward.
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Andy joins the Doomer Friday crew for a wide-ranging discussion on the Disclosure Forum, the reaction to the event, the role of new UFO organisations, and whether the public is being prepared for genuine disclosure or a heavily managed version of it.
We get into the tone of the Forum, the awards, the lack of truly new information, and the bigger question of what these events are actually trying to achieve. The conversation also turns to whistleblowers like Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland, possible executive action around protections, the rumours of a UFO “czar”, and whether any future disclosure process will prioritise truth, accountability, or control.
This one goes deep into amnesty, historical crimes, classified reality, national security, the threat narrative, global disclosure, and whether the world would actually change if the truth finally came out.
A huge thanks to the Doomer Friday team for having me back on.
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The Disclosure Forum reaction
Was the event serious enough?
Awards, optics and public trust
Whistleblowers and legal protection
Matthew Brown, Dylan Borland and Vanguard
The possibility of a UFO czar
Controlled disclosure vs full disclosure
Amnesty, accountability and hidden crimes
Would the public care about the cover-up?
Is “reality classified”?
The threat narrative and national security
What disclosure could actually look like
Why the world may not change overnightCheck out Dans show - https://www.youtube.com/@OFAMpodcast
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This week’s UAP news is moving fast.
Andy breaks down the newly discussed UAP Science Advisory Council connected to Avi Loeb, the controversial appointment of Michael Shermer, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments on possible new UAP file drops, the upcoming MKUltra hearing, and the Disclosure Foundation Forum in Washington DC.
From Congress and science to intelligence secrecy, whistleblowers, psychology and public trust, the conversation is no longer just about whether UFOs are real. It is about who controls the information, who gets brought into the room, and whether we are seeing real transparency or the next stage of the cover-up.
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Andy is joined by John Priestland and Dr Martin Abbass from Unhidden, a UK-based, medically led organisation looking at one of the most overlooked parts of the UAP conversation: the people.
Their new report, *Preparing for Disclosure*, asks what might happen if society is confronted with information that fundamentally changes our understanding of reality, and whether governments, health systems, doctors, therapists and communities are remotely prepared for the psychological and social impact.
This conversation explores stigma, experiencers, mental health, ontological shock, public health preparedness, the role of clinicians, and why disclosure — if it ever comes — may not only be a political or scientific issue, but a human one.
A different kind of conversation, but an important one.
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Professor Avi Loeb returns to That UFO Podcast following his appointment to lead the Science Advisory Council supporting the new U.S. government UAP governance structure.
In this conversation, Avi explains how the council came together, who is involved, how it will interact with government agencies, and whether meaningful progress can be made using only unclassified information.
We discuss the latest UAP file releases, the role of skepticism within the council, why Michael Shermer was included, whistleblower protections, transparency, and whether the public can expect regular updates from the group's work.
We also explore Avi's views on crash retrieval claims, biologics, the possibility of non-human technology, and the debate surrounding Dr. Beatriz Villarroel's pre-Sputnik transient research.
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• The new U.S. UAP governance structure
• Avi's role leading the Science Advisory Council
• Access to classified vs unclassified data
• Recent UAP document releases
• Crash retrieval and biologics claims
• Whistleblower protections
• Michael Shermer's inclusion on the council
• Beatriz Villarroel's transient research
• The search for conclusive evidenceGot thoughts on the new council or a question for a future Avi Loeb appearance? Let me know in the comments.
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In Part 2 of my extended conversation with Richard Dolan, we move beyond disclosure politics and into some of the deepest questions surrounding the UFO phenomenon.
We discuss whether some aspects of the phenomenon may be darker than many researchers are willing to admit, why Richard believes humanity may be facing challenges of its own making, and what decades of UFO and USO reports suggest about the behaviour of the intelligence behind these encounters.
Drawing on research from his new book, A History of USOs Volume 2, Richard explains how studying patterns across thousands of cases has changed his understanding of the phenomenon and what it may reveal about the long-term presence of these objects around our planet.
We also discuss:
Whether the phenomenon has our best interests at heart The listener question asking if Richard is "holding something back" Alien behaviour and adaptation Humanity's future and technological dependence Why Richard fears human actions more than non-human intelligence Historical and modern USO cases Underwater UFO encounters Behavioural patterns across decades of sightings The USS Franklin D. Roosevelt case How Richard researched and analysed thousands of reports What the data may reveal about the phenomenon's intentionsThis is Part 2 of a special extended conversation with Richard Dolan.
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Richard Dolan returns to That UFO Podcast for a deep dive into the biggest developments in the UFO/UAP conversation right now.
In Part 1, we focus on the latest UFO file releases, the ongoing push for transparency, David Grusch's recent comments, and whether what we're witnessing is actually disclosure—or something very different.
Richard shares his thoughts on the apparent battle between transparency and secrecy factions, why he believes many people have become caught up in "disclosure mania," and what historical government records reveal about recurring UFO waves and patterns stretching back decades.
We also discuss:
The latest war.gov/UFO file releases David Grusch and whistleblower protections Whether disclosure is really happening Historical UFO cycles and patterns The 1948 documents and recurring waves The difference between disclosure and contact Alien behaviour and what the phenomenon appears to be doing AI and its impact on humanity's future Why Richard rejects predictions of imminent disclosure events Chris Bledsoe, Lue Elizondo and "something is coming" narratives The current state of the UFO conversation in 2026This is Part 1 of a special extended conversation with Richard Dolan.
Part 2 will focus on USOs, underwater mysteries, the darker aspects of the phenomenon, humanity's future, and Richard's latest research.
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Andy joins the Doomer Friday crew for a wide-ranging collaboration with UAP Gerb, Rob Jones and others, breaking down the latest David Grusch Capitol Hill press conference, the push to waive NDAs for UAP whistleblowers, and why protections, amnesty and accountability may be key to moving disclosure forward.
The conversation also covers Representative Burlison’s approach, legacy crash retrieval claims, private contractors, AARO, whistleblower retaliation, and a surprise drop-in from Dylan Borland, who speaks directly about protecting witnesses and holding agencies, government and private industry accountable.
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Breaking news: War.gov/UFO has released its third batch of UAP files, videos and NASA audio but does Release 3.0 actually move the conversation forward?
Andy breaks down the new drop, including six newly released videos, several NASA audio files, and a batch of FBI, CIA, Department of War and AARO-linked documents. The headline themes this time are orbs, “plasma” sphere reports, digital recreations, and a notable Cheyenne Mountain/Fort Carson case involving a strange white, oval object witnessed by a former Army intelligence officer and others.
But after the expectations set by Capitol Hill, David Grusch, the UAP Caucus and recent whistleblower momentum, this release raises a bigger question: is this transparency, or managed disappointment?
A rapid reaction to Release 3.0, what stands out, what doesn’t, and why this may tell us where the official UFO file drops are really heading.
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Andy is joined by investigative filmmaker and journalist Jeremy Corbell for a wide-ranging conversation on the latest UAP developments, government video releases, whistleblowers, Congress, David Grusch, Sleeping Dog, and what may still be hidden from the public.
Jeremy discusses the recent UAP video drops, why he says the footage released so far is only a fraction of what exists, how he and George Knapp have helped point Congress toward specific files, and why he believes the public has still not seen the strongest evidence.
They also get into the whistleblower process, the pressure faced by those coming forward, Matthew Brown, Dylan Borland, Vanguard, Capitol Hill, media coverage, and why Corbell believes public pressure remains vital to moving this issue forward.
A serious and at times intense conversation about UAP transparency, accountability, and the fight to get
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Andy gives his immediate post-press conference thoughts following David Grusch, members of Congress, Leslie Kean and others speaking on the steps of Capitol Hill.
This episode covers the key moments from the event, including calls for whistleblower protections, pressure on President Trump to waive NDAs, renewed talk of non-human biologics, and Grusch’s striking comments about a spectrum of life ranging from corporeal bipedal beings to “sentient plasmoid life.” Andy also looks at the mixed reaction to the event, the role of mainstream media, what this could mean for future disclosure efforts, and where things may go next.
Plus, Andy shares thoughts on upcoming interviews with Jeremy Corbell and Richard Dolan, the wider media landscape, and why this moment may be more important than it first appeared.
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Andy joins the Doomer Friday crew for a live watchalong and reaction to David Grusch’s highly anticipated Capitol Hill press conference.
The panel follows the event in real time as James Fox, Anna Paulina Luna, Eric Burlison, Tim Burchett, Jared Moskowitz, Leslie Kean and David Grusch call for disclosure, whistleblower protections, NDA waivers and greater transparency around UAP records.
The discussion covers Grusch’s strongest new comments, including claims around crash retrieval material, non-human biologics, foreign intelligence on UAP programs, “sentient plasmoid life,” and the pressure now being placed on President Trump and the White House to act.
A raw, lively and immediate reaction to what may prove to be another major step in the modern disclosure push.
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This is the full spoiler review of Steven Spielberg’s Disclosure Day.
After seeing the movie at the BFI IMAX in London, I break down the story, the big reveals, the private contractor cover-up, the experiencer angle, the leaked UFO files, the ending, and the controversial alien reveal.
I also answer listener questions and talk through what worked, what surprised me, what I think may divide audiences, and where Disclosure Day now sits among my favourite UFO movies.
Warning: this episode contains major spoilers for Disclosure Day from the start.
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Steven Spielberg returns to the world of UFOs with Disclosure Day, and I was lucky enough to see it early at the BFI IMAX in London.
In this non-spoiler review, I give my first reaction to the film, how it handles the UFO topic, whether it feels connected to the current disclosure conversation, the performances, the tone, and whether people unfamiliar with the subject may come away seeing UFOs differently.
No major plot spoilers here just my honest reaction, what worked, what surprised me, and why I think this is a film people in and around this topic will definitely want to see.
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Andy presents a special Skinwalker Ranch omnibus, bringing together interviews from the That UFO Podcast archive recorded between June 2020 and 2022. Featuring conversations with Thomas Winterton, Dragon, Travis Taylor, Brandon Fugal and more, this collection explores the people, stories, science and mystery behind one of the most famous paranormal hotspots in the world.
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Director Dean Alioto joins me to discuss his new documentary, The Experiencers: Full Disclosure.
Dean is best known to many in the UFO world for The McPherson Tape and Alien Abduction: Incident in Lake County, two cult projects that blurred the line between fiction, found footage and UFO folklore.
In this conversation, we get into why he turned his attention to experiencers and abduction accounts, the challenge of handling such a divisive part of the topic, Betty and Barney Hill, Travis Walton, Terry Lovelace, hybrid claims, hypnosis, evidence, high strangeness and why Dean believes abductions may be the real elephant in the room.
A fascinating discussion on one of the most controversial areas of the UFO subject.
The Experiencers: Full Disclosure is available now.
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Jay Stratton, former head of the UAP Task Force and one of the most senior U.S. officials connected to modern UFO investigations, has confirmed his long-awaited memoir Out of the Shadows: Revealing the Truth About Non-Human Intelligent Life.
In this episode, I break down what we know so far about the book, why the wording around “non-human intelligent life” matters, Stratton’s background in government and intelligence, the potential significance of DOPSR review, and how this release fits into the wider momentum around UAP disclosure, David Grusch, upcoming Capitol Hill events, Disclosure Day, and the current wave of UFO media attention.
I also look at the big questions this book may raise around Lue Elizondo, AAWSAP, AATIP, the UAP Task Force, legacy programmes, and whether Stratton’s account could become one of the most important insider UFO books yet.
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In this UFO news update, I break down a packed few days in the disclosure world.
Dylan Borland and Matthew Brown have announced a new whistleblower fund, raising fresh questions about how people coming forward are being supported, and where previous funds have actually gone.
Congressman Eric Burlison is continuing to push the private contractor angle, targeting organisations like MITRE, RAND and MIT Lincoln Labs, as the search for UAP records moves beyond the Pentagon and into the grey area between government and private industry.
We also look at Lauren Boebert’s latest comments on classified briefings, biological beings, portals and the supernatural, plus the New York Times covering the growing conversation around UFOs, religion, demons and how disclosure may be interpreted by different communities.
And finally, I cover notes from Lue Elizondo’s Persona Non Grata event in Texas, including Burlison’s comments on amnesty, deep underground military bases, Jake Barber, Michael Herrera and the upcoming June 9 Capitol Hill event with David Grusch and members of Congress.
June could be a huge month for the UFO topic. Is this disclosure gaining momentum, or getting even stranger?
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Andy is back with a live UFO news update, digging into a chaotic few days for UAP disclosure.
This episode covers the breaking announcement of a June 9th Capitol Hill event featuring David Grusch, James Fox, Leslie Kean and members of Congress, calling for specific UAP files to be declassified. Andy also reacts to the controversial White House “alien” social media posts, the backlash from the UFO community, and whether the topic is being pushed forward or dragged back into ridicule.
Also discussed: Brett Feddersen’s recent comments on UAP and national security, the latest on the Buga Sphere controversy, Falcon Space’s hoax findings, Spielberg’s upcoming Disclosure Day movie, reverse-engineering claims, breakaway civilisation theories, and listener thoughts from the live chat.
A busy one, with disclosure momentum, political missteps, movie hype, and plenty of UFO community drama all colliding at once.
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Professor Kevin Knuth returns to discuss the recent US government UFO file releases, what they do and do not tell us, and why the missing metadata matters so much.
We get into the new videos, reverse engineering claims, non-human intelligence, crash retrievals, possible hybridisation, and what a truly serious scientific UAP data release would actually look like.
A grounded but fascinating conversation with one of the few scientists publicly approaching the UFO topic through data, physics and serious analysis.
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