Afleveringen
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We finally figured out how to stream to both Facebook AND Instagram!!
Thank you to everyone who joined live for this podcast recording.
I (Joel) think we got to answer 13-15 questions, which is impressive for us in a one hour segment. Hopefully we'll get to do these weekly moving forward.
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Enneagram Bootcamp 2026: Generational Enneagram
lifeinthetrinityministry.com
The coolest thing about Enneagram Bootcamp is seeing the bonds and relationships that build each year. We hope you'll be a part of this upcoming opportunity July 30 - Aug 1.
As you heard in the intro, stay hard David Black. A good dude, who lived a good life. Everyone who knew him will miss him. Joe and Suzanne will miss him. LTM will miss him.
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We are a little bummed that nobody mentioned Safety Dance in this conversation!
That being said, this is a great conversation about dancing and ritual, the enneagram and our relationship with our bodies. This is Rachel's first time on the show, and Courtney is an Enneagram Journey veteran, and it probably isn't their last time sharing with our listeners.
We have a few clips of songs sprinkled throughout the show, and hope you enjoy all of them (or at least a couple!).
And don't forget to jump on over to lifeinthetrinityministry.com to see where Suzanne is teaching next and other opportunities with LTM and The Enneagram Journey!
Music in this episode
Pink Pony Club by Chappell RoanShine by Michael Franti & SpearheadOne Day / Reckoning Song by Asaf Avidan & The MojosCould I have This Dance by Anne MurrayMy Joy Is Heavy by The BengsonsThe Molly B. Polka Party -
Zijn er afleveringen die ontbreken?
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Two of the podcast's favorite people join Suzanne and Joe at her favorite bookstore to do what she loves the most: talk relationships and enneagram!
The listeners are probably familiar with Hunter from all of his work with LTM, and now you get to meet his soon to be husband, Bradley Hickman. We get to hear what works and what struggles 9s and 2s have together.
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LTM has a new home, and we're working on updating a new and improved website. We have events coming up in Minnesota, California, Texas, and Massachusetts. The 2027 Cohort applications open May 1, and summer small groups are around the corner.
visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to join in the community!
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Meet the eldest of Suzanne's 9 grandchildren!
William Alexander Schewee IV, enneagram 4, joins the show with his uncle and a couple of grandparents, including of course, the Enneagram Godmother.
You'll learn about "Bros' Nights", the differences and similarities between fours and sevens, our different ways of connection including: how do you respond to people singing happy birthday to you?!
And remember, hope will not leave you disappointed!
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Joey Stabile Schewee's new book, "When Working Together Doesn't Work" is now available everywhere books are sold! Grab your copy and show her some love with a review and rating.The Enneagram AND...marches on. Next up is Colorado Springs with the great KJ Ramsey and The Enneagram AND Trauma. Get your tickets to join in person or online by visiting lifeinthetrinityministry.com/enneagramand -
Join us in escorting The Micah Center on to the next plain.
Suzanne, Joe, and Hunter sit down for one final conversation at The Micah Center, the home of LTM for the past 20 years.
As you'll hear in the intro, this episode is heavy on the "Journey" aspect of the podcast and light on any "enneagram" talk. Suzanne and Joe always are quick to say that the enneagram is just a tool. A GREAT tool, but just one. The Micah Center was so much more than a tool. It became a safe space for thousands of people to go to.
Stay hard Micah Center!
If The Micah Center means something to you, or had an impact on your life, we would love to hear about it. CLICK HERE to leave a voicemail sharing some Micah Center love or memories.
Ready to join the Enneagram AND tour 2026?! The first event is at the end of January, and we're continuing on into the summer.
The Enneagram AND Parenting
The Enneagram AND Spirituality
The Enneagram AND Truama
The Enneagram AND Your Body
The Enneagram AND Stress
Join live or join us virtually online for great teaching with a great group of teachers.
CLICK HERE TO JOIN THE ENNEAGRAM AND TOUR 2026 OR LEARN MORE
The Merton Prayer:
My Lord God, I have no idea where I am goingI do not see the road ahead of meI cannot know for certain where it will endNor do I really know myselfAnd the fact that I think I am following your will does not meanThat I am actually doing soBut I believe that the desire to please you does in fact please youAnd I hope I have that desire in all that I am doingI hope that I will never do anything apart from that desireAnd I know that if I do this you will lead me by the right roadThough I may know nothing about itTherefore will I trust you always thoughI may seem to be lost and in the shadow of deathI will not fear, for you are ever with meAnd you will never leave me to face my perils aloneToday's Intro:
From the original Enneagram Journey Curriculum"Tha Crossroads" by Bone Thugs-N-Harmony (Ruthless)(outro) "I wouldn't take nothin' for my journey", Live at Studio C (Gaither Studios) -
The Enneagram Journey may be recording next at your local Hilton! Maybe not, but this episode was fun to record at Joel's hotel room when LTM travelled to Charlotte, NC for a workshop. Kim Honeycutt (8) and Larissa Miller (4) join the show to talk about their relationship, their journey, justice, and what do you know about polyvagal theory?
You can find out more about what Kim and Larissa are up to at icutalks.org, watershedcharlotte.com and kimhoneycutt.com
PLUG TIME!!!!
The Enneagram AND 2026 Tour is around the corner!
The Enneagram and Parenting in Nashville, TN - The Enneagram and Spirituality in Jackson, MS - The Enneagram and Trauma in Colorado Springs, CO - The Enneagram and Your Body in Minneapolis, MN - The Enneagram and Stress in California.
Join us in person, or join us online virtually!
Get all of the important information and registration at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/enneagramand
Today's Intro:
The Waterboy (1998, Touchstone Pictures)Bob's Burgers (s15, e1 FOX)Breaking Bad (s4, e6 AMC) -
Meet author and Enneagram 5, Jess Everlee!
4 books, one for the Head, one for the Heart, and one for the Body, and how about one featuring a couple of Sixes!
Jess shares about figuring out her enneagram number, which ones are the easiest and most difficult for her to write, and about being married to an 8.
"I mistyped my own teen angst as a 4. But, since it was a mistype, it wasn't useful." - JE
All romance lovers need to check out her Lucky Lovers of London series, and you can learn more about Jess at jesseverlee.com
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LTM's very own Joey Stabile Schewee is back on The Journey!
Gather everyone around the water cooler in the office and turn up the volume, because you and your team don't want to miss this episode. Joey, enneagram 8, the best enneagram teacher you'll find for the corporate setting shares with the listeners about her work.
Which number mistypes the most?Which number is mistyped as the most?Who has the greatest difficulty managing others?What do you know about the 4th Step?Her new book, When Working Together Doesn't Work, comes out in March, but it isn't too early to pre-order. You can pre-order your copy here. It also isn't too late to join us on Saturday, September 27th online or in Dallas to hear Joey teach! Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to learn more and sign up. And visit wesolutions.life to learn more about Joey and her corporate enneagram teaching.
TODAY'S INTRO
Corporate (S1, E3 - Comedy Central)Office Space (1999, Mike Judge)Corporate (S2, E4 - Comedy Central) -
Dr. Molly sayyyyyyyyys, you're gonna love this podcast!
Welcome Dr. Molly Brinkmann to The Journey! Enneagram 8, married to an enneagram 6 (Ryan), mother, veterinarian, and social media bad ass. We get a good amount of work talk in, co-parenting as an 8 and a 6, the anxiety of not only sixes, but all numbers, and more. Also a special spot appearance from fellow 8, Joey Schewee.
To learn more about Molly, be sure and give her instagram account a follow, @drmollysays and check out The Dr. Molly Says Podcast!
It is time to hear from Enneagram 8 listeners for a new episode of Others On The Journey! Suzanne and Molly talk about what betrayal means to them and to Eights. We would like to hear from our Enneagram 8 listeners on what betrayal means to you, and if you can give some examples. Visit theenneagramjourney.com/contact and leave a voicemail with your response for our next Others On The Journey podcast episode. Heck, this podcast is solitary work that we cannot do alone!
PLUG TIME
When Working Together Doesn't Work with Joey Schewee
Saturday, September 27 / 9:00 am - 4:00 pm
The Micah Center in Dallas or join Online
Join consultant and Enneagram Theorist, Joey Schewee of @enneagramparents, and co-facilitator of The Enneagram For The Modern World Cohort, ahead of the release of her book, When Working Together Doesn't Work: An Enneagram Guide to Productive Relationships with Coworkers, for a day of Enneagram exploration. Joey will guide participants through her impactful take on triads, stances, and the core of her unique body of work: processing centers. Whether you are new to the Enneagram or well-versed in this wisdom, this workshop is thoughtfully designed to give all participants takeaways that are immediately and exponentially applicable.
CLICK HERE TO REGISTER IN PERSON OR ONLINE
Pre-order your copy of When Working Together Doesn't Work here on Amazon
TODAY'S INTRO
Anxiety by DoechiiMean Girls (Paramount Pictures, 2004)Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby (Columbia Pictures, 2006) -
Welcome to The Journey Austin Channing Brown!
Enneagram 9, Austin Channing shares some of her wisdom and experience in this episode, including what we think is a CRAZY story about her time as an enneagram 9 employed at a church.
Decision MakingPassive Aggressive AngerRepressed DoingForeboding Joy and Artificial Joy (brace yourselves 7s!)I'm Still Here and Full Of MyselfFull Of Myself is available soon, so preorder today, and be sure to visit austinchanning.com !
Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com to see everything that Suzanne, Joe, and LTM are up to.
The LTM Enneagram Cohort Program application deadline is September 1!Small groups are about to begin, and the next round will start in December 2026Enneagram and Spirituality in Charlotte in SeptemberA Quiet Space every Thursday at The Micah Centerand so much more!Today's Intro
Joy by for King + CountryThe Office (NBC, s2, e8)The Office (NBC, s7, e14) -
Q&A Episode in the house!
We start the show with a question from an Enneagram 7 married to an Enneagram 1 (that combo comes up a lot!).
"Do I have to keep apologizing for the last 20 years every time I mess up?"
Then we get to talk about:
9s with an 8 wing, or are they extroverted, or are they another number?!Gut TypesHow each individual number in each Triad deals with Anger, Fear, or ShameEssence v Personality9s and Angerand more!Keep the questions coming! You can submit yours at theenneagramjourney.org/contact
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Visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com !
Yup, that's the plug. So much upcoming opportunities, from A Quiet Space every Thursday at The Micah Center, to 2025 Enneagram Bootcamp, to IEA Experience 2025, to new books and new small groups. We want you to be a part of it. So, visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com and be a part of a wonderful community!
TODAY'S INTRO
Captain Phillips (2013, Columbia Pictures)Ron Swanson (Parks and Rec, s3, e9)Angry Woman (Ashe, 2022) -
Live shows in bookstores...we wish every episode could be recorded this way!
Today's episode is almost like 3 episodes rolled into one. We get to meet Arlene Kasselman (enneagram 7), founder of 7&1 Books. Then we get to hear from Jen Rogers (enneagram 8) and learn from her experiences in life, and then chase all of that with some Q&A with the audience.
Find 7&1 books and learn more about them by visiting sevenandonebooks.com
“If you haven’t done enneagram work, it’s hard to see value in people that see the world different than you do.” - Jen Rogers
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
Spirituality and the Enneagram
ICU Talks in Charlotte, NC
September 5-6, 2025
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/charlotte
Book Release Party for Letting Go, Finding YouThe Micah Center in Dallas, TX
August 29, 2025
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/store/p/bookparty
TODAY's INTRO
40 Year Old Virgin (2005, Universal Pictures)Black Books (s1, e1: Channel 4)Pierre Novellie (Chris Ramsey's Stand Up Central)The Dragon Slayer Archetype (Europos) -
Let's do some math.
2 + 2 - 7 = a great episode of The Enneagram Journey!
Enneagram 2, Jen Hanson, joins fellow 2, Suzanne Stabile on today's show, but we lost our 7 Joel for this one. Don't like the episode too much, it'll hurt his feelings.
Can you have an enneagram conversation between a couple of Twos without talking about boundaries?The strengths of being a Two and working with children and youth.Parenting with the struggles of social media.Should one of Suzanne's spiritual practices be getting massages regularly?!aaaaaaaand more"How would we measure our value in relationships if it didn't involve our responding to every Feeling with Doing?" - SS
You can find out more about Jen and all of the good going on at Northaven by visiting www.northaven.org
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas (Registration closes May 30!)
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
Spirituality and the EnneagramICU Talks in Charlotte, NC
September 5-6, 2025
REGISTRATION WILL BE UP SOON!
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
lifeinthetrinityministry.com
theenneagramjourney.com
suzannestabile.com
TODAY'S INTRO
Between 2 Ferns (2019, Netflix)Pretty Woman (1990, Touchstone Pictures)Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius (2001, Paramount) -
Russ Hudson is back on the show, and is going to blow your mind!
The show starts with a little catching up, so we get to hear about some of Russ' travels, and we look forward to IEA Experience 2025 that features both Russ and Suzanne!
How has the Enneagram, or our understanding of the enneagram, evolved over the years?Russ shares their 3 rules he and Don had when writing The Wisdom of The EnneagramWe're not just talking about the 3 Centers of Intelligence today, but also the 3 Body CentersHoly Ideas, enneagram and creativity, and more"You can't get to the Holy Ideas if you don't get landed in your body and heart."
- RH
To learn more about everything Russ has going on, visit russhudson.com !
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
lifeinthetrinityministry.com
theenneagramjourney.com
suzannestabile.com
TODAY'S INTRO
"Yakko's World" (Animaniacs, ep 2 - Warner Bros.)Jerry Seinfeld while being interviewed on the red carpet by WUSA 9 -
Meet Tori Hastings, enneagram 5!
As promised, we are definitely not going to talk about golf, and we are going to talk about somatic therapy, what we do when we get home from our day, what Tori's life looked like over the past 30 years in Alabama, and did Suzanne make a revision to the Centers of Intelligence?
"You don't achieve balance by pushing the top (center of intelligence) down. You achieve balance by pulling the bottom up." - SS
"I don't do much of anything in real time..." - TH
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
lifeinthetrinityministry.com
theenneagramjourney.com
suzannestabile.com
TODAY'S INTRO
South Park (Comedy Central: s14, e2)SNL (NBC: s23, e11)SNL (NBC: s17, e7) -
Get your pen and paper ready, because this episode is FULL of incredible enneagram teaching from not one BUT TWO! enneagram teachers (and neither are Joel).
Katie Whitlock (3), yes, the daughter of The Enneagram Journey's own Sara Whitlock (2), joins Suzanne in this episode. Seriously, so much good wisdom in this one
Escaping to the futureWhat do you do when you're restless?BalanceDoing Enneagram work, but identifying as the wrong numberDo you respond to strangers online?Some input from Joey Schewee aka @enneagramparentsand more!"Functional is not good enough. You should want more than functional." - KW
PLUG TIME
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp
"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker Series
Enneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global Conference
IEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
THE 2026 LTM COHORT PROGRAM
Apply today! Apply tomorrow! Apply anytime before September! Just don't miss out on the possibility of being a part of an incredible community of people growing and increasing compassion in the world.
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
So many good resources, tools, and opportunities can be found at:
lifeinthetrinityministry.com
theenneagramjourney.com
suzannestabile.com
TODAY'S INTRO
The Departed (2006 Warner Bros.)Laura Addis on TEJ PodcastF.R.I.E.N.D.S (NBC, s3 e18) -
Alex and Darnell are back to share their final thoughts and feelings about their experience in the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne!
If this series of conversations with Darnell and Alex has raised your interest in the LTM Cohort program, we hope you will check it out and apply. Applications for the following year's Cohort program are accepted April 1 - September 1. You can get the dates, descriptions, expectations, and application at lifeinthetrinityministry.com/cohortprogram
Other Plugs
2025 Enneagram Bootcamp"What Is Mine To Do?"
August 7-9, 2025 in Dallas or join Online
lifeinthetrinityministry.com/2025ebc
The King Speaker SeriesEnneagram Stances
June 6-7, 2025 in Fort Smith, Arkansas
1pres.org/kingspeaker
IEA Global ConferenceIEA Enneagram Experience 2025
July 24-27 in Minneapolis, MN
ieaexperience.com
You can find out what the podcast is up to and other offerings from Life in the Trinity Ministry by visiting lifeinthetrinityministry.com.
TODAY'S INTRO
Des Bishop - MindfulnessF.R.I.E.N.D.S. (NBC, S4 E23)"Indignant" - The Definition ChannelDarnell Young on TEJ Podcast -
You've asked for more Enneagram Twos on the show, and here is a great start! Meet Sara Whitlock. Sara is a nurse practitioner from Ohio. Married to JD, an Enneagram 5, she and one of her daughters were both a part of the 2024 Enneagram Cohort with Suzanne (we'll get to hear from her daughter Katie in an upcoming episode!).
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Great events coming up:
TheoEd Talks Nashville - February 23 in Nashville at Woolworth Theatre or OnlineThe Enneagram Journey Live - February 25 in Nashville at Beam GalleryA Contemplative, Healing, Enneagram - February 28 and March 1 in Nashville at Woodmont Christian ChurchRelationships and the Enneagram - March 7-8 in South Carolina at Bethel UMC2025 IEA Global Conference - July 25-25 in Minneapolis2025 Enneagram Bootcamp - SAVE THE DATE! August 7-9 in Dallas and OnlineToday's Intro
The Breakup (2006, Universal Pictures)Scrubs (S3, E5)American Dad (S10, E8) -
Happy 2025 to everyone on their Enneagram Journey! And even to those who haven't started yet. The first episode of the year is fantastic and features pastor, spiritual director, and author Laura Murray, Enneagram 4.
Laura is married to an Enneagram 5The difference between Home and where you belongSome surprising Enneagram Wing discussion with SuzanneSpiritual PracticesParenting and moreBelow you will find the practice of Examen that Laura shared with us. You can also find a link for it in PDF format at theenneagramjourney.com in her episode. You can find out more about Laura and all the great things she is doing at laurabmurray.com.
In the introduction of this episode, you heard a lot of plugs!
TheoEd Nashville - Sunday, February 23 - theoed.com/nashvilleA Contemplative, Healing, Enneagram - February 28, March 1 in Nashville - lifeinthetrinityministry.com/nashvilleEnneaSummit 2025 featuring Suzanne and the Reverend - February 4-7 Online - CLICK HERE for information and registrationRelationships and the Enneagram - March 7-8, Charleston, South Carolina - lifeinthetrinityministry.com/charlestonExamen: A Spiritual Practice
The spiritual practice of examen is one of invitation. You are opening yourself up to both yourself and God. There is not a grade in examen, nor is there a grade in any other spiritual practice. Various questions can be helpful in the examen practice. Below is one way of practicing examen.
The hopes are awareness and attendingThe practice requires permission and welcome
• The practice begins with permission. In examen, you give God permission to show you parts of yourself that are hidden or harder to see. You also welcome and allow parts of yourself to be seen by God and yourself.
• This is done by reflecting on and responding to a series of questions. As you do this awareness of those parts of you starts to emerge.
• Then, you permit God again to attend to what came up. Your work here is towelcome what you can and allow God to attend to you.
• Repeat daily for 7-10 days, giving yourself time to notice and explore what you see.
Examen Questions:What do I find myself grateful for today?
What am I grieving today?
Where do I sense God’s nearness to my grief?
Where do I sense God’s distance from my grief?
How has God been generous with me lately?
How is God calling me to be generous today?
Prayer:After responding to these questions, allow God to attend to you through yourresponses and what is coming up in you. Tell God thank you after a few minutes or however long you need.
visit laurabmurray.com to learn more!
TODAY's INTRO
Baby Come Back, Player (RSO, 1977)John Wick (Summit Entertainment, 2014)Without Me, Eminem (Shady-Aftermath, 2002)Home, Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros (Rough Trade, 2010)The Sandlot (20th Century Fox, 1993) -
Your Enneagram Godmother and an Enneagram Guncle got together for this INCREDIBLE conversation!
If you don't know Jonathan yet, Enneagram 3, this is a wonderful introduction.
"...othering the other that othered them."
It'll make more sense after you hear him talk about it!
Jonathan is a writer on faith and culture, the author of Learning To Speak God From Scratch, Jesus is Better Than You Imagined, My Guncle and Me and a few other great reads. You can find him on Instagram @jonathan_merritt and online at jonathanmerritt.com
PLUG TIME!
OOOOOHHHHHH, don't let this event sell out without you being a part of it:
A Contemplative, Healing, Enneagram with Rev. Joseph and Suzanne Stabile, and Hunter Mobley.
February 28 - March 1, 2025 in Nashville, TN
CLICK HERE FOR TICKETS or visit lifeinthetrinityministry.com/nashville
Today's INTRO
The Office (S3, E1)Modern Family (S4, E21)The Other Guys (Columbia Pictures 2010) - Laat meer zien
