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The most consequential and revealing exchange during the vice-presidential debate on Tuesday came toward the end, when JD Vance was asked whether he would seek to challenge this yearâs election results. That one moment proved that he canât be trusted with the office he seeks.
But the 85 minutes preceding that moment had a lot of interesting policy discussion, so we couldnât resist talking about that, too.
This episode contains strong language.
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You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by our senior editor, Claire Gordon. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Mixing by Isaac Jones, with Aman Sahota. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld. The showâs production team also includes Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
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In a couple weeks, the archives of our show will only be available to subscribers. Hereâs why thatâs happening and what to expect.
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Iâve been fascinated by the problem Donald Trump faces with Project 2025. Trump has been caught in an awkward position, disavowing the document itself, but unable to fully disavow the people behind it. So I wanted to do an episode not just on Trump, but on the unwieldy coalition that has formed around him â what is sometimes referred to as the âNew Right.â
Emily Jashinsky is the D.C. correspondent and host of âUndercurrentsâ for UnHerd, a co-host of âCounter Pointsâ with Ryan Grim, and a former editor at The Federalist, one of the most influential sites among conservatives today. Sheâs described herself as someone with âa foot in both campsâ of the âOld Rightâ and the âNew Right.â So I thought sheâd be a great guide to understanding how the conservative movement has changed.
In this conversation, we discuss the key differences between the Old Right and the New Right; what the New Right wants; why New Right thinkers are so interested in the concepts of âmodernityâ and âvirtueâ; and what influence the New Right might have in a second Trump administration.
Mentioned:
The Virtue of Nationalism by Yoram Hazony
Book Recommendations:
Primal Screams by Mary Eberstadt
The Devilâs Chessboard by David Talbot
The Screwtape Letters by C. S. Lewis
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Elias Isquith. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Isaac Jones and Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Efim Shapiro.
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America has become increasingly polarized when it comes to trust. Voters who distrust the system â who see institutions as corrupt and are prone to conspiracy theories â have long existed on the far left and far right. But Donald Trump seems to have sparked a realignment, what the writer Matthew Yglesias calls âthe crank realignment.â The G.O.P. is now the political home of the distrustful, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.âs Trump endorsement was a clear sign of these changing times.
In 2020, Pete Buttigieg wrote a book on trust in politics. And heâs been persistent in making the case â in speeches, on TV â for what he calls âa better kind of politics.â So I wanted to talk to him about his theory of politics. Why does he think so many Americans have lost trust in the government? What responsibility does the Democratic Party have here? And how does he believe trust can be restored?
Note: I invited Buttigieg on the show in his personal capacity so we could discuss his thoughts on the election without violating the Hatch Act, which prohibits members of the government from campaigning in their official guise. This also means I wasn't able to ask Buttigieg many questions about his work as transportation secretary. But I think we still had a pretty fascinating conversation.
Book Recommendations:
Morning and Evening by Jon Fosse
The Future Is History by Masha Gessen
Mr. Churchill in the White House by Robert Schmuhl
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Rollin Hu. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Annie Galvin, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Jonah Kessel, Elliot DeBruyn and Selcuk Karaoglan.
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Itâs been almost a year since Oct. 7. More than 40,000 Palestinians in Gaza are dead. The hostages are not all home, and it doesnât look like there will be a cease-fire deal that brings them home anytime soon. Israeli politics is deeply divided, and the countryâs international reputation is in tatters. The Palestinian Authority is weak. A war may break out in Lebanon soon. There is no vision for the day after and no theory of what comes next.
So I wanted to talk to David Remnick, the editor of The New Yorker. Remnick has been reporting from Israel for decades and has a deep familiarity and history with both the region and the politics and the people who are driving it. He first profiled Benjamin Netanyahu back in 1998. In 2013, he profiled Naftali Bennett, the politician leading Netanyahu in polls of who Israelis think is best suited to be prime minister. And he recently profiled Yahya Sinwar, the head of Hamas in Gaza.
In this conversation, we talk about what Remnick learned profiling Netanyahu, Bennett and Sinwar, as well as where Israelâs overlapping conflicts with Hamas, the Palestinian Authority, Hezbollah and Iran sit after nearly a year of war. Remnick and I were both recently in Israel and the West Bank, as well as near Israelâs border with Lebanon, and we discuss our impressions from those trips.
Mentioned:
âNotes from Undergroundâ by David Remnick
âThe Party Faithfulâ by David Remnick
âThe Outsiderâ by David Remnick
The Bibi Files
Book Recommendations:
Hope Against Hope by Nadezhda Mandelstam
These Truths by Jill Lepore
Cosmopolitanism by Kwame Anthony Appiah
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Elias Isquith. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota and Isaac Jones. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
Soon, youâll need a subscription to maintain access to this show's back catalogue, and the back catalogues of other New York Times podcasts, on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Donât miss out on exploring all of our shows, featuring everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts.
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I stumbled on a Zadie Smith line recently that stopped me in my tracks. She was writing in January 2017, and describing the political stakes of that period â Brexit in the U.K., Trump in the U.S. â and the way you could feel it changing people.
âMillions of more or less amorphous selves will now necessarily find themselves solidifying into protesters, activists, marchers, voters, firebrands, impeachers, lobbyists, soldiers, champions, defenders, historians, experts, critics. You canât fight fire with air. But equally you canât fight for a freedom youâve forgotten how to identify.â
What Smith is describing felt so familiar â how politics can sometimes feel like it demands we put aside our internal conflict, our uncertainty, so we can take a strong position. I see it so often in myself and people around me, and yet I rarely hear it talked about. And Smithâs ability to give language to these kinds of quiet battles inside of ourselves is one reason sheâs been one of my favorite writers for years.
Smith is the author of novels, including âWhite Teeth,â âOn Beautyâ and âNW,â as well as many essays and short stories. Her latest novel, âThe Fraud,â also deals with politics and identity. Itâs about a case in 19th-century London, but it has eerie resonances with our current political moment. I wasnât surprised to learn that Trump and populism were front of mind for her when she wrote it. In this conversation, we discuss what populism is really channeling, why Smith refuses the âbaitâ of wokeness, how people have been âmodifiedâ by smartphones and social media, and more.
This episode contains strong language.
Mentioned:
Feel Free by Zadie Smith
âFascinated to Presume: In Defense of Fictionâ by Zadie Smith
Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman
âGeneration Why?â by Zadie Smith
Book Recommendations:
The Director by Daniel Kehlmann
The Rebelâs Clinic by Adam Shatz
The Diaries of Virginia Woolf
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Annie Galvin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota and Efim Shapiro. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
Soon, youâll need a subscription to maintain access to this show's back catalogue, and the back catalogues of other New York Times podcasts, on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Donât miss out on exploring all of our shows, featuring everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts.
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Republicans want to label Kamala Harris as the border czar. And by just looking at a chart, you can see why. Border crossings were low when Donald Trump left office. But when President Biden is in the White House, they start shooting up and up â to numbers this country had never seen before, peaking in December 2023. Those numbers have fallen significantly since Biden issued tough new border policies. But that has still left Harris with a major vulnerability. Why didnât the administration do more sooner? And why did border crossings skyrocket in the first place?
Harris was not the border czar; she had little power over policy. But to the extent that there is a border czar, itâs the secretary of homeland security, Alejandro Mayorkas. So I wanted to have him on the show to explain whatâs happened at the border the past few years â the record surge, the administrationâs record and what it has revealed about our immigration system.
Book Recommendations:
The Nickel Boys by Colson Whitehead
String Theory by David Foster Wallace
The Dictionary
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Rollin Hu. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Annie Galvin, Elias Isquith, Kristin Lin and Aman Sahota. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. And special thanks to Ariel G. Ruiz Soto, Dara Lind, David Frum, Jason De LĂ©on, Michael Clemens, Natan Last and Steven Camarota.
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Tuesday night was the first â perhaps the only â debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. And it proved one of Harrisâs stump speech lines right: Turns out she really does know Trumpâs type. She had a theory of who Trump was and how he worked, and she used it to take control of the collision. But this was a substantive debate, too. The candidates clashed on abortion, health care, the economy, energy, immigration and more. And so we delve into the policy arguments to untangle what was really being said â and what wasnât.
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Claire Gordon. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Jack McCordick. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith, Kristin Lin and Aman Sahota. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
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Our Times Opinion colleagues recently launched a new podcast called âThe Opinions.â Itâs basically the Opinion page in audio form, so you can hear your favorite Times Opinion columnists and contributing writers in one place, in their own voices.
Itâs an eclectic and surprising mix of perspectives, as youâll see with these two segments weâve selected for you to enjoy. The first is with the Times Opinion columnist (and friend of the pod) David French, a lifelong conservative whoâs staunchly pro-life, on why heâs voting for Kamala Harris this November, and the second is with the novelist Curtis Sittenfeld, who enters into a writing competition of sorts against a new writer on the block â ChatGPT.
Mentioned:
âDavid French on the Pro-Life Case for Kamala Harrisâ
âCan You Tell Which Short Story ChatGPT Wrote?â
You can subscribe to âThe Opinionsâ on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, YouTube, iHeartRadio â or wherever you listen to podcasts.
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I feel that thereâs something important missing in our debate over screen time and kids â and even screen time and adults. In the realm of kids and teenagers, thereâs so much focus on what studies show or donât show: How does screen time affect school grades and behavior? Does it carry an increased risk of anxiety or depression?
And while the debate over those questions rages on, a feeling has kept nagging me. What if the problem with screen time isnât something we can measure?
In June, Jia Tolentino published a great piece in The New Yorker about the blockbuster childrenâs YouTube channel CoComelon, which seemed as if it was wrestling with the same question. So I invited her on the show, and our conversation ended up going places I never expected. Among other things, we talk about how the decision to have kids relates to doing psychedelics, what kinds of pleasure to seek if you want a good life and how much the debate over screen time and kids might just be adults projecting our own discomfort with our own screen time.
We recorded this episode a few days before the Trump-Biden debate â and before Donald Trump chose JD Vance as his running mate. We then got so swept up in politics coverage we never got a chance to air it. But I am so excited to finally get this one out into the world.
This episode contains strong language.
Mentioned:
âHow CoComelon Captures Our Childrenâs Attentionâ by Jia Tolentino
âCan Motherhood Be a Mode of Rebellion?â by Jia Tolentino
How to Do Nothing by Jenny Odell
Book Recommendations:
Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry
In Ascension by Martin MacInnes
When We Cease to Understand the World by Benjamin Labatut
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Annie Galvin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Mixing by Isaac Jones, with Efim Shapiro and Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Jeff Geld, Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Sonia Herrero.
Soon, youâll need a subscription to maintain access to this show's back catalogue, and the back catalogues of other New York Times podcasts, on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Donât miss out on exploring all of our shows, featuring everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts.
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Iâm convinced that attention is the most important human faculty. Your life, after all, is just the sum total of the things youâve paid attention to. We lament our attention issues all the time â how distracted we are, how drained we feel, how hard it is to stay focused or present. And yet, while thereâs no shortage of advice on how to improve our sleep hygiene or spending habits or physical fitness, thereâs hardly any good information about how to build and replenish our capacity for paying attention.
Gloria Mark is a professor at the University of California, Irvine, and the author of the book âAttention Span.â And sheâs one of the few people who have deeply studied the way our attention works, how thatâs been changing and what we can do to stop frittering away our attention budgets.
This was our first release of 2024, a kind of New Yearâs resolutions episode. And since it can sometimes help to be reminded of the intentions with which you began your year â especially in the midst of a high-intensity election season â we thought weâd share it again.
Book recommendations:
âThe Challenger Launch Decisionâ by Diane Vaughan
âThe Undoing Projectâ by Michael Lewis
âThe God Equationâ by Michio Kaku
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Claire Gordon. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Rollin Hu and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
Soon, youâll need a subscription to maintain access to this show's back catalogue, and the back catalogues of other New York Times podcasts, on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Donât miss out on exploring all of our shows, featuring everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts.
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We recently did an episode on the strange new gender politics that have emerged in the 2024 election. But we only briefly touched on the social and economic changes that underlie this new politics â the very real ways boys and men have been falling behind.
In March 2023, though, we dedicated a whole episode to that subject. Our guest was Richard Reeves, the author of the 2022 book âOf Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What to Do About It,â who recently founded the American Institute for Boys and Men to develop solutions for the gender gap he describes in his research. He argues that you canât understand inequality in America today without understanding the specific challenges facing men and boys. And I would add that thereâs no way to fully understand the politics of this election without understanding that, either. So weâre rerunning this episode, because Reevesâs insights on this feel more relevant than ever.
We discuss how the current education system places boys at a disadvantage, why boys raised in poverty are less likely than girls to escape it, why so many young men look to figures like Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate for inspiration, what a better social script for masculinity might look like and more.
Mentioned:
"Gender Achievement Gaps in U.S. School Districts" by Sean F. Reardon, Erin M. Fahle, Demetra Kalogrides, Anne Podolsky and Rosalia C. Zarate
"Redshirt the Boys" by Richard Reeves
Book recommendations:
"The Tenuous Attachments of Working-Class Men" by Kathryn Edin, Timothy Nelson, Andrew Cherlin and Robert Francis
Career and Family by Claudia Goldin
The Life of Dad by Anna Machin
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast, and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Emefa Agawu, Annie Galvin, Jeff Geld, RogĂ© Karma and Kristin Lin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Mixing by Sonia Herrero. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Carol Sabouraud and Kristina Samulewski.
Soon, youâll need a subscription to maintain access to this show's back catalogue, and the back catalogues of other New York Times podcasts, on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Donât miss out on exploring all of our shows, featuring everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts.
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On Thursday night, Kamala Harris reintroduced herself to America. And by the standards of Democratic convention speeches, this one was pretty unusual. In this conversation Iâm joined by my editor, Aaron Retica, to discuss what Harrisâs speech reveals about the candidate, the campaign sheâs going to run and how she believes she can win in November.
Mentioned:
The Truths We Hold by Kamala Harris
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Claire Gordon. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Jack McCordick. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
Soon, youâll need a subscription to maintain access to this show's back catalogue, and the back catalogues of other New York Times podcasts, on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Donât miss out on exploring all of our shows, featuring everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts.
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Democrats spent the third night of their convention pitching themselves as the party of freedom. In this conversation, my producer Annie Galvin joined me on the show to take a deep look at that messaging. Why do Democrats see an opportunity in this election to seize an idea that Republicans have monopolized for decades? Whatâs the meaning of âfreedomâ that Democrats seem to be embracing? And how does this message square with other Democratic Party values, like belief in the ability of government to do good?
Mentioned:
How Democracies Die by Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced and hosted by Annie Galvin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
Soon, youâll need a subscription to maintain access to this show's back catalogue, and the back catalogues of other New York Times podcasts, on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Donât miss out on exploring all of our shows, featuring everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts.
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Is Obamaism making a comeback? Tuesday night at the Democratic National Convention, Michelle and Barack Obama electrified the crowd with the most powerful speeches of the week so far, and seemed to anoint Kamala Harris as the inheritor of their political movement. For this audio diary, Iâm joined by my producer Elias Isquith to dissect those two speeches. We discuss what Obamaism was in 2008 and 2012, and what it means to pass the baton to Harris in 2024.
Mentioned:
âBiden Made Trump Bigger. Harris Makes Him Smaller.â by Ezra Klein
âThat Feeling You Recognize? Obamacore.â by Nate Jones
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced and hosted by Elias Isquith. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Annie Galvin, Rollin Hu, Kristin Lin and Aman Sahota. Original music by Aman Sahota and Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
Soon, youâll need a subscription to maintain access to this show's back catalogue, and the back catalogues of other New York Times podcasts, on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Donât miss out on exploring all of our shows, featuring everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts.
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Iâm reporting from the Democratic National Convention this week, so weâre going to try something a little different on the show â a daily audio report of what Iâm seeing and hearing here in Chicago. For our first installment, Iâm joined by my producer, Rollin Hu, to discuss what the conventionâs opening night revealed about the Democratic Party after a tumultuous couple of months. We talk about how Joe Biden transformed the party over the past four years, the behind-the-scenes efforts to shape the party under Kamala Harris, the impact of the Gaza protests and why many Democrats â despite Harrisâs recent momentum â feel cautious about their odds in November.
Mentioned:
âTrump Turned the Democratic Party Into a Pitiless Machineâ by Ezra Klein
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezâs Full Speech at Democratic National Convention
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced and hosted by Rollin Hu. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Annie Galvin, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
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A strange new gender politics is roiling the 2024 election. At the Republican National Convention, Donald Trump made his nomination a show of campy masculinity, with Hulk Hogan, Kid Rock and Dana White, the president of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, warming up the crowd. JD Vanceâs first viral moments have been comments he made in 2021 about âchildless cat ladiesâ running the Democratic Party and a âthought experimentâ assigning extra votes to parents because they have more of an âinvestment in the future of this country.â Meanwhile, Kamala Harris is centering her campaign on abortion rights, and Tim Walz has been playing up his own classically masculine profile â as a former football coach, hunter and Midwestern dad. What are the two sides here really saying about gender and family? And what are the new fault lines of our modern-day gender wars?
Christine Emba is a staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of âRethinking Sex: A Provocation.â Zack Beauchamp is a senior correspondent at Vox and the author of the new book âThe Reactionary Spirit: How America's Most Insidious Political Tradition Swept the World.â In this conversation, we discuss some influences on JD Vanceâs ideas about gender and family, the tensions between those ideas and the beliefs about gender represented by Donald Trump, the competing visions of masculinity presented by the two parties in this election, how Dobbs changed Democratsâ message on gender and family, and more.
Mentioned:
âWhat Does the 'Post-Liberal Right' Actually Want?â with Patrick Deneen on The Ezra Klein Show
âA Powerful Theory of Why the Far Right Is Thriving Across the Globeâ with Pippa Norris on The Ezra Klein Show
Book Recommendations:
Black Pill by Elle Reeve
What Are Children For? by Anastasia Berg and Rachel Wiseman
The Lord of the Rings trilogy by J.R.R. Tolkien
Justice, Gender, and the Family by Susan Moller Okin
Cultural Backlash by Pippa Norris, Ronald Inglehart
Conservative Parties and the Birth of Democracy by Daniel Ziblatt
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Annie Galvin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Isaac Jones and Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Sonia Herrero.
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Risk has been on my mind this year. For Democrats, the question of whether Joe Biden should drop out was really a question about risk â the risk of keeping him on the ticket versus the risk of the unknown. And itâs hard to think through those kinds of questions when you have incomplete information and so much you canât predict. After all, few election models forecast that Kamala Harris would have the kind of momentum weâve seen the last few weeks.
Nate Silverâs new book, âOn the Edge: The Art of Risking Everything,â is all about thinking through risk, and the people who do it professionally, from gamblers to venture capitalists. (Silver is a poker player himself.) And so I wanted to talk to him about how that kind of thinking could help in our politics â and its limits.
We discuss how Harris is performing in Silverâs election model; what he means when he talks about âthe villageâ and âthe riverâ; what Silver observed profiling Peter Thiel and Sam Bankman-Fried, two notorious risk-takers, for the book; the trade-offs of Harrisâs decision to choose Tim Walz over Josh Shapiro as a running mate; and more.
This episode contains strong language.
Mentioned:
The Contrarian by Max Chafkin
âNancy Pelosi on Joe Biden, Tim Walz and Donald Trumpâ by The Ezra Klein Show
Book Recommendations:
The Hour Between Dog and Wolf by John Coates
The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes
Addiction by Design by Natasha Dow SchĂŒll
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Rollin Hu. Fact-checking by Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Efim Shapiro and Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Annie Galvin, Michelle Harris, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Sonia Herrero.
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Itâs been remarkable watching the Democratic Party act like a political party this past month â a party that makes decisions collectively, that does hard things because it wants to win, that is more than the vehicle for a single personâs ambitions.
But parties are made of people. And in the weeks leading up to President Bidenâs decision to drop out of the race, it felt like the Democratic Party was made of one particular person: Nancy Pelosi. Two days after Biden released a forceful letter to congressional Democrats insisting he was staying in the race, the former speaker went on âMorning Joeâ and cracked that door back open. And Pelosi has pulled maneuvers like this over and over again in her political career. When an opportunity seems almost lost, she simply asserts that it isnât and then somehow makes that true. Sometimes it seems like Pelosi is one of the last people left in American politics who knows how to wield power.
Pelosi has a new book, âThe Art of Power: My Story as Americaâs First Woman Speaker of the House,â and I wanted to talk to her about her role in Bidenâs decision to drop out and what sheâs learned about power in her decades in Congress.
Book Recommendations:
The Island of the Day Before by Umberto Eco
Love in the Time of Cholera by Gabriel GarcĂa MĂĄrquez
The Age of Wonder by Richard Holmes
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by Elias Isquith. Fact-checking by Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The showâs production team also includes Annie Galvin, Michelle Harris, Rollin Hu and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Jonah Kessel, Emily Holzknecht, Kristen Cruzata and Sonia Herrero.
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In picking Tim Walz as her running mate, Kamala Harris is after more than just Pennsylvania.
Mentioned:
âIs Tim Walz the Midwestern Dad Democrats Need?â by The Ezra Klein Show
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected].
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.
This episode of âThe Ezra Klein Showâ was produced by our senior editor, Claire Gordon. Fact-checking by Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. The showâs production team also includes Annie Galvin, Michelle Harris, Rollin Hu, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Sonia Herrero.
Soon, youâll need a subscription to maintain access to this show's back catalogue, and the back catalogues of other New York Times podcasts, on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Donât miss out on exploring all of our shows, featuring everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts.
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