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Do you ever feel like you're trying to keep it cool, but youâre secretly raging under the surface?
If you're a Type 9, or close to one, youâve likely wrestled with feeling overlooked, overextended, and underboundaried. This rich panel conversation dives into the lived experience of core Type 9s, shedding light on how the desire for peace often masks struggles with anger, identity, and merging with others.
Learn how the different wings (9w1 vs. 9w8) shape how Nines handle conflict, personal space, and boundaries.
Hear real Enneagram 9s describe how âmergingâ actually feels in the body, and why itâs not just a metaphor.
Discover the surprising assertiveness that emerges when a Nine feels truly safe and situated.
Tune in now to hear this heartfelt, funny conversation that will transform how you understand and embody the Nine experience.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram
https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
01:03 - Introduction of our 9 panel, type 9 description, topics of merging; boundaries, the body center
19:42 - Managing our sensory availability, handling 'violations', individuating while not dissolving, anger revealing needs/attention and performance
54:03 - âPremature buddha', 9s coming in to their power
01:04:42 - Type 9 in leadership, comfort vs 'finding the grooves' to fit in, being a part of the environment vs feeling energetic force fields
01:19:13 - Distinctions between 9w1 and 9w8, how a wing supports attachment, different forms of 'peacekeeping', frustration or rejection
01:46:30 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Omar Sullivan (SO/SP 6w7 693) is an absolutely hilarious and insightful person, sharing how being a Type 6 and growing up with a loyalty to âdoing the right thingâ collided with an internal drive to poke holes in systems, ideologies, and even his own beliefs. We trace how a Type 6 mind pings between self-doubt and defiant clarity, often using humor as both camouflage and truth-tellerâa sort of âjesterâs privilegeâ that lets him say what others wonât. We talk about the contradictions within punk culture, the irony of the sustainability industry, and the emotional truths that surface when a 6 splits inward instead of seeking answers outside. We also touch on the mental gymnastics of manufacturing certainty, ego fixation in relationships, and how being âthe man behind the memesâ reveals the necessity of division before integration.This is a loaded conversation exploring the energy of 6, the comedy of self-awareness, and how creative life often begins at the fracture point.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram
https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
02:52 - Improv in college and creating a lasting impact, anti-elitism and 6 leadership, super-ego and doing the 'right thing'
14:39 - Making self laugh, ping-ponging, the humor of 6w7, "the jester's privilege", irony and playing offense to play defense, 3w2 vs 3w4 exploration
28:15 - Pointing out the contradictions and irony of the punk scene, so/sp call-outs within the culture, questioning authenticity
37:34 - Holding contradictions within self, community orientation of 6, finding resonances within 'scenes', frustration turns to the eternal seeker, taking things to the extreme to understand it
45:02 - Creative tension: the duality of 6s, inner split exposing emotional truths in creativity, getting into Omar's novel and the so/sp 6 arch
58:07 - Humor as a survival mechanism, intellectual and detached comparative to 'fighter', relationship to confidence and the 'dark truth'
01:06:01 - Manufacturing a sense of certainty through the mental center, better understanding reality, feeling social stability versus rejection
01:16:08 - Not pinning self to external explanation: bermuda's tuning inward, so/sp not contextualizing actions in the collective sense, being affected causing alienation
01:21:57 - Reinventing self, 'letting loose', being creatively fueled through adventures, the mental imagery of crawling back to life
01:31:19 - Navigating relationships and ego fixations, "the truth won't save you", 6 being the hell side of attachment type; roasting 6s
01:42:34 - 6's splitting showing ugly necessity of division prior to integration, âthe man behind the memesâ
01:47:57 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Celia Murnock (SP/SO 6w5 613) is a Type 6 whose intellectual clarity and emotional precision root our conversation in complexity: her passion for biomedical anthropology becomes a metaphor for her lifeâs work â finding and teasing out gray areas in a world that demands black-and-white answers. We trace the architecture of Six through her eyes: the struggle to trust her own mind, the looping vigilance against being naĂŻve, and the quiet grief of feeling like the adult in the room since childhood. The conversation moves fluidly between micro and macro, from early recognitions of injustice to the moral orientation that propels her forward â often at great personal cost. We explore the distinctions between 6w5 and 6w7: the cagey inner withdrawal, the instinct to "snip the threads" before attachment hurts too much, and the quiet resistance to being shaped by othersâ expectations.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram
https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
02:42 - Interests and pathways in education and career. Biomedical anthropology: finding and teasing out the gray areas, solving intricate/systemic problems
12:28 - Not trusting the human mind; the finite and subjective experience, 6s horrified awareness, understanding and orienting to reality and certainty
21:27 - 6w5 versus 6w7, 5 wanting to 'snip the threads', sensitivities to attachment 'mismatches'
26:05 - Childhood recognitions of morality, 6s realism and 'calling out the thing', an inherent obligation to not be short-sighted by clarity and subjectivity, self-justification to 'making a stink'
39:09 - Structural rigidity, macro vs micro and personal philosophies of life, stepping away from the microscope, injustices of the world
47:33 - "Too many arteries bleeding"; super-ego of 6, being a porcupine or a bottle of soda that's been shaken, inner pressure, wearing a seatbelt in life
56:51 - Struggling to find serenity, current life situation and tracking decisions through type structure, identity wrapped up into being the certainty
01:11:35 - Making things more good instead of less bad, 'soul purpose'; depth over breadth
01:22:20 - 6w5 cagey nature, "I'm not trying to not touch you, I'm trying to keep you from touching me", private internal withdrawal, not signing the contract, expectations vs responses
01:30:48 - Making a mess, cleaning up after ourselves, 6-1 stem reflections, resignation with attachments
01:37:10 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Elisa (SP/SX 3w2 378) joins us for a rich and layered conversation that weaves together identity, performance, and the relentless pursuit of autonomy. A pole and circus studio founder with a deep instinct for self-reinvention, Elisa moves through life like a well-rehearsed act â equal parts precision and provocation. We talk about what it means to build a life around something still stigmatized by the mainstream, the tension between personal truth and social acceptability, and how visibility can be both a risk and a reclamation. Throughout, Elisa reflects on the roots of her drive â a childhood that demanded self-reliance, an early mistrust of authority, and a bone-deep resistance to being boxed in. We explore the challenges of delegation when control has always been survival, and the vulnerability required to teach, lead, and create in front of others. Thereâs a powerful thread here about embodiment as empowerment: how performance can become a site of healing, defiance, and radical honesty.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram
https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
03:30 - Social blind 3 running a circus & pole studio, 'expansion' definition as triple assertive, 3's pride of business
09:19 - Perception as a social blind 3, trust and autonomy in business, being an 'idea machine'
16:34 - Sp/sx importance of atmosphere, eroticism within career
26:19 - Approval of parents as a type 3, being consumed with a fire to fulfill 'who I am', struggling during COVID and taking things personally
35:59 - Core 3 'keeps a lid' on energetic 7 and 8 fixes, 3 believing "I can do anything", learning the 'social game' in business
42:31 - Being curious in the social instinct, tracking others' gaze/values, 3w2 anticipating others' needs but not clocking social nuances
50:29 - Instructor experience, impersonal impact on others, relating to control in relationships
61:15 - Separation/boundaries in professional relationships, seeking or deflecting validation, vulnerability in the sexual instinct and performance
01:13:18 - Being a competence type, honing your craft, having an interest vs running a business, obsession with self-improvement
01:24:26 - Childhood reflections; energetic and unfiltered, not participating in early school institutions
01:34:59 - Self-worth vs social accolades, the role of teachers, seeking essential value through productivity
01:43:07 - Not identifying with victimhood, difficulties accepting help/delegation, being an emotional support child, hyper-independence
01:52:54 - Putting whole self into work, delivering excellence, 3w2 empathy can override necessary negative interactions
02:00:05 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Alex (SO/SP 6w7 693) joins us for a deep dive into the often-misunderstood inner terrain of the Social Six â where loyalty is a vigilant scan for danger, and the mindâs ceaseless activity is less about worry than about building a livable world. From the outset, Alex speaks to the dissonance of being typed as a Six, resisting the caricatures and one-dimensional projections that cling to the type.
We explore the deep patterns of fear and mental over-responsibility that began in childhood: a sense of being a small, visible target in a world ruled by unseen authority. Alex opens up about health anxiety, asexuality, and the complexity of labels â both how they can offer coherence and how they can confine.
Alex also brings in the character of Zuko from our shared favorite show Avatar: The Last Airbender as a mirror of his own journey â from rigid loyalty to false authority, through crisis, to a reclamation of inner truth. Together, we explore how Six navigates the labyrinth of mental gates that must be opened before love can be received, and how trust â in the self, in others, in life â is painstakingly built, tested, and sometimes, finally, allowed.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram
https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
02:31 - Participating in Enneagram communities, creating memes while waiting for typing results, reacting to being type 6, unpacking the projections onto 6, "finding a mental home"
12:27 - Being a 'cog in the machine', erasing individualization, a "thought-terminating cliche", having mental tweezers
17:10 - Childhood memories, fearing authority larger than parents, fear/anxiety of being a "sitting duck" to external powers
23:36 - "Going haywire", the vetting mechanism of 6, fearing and joking about death
29:01 - Ketamine treatment, expanding perspectives assisting with anxiety, limited "mental real estate", social narratives and afterthoughts, an unreliable narrator
38:09 - 6s not taking responsibility for personal perspectives, pinging off of others, judgment off of 'needing others', self-honoring and life-giving, self-sufficiency narratives
46:03 - 6s archetypal connection to labels, being asexual, attention to collective ideals/gaze
52:30 - self-deprecation being limiting, therapy, social rejection, deconstructing 'what I deserve to have/want", identifying the super-ego
59:11 - not making progress, fear of social vulnerability, 6's inner splitting, exploring the underdog position
01:06:59 - Avatar the Last Airbender; relating to the Zuko character arch, shedding the false authorities, enacting personal will, changing inherited reality perspectives
01:16:22 - 'vetting' self-love, matrix of mental gates, a core need to have 'right'...
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Aurel (SO/SP 6w7 693) experienced a major stroke in early adulthoodâan event that unraveled his sense of self and fractured his memory. What happens when your personal history goes missing? In this conversation, Aurel reflects on the slow, painful reconstruction of identity and how trauma rewrites not just the past, but the present narrative. We talk about radical empathy, activism, and the emotional labor of confronting systemic injustice while piecing together who you are. This is a deep dive into Type 6 themesâhumility, doubt, the search for expertise, and the existential anxiety that rides alongside all of it. Aurel also shares how role-playing games became a surprising avenue for self-exploration, offering both escape and insight. Gender, memory, social responsibility, and the long arc of healingâitâs all here, held together by a steady curiosity about what it means to tell the truth, especially when the truth feels scattered.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram
https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
05:45 - Grounding to a sense of reliable orientation as a core mental type carrying significant memory loss
09:37 - Mosaic of identity: pieces of Aurel's life, "firming up" to actually get better attachments
14:56 - Being 'proactively solid', having a passionate moral compass, feeling guilt backlash
19:36 Anti-fascism, practicing good discernment, community care-taking
21:01 "Can we put a time stamp on this so people who aren't white don't have to hear about how I learned to care about racism if they don't want to?"
23:44 - Social core 6 'sounding the alarm' to this reality, searching for and spreading truth through the 'best information'
31:55 - A fascination with information, 6 wing 7 'play mode', anti-arrogance of 6, "I don't want to be responsible for your orientation"
35:17 - Navigating influence and value, proselytizing mode, anti-elitism and self-erasure of the 6-9 stem
46:17 - Role-playing games as an artistic form to navigate different aspects of self and identity
53:07 - Intersection of memory loss and identity, "none of us hold all of ourselves", not being certain of self-perceptions
01:02:14 - Gender Identity, re-inventing yourself, the complexities of social labels, 6s ability to see the categories held by the collective mind
01:11:44 - Gender expression through the sexual instinct, sexual blind 6 afraid of 'being caught', sexual versus social attunement, finding 'flavor' through the arts but having 3 last
01:26:43 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Mar (SP/SX 7w6 794) joins us for a luminous, chaotic dive into the inner world of an SP Seven â where optimism burns like a flare, vision outpaces feasibility, and connection is often a puzzle missing key pieces. Mar touches on her social blindness â the kind that makes small talk feel like calculus and leads to well-meaning intensity that others don't always know how to receive. We explore her writing, which orbits themes of fate, finality, and surrealism â what she calls âpocket knife storiesâ for their compact emotional heft. This conversation also opens space for harder truths: her relationship with alcohol as both amplifier and isolator, the tension between reckless vitality and the longing for groundedness, and the ongoing work of integrating a self built on speed with one that can sit still. At the heart of it all is a question familiar to many Sevens: What does it mean to choose presence, when flight feels like freedom?
Link to Mar's writing; https://www.marovsheid.com/
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
03:28 - Understanding enneagram typing before knowing the enneagram, something the personality is doing that isn't 'baseline', being different from the average mold
07:56 - Navigating social interactions as a social blind, blindspot not holding nuance
14:47 - Social dismissal, writing as self-value, 4 fix misattunement
22:36 - Type 7 instant gratification seeking, getting what you want from a young age, objects of desire, the dachshund story
32:42 - Making luck: balancing action/faith, assertiveness without pragmatism
40:19 - Vision of a solar-powered future, self-preservation 7 lacking stick-to-itiveness
48:12 - Fragility of dreams/weight of the past, looking to be optimally nourished, difficulty reflecting
59:37 - Mar's relationship to writing, type 7 always looking to the next thing, 4w5 constantly reworking self
01:04:28 - Finality and tragedy in art, fragility of existence
01:17:51 - Nature of writing and self-expression, 'giving the symbols legs', the inner tension between 2 poles
01:26:58 - Staying power of writing while being a 7
01:37:32 - Navigating alcohol as a tool, sp/sx not feeling answerable to social, curling into self
01:54:12 - Outro
CREDITS Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Cassandra Carol (SP/SO 9w8 972) joins us for a raw and resonant conversation about what it means to carry deep emotional weight while moving gently through the world. Cass, a high-energy and incredibly polite Nine, opens up about surviving childhood abuse, navigating a turbulent past marriage, and understanding the complex aspects of her unique Enneagram type with precision. We explore the paradox of a Nine who feels âtoo muchâ in a world that asks her to be less â the push-pull of wanting to merge without disappearing, of protecting others without burning out. Cassâs Enneagram journey (including strong 7 and 2 fixes) becomes a map for understanding her deep instincts to nurture, accommodate, and endure â even at great personal cost. Cassâs episode is an expression of what it means to hold both ferocity and fragility â and to choose growth anyway.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
03:17 - Looking at the typing as a whole - 9w8 7w8 2w3 - how the fixes âgive energyâ to the 9 core. Interpersonal positioning, reacting to and processing early trauma, not presenting the âreal meâ.
11:35 - Being triple positive, each type doesnât want sadness. Rejection in type cuts off irritants.
16:56 - Divorce, talking about trauma with a fun âpoppyâ energy, nature versus nurture and resiliency levels in type. (intro clip around 15:00)
22:19 - Body center âtestingâ its own strength after past trauma, reflecting on 8âs influence on self-judgement, fluctuating between personal emotional control and porousness.
37:16 - Boondock Saints, religion, and past relationships
46:12 - 6 versus 9w8 relationship history and dynamic, 7s aversion to controlling others, speaking truth
55:11 - âputting onâ the bad bitch energy, taking on motherhood having mama bear energy, 9âs endurance
59:10 - understanding 2 energy, 2 fix glorified in christian culture, 9w8 sensitivity to being âtoo muchâ
1:17:12 - positive fantasy, parenting with rejection influences, contradicting parts of type creating inner narratives
1:26:50 - dazzling therapists without getting to the heart, self-soothing obsessions, coming to a close
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/ Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Ruth (SX/SO 9w1 973) joins us for a luminous and radical exploration of the Sexual 9's longing for union â with God, with others, and, ultimately, with herself. From an early age, Ruthâs life was shaped by profound mystical experiences: claiming Jesus at three, and at nine, encountering a vision of him entering her body â not metaphorically, but viscerally, as a wave of physical love. These moments left an imprint, becoming the compass by which she navigated the world â always reaching for a love that could hold her entire being. We explore how this early spiritual intensity tethered her to external sources of nourishment â church, relationships, ideals â while a deeper hunger for selfhood remained dormant, waiting to be reclaimed. Her story takes a sharp turn in her late 30s, when a ârude awakeningâ forced her to prioritize self-care and embodiment. What unfolds is a quiet revolution: the shift from merging to individuation, from numbing to sensation, from floating in spirit to landing in body.
Google Doc containing all of Ruthâs poems, art, and links; https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_HCMlPkNOTMyt87PAmhI36jPTIIR71PaTxFw6oYDa5A/edit?usp=sharing
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
03:20 - Unburdening the self from a narrative arch
13:07 - Self-preservation blind externalizing the body through the church
30:57 - Abandoning will and choice in areas of life
34:59 - Sexual dominant; ecstatic states causing self-abandonment
45:55 - âGo find your mountainâ; stepping into the world with confidence
50:44 - Questioning faith, âthe fallâ to Earth and becoming a person
1:00:50 - Building a tolerance to regulating stress
1:11:44 - Connecting with the mundane self-preservation independently
1:21:28 - Understanding the natural rhythms and life force of the body
1:39:16 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Anna Palumbo (SO/SP 9w8 937) returns for a second conversationâthis time reflecting on the shifts she's experienced since our last recording. We begin with a live performance of her original song Wings for the Heart, a piece that emerged in the wake of personal rupture and now stands as both witness and balm. What follows is a layered exploration of emotional fragmentation, the disorienting effects of internal and external turbulence, and the slow, deliberate work of reweaving oneself from the inside out. Anna speaks candidly about a transformative road trip with her family that cracked something openâmaking space for parts of herself sheâd long kept at bay. We discuss the cost of emotional suppression, the subtle tensions in relational dynamics, and the grounded power that comes from living with greater authenticity. What emerges is the portrait of a Nine learning to inhabit her full aliveness, not by transcending conflict but by letting all the pieces have a seat at the table.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
7:31 - Following the bird song, the healing power of music, Performance of 'Wings for the Heart'
16:20 - Embracing vulnerability in art, heart receiving, a 9 in her element
20:36 - 9s line to 3, saturating a space with energy, showing up as 'I Am'
23:10 - Reflections since the previous interview, coping between internal and external world, "competency cringe"
28:03 - Noticing 'numbness' in presence, self-location versus fragmented states, 'needing time to arrive'
36:03 - Incongruences with life force, realignment with self by taking on a solid form, family road trip
47:43 - Not having a backlog of emotions or rage, 'bigness' of 9, transforming the need to manage oneself
52:34 - Embracing conflict and personal sovereignty, living in the space between myself and others
55:28 - Journaling/posting during travel leads to finding inner voice and framing of experience, feeling at home in my world
61:15 - Parenting with presence and clarity, "I'm more than just 'mom'", allowing struggles to exist in a child's life
01:08:30 - Integration of different threads of self, congruence within relationships
01:11:43 - Surrendering to self-authenticity, attachment dynamics shifting, a new energetic body
01:23:04 - Outro
CREDITS Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Bjarne is an SO/SP 8w9 with 3w2 and 6w7 fixes, though in this episode, he questions whether he might be a core Six. What emerges regardless is a portrait of a powerful, self-directed psyche shaped by an early awareness of exploitation, corruption, the failure of collective systems to protect the dignity of life. From political dreams as a child to his drive to awaken others to their own strength, Bjarne speaks about what it means to live with a sense of self-respect and moral propulsion. We talk about betrayal and its lasting scar: how one relational rupture cost him his emotional faith in others, replacing it with vigilance and paranoia. We also explore the engine behind his ambition, his disdain for comfort zones, and the sadness he feels watching others give up on their dreams. Despite his tough exterior, what drives him is a longing to ignite others into action and distribute his own fire so that others might reclaim their agency. This is a conversation about will, self-respect, the cost of vigilance, and the restless drive to feel truly alive.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram
https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
02:33 - What it means to âbe excitedâ, decided which emotions are experienced
10:19 - Cut off from vulnerability causes inauthentic connection with others; the significance of self-betrayal
12:57 - Bjarneâs core 6 theory; ruling with anxiety. Clarifying âbeing taken advantage ofâ
15:23 - Corruption, weakness, and politics
16:52 - An instinctual repulsion over disrespect of life
25:31 - Social 8 helping others see their power, recognizing individual impact can be a way of carrying on legacy
29:12 - Personal peeve on people asking for reassurance
32:44 - Taking risks, not being a slave to the system
40:27 - Self-actualization and potential; 836 trifix outlook of âthis is what you have, this is what you work withâ
42:03 - Emotional impacts and processing of being betrayed
53:15 - The personal importance and societal use of âdiplomacyâ
59:08 - 8âs boundlessness of motivation and reserves of energy
1:07:12 - âVivifyingâ the collective, channeling energy into othersâ potential
1:17:25 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
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Moses Williams (SO/SP 5w6 513) returns for a third and unexpected installment. After the emotional closing of our last conversation, the relationship he spoke about fell apart, and Moses recorded this solo reflection as a final statement. Itâs part post-mortem, part self-reckoning, and it is beautifully 5: heady, searching, at times heartbreakingly tender. He names where things broke down, what it showed him about his patterns, and how heâs choosing to move forward. What begins as a Fiveâs attempt to diagnose and understand becomes something more vulnerable: a young person figuring out how to keep their heart open after loss.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram https://youtube.com/@houseofenneagramâ©
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Moses Williams (SO/SP 5w6 513) is back for round two, and we dive straight into what he calls âthe mortifying stuff.â We explore the dissonance of being autistic and socially wired â craving connection but feeling like a fish trying to fly. Moses speaks candidly about navigating sexual arousal alongside the fear of being seen as creepy or delusional, and what itâs like to experience intense desire as someone whoâs sexual blind. He names his instinct to hide, control, and strategize, and what happens when that scaffolding starts to crack. We talk about being a triple competency type (513), the impulse to do everything alone, and the sharp suspicion that other people just get in the way. But then something unexpected happens: Moses softens. What starts as a conversation about childhood patterns and self-analysis ends in a rare emotional opening, as Moses entertains the dangerous hope that someone might actually want to stay.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
11:33 - Differentiating type 5 and autism
22:09 - Social needs and a fascination with psychology
24:44 - Moses shares personal stories relating to early forms of type structure
32:33 - Giving sexual preferences space as opposed to suppressing
42:00 - Taking responsibility for the self
47:03 - Type 5 expanding on the obsession with animals
54:54 - Social hexad displaying âshockingâ parts up front
59:20 - Triple competencyâs reliance on self and mistrust in others
1:07:49 - The spirit of collaboration as a competency type
1:15:03 - Releasing hope hiding underneath strategy
1:31:24 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Moses Williams is an 18-year-old Social/Self-Pres 5w6 who is also on the autism spectrum. Moses describes growing up feeling that adults were hiding the truth, that essential information was missing, and that everyone else somehow knew how to be human in a way he didnât. We talk about his often obsessive fascination with taboo topicsâpornography, sexual deviance, violenceânot to provoke, but to answer the horrifying question: âAm I stupid for not knowing this already?â He recounts a personal collapse that left him with three options: become a sanitized version of himself, disappear entirely, or dismantle and reform collective assumptions entirely. This conversation also explores intellectual separatism, the pressure to adapt to norms that feel senseless, and the slow, reluctant emergence of a heart that wants something real. This episode contains references to pornography, sexual deviance, and suicide. Listener discretion advised.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/ âš@houseofenneagramâ©
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
02:56 - Introduction to enneagram, being a loner, interested in psychology to understand people
06:20 - Animals animals animals and being intrigued by fear
09:37 - Family background, being introduced to the internet, questioning traditional beliefs
13:17 - Stigmas around sex and sexuality, parsing through frameworks of deviancy
15:52 - Reading provocative books, fascination through frustration and not being naive, needing obsessions
22:56 - âWorst moment of lifeâ, social incompetence
28:08 - Difficulty adapting, doing it âmy wayâ and making it work, âthe way I do teamwork is by not working with peopleâ
31:54 - Trying to figure out place in the world, âbecoming sanitizedâ, stripping out peopleâs assumptions
35:35 - Power dynamics, finding compatibility
42:09 - Conceptualizing an ideal world, determinism, looking for something real
45:47 - Social relationships allow âgetting to the heartâ, loneliness and regret
50:23 - Being more competent at relationships, fear of feelings influencing self-image
58:51 - Realizing when type 5 isnât actually talking about themselves, speaking about people in an... -
Julie (SP/SO 1w2 126) says being an Enneagram One is like trying to control the lightning bolt youâre riding. We talk about how her pursuit of competence â in painting, music, and even dog training â brought early success but gradually drained the joy from each pursuit. She shares what itâs like to live in a body wired for precision and pressure, and how that rigidity eventually led to serious health issues after she threw herself into an activist cause. We explore how she navigates moral complexity not through rules, but through a somatic âyes,â and how her 2-fix allows her to âsee peopleâs souls.â Throughout the conversation, she highlights something rarely said about Ones: their sharp, absurd sense of humor that helps her stay connected to lightness and levity.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
03:04 - Julieâs journey as an artist
17:51 - Creativity and excellence as a Type 1
22:43 - 1âs rigidity in music
28:52 - Being a frustration type in the body center
31:44 - 1w2 ârightness of actionâ
34:18 - Type 2/2fix âtracking emotional data pointsâ
44:08 - Casting judgment or seeing soul?
49:27 - Julieâs relationship to criticality
57:26 - Advocacy at the expense of personal health
1:00:47 - âPrimordial Perfectionâ
1:04:43 - Detecting anxiety as a body type
1:08:23 - The humor and absurdism of 1
1:17:25 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Kim (SO/SP 8w7 863) joins us for an intimate and unguarded exploration of the inner world of Eight â where sovereignty is survival, connection is a gamble, and straight talk is an act of love. From the first moments, Kimâs presence is unmistakable: a force of nature, all-in from the outset, inviting others to meet her at full throttle. We explore the emotional paradox at the heart of the Social Eight â the innocent hope that others will meet her with the same raw honesty she offers, the crushing self-blame that follows when that trust proves misplaced, and the instinct to amputate not just relationships but parts of her own soul in self-protection. We delve into the Eightâs preemptive numbing, the hardened stance of being the gatekeeper of her world, and the quiet grief of being valued only for what she gives â not for who she is. Kimâs story is a vivid portrait of Eightâs vulnerability beneath the armor, and of the slow, courageous return to wholeness.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@UCPiABQQQE4Ret7cwmy-GmRA
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
2:08 - BOOM; here it is, 8w7 energy
6:41 - âIâm not a law of nature, Iâm a force of it"
14:31 - Rejection core; cutting parts off, self-hatred
20:16 - Living as a social hexad type in a world of attachment types
26:41 - 8 and naiveté
34:35 - Social controlling, âIâm the queen of the chess boardâ
45:40 - Black and white mindset, 8s relationship to anger
54:07 - âYou care about what I am, not who I amâ, rejection and usefulness
1:02:08 - Anger vs. indifference and their role in care
1:06:52 - Understanding delusional or realistic boundaries
1:13:16 - Apologetic 8, integrity
1:22:00 - Forgiveness and innocence
1:26:11 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Alice (SO/SP 9w1 973) joins us for a profound and poetic exploration of the inner world of Nine â where the background environment can overshadow the self, and the longing isnât for pleasure, but for the peace of never having been born. We dive into the quiet ache for pre-conscious coziness, the hesitance to disturb reality with oneâs presence, and the existential ambivalence at the heart of Nine structure: Do I really want to exist? Alice reflects on the invisible toll of absorbing the worldâs energies, the disorienting effects of nightlife work, and the shattering aftermath of real connection gone silent. Her story is a journey of individuation and the slow integration of disparate parts of herself â from coming out as trans, to seeing herself mirrored in othersâ self-suppression, and ultimately, to saying yes to life.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
02:24 - Aliceâs current life context
08:17 - Being an extremely sensitive person, social 9 absorbing the environment
17:25 - âSwirling in your own cauldronâ of the 9-7 stem
28:17 - âRuiningâ the tapestry, 9w1 ethics
35:03 - 9s return to the womb; the desire to be unborn
44:03 - Saying âyesâ to experience
46:36 - Childhood
53:27 - Living as a trans woman
1:05:28 - Submitting my whole self to gaze - social instinct, type 3, type 9
1:11:11 - Seeing myself in anotherâs self-suppression
1:33:53 - Opting out of autopilot and serving a new vision for life
1:49:31 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
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Sarahâs Type 6 mind moves fastâso fast it can create instant connection and obscure deeper intimacy. In this episode, she unpacks the whirlwind: the pull between independence and support, the trap of victimhood, and how unchecked reactivity nearly derailed a past relationship. With raw honesty, she explores self-sabotage, emotional spirals, and the slow work of learning self-trust. This is a conversation about growing beyond fear into real, grounded connection.
LINKSSarah's Music https://open.spotify.com/artist/6VAheMN9FSGheExTVAlBXD?si=rbz8XlbPQqaQx3mEr9De0A
The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/
Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course
Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/
Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994
House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
03:08 - Reviewing the âbullet pointsâ
07:39 - Therapy, working on self-needs rather than attachment structure reflecting needs of others
10:07 - Whatâs hard about âtouching groundâ
25:11 - Victim mentality, self-sabotage, and type 6 âunderdogâ
32:43 - Reactive attachment
39:41 - Seeking a dimension of parental qualities in partners
47:20 - 6 dividing from one extreme pole to the other, finding balance in the center
52:28 - 6s entitlement of collective âmarkersâ
1:02:42 - The horror of âitâs all 6, it always has beenâ
1:17:50 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Kalla Mort shares her jaw-dropping story of escaping the high control religion of her youth (read: cult) and coming out as queer. This is an incredibly rich exploration of Attachment in the Mental Center, and how Type 6 navigates revolutions of core beliefs. Enjoy.
LINKS
Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-courseGet Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
2:17 - Growing up in high control religion, 6 attachment in head center
8:30 - Young 6 strategizing, âselling outâ in religion, theater life
10:21 - Sexuality in a purity culture
13:23 - IBLP, Gotthard, being a mouthpiece for collective ideals
24:56 - Awakening to identity
33:15 - Christian âbeacon of loveâ vs. personal visceral truth
46:03 - Dissociation of the attachment types
50:41 - Mental health, conversion therapy
55:10 - 6 âcopy-pasteâ discernment
1:04:21 - Psychosomatic symptoms of body/mind incongruence
1:13:49 - The mental center as a prison for the heart
1:31:45 - Deconstruction
1:38:13 - Weaponizing faith
1:51:02 - Getting âtoo bigâ for old constructs
1:55:12 - Esoteric healing methods
2:02:25 - 6âs mistrust of the mental center
2:18:38 - âMy biggest savior is my biggest sin - subjectivityâ
2:25:56 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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Sara Pryde (SP/SX 6w7 614), trauma-informed massage therapist, joins us from Wyoming. We dive into the existential crisis sparked when her partner didn't finish his weekly banana quotaâforcing her into making muffins against her will. Plus, we unpack how Sara, as SP/SX armed with all three frustration types (1, 4, 7), meticulously crafts her ideal cozy cocoon, yet accidentally projects being more socially "available" than she ever truly feels. Enjoy.
LINKS
Saraâs Website (Massage Therapy, Astrology, Blog)
https://www.sarapryde.com/Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-courseGet Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Intro
03:08 - Nervous interview âbubblingâ, 6-1 stem not managing the stress
09:28 - Social blind âI donât like being a personâ, being perceived, âI have to be mythicâ
17:22 - Massage therapy, curating perfect environment
22:38 - Conflicts in Type Structure, 6 canât cut off from service and security
29:24 - Comfort is not health, coming up for air as sp/sx
33:41 - âSecurityâ as Self-preservation 6
34:55 - âMuffin Madnessâ: social blind frustration
49:32 - Not holding a socially collective reasoning
57:24 - Accidental availability as a 6, despite social blind
1:01:19 - Childhood
1:14:18 - Self-Reliance as Type 6, Anchoring to meaning-making maps
1:19:41 - 6s inner zig-zag, different âpartsâ conflicting thoughts/statements
1:30:48 - Outro
CREDITS
Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/
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